What's your opinion on MGTOW?

What's your opinion on MGTOW?

Bunch of faggot shit

Genius...
At least for me

Bunch of neck bearded mouth breathing faggots.

>What's your opinion on MGTOW?

Sup Forums is a MGTOW board, that's all you need to know. Sup Forums hates women and laughs about marriagefags.

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Nothing they say is wrong and its a good way to keep masculinity afloat.

People obsess over the "end game" which is them staying alone but in reality men getting their shit together is what attracts women in the first place

It makes sense for some guys.

The current culture around dating, relationships and marriage is unfair to men.
There's nothing wrong with recognising that and deciding to avoid it.

It's women's nature to be like they are if they are left to their own devices, especially with social movements that encourage it.
I can see why a lot of guys go MGTOW.

I don't know why they have to make a community about it though.
Just don't pursue women, you don't have to circlejerk over it.

>Just don't pursue women, you don't have to circlejerk over it.

A lot of guys grey up in feminized surroundings and never learned to be men. I see alot of man 101 shit in those communities where people are trying to rebuilt themselves

I think it's a great movement, men should stop going after women and start going after other men instead.

Bunch of kike bullshit.

>Don't breed, Goyim! Let the white race die out!

bitter males

oh look a kike who wants to discourage white breeding

wir haben nicht vergessen

Bunch of bullshit hate, probably inspired by gypsies in "divide and conquer" vein.

MGTOW is Jewish propaganda.

Breed and have many children for the benefit of the Aryan race.

It's vice versa, idiot.

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>Jewish propaganda

Lolwut?

Didn't this come along way after feminism which is basically the same thing just the opposite gender. If women are being "empowered" by fucking around who are the men supposed to breed with? Hypothetically if all women were feminists then MGTOW would be the only alternative, otherwise it would be a case of

>Women do as they want
>Men should be trying their hardest to breed with them and basically be cucks

You already know you fight fire with fire, trying to be the "moral guy" in the situation where feminism runs rampant is just as flawed as thinking tolerance can stop bullets and bombs.

What I like about it is the "I don't give a fuck attitude". Almost every man has his views on how women really are, but most of them won't say it anywhere because the retaliation is "I won't sleep with you, you are forced to tolerate me because you are straight", and most men do.

That's why I like their strategy, which is - ok, let's see whose gonna turn out better off if I don't play your games. And for men who have jobs, nothing is really lost. You can still get a hooker and cleaning up after yourself is not that hard, especially when you can do it on your own schedule and there are no timetables and nagging along the way.

For women on the other hand, that means you have to sell yourself much cheaper to some beta faggot who you wouldn't ever want to touch or share a chad with 3 different freeloaders.

Because at the end of the day women need the human connection 24/7. Men just need it when the are horny, the rest of the time you don't want to be dragged around the city, museums, parks, having picnics and all the other bullshit that you don't see the point in doing or those that don't interest you.


And then those countries start to import immigrant men because all of their men have mysteriously turned into pussies.

But this is the downside of MGTOW ideology. By now women have put themselves (read - got "quota'ed" into) in the position of political power and right now their retaliation is to start instituting systems of penalizing such men. From having them pay higher taxes (there have been such proposals of taxing men with no kids) to destroying the whole countries by spreading the multi-kulti love.

That's the crook of it. If you go with women where they want to lead you ie. female empowerment, quotas, stronk womyn etc the existing society turns into pussy land, which they hate and want to import "real" men.

divide and conquer

Fine if they can avoid siring children.

pretty good imo. but i think every man beating up a woman would be much funnier

>I will never again talk to a woman
>t-that sure shows them!

People that have given up or don't want to take responsibility.

At least more women choices for me. Good thing there are fags and cucks!

If you think about it it's really the only realistic solution.

If every man went MGTOW the whole current system of things would end

and we would return to a patriarchy

>MGTOW
With such ugly name movement will no achive anything. How is this even spells? And when it spells it stumbles on every letter. They need proper name like apple or McDonald’s first.

good post, thx for sharing. excellent digits too

The difference in the amount of men dating women if there was no MGTOW movement. Is zero.

Fantastic idea.

Don't play their game, it's rigged against us.

If they want to shag niggers instead, let them. They'll regret that shit when they're getting the shit kicked out of them by their now ex-boyfriend and trying to raise a kid on single parent socialist gibmedats, which if men start voting as a block will also be reduced, because why the fuck should we pay for their kids?

hey there roastie. Looking forward to getting a beating from Ahmed? Don't look around for any German men to save you.

Why did he wait until their wedding day to do this? Rude

эмгэтoв

>I-I DON'T NEED WOMEN
>I'M AN INDEPENDENT MAN WHO IS NOT DEPENDENT ON SEX
>N-no, I can get girls, I-I just choose not to.

Its just for sexually frustrated betas that are too ugly abd too autistic to get women

There are some MGTOW who are genuine. They might have been divorce raped and learned the hard way or whatever. But I feel like a large portion of MGTOW are virgins.

Third post best post

I would add mentally retarded though

projecting too much

go outside for a change

Marry and divorce is the ultimate divide and conquer, idiot.

Anyone who is for the rotten marriage system and anyone who is against MGTOW is effectively prolonging the feminist system we live in.

Nobody cares, cunt.

Really? MTGOW is "start a family and raise children?"

Or is pumping and dumping, getting girls pregnant and letting them raise their kid alone what you mean.

mtgow is the white version of nigger culture.

Enjoy raising some other cunts kid, cuckfriend.

Enjoy all the traditional downsides of relationships without any of the benefits.

Enjoy paying taxes to fund all those single mothers raising black babies.

not preserving the white race is degenerate.

Why do you not wanna be a nice worker drone and let your wife spend half of your mony on shit nobody needs, goy?

>implying niggers don't leave because they are immune to shaming tactics

Uh oh, mad virgins
But this is Sup Forums after all

No it's not you summertard, we value marriage and family over anything else as the sole foundation of society, see Hegel

Oh no wait you probably don't get lectured about Hegel in your Gender Studies and Social Injustice major

Even your fucking ID is pink

pls die

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>implying mtgow isn't
>implying fucked up kids raised by single moms is okay because their run away daddy's all empowered and sheit.

Sounds gay

Men go their own way
Alright I married a girl.

The "white race" doesn't exist, as evidence by the endless expansion of its definition over the past few hundred years and the sperging over who counts as "white" on here.

it's like creating a community that actively gives up on life because life has been shit and the current political and societal climate is hostile.

so fucking what, get over it, get on with it. everyone has to deal with bullshit in their lives. they're just cowards for not even trying.

just like nihilists or antinatalists.

If every western man goes MGTOW, we might as well hand over western Europe to the Muslims right now.

Don't get me wrong there are plenty of crazy bitches out there and you should stay the fuck away from them. Heck I'm kinda of MGTOW myself in the sense that I haven't focused my life on women in years. And it's really good: low stress and you get to constantly work on yourself and achieve shit 24/7 and I suggest all guys do that as well.

Women mainly care about 3 things in a man: confidence/looks. income and status. If you live life on your own terms, constantly improve yourself and reach your goals you'll automatically achieve all these 3 and you will attract women without any effort. You'll have your pick and won't have to settle for some dumb bitch who will eat away at your happiness. If women are your main priority in life you have it al backwards because succes will automatically attract them towards you tbqh with you fäm.

Just my two cents.

Naw, I've got my dick wet mate.

How are your wife's kicks doing? are you looking forward to sending them off to college?

You realize that the "alphas" caused the situation with the muslims in the first place by white knighting for women?

>Confidence.
Got it.
>Income.
If I wanted to pay for sex, I'd use a whore. It represents better value for money.
>Status.
Which is the same thing as income in modern society.

>If every western man goes MGTOW, we might as well hand over western Europe to the Muslims right now.

Sounds fine to me desu, I'll be laughing when feminists and sluts get stoned in the streets and women have no rights again. It'll be like going back 100 years, that's all.

Sorry, but I'm gay
But at least I'm not a beta faggot and has ill will towards others

Funny thing is, even Muslims have a better deal with marriage than white guys get.

The only reason you exist in this world, your only purpose on this planet, is to advance your own bloodline. Its a foundation, a core principle, the breed with the strongest possible mate you can find, and pass along your genes.

Then again, if you as a human do not have that instinct or intellect, then it might be best that you actually dont reproduce. You would just weaken future generations

White people exist.
Whites are the only people who create a livable society.
The majority of brown people still live in mud shacks and cloth huts
Not preserving the white race will only make white country's shitty. Haven't you learned anything from forced black/white segregation, and forced white deportation from brown countries?

Holy shit is that Tommy Wiseau?

integration**

The true red pill is to impregnate a woman in a country you don't have citizenship in, then you essentially hold all the cards.

I get not dating women, but there have been millions of guys doing it before them and none of them have been this bitchy and obnoxious about it.

It seems more like a child begging for attention.
>"I WON'T TALK TO YOU EVER AGAIN"
>"Ks"
>"I-I said I won't talk to you. Aren't you upset?"

Incidentally, it is also something women love to do.

It's good to have shit out there to warn guys about the matriarchal society we have.

If a guy can hack it I would suggest they stay single in their 20s to get maximum power in their 30s. Fuck young bitches and 30s bitches and take your pick.

But impossible really 20s is when you sting for puss something shocking.

Beta faggots that are ridding the world of their inferior genes

>a literal fag.
>complaining others aren't marrying shit tier western women.

How do you defend this shit, yank?

Bunch of psychopath nilhists really.

Like if dating not your thing, all the power to you. But these guys actively take pride in being "ghosts" that interact with as few other humans as possible because anyone not going their own way is a "mangina" just as bad as women, and apparantly sit around all waiting for society to collapse so humanity ends because they've given up on the world.

Maybe we should hand everything over to the muslims temporarily. Women have had it really fucking easy for far too long and they simply can't see the dangers of their decisions. They basically seek to feminize society as a whole and this in turn makes a country weak. This has happened countless times in history and has always ended up with their destruction.

>If every western man goes MGTOW, we might as well hand over western Europe to the Muslims right now.
>Implying we haven't aleady
wew lad

I agree with most of the viewpoints but I think it's become an identity for some people and a cry for attention. I don't like the cult of personality that's developed like in the Atheist community a decade ago.

I listened to a couple podcasts a couple years back but they just got so repetitive and monotonous. It just turned into superficial commentary on the weekly headlines, and a lot of it felt bitter and self-righteous more so than enlightened. There wasn't enough attention on what to do after you've realized that marriage in the modern West is only a liability for men and women are parasites.

I'm guessing it's because they don't want to go full redpill and alienate people with more liberal sensibilities. I've begun to care more about attacks on all Western values more so than just attacks on men.

100% understandable

and

100% not helping

I don't blame men for not wanting any part of modern women. They want to be bridezillas and the next gloria steinem, and the divorce system is rigged using 1950's models of family.

I think they shouldn't give up. I think subscribing to mgtow is fine, but they should be willing to give it up if they truly meet a woman worth a damn.

Yep, and we earn as little as possible so we don't end up funding socialist projects that directly benefit women.

The society we live in is shit, it can either offer a fair deal to us or it can collapse and I don't give a single fuck which happens.

If you have had a long-term relationship then you can do it but if you dont have any experience with women (except rejection) then you are just being ridiculous.

Sounds like my kind of party.
I too like to sit in my room and wait for the world to end.

If I could drink, I'd be an alcoholic immediately.

>Current year
>Not being an asexual nihilist

The downside is that objectivity reveals a very grim reality and leads to endless unhappiness and regret.

You might when there's nobody to sell you beer because SHTF and people are shooting at you.

Unless you're such a lump now you don't actually care if you keep breathing.

I practice what they preach, but that doesn't mean I have to sperg out and make a poliical statement out of my way of life, or seek validation.

I'm just a straight guy who thinks women are abhorrent. Not because they're women, but because they're human.

It's really not that big of a deal, they should stop being so dramatic.

Only came to post this. I'm probably doing the MGTOW stuff but I'm not going on Reddit to talk about it.

Nihilism isn't about giving up. Read Nietzshe again friend. He didn't want to be pessimist like Schopenhauer.

But I have to agree that modern nihilism is about giving up because ppl don't understand it and oversimplify it. Also, some makes it ironically about giving up (Nihilist meme) and fucktards believe it.

>You're not allowed to say shit tastes like shit if you haven't tried it before
>But if you tried it and you already burned yourself, now you can say it
What kind of logic is that. I understand that you are coming from the place of perma-virgins like to shit on women, but you know who usually give you the best relationship advice? Your friend who is currently not in a relationship, because he is not blinded by pussy

I literally don't give the slightest fuck, if the mudshits take over at least they'll keep the women in line unlike the current generation of completely cucked western men.

There is absolutely nothing you could say that would convince me to willingly allow a parasite to subsist off my labour.

WHITE KNIGHTS

The good news is the court system is gender neutral. So if your a loser of a man with no job and get divorced the man gets the alimony.

Works well for me. I haven't sworn off women or anything though. I like putting my dick in them too much. I just don't let them control my life with their spooky vagina voodoo.

You cant assume that something is shit before you try it so it is logical.

Good ideology, but tou don't need a special club. This attracts special-snowflake fedorafags.

Mgtow is shit.

Find a good women, someone you can relate to and care about

I was straight until I met a guy who I shared a lot in common with and I could be myself around

>White birth rate continues to plummet
Yeah, nice going assholes.

Not in my experience. Alpha's demand respect, beta's try to win women's respect by white knighting (mostly to no avail).

Prostitutes aren't going to give and raise your children, britladm8. That's what we need to save the west.

I'm sure they will treat us white men kindly though after they take over, just like the Jazidi and Christian men in the middle east!

People in a village nearby of me dumped pig corpses on the site of a planned refugee centre. They don't want to be ruled by islam and it's a shame there are people on Sup Forums of all places who are willing to accept that.

Even some normie farmers want to save out civilization more than you guys...

>Not finding a qt.314 that pushes you to achieve your best and allows you to combine resources to get out of the renting game sooner rather than later.

Then maybe, when they'll find back their right they'll remember that they wasted their time on stupid fight against dictionnaries and imaginary patriarchy all this time, not looking at the real danger.

It will gain momentum until women change or divorce law changes.

Not something, but shit

Read the greentext again, please

>you need to eat this big bowl of shit.
but I don't want to eat shit.
>HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S SHIT UNTIL YOU TRY.

Top fucking kek, I envy young lads who are avoiding women without first being financially raped by one.

>>Not finding a qt.314 that pushes you to achieve your best and allows you to combine resources to get out of the renting game sooner rather than later.

Nothing but autistic bullshit.

LMAO

These incels are tired of losing the game so the just give up and ''leave humanity behind''. What your retarded ass doesn't realize IS that people fucking DEPEND on other people, INCLUDING women. That's what founded and maintained our civilization. Once you become ''successful'' only overused roasties would settle for you but you hate them now AND you'll hate them then. You'll never be ACTUALLY successful and you're gonna die a virgin or a beta cuck. A FUCKING LOSER in ANY case.