Doctor Who can be a woman

>Doctor Who can be a woman
>James Bond can't be black

How do you rationalise this, Sup Forums? Your hypocrisy is showing

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>Doctor is a shapeshifting alien
>James Bond is not

>James Bond is a 6'2" man with brown eyes and brown hair
>j/k he's a 5'9" Manlet with blue eyes and dusty blond hair
>Bond
>Not a shapeshifting alien

>James bond is a concrete, unchanging character
Nice try

>Context is an alien concept to me
>oh no wait I'm just fucking retarded!

IM A RACIST, YOU'VE MADE ME A RACIST!!!!!

Only autists watch new Dr. Who so take their opinions with a grain of salt

He can but the one guy who's perfect for it doesn't wanna do it

I do not watch very much doctor who, is the doctor being women now lore safe ?

Cause James Bond was literally written as a white male.

The doctor while always being male is an alien species giving more freedom

International spies cant be black, because they attract too much attention (except in 3rd world countries like africa or the US).

So then you'd have no problem with a remake of Roots with the slave Kunta Kinte being played by a white man and his owner being a black woman?

>white man slave to a black woman
>inb4 sweating man posts

I'm racist, not sexist.

Also you can argue that Bond is supposed to epitomise imperial Britain, therefore his race is central to his character in a way that Doctor Who's gender is not.

Niggers are smelly and ugly, that's all the reason I need you sniveling rat kike

I want see Roots that disrespects history by having it be softcore porn with white woman lusting over her sweaty new black slave.

>I'm racist, not sexist
Lol fucking FAGGOT

They can, I have no problem with any of that shit. When people start asking for a lady bond, however, is when I get upset. It makes no sense, nobody really would want that, and it doesn't fit the series at all. It's a men's power fantasy.

James Bond is a FUCKING WHITE MALE

If they want a Black spy, just create a new one

>muh dik

>When people start asking for a lady bond, however,
That's that new Atomic Blond movie. "So empowering!"

Bond can only be black if he's Idris Elba. Same with Doctor Who.

>just create a new one
but that wouldn't be nearly subversive enough for (((them)))

James Bond isn't established as an alien time lord that has reincarnation abilities. People wanting James Bond to be another gender or race should fight for a new 00 agent within MI6 in the established universe.

Yeah, the Master did it first (and was surpisingly decent, better than John Simm singing and prancing around anyway)

Not trying be SJW, but people need to be pissed off about characters being new race only if it becomes there defining trait and was done to spread diversity.

Yeah, just like Dr Who is a fucking white male...

...

I honestly couldn't give less of a shit about Bond's ethnicity if I tried. It has no bearing on the character.

Now, if they were going to make Bond female, on the other hand...

Just the opposite, they could pose as janitors or something and get in that way.

I-is this a clip from one of those sisst hypno videos?

"Mark Wahlberg could convincingly play a Zipdisk!"

Agreed. Making James black for the sake of him being black is extremely lazy and disingenuous. However, that seems par for the course with Hollywood. Bond is so iconic a character that he should be immune to such jackassery.

I can't imagine the mental gymnastics that one has to go through in order to justify a character as a "black" or "female" James Bond. You've already lost when the attempt the connection and/or comparison.

Making Dr Who female for the sake of him being female is extremely lazy and disingenuous. However, that seems par for the course with Hollywood. Dr Who is so iconic a character that he should be immune to such jackassery.
I can't imagine the mental gymnastics that one has to go through in order to justify a character as a "black" or "female" Dr Who. You've already lost when the attempt the connection and/or comparison.

James Bond is explicitly about whiteness. It's about a white man traveling the colonies from his broken empire, trying to realign himself with this new brave world where whitey is only allowed to civilize the primitives in a covert manner.
The books were outright racist, describing Koreans as ants and whatnot. The earlier movies got by with exotic (read: non-white) locales and evil minorities.
These days the movies are much more about white introspection. It's clear that the luxury items and debauchery are used as a coping mechanisms and it makes sense considering how the discussion goes about post-colonial guilt.

I wouldn't cry if he was made another race but the movie wouldn't be able to mine that concept anymore, which I think would be a shame. Questions about whiteness, white civilization, white guilt and post-colonial guilt will stay relevant for a long time.

I'm not a Dr. Who fan, but the door is opened to shenanigans like this because of the reincarnation aspect. Was there ever an established characterization that he is only brought back as a male and can't change genders?

Any country worth spying on is white or white-passing. A nigger can't sneak around in Russia.

>genders
*sexes

Thanks for catching that, user. I must now conduct my penance to save face and further embarrassment. They are always watching.

I'm not a James Bond fan, but the door is opened to shenanigans like this because of the Agent no. aspect. Was there ever an established characterization that he is only brought back as a white male and can't change skin colour?

The character was specifically written as a white man (I believe of Scottish/Swiss descent?). It factors into his character a bit. The same can't be said for Dr. Who.

>The character was specifically written as a white man (I believe of Scottish/Swiss descent?)
Source

youtube.com/watch?v=JvW-ZGNjBYc

It's like a koala crapped a rainbow in my brain!

Yes I'm sure Sup Forums will be all embracing of a black doctor when that day comes

>Bond's parents were given as Andrew Bond, from the village of Glencoe, Scotland, and Monique Delacroix, from the canton of Vaud, Switzerland
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond

Fleming's novels for a start. Casino Royal is the first, I believe. The dude was pretty racist, so there's no way he ever intended for the character to be anything but a self-insert for his time in the British military.

Only if it's Moss desu

I don't know nearly enough about the franchise to agree or disagree but that's an interesting take I hadn't considered

>Being born somewhere particular means you have a particular skin colour
There are whites in Kenya, user.

I don't know about you guys but I'm progressive enough to believe that a black man can be a chauvinistic alcoholic sociopathic dog of the government

Though just make a new fucking character Jesus is it really that offensive to ask?

youtube.com/watch?v=-crmAkxrto4 .

James bond can be black
But he cant be a woman
Same with doctor who

Pretty much my reaction

I feel like I'm in a madhouse when people start talking about how his whiteness was never an issue. Are we even talking about the same character? He fetishizes everything european and white, all his suits, his guns and his cars. I'm not saying other people can't partake in this fetishization but it's peak whiteness.

>Fleming has Goldfinger say this about Koreans in the novel of the same name “They are the cruelest, most ruthless people in the world… When they want women, street women are brought down from London… The women are not much to look at, but they are white and that is all the Koreans ask – to submit the white race to the grossest indignities.””

>Bond had a natural affection for coloured people, but he reflected how lucky England was compared with America where you had to live with the coloured problem from the schooldays up. He smiled as he remembered something Felix Leiter had said to him on their last assignment together in America. Bond had referred to Mr. Big, the famous Harlem criminal, as 'that damned n*****'. Leiter had picked him up. 'Careful now James,' he had said. 'People are so sensitive about colour around here that you can't even ask a barman for a jigger of rum. You have to ask for a jegro.'
The memory of Leiter's wisecrack cheered Bond up.

Bond was literally a white savior. He's even being covertly racist because "people are so sensitive about colour". Again, a white hero for the post-colonial age.

I honestly don't mind if he is made another race but it should be done with this in mind.

People are picking up on the surface-details and acting like "what do you mean, can't colored people be cool and suave like Bond? Are you saying brown people can't be suave?" as if Bond is nothing but a stand-in for suaveness. It's white suaveness, with white luxury items and he's basically setting things right in a world where Britannia no longer rules the waves.

explain this

why are americans okay with brits playing superman and spider-man

why are american such a fucking cuckolds?

It's easier for a brit to descend to the level of a yank for a movie than it is for a yank to ascend to a brit.

>my parents bought me a sociology degree
>and all i can do is make this sjw comment

what exactly is sjw about it

It's balanced and thoughtout and takes historical context into account and doesn't further his narrative of hollywood jews turning everyone black, so it's an sjw comment

Uh-oh. You've internalized progressive thinking to such a degree that you're no longer able to recognize it.

>balanced and thought out

Imagine thinking the word 'progressive' was a negative

It shows an in-depth knowledge of source material, understanding of the writer's motivations and beliefs, an ability to catch on to themes beyond surface value, and an ability to draw conclusions from those things. So yes.

James Bond is what all men want to be

Nobody wants to be a nigger

dr who is just one tier above capeshit so i'm not surprised that the people that actually watch it don't mind that their character has been diversified. still bring on black bond, because bond fucking sucks. what is it with americans and living vicariously through shitty hero's, go out and be your own hero you sad fuck

>says the guy whining on a imageboard site
go out and be your own hero you sad fuck

James Bond is a franchise for men, Doctor Who is a franchise for retards

>All men want to be smug pretty boys playing pretend for the state.

maybe bongs.

I actually think I'm arguing for the merits of a white Bond. I'm not making a recommendation however, that stuff should be in the hands of the creatives. Perhaps they can find a great angle with a sikh Bond.

Thanks bro. It's one of those topics I've thought about, partly because it's an autistically novel thing to be contrarian about (that whiteness has always been an integral part of Bond's character, not that Bond should remain white) but also because I feel it's a weird blind spot. I think it robs people of the full experience when they don't realize that Bond is the action hero response to the fall of the British empire.

OBAMA LOOKING AT MY DICK PICS WATCHING ME JACK OFF

James Bond is a metaphor for british colonialism, so it would ironically be going soft on whitey to make him black and take away those imperialist connotations

>Blacks and women can't have original characters and need to race/genderbend roles
Sad!

James bond died with Albert Brocolli and Saltzman.

let the blacks have him.

this guy played Gustaf Mannerheim, why even care anymore?

I think that's the plot of Mandingo