Took an impoverished ruined country

>took an impoverished ruined country
>turned it into a superpower in the span of two decades
>while also destroying Nazi Germany and conquering half of Europe
>hated degeneracy
>hated liberalism
>instituted what was virtually national-socialism with some commie flavor
>improved the lives of the majority of Soviet citizens (check fucking facts if you don't believe it)

Now I don't like Stalin, but why do Hitlerboos here hate him?
He was literally a successful, alpha Hitler, who overcame far greater odds.
If you like Hitler but hate Stalin, you're literally no different from double-thinking SJW faggots.
>b-but he murdered 80 bazzilion of his citizens
It's amazing how some people here dismiss all evidence about Holocaust but readily accept Stalin's death toll.
>b-but he was a Jewish puppet!111
So why did he persecute Jews?

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basically all is true but it's cooler to support hitler

nah I want rabid Naziboos here who write erotic stories about Hitler's mustache to resort to mental gymnastics in order to show me how is their idol anything but Stalin's bitch in every sense, outside of ''muh fee-fees''

nein, you will not get that

>This triggers the commie

Stalin was a monster. He was so shit that his wife killed herself.
Even documentaries against Hitler show his human side while Stalin was cold as stone.

So where the Russian people just a pawn used by Stalins great vision? Arent they who kicked out and beat the germans? Arent they the ones who worked their fucking ass off to turn Russia into a superpower? Just think what they could have achieved without that horrible piece of shit Stalin.

stalin is the monster hollywood kikes paint hitler as, despite that stalin was under kike employ

communism would have at least produced actual bread instead of this factory made piece of tasteless shit

If I remember right be brutalized his own son, until he attempted suicide. When he survived he told him he was such a failure he couldn't even die right.

fuck off and die, stalinist pig. Stalin made sure Russia will never be a good country in the next 100 years. He made sure eastern europe wouldnt recover from the war for at least 30 years.
Go get anexed by Yugoslavia, mountain nigger

here come that communism, o shit what up

>Stalin was a monster
so it's ''muh feels''
Hitler was a monster too, who ordered murder or destruction of millions without remorse
>s-stalinist pig
I'm not a Stalinist my Bulgarian friend, I'm simply wondering how can someone LOVE Hitler and HATE Stalin at the same time, when Stalin was literally a successful Hitler
it could be that betas here love failures like they are

>is a puppet of one jewish sect
>banned anti semitism
>disallowed holocaust denial
>that jewish sect killed other jews that were hostile to the sect
>instituted jewish, cultural norms (marxism)
>killed those directly who opposed these jewish norms
>killed even more indirectly through mass famine
>shitskin rape squads lead by jew officers on the germans

>"but he killed jews as well, it does not count~! Aryan supermensch he was who lead the russians!"
>brain drain into the west by the remaining sane and pure russians intensifies.

and now its mostly degenerate drunkards, shitskins and mudslimes.

>SIX MILLION

ok there anglo

riddle me this

If WW1 and the civil war cost millions of lives, and WW2 much more drastically so, where are all the deaths from the supposed "50 million" killed by Stalin? It's a myth not supported by any demographic data. if 50 million mysteriously perished between an event that killed a few million, and ww2 which killed 25 million, the USSR would have lost 1/3 of its total population in that time. the only way it would work is if the fertility rate in the 30s was unrealistically huge - and why would it be when this was supposedly the time of starving people dying in droves?

this post is literal diarrhea
go back to doing erotic asphyxiation while watching Chinese pedo cartoons, and stay out of historical and political discussion

>why do Hitlerboos here hate him?
Because he rekt their idol, proving just how superior the Soviets were to anything the Reich could have been.

I'm not a communist
And you fucking retard should know soviet communism isn't how communism should have worked out

>instituted jewish, cultural norms (marxism)
he reverted the marxist policies lenin and trotsky put in place. read something other than delusional stormshit blogs.

>>Hitler was a monster too, who ordered murder or destruction of millions without remorse

>MY specific brand of communism has never been tried!!

This meme needs to die already. Russia was a world power before the bullshitviks. The fact that it required as much of a human toll as it did just to keep up with West should instead be testament to ultimate failure of communism.

>mexican intellectuals

>war for at least 30 years
>30 years
>30

lmao, itll take much longer for eastern Europe to recover than that

liar, all french are communist by blood

Go away FSB man, nobody likes russians, nor your russian degenerate jew culture. Not here, and not on double the best chan.

what about cuba communism
venezuelan communism
north korean communism

So where are those rich and prosperous commie states? Do they all live in a science fiction books? Life isn't a book, kiddo.

This. Eat lead communard frog.

There's nothing cool about communism. Nothing.

not true communism/socialism

t. commie

>let amerikikes implement marshal plan
>dont rape balkans for cash
>dont nationalize the economy
>dont bankrupt the countries 3 times in 45 years
30 years is enough to become an economic and scientific powerhouse, senpai. Or at least develop econimically enough to resemble a part of europe and not africa with whites.

there's literally no contention to the fact that Soviets DID improve the lives of majority
it came at terrible cost, true
and geopolitical relevance has nothing to do with this
yeah that's funny but ''Stalin was a monster"!!111''
literally reverse SJWs
>nobody likes russians
Stalin was a Georgian

>Russia was a world power before the bullshitviks.

not true f a m. see the russo japanese war and ww1. while it's a myth that russian/soviet soldiers would have no weapon (50 million mosins exist in the world), there were not enough munitions to supply the huge army they fielded in ww1. much of the civil war was fought with swords on horseback, as well. moscow and st petersburg were relatively industrialized, yet the rest of the country was entirely agrarian, comparable to western europe in the mid 1800s.

Starving people always have more kids so they can eat them, plus russia had fucked alot of women because they rape and border jump

>inb4 /leftypol/ laundry list of literally who regimes lasting weeks at a time as examples of "successful" socialist governments

Stalin's USSR, like China post-Mao and with the one-child policy, shows how important population control or reduction is to economic growth.

Africa will never advance if their GDP needs to double every 20 years to keep up with birth rates.

>>took an impoverished ruined country

Stopped reading there. It was impoverished because of him and his Jew army. Russia under Nicholas II was the best Russia has ever been, even during a war.

Fuck off, nu-commie.

>communism
Stalinism is literally NS minus racial bullshit
if you weren't a historical illiterate you'd know that Strasser for example advocated alliance with Bolsheviks

I liked the part where he caused an artificial famine in the countryside and kept it from his wife until she found out and killed herself.

The only good he did was to kill off Lenin's old guard in the Bolshevik party, thereby saving the remnants of old Russian culture from being erased by the communists. It should be no surprise that he was denounced by Khrushchev as soon as he stepped into power.

Hitler was a fuck up during wartime but the soviet people were suffering long before the Wehrmacht rolled over the border.

if the """"liberators""""" would have fucked off after they """"liberated"""" we'd be fine and probably would have gotten some of that free american cash

Germany is still a country literally only because the USA pumped a fortune into it and let the others rot for 50 years

While in the 25 years we have somewhat recovered, it still takes a lot more time to start back up from 0

>industrialized the country by enslaving own people and got credits for this
>was so scared when Nazies invaded Soviet Union that he hided in his personal residence
>Made absolutely ridiculous military mistakes during the first two years of war that led to millions of casualties
>Robbed banks before he went into politics
>Was one of those autistic people who destroyed an Empire and turned it in a bunch of ruined and starving gulags

The propaganda used to be so ridiculous when Stalin was in power that people started saying "The more you kill Russians, the more they like you".

>trusting soviet statistics straight from pravda
I guess I can't really fault someone from "nigger mountain" for not knowing any better.

>It was impoverished because of him and his Jew army
true but how is that relevant to this discussion
USSR was ruined by the time civil war ended
>nu-commie
I'm not a communist though
learn to read

so you're actually saying that every 2 citizens had over 4 children in the 30s? that the fertility rate was higher than ever recorded on earth?

try actually reading about it.

He was a literal fascist

I don't understand why Sup Forums doesn't like him

>where he caused an artificial famine
that's still debated, but in any case I'm not a Stalin supporter, so why do I give a fuck?
it's not like Hitler didn't order even worse things
>but the soviet people were suffering
this is what illiterate idiots actually believe
Soviets IMPROVED the lives of MAJORITY, in material sense
again I'm not a commie supporter, read my fucking question, my question is how can someone hate Stalin but support Hitler
>trusting Nazi statistics straight from Goebbels
two can play that game, my NJW friend

no, my specific brand of fertility has not been tried yet.

>>try actually reading about it.

I have a degree in the field you cuck. Russia under Monarchy was better in EVERY way as opposed to Russia without a monarchy. The reason Russia is so fucked today is because Stalin and Friends decided to murder an entire family in cold blood.

Fuck off.

>30 years is enough to become an economic and scientific powerhouse

Not in the post-industrialized world. You only win if you're an early adopter, the later you get on the harder it gets.

Because he treated the Russian people like filth, took their food, gave out execution quotas (kill X number of people in Y region, it doesn't matter who) and was an all round psychopath.

I'm not a Wehraboo, but at least when Hitler tried to kill of the Russians he was doing it as the fucking enemy.

exactly
finally, someone who understands what I'm talking about
this is not a pro-Stalin thread, this is a ridicule of Naziboos

>The more you kill Russians, the more they like you".
The trick is you have to be "Russian" though. They will never forgive the Mongols, Napoleon, or Hitler - and to a lesser degree the Swedes and Poles, but Ivan the Terrible, Lenin, and Stalin (yes I know he was really Georgian, so I include honorary "Russians" as well) remain among their most beloved leaders.

>Soviets IMPROVED the lives of MAJORITY, in material sense


>i-im not a commie supported, b-but STALIN IS SO AWESOME

>this is not a pro-Stalin thread
Jesus christ you sound insecure to have to keep saying this, when you clearly have Stalin's cock deep in your throat.

Because the average Sup Forums tard is within the two digit IQ range.

They heard that that cool Hitler dude hates commies and figured they'll hate them too.

in what way did he improve the lives of soviets if they were all starving to death

these two
fucking mountain niggers and their jewish tricks
we're completely infiltrated by the local branch of KGB. Literally our dictator's bodyguard is the prime minister today. Nuke us already...
out of the last 27 the first 10 were a nightmare ridden with hyperinflation, theft and crony capitalism + privatization of extremely expensive public assets for literally nothing (guess who bought them)

Bruh why you gotta bring facts into this, i mean cmon its the 20th century, trans starving people have right too you bigot

>ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME MUST BE A NAZI!
Every fucking time. Christ, you communiggers are pathetic. More than the stormweenies even.

not really, lives of majority were objectively worse in material sense
there's a reason revolution happened you know (even though it wasn't as clear-cut as memes go, namely Bolsheviks only enjoyed minority support)
>he treated Russian people like filth
he didn't treat majority as filth
Hitler was no different
>and was an all round psychopath
Hitler was no different, and this is especially true for some of his associates like Heydrich or Himmler

>how can someone hate Stalin but support Hitler
because stalin have nothing to do with hitler, hitler loved his own people and cared about it, stalin was just a emotionless fucker, germans loved Hitler, Russians really never loved this piece of shit. He wasn't even elected.
>Svanidze and Stalin were married for just 18 months before she died of an illness in 1907. Her death sent Stalin into a deep grief, and he reportedly said "with her died my last warm feelings for humanity." Years later, several of her family members were executed during Stalin's purges.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kato_Svanidze

>turned it into a superpower in the span of two decades
Yeah, only with US loans and Henry Ford getting the industrialization going

>while also destroying Nazi Germany and conquering half of Europe
Yeah, thanks to gibsmedats from the US

>hated degeneracy
>hated liberalism
Well that was normal at that time

>instituted what was virtually national-socialism with some commie flavor
If that were true, then he would have done everything to save his people and not kill millions. Also NatSoc is ethno-centrist, and the USSR was full of kikes, jews, mongolians and lots of other shit.

>improved the lives of the majority of Soviet citizens
It would be strange if this was not the case. It can't go much further down after Russia losing WW1.

>Now I don't like Stalin, but why do Hitlerboos here hate him?
Eternal struggle, Natsoc/fascism vs. communism

>He was literally a successful, alpha Hitler, who overcame far greater odds.
The communist got into power with huge funding by wallstreet, including imported/bought revolutionaries to a country that had just been defeated. His country was industrialized through US help and run by kikes in every relevant position and he "won" the easter front by gibsmedats from US/Britain. Take away foreign aid and his country would have barely gone past agriculture after WW1. At the same time, Hitler had to go the democratic way, no foreign aid, rebuild the country on "his own" and wasnt supported by foreign forces during the war (at least not on the level of lend lease).

>If you like Hitler but hate Stalin, you're literally no different from double-thinking SJW faggots.
Yeah, because they fought for the same thing right?

>So why did he persecute Jews?
He persecuted anyone who was against the system, also jews. Yet, anti-semitism was illegal and all relevant positions in industry, secret police and government were jews.

but it's true
I have to repeat it because you're a bunch of illiterate niggers who can't read
I am addressing Naziboos from the start, why are you even involving yourself if you aren't a Naziboo?
>Now I don't like Stalin
Literally in OP you dumb faggot

The problem is our last monarch was a literal cuck. He could drown commies and other traitors sponsored by germany in their own blood.

Russia was literally not impoverished or ruined before the bolsheviks.

Russia was one of the world's top grain exporters, but the USSR suffered from chronic famine.

>BUT HITLER WAS SIMILAR SO IT DOESNT MATTER!!!

youtube.com/watch?v=0XxYwWg7F8I

>that's still debated
It really isn't. The only person to surpass Stalin's economic prowess is Mao, with his 50 million dead chinks.

Hitler of course ordered unsavoury things (see Hitler's plans for Leningrad), but the difference is Hitler ordered those things done to the enemy, not to his own people.

It's not an endorsement of Hitler but you're intentionally ignoring the distinction.

Somewhat true but time is changing - there're obviously rednecks who believe autistic propaganda from the last century, but almost in every major city there's a monument dedicated to Stalin's regressions that remind of his crimes. Nobody actually likes him besides rednecks, old people and commie party.

Fuck off, negro. Official estiamte of killed citizines (not even imprisoned) during his repressions is 800k ppl, 30m killed coz he was retarded and let german cucks invade so ezly. Sralin was the fucking worst thing ever happend to russia.

>he didn't treat majority as filth
He came to power on the back of the working class and rural peasantry, and proceeded starve them or deport them to Siberia in unimaginable numbers.

>Hitler was no different
Hitler didn't starve his own people in peacetime, the pre-war concentration camps in Germany were orders of magnitude smaller than the camps in Siberia.

>I have to repeat it because you're a bunch of illiterate niggers who can't read
you have to repeat it because we can't hear you over papa stalin's scrotum slapping against your buttocks

I don't. Wish we had here in the west eastern communism.

Just imagine it. Our retards would be literally impaled. Video related. You can see how stupid they are even without speaking spanish.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ib5ZtnQpw7s

>hitler loved his own people
is that why he cursed them to perish at the end of WW2, when they failed at executing his glorious plans?
>being this naive

>Russians never loved this piece of shit
some did, some didn't
>He wasn't even elected
neither was Hitler for that matter
>NatSoc is ethno-centrist
that's literally the only difference between Stalinism and NatSoc, and it's nothing major in real life
>Eternal struggle
but what are you struggling against, when your enemy is literally the same as you, besides some superficial differences?
>because they fought for the same thing right?
pretty much
>Hitler
>no foreign aid
I suggest you read about Schacht's reforms, so you understand how dumb you sound right now
Hitler and Nazi regime had a lot of ''covert'' aid

based russia bringing the truth bombs
How will OP ever recover?

>Montenigger

I agree with your statement. I think most people who like Hitler don't realize that communists are the same as nazis.

it doesn't matter in regards to this story
Jesus Christ are you people retarded?
can you even read your own language?
>not to his own people
do you think he wouldn't order that, if he needed to?
I mean, he sent 13 and 14 year olds to perish at the front when he lacked cannon fodder to sustain his already lost war
''Hitler loved Germans'' is a huge fucking meme
he loved Germans in the same way Stalin loved Russians and other Soviet citizens
>starve them or deport them to Siberia in unimaginable numbers.
it would be good if you had a source for ''unimaginable numbers''
from what I got, famines included, he killed less than 10 million, and even this is probably an overstatement
>Hitler didn't starve his own people in peacetime
if he had to, he would've

>rural peasantry

They were included only later on. The whole Revolution was targetted towards factory workers. When it was time to show the rural folk who's the boss only then were they added to the propaganda. Some villages revolted and that resulted in additional bloodbath.

1917 russians lived in huts in Siberia
1945 russians lived in commieblocks with water, electricity and (some) food

Also, you could say the same about Hitler

How come commies get their own famine thread whilst we dont??? Realy makes me hunger

ctr focus on trump threads, we've been spoiling jewish lies years before you came here

>NatSoc is ethno-centrist
>Soviet communism was not

In practice it was. Let's be honest, it was a Russian empire.

Commies opress the majority (russians in our case) in favor of minorities (baltshits, churkas), nazis opress the minorities (jews, gypsies, psheks) in favor of majorities (germans). There s nothing worse than a fucking commies.

semi literate georgian that decided nothing

easily because I stated 25 times I'm not a Stalin supporter, but you choose to ignore that and keep going with ad hominem because you can't respond to my main argument
not all communists, but Stalinism is literally Nazism minus ethno-centrism, as this German said
you even had traces of that in Stalin's ideology, he was far from orthodox commie

>tells me how dumb I am and at the same time says NatSoc and Communism are the same thing.

>I suggest you read about Schacht's reforms
What great has he achieved which came through foreign aid? Most relevant support during the war was through IG Farben (led by warburg), engines from Henry ford and some electronics from General electric.

>but what are you struggling against, when your enemy is literally the same as you, besides some superficial differences?
One wants different states for different ethneties that they can live in peace, have their own culture and people and these states survive through mutual support, keep their traditions and family values. The other wants to conquer the planet, equalize everything, multi-ethnic lifes (race mixing), destroy the family...

>and it's nothing major in real life
Race mixing is nothin major in real life? Ok.....

In what practice lmao? USSR was ruled by the jews and khohols, russians were an opressed majority.

>the government led by a Georgian that banned the use of Russian and encouraged minority languages was a Russian Empire

epic

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korenizatsiya

>While in the 25 years we have somewhat recovered
What? We're in deeper shit than we were ever.

But he didn't oppress the majority more than he needed

The ones who actually suffered during his rule were the Germans, the Ukrainians, the Central Asians and the Baltics

Georgian here, both stalin and hitler were trash.

early on Bolsheviks didn't enjoy that much support
not like it stopped them from seizing power and murdering fucking everyone who opposed them
>JOOISH LIEZ
yeah that won't help you here, you're totally out of your depth, you can't even follow me anymore can you, you dumb troglodyte?
he was far from extreme, but yeah
>it was Russian empire
not really, but it wasn't ''HQ of socialist revolution'' either

which is why they imported food from the us

wewlad

>more than 30m russians killed during his rule
>didn't opress more than he needed

Venezuela is socialist, just like Nepal. Problem with a lot of these countries is that they are isolated and can't trade.
Do you remember how the US had to bail out South Korea during the 70's, just so that they wouldn't look like shit compared to North Korea?

>1945 russians lived in commieblocks with water, electricity and (some) food

Can you name the city?

>NatSoc and Communism are the same thing.
...and STALINISM
and not same, but similar
>What great has he achieved which came through foreign aid?
finance and shit, read, I can't write that shit now and this is not the subject of the thread
>One wants different states for different ethneties that they can live in peace
HAHAHAHAHAH
this SJW-tier whitewashing
Hitler was a fucking German nationalist and imperialist who planned to starve and enslave tens of millions of people
this Rainbow Hitler you imagined in your deluded brain never existed
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