Has Japanese Cinema completely lost their ability to produce Kino?
Japan was one of the best cinema up to 5~ years ago, for ages but now they can't even compete with a 3rd world country
Everything they produce is summer flick / anime adaptation capeshit
What went wrong?
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Globalization and the ticking time-bomb of total societal collapse in their country from low birthrates and a culture where suicide is way more appealing than work.
They moved onto anime.
*writes idiot on cheek*
Wow, art.
Kore-Eda and Kurosawa are still around though.
>in their country from low birthrates
Several western countries including Germany has lower native birth rate than Japan. It's only that Japan isn't fucking itself by having their native population being replaced by mudslimes.
Good point, Japan will probably bounce back and recover after the low birthrates really become a problem whereas countries like Germany will just die.
main problem is that they apparently lost all concept of lighting work and because of that everything they shoot looks like a daytime tv production.
I think it's because the modern view of entertainment in japan is such that they see movies and tv shows merely as platforms through which they move products and the products that they move is young stars which then have cross-platform career as singers/idols/tv hosts/actors/etc...
I love Shin Godzilla so I don't care about stupid kino meme.
Shin Godzilla is pure kino though
Just watched this
It was shit
>waah Why arent they translating 2017 jap movies for me waah
then OP is wrong and this thread is pointless
Animation had replaced it, it's nice since animation is completely dead in the West.
that's about the only kino though
Eh I kind of liked it, the end not so much
Pretty sure it went to shit in the seventies. Just like Italian cinema. Hollywood ate everything. Sad.
i think an important thing to remember is that the artistic integrity borne from our grandparents generation defines our standards as a whole but those standards are not important today and nobody really cares as much about film media as they did back then
compared to our parents, who were still behind enough to chase and build upon those standards, we have literally nothing to compare ourselves to. we have the ashes of something that used to be great that can no longer apply to the present, only give us self reflection. thats why we are pretty important, but wont be remembered. because theres no room for gods or idols in our gen. that will be saved for the next, where society will care once again for working hard.
lets all enjoy the growing pains together, friends. and watch for what awaits us.
Go to bed
Did you expect any less from the kino master?
I want the two hours I spent watching 3.0 back.
You guys are holding Japan to an unfair standard. Look at China. It's 10 times the population and the entire mainland will never, ever produce any piece of art worth of note.
Meanwhile Taiwan produces top tier kino with its small as fuck population.
I guess it has to do with the cultural climate more than anything.
Japan needs to cut it's population. There's too many of them On the islands already.
It was far too edgy in a way only Japan seems to be able to do
What is this horseshit? China has produced a large variety of good movies in the last ten years, hell they've released some good films this year alone.
Japanese film has been in utter stagnation since the late 80s, maybe 90s if you want to be ambitious. And their latest output is absolute dreck that makes indian cinema look like kino.
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What are some top tier Taiwan kino?
t. Chinamen
Farewell my concubine is a top 10 film of all time. Fuck outta here
I'm being unironic here. Give me some Taiwan kino to watch.
Shin Godzilla was awesome. More anime directors need to do live-action work. Working with drawings gives them great sense for visuals.
>everything they shoot looks like a daytime tv production
I still enjoy Japanese movies but holy shit 1000x this. Japan needs to get its kino-sense back.
Besides Kurosawa, can anyone recommend some good Japanese films? I've seen Battle Royal and I Am a Hero.
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I don't understand the love for this film. It was people answering phones, switching offices and having awkwardly shot conversations on rooftops. Godzilla was defeated by taking a sip of unobtainium. Was there something I missed?
I want a Mitsuha gf
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Three of those guys on the left are the same person
i don't know about the other thre
What are some great Chinese movies? I want to check them out.
Hong Kong doesn't count though they still have some freedom of thought there. But anything that comes from the mainland is basically cowritten by the CCP and those guys have no idea about art or subtlety. I can guarantee you that any Chinese movie that is remotely non-pedestrian is either made with huge foreign involvement or produced in Hong Kong. Mainland China is an extremely morally and culturally desolate place.
Check out the Wong Fei Hongs
Because of that treatment, any effort towards the scripts, cinematography, and acting is secondary. Where are all the good Japanese acting and movie-making schools?
Poor production quality in order to save money, everything coming out now looks like a cheap tv show shot in digital, also this generation can't produce any actors with even a hint of talent, they all look like they came directly from some hair commercial and their performances are beyond cringe.
The main problem is likely those at the top are worthless at their job and have only reached their position due to ruthless office politics or nepotism.
Won Kar Wai's early films up to and including In The Mood For Love
Zhang Yimou's films before Hero when he became a puppet for the Chinese government's modus operandi.
Anything Stephen Chou up to Kung Fu Hustle.
Based Ozu my lad
Yakuza (namely Yamaguchi-gumi and Inagawa-kai) is also an important behind-the-scenes factor.
>888
very auspicious
but Chen Kaige is from Beijing
What movie making schools? Kurosawa and his contemporaries tried desperately to pass their knowledge and philosophies onto the next generation but the economic bubble bursting in the early 90's killed any and all momentum the Japanese film industry had, hence why everything since is super safe, tie-in garbage to a pop star or anime series, they're even more risk-averse than Hollywood is now, at least big studios will still put out a prestige picture like Dunkirk every now and then.
>Japanese anime and video games are more kino than their film industry
Why DOES this happen?
Thanks! I'll check him out.
That's sad. At least a small independent film scene exists in Japan.
Masaki Kobayashi's films, specifically Hara-Kiri and Kwaidan, I'd recommend The Human Condition trilogy, but it's nearly 10 hours long.
leave horror-kino to me anons
Are Korean films kino?
Every major Korean film made these days get 90%+ rating on rottentomato/imdb (Like the wailing) but I haven't seen them and they rate anything 90%+
Their suspense films are pretty kino though
The length doesn't bother me, I'll check his stuff out too.
Going to start Tokyo Story now.
They have a solid mix of kino and pure trash. There almost always well shot and produced though
If you havent seen the handmaiden i recommend it
This is the most misogynistic thing I've seen all day. I should be able to downvote you.
>he still use this old meme
Is he hafu?
No
he looks mexican
It's that subset of Japanese people that look Eurasian.
Japanese cinema is doing very well in Japan. Regardless of what anyone thinks about its quality.
Talent agencies control the talent (actors/idols/TV personalities) and the talent is where the viewers and money are. The talent is the product, the movie or show is just the means of delivering the product and as such relatively unimportant. Production committees in movie production result in playing things safe because the sponsors don't want to associate themselves with anything controversial, and when television networks are involved they want a movie that can be safely played on TV later.
This is what I've gathered from people who probably know what they're talking about.
Anime is a weird industry not related to the live action industry, has far fewer creative constraints, is usually not aimed at mainstream audiences, and is a highly visual medium that places a lot of emphasis on shots (as opposed to Western animation where only motion matters).
The vast majority of immigration in western Europe is white, non-white immigration in germany is only like 10%, the brown horde pol shit is a meme to scare low information retards into voting for deregulation and tax cuts for millionaires
>Production committees
Always feels like a red flag when a Japanese show, movie etc has ________ production committee some where visible.
Last nip film I saw was Harmonium, total garbage.
>Japan was one of the best cinema up to 5~ years ago
Japanese cinema has been mediocre for decades, I know you weebs can't admit that but jesus it's time to face reality
right-wing parties in europe mostly aren't market radicals like in the us, Front National in France is even outright socialist
Anime has production committees too, but they don't work the same way.
This is mostly a meme. People who have watched significant amounts of Japanese movies are an extremely small minority (and none of them are weebs). The rest just repeat what they've been told and/or what they've extrapolated from a couple of movies.
Korean films are revengekino. Literally all of them are about revenge.
Literally all the ones popular in the West, maybe.
>Japan will probably bounce back and recover after the low birthrates really become a problem
>Japan needs to cut it's population. There's too many of them On the islands already.
Neither of you seem to know how population works. Japan isn't just not having children, it's having an increasingly aging population. Eventually they'll be 50% senior citizens. There's no real "bouncing back" from that. Labor shortages will eventually make it impossible to have a sustainable economy and they'll plunge into third world status before long. Your precious anime production factories are going the way of the dinosaurs.
>all of them are about revenge.
No wonder.
I don't get the big deal with the declining birthrates, doesn't Japan have an overpopulation issue? Of course over a period of time it would get to be a huge issue, but at the moment is it not a good thing?
Old people in japan have all money and preferences.
Just cut this down, make them poor.
Boom, japan saved.
>your grandparents were cucked so badly by the Japs that you inherit their butthurt
they did that while looking good and that's all that matters
>there are People in this Thread talking about japanese Kino who haven't seen Pic related.
Seriously though, go watch this Masterpiece. I do not watch Anime in general but this feels like a Hollywood Classic in Terms of Cinematography. Easily one of the GOATs in Animation.
They have a right to hate Japan.
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It's a problem when we have an economic system that constantly needs to grow or it will cave in on itself.
>yfw Sup Forums ruined Sup Forums forever
underrated as fuck
watch it you fucking plebas
>Just cut this down, make them poor.
Old people make the policy decisions in that country. Good luck, commie pig.
ME PERSONALLY i love how they transitioned from black and white people to color people
>commie
Actually it is a commie thing, to make old people life better with younger people money.
This is why when your society have more old people than young people, you are fucked.
>People who have watched significant amounts of Japanese movies are an extremely small minority (and none of them are weebs).
Yes, let's greentext and reaction image a sentence that states a plain fact.
was this pretty good? I was gonna pick it up soon.
Who wouldn't laugh at weebs that think they're better than other weebs?
What does that have to do with anything I said?
I prefer Okamoto Kihachi version
they have o deal with their own local capeshit effect:Lots of Live action adaptations of anime
Almost all of them are based on a manga, which is infinitely more varied than superhero comics. And they've been doing them since the 1970s.
I love this and don't even care
> the gold one is cool
Talking about how good/bad japanese cinema/tv is is pretty irrelevant since most stuff will never get translated so measuring the quality is useless unless you have decent japanese skill
13 Assassins is Kino though
There were a lot of Western releases and a decent amount of fansubs back when I watched Japanese movies. Not everything got subs, but more than enough did.
tfw Japan has been screwed for the last 26 years