Serious question to Christians: why don't you believe Muhammad was a prophet of God...

Serious question to Christians: why don't you believe Muhammad was a prophet of God? What makes him invalid compared to the other prophets like Moses, Noah, Abraham, Jesus, etc? I'm not even a Muslim, I'm just wondering.

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Not all Christians are perfect; Jesus was.
Not all Muslims are terrorists; Muhammad was.

The Quran contradicts itself. First it says you can only have sex with your wife, then it says you can have sex with your slave woman who you're not married to. It's pretty obvious Muhammad was just a warlord who wanted to do whatever he wanted (like having sex with his slave women) rather than being a prophet of god.

Because Jesus said if someone comes to you as an angel of light, ignore him because its satan

btw, he said this 700+ years before muhammed

>By their fruits you will know them. Do you gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?

Mohammed, being a murderous, rapist pedophile warlord, stands in a very stark contrast to the example given by our Lord Jesus Christ.

>deny Jesus is God
>deny Jesus died for our sins
>deny the Trinity
>pedo
>went to war against christians

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!

I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes and proclaims a Jesus other than the One we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit than the One you received, or a different gospel than the one you accepted, you put up with it way too easily.

This and it fits muhammad and "gabriel" perfectly (satan masquerades as an angel of light) the warning is galatians 1 btw. which also specifically mentions ARABIA right after warning about a false gospel preached by a man or an angel that would pervert the gospel of christ.

There are many other massive alarm bells about islam but that's certainly a biggie.

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Also consider this article.

Btw. for the people unaware the pic above is depiction of Ali a shia icon, not of muhammad, he's not allowed to be depicted.

Prophets of an imaginary sky wizard. Sure, he can be one of them, why not?

Mohammed engaged in some pretty bad baal worship. Also was a martyr and a thief who wed more than 1 woman and raped children.

Fuck that guy.

Get lost kid, adults are talking in here.

>It's pretty obvious Muhammad was just a warlord who wanted to do whatever he wanted (like having sex with his slave women) rather than being a prophet of god.

This. Mohammed used the guise of religion to fulfil his twisted desires, such as fucking pre-pubescent girls and murdering thousands so he can spread his twisted ideology, it's a shame it caught on and now nearly a quarter of the world worship the false god Allah and his sadistic prophet.

In John 8:44, it says that Satan is the father of lies, and in Quran 8:30, it says that Allah is the best of the deceivers, obvious connection between the two, in Revelation 19:20, it actually says mentions Satan and his "false prophet" being thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulphur, I wonder who that false prophet could be, it must be someone vile to the core in order to be Satan's right hand man, possibly the pedophile warlord Mohammed? Seems like a good match.

The vile Mohammed is the complete opposite to Jesus Christ, who healed the sick and restored sight to the blind, Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.

Amen

Jesus walked among men and spoke of a new covenant between God and man, that was solidified by his death at Golgotha then resurrection.
Mohammed pretty much ignored that whole new covenant between God and man part. His actions were remniscient or maybe the earlier Old Testament prophets but still more heinous and generally wrong. For example look at Abraham and the birth of his two sons.

Another thing that gets me, is that the entity that called itself gabriel did the following

>hurt muhammad commanding him to recite,

>muhammad became suicidal and thought what he encountered at first was demonic

>muhammad also tried to hurl himself off a cliff stopped by the entity both times telling him don't do it muhammad you're a prophet of god

>the entity is apparently weary of entering places where dogs are present, he didn't come to a meeting with muhammad and muhammad himself remarked this was the FIRST TIME the entity "gabriel" had not kept its appointment. And he later talks to the entity and it tells him it doesn't enter places where there are dogs (and pictures).

All in all the entity that says it is gabriel sounds more like what you would call an evil spirit than an angel.. it's the first angel with all the prophets that a) conceals itself in a cave b) hurts the ones they are speaking to c) are weary of presence of animals.

And yeah ofcoures the qur'an and sunnah itself that basically established an empire that went around butchering people who refused to submit to allah and muhammad.

Jesus warned of False Prophets

All in all muhammads encounter with gabriel is pretty clear after reading galatians 1 where it warns about a man and an angel perverting the gospel of christ, directly mentions arabia.. when you study muhammad and gabriels encounters it is quite striking.. and it is hard not to remember this: "Behold even satan masquerades as an angel of light"

"hey muhammad i'm "gabriel" recite this what i tell you" this is from where muslims got the qur'an..

I have some significant doubts that this was the actual gabriel what do you guys think? :))

>hurr durr look we love Jesus just like you
>we just don't recognize that his sacrifice is the salvation of mankind is all

Islam is a cancer.

Yes, and debating the number of angels that could dance on the head of a pin occupied many adults in a prior age. Carry on, old man.

I don't think angels are what you think they are, but maybe sometime you will figure that out if you are honest about wanting to.

>not even a muslim
>lists noah among the prophets

dead giveaway.

I'll give you a little clue, in one instance in the bible an angel stands in the middle of the road with sword(weapon) drawn but the guy on the donkey can't see it.. the donkey senses it and refuses to go and eventually it uncloaks itself and gives him a message.

biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers 22:21-39

Another example an angel identifies himself with military rank (equivalent of captain) of the army of the lord of hosts.

"Now it came about when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, a man was standing opposite him with his sword drawn in his hand, and Joshua went to him and said to him, "Are you for us or for our adversaries?" 14He said, "No; rather I indeed come now as captain of the host of the LORD." And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and bowed down, and said to him, "What has my lord to say to his servant?"…"

Neat.

>why don't you believe Muhammad was a prophet of God?
Muhammad was a warlord who made up a religion and exploited people's spirituality to gain power and followers. He pretended to be a messenger of god to establish himself as a "prophet" and gain followers, and he wrote the Quran to give himself legitimacy with the people and it allowed him to replace the pagan gods of Arabia with the new Monotheistic religion of Islam. This power to unite Arabia by force, and later huge chunks of the Christian world.

There's nothing more to it.

>also, he didn't really die on the cross, that was someone else and he wasn't the son of God, the word made flesh but a normal man just like you and me and he was a muslim because you Christians are just idol worshippers, lol, but we totally respect the prophet Isa. Now bow your head when I cross you on the street and pay the jizya or I cut your head of kaffir.

i really dont understand why people just cant read it and see the pattern

what the fuck are you even thinking?

Literately the model L. Ron Hubbard followed.

This is Imam Ali (SAWA) in this picture.

Murder, Violence, Conquest, Pedophilia, probably goat fucking.

typicall of zio christians to say.

Pretty cool eh, check this one out.

Hebrews 13:2 "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares."

Also before the destruction of soddom and gomorrah some angels are sent to asses the situation and the people in soddom attack them and the angels blind them with light and escape, and then afterwards the order is given to destroy the city.

Which the destruction of it sounds like some kind of plasma/energy beam weapon.. like intense heat wave.. The lord tells lot run away and don't look back because he's going to destroy the place.. a woman turns and looks back and turns into a pillar of salt (solid ash).

So you can see how it's amusing to me that some smartass makes the joke "how many angels can you fit on the head of a pin" clearly the person has some misunderstandings about how angels might appear according to the bible.

not a christian, but

So how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, then? I'm still confused.

He recieved verses from satan. Do you think God's prohpet would get revelations from satan?

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Why are you faggot responding to this shill

And since she turns into basically solid ash it's basically an exotic type of weapon beyond our understanding (to put it mildly) since it has no shockwave.

Prophets in the Old Testament were:
From the 12 tribes of Israel
Hated by their own people
Chaste holy men
Gave prophesies that came to pass
Killed by their own people for speaking the word of God against them

One angel would probably have a hard time dancing on the head of a pin :)

Mo was a hack, played the Arabs like fiddle.
Smart guy though. He got himself tons of resources and the finest females in the region. On the other hand, he may fucked up the future of mankind irreversibly. Those god damn desert hallucinations....

Well said user

nice semi colon

Still thinks Muslims gets mad at some pixels showing on the screen.
>Mfw europe is getting outbred by Muslims
>kek

To everyone leveling the 'pedophile' charge against him: wasn't it normal in 7th century Arabia?

>why don't you believe Muhammad was a prophet of God?

Because he was a violent paedophile rapist warlord. Even Jewish Fire God wouldn't pick a piece of shit like that for Prophet-hood, everyone has their standards, except Satan.

hello cuck from swedistan.

When you understand the trinity of the structure of a godhead you have a better idea, angels can be very physical the 10.000 of them coming in the clouds you have to look at old testament where they were also in the clouds to realize what that might look like.

The holy spirit (eternal spirit) the heavenly father and the angelic warriors (that can manifest physically) and fly around in vehicles in the clouds.. and the son, the right hand of god that testify of the holy spirit and declares the trinity when he says basically "me (jesus) and the father (heavenly father) are one (through the holy spirit)" the declaration of the trinity, once you understand that you see it's all over the bible..

Thus you can see what denying the trinity does and why it says those who have the father have also the son, it's a direct connection an undivided chain. And if you deny the trinity you don't understand how these things fit together.. god is not only spirit, he is also heavenly father, he is also the son jesus christ. But they act together as one godhead undivided/connected.

Majority doesn't make it right. If everyone cut off their nuts you'd still be a dumb nut cutter for doing so

He denied Jesus is God.
He denied Jesus was crucified.
He denied Jesus died on a cross.
He denied Jesus rose from the dead.
His denials were based on his conversations with satan.

The son declared the trinity, the trinity explains the order of the universe and the angels and their connection to the holy spirit. This is what saul realized who was a monotheistic jew (the trinity of the godhead was not yet revealed) setting out to kill christians before he had an encounter with an angel of the lord that explained it to him.. and then became paul the apostle.

Muslims are too weak to even keep Jews off of a tiny piece of their land. If Muslims ever try to rise up against Europe they'll just be genocided.

Yes, you are very confused.

said what i said but betterer.

They all have one unique thing to them that the other members of the Trinity do not; blasphemy against the Father and Son is forgivable; blasphemy against the Spirit is not. Only the Father knows when the full number is reached, the New Jerusalem ready, and the Rapture date. And the Son gave Himself a new name that nobody knows, not even the Father.

It's going to take an eternity to understand our Lord.

So basically you cannot understand the full scope of what the bible teaches untill you understand what the trinity and triune godhead means..

Till then you will be bewildered going.. well god is a spirit that no man has seen, but the angels are flying around in the clouds commanded by the lord of hosts, not much spirit about that, and now there's a guy also that says he's son of god and says he's also god.. doesn't make sense..

Yes it does when you understand the trinity and how they connect as an undivided chain it makes perfect sense.

He came as the ark of the new covenant with all man not only the hebrews and to prepare for the kingdom of heaven to be ushered in on earth when he comes back again. And after his ressurection he was taken up in the clouds.. Redeeming mankind and showing that they have conquered death.. because as the bible teaches the fear of death is of the devil..

He takes the trinity understanding away and places himself as god (allah) and denies that the holy spirit and the heavenly father exists.. which the son declared.

So then as a result then you are fear of death.. Which allah uses as a "motivation" shall we say to keep his followers in line.. so they live by the sword (shariah law and jihad).

You expect someone who is the holy messenger from God to not behave like the rest of the peasants. Look at Jesus, his ideas were way ahead of his time, loving your enemies, treating everyone with respect regardless of social class, preaching peace all this during a time when going into an enemy town and raping all the women and killing all the children was acceptable, yet you did not see Jesus doing that kind of shit and justifying it with "well everyone at that time did it lol" Messengers/Prophets of God tend to be held to a much higher standard

Because Muhammad's actions were not that of a prophet.

There's only one person in the Bible who got depressed and tried to kill himself, and that was Judas after he got possessed by Satan.

Muhammad throwing himself off of a cliff is clear evidence the guy had demons

Of all the bullshit Muhammed did, his depression is what you use against him? Plenty of people went trough depressions in the bible, the most notable one, was King David who went trough hell and the book of psalms is full of verses of him calling for Death to take him.

all the arab country leaders are of jewish lineage. Lebanon, Iraq, Syria and Iran has no jewish leaders or ascendants of the jewish tribes such as saudi arabia. The countrys with majority sunnis has leaders with jewish ascendency. And Muslims are still waiting for a fully fledged jihad war against the oppressors. The time is nearing. You can even feel it tingling.

Thinking you're possessed, claiming Satan whispers in your ear, and trying to kill yourself is not just "depression"

thats the stories of the liar aisha (LA). That bitch is the reason these lies and doubts where cast upon prophet Muhammad (SAWA).

Right, jesus did many many things but what did he say he came to do.. to undo the works of the devil.. redeeming the fallen race of man what does the devil do.. caused the fall of man and also instill fear of death.. by robbing people of the truth.. and installing himself as god denying the understanding of the holy spirit and the heavenly father..

So jesus acts as a beacon back to the truth, follow him and you will have eternal life.. And those who will follow satan still when the judgement occurs as the kingdom of heaven will be established on earth, will go with him down into the pit.

"i am the light and the way and the truth" begins to make a lot more sense.

Are you Shia?

But what if a priest raped me

Doesn't that mean Jesus was a rapist too since they try to be Jesus

> cuckstains stumped

If Christians were to accept Islam, they'd have to denounce their belief that Jesus is God, himself; most of them aren't willing to do that.

Because there is no god, meaning muhammad either never existed or, more likely, a lying dickhead that tricked some retards into believing him to do his bidding.

If you look at the teachings of jesus, they are the inverse of what muhammad and allah teaches..

"be kind to your enemies"
"destroy the filthy kuffar"
etc.

Doesn't remove self defense christianity is not a pacifistic religion, but it's not an offensive religion..

but you can see.. jesus preempted the teaching to come (warned about in galatians 1 where arabia is mentioned aswell, man and angel is mentioned, false prophet is mentioned, and, perversion of gospel of christ is mentioned..) because he knew it was to come the devil was going to establish his religion to try to claim earth again.. and he preempted it before it was even in action.. By presenting the inverse of what it taught..

If you take the things jesus taught, and invert them and compare it to islamic law.. you end up with islamic teachings, this is not a coincidence.

DAILY REMINDER:: The Prophet of Islam was a pedophile and, in all likelihood, DEMONICALLY POSSESSED->->->->->
Muhammad's experience in the cave - his call to "prophethood":

CONT'D

by doing this jesus made it very difficult for "allah".. because he would have to deny jesus and the other prophets warnings in order to establish his doctrine and he had to do it AFTER it was warned about..

This is why allah and muhammad had to deny jesus's teachings as corrupt or it would be too clear who "allah" really is.. So jesus is not son of god in islam, jesus is just a prophet.. holy spirit doesn't exist (they claim it's angel gabriel, heresy that's denial of the afterlife and the holy spirit, muhammad gives the counterfeit jannah that is filled with sexual perversions diametrically opposed to the kingdom of heaven of the bible), heavenly father doesn't exist.. and muhammad is final prophet, and jesus teachings are false and these things, which fit perfectly with the warnings of what the "anti christian" doctrine would do.

Quoting from the Hadith of Bukhari, 9.111:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Apostle was in the form of good righteous (true) dreams in his sleep. He never had a dream but that it came true like bright day light. He used to go in seclusion (the cave of) Hira where he used to worship(Allah Alone) continuously for many (days) nights. He used to take with him the journey food for that (stay) and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food like-wise again for another period to stay, till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him in it and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read." (The Prophet added), "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and again asked me to read, and I replied, "I do not know how to read," whereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it anymore. He then released me and asked me again to read, but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or, what shall I read?)." Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me and then released me and said, "Read: In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists). Has created man from a clot. Read and Your Lord is Most Generous...up to..... ..that which he knew not." (96.15)

CONT'D

>implying the jews didn't create both religions and intentionally made one diametrically opposed to the other so they would fight forever, creating conflict, which they then benefit of like the schemers they are

Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration, his neck muscles twitching with terror till he entered upon Khadija and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and then he said, "O Khadija, what is wrong with me?" Then he told her everything that had happened and said, 'I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija said, 'Never! But have the glad tidings, for by Allah, Allah will never disgrace you as you keep good relations with your Kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guest generously and assist the deserving, calamity-afflicted ones."
... But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while and the Prophet became so sad as we have heard that he intended several times to throw himself from the tops of high mountains and every time he went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down, Gabriel would appear before him and say, "O Muhammad! You are indeed Allah's Apostle in truth" whereupon his heart would become quiet and he would calm down and would return home. And whenever the period of the coming of the inspiration used to become long, he would do as before, but when he used to reach the top of a mountain, Gabriel would appear before him and say to him what he had said before. (Ibn 'Abbas said regarding the meaning of: 'He it is that Cleaves the daybreak (from the darkness)' (6.96) that Al-Asbah means the light of the sun during the day and the light of the moon at night).

CONT'D

There are a number of slight variations to this story, related by different people, describing Muhammad's visitation by a spirit identifying himself as the angel Gabriel. These stories do not always agree with each other in perfect detail, but on the whole a composite picture can be drawn of Muhammad's initial experience with the spirit and his subsequent reactions.
Here are additional details from Guillaume's "The Life of Muhammad", page 106.
So I [Muhammad] read it, and he [Gabriel] departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was though these words were written on my heart. (Tabari: Now none of God's creatures was more hateful to me than an (ecstatic) poet or a man possessed: I could not even look at them. I thought, Woe is me poet or possessed - Never shall Quraysh say this of me! I will go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and gain rest. So I went forth to do so and then) when I was midway on the mountain, I heard a voice from heaven saying "O Muhammad! thou are the apostle of God and I am Gabriel."
The visitations from the spirit continued. Then they stopped for a time believed to have been 6 months to 3 years. When this happened, Tabari, volume 6 page 76, records:
"The inspiration ceased to come to the messenger of God for a while, and he was deeply grieved. He began to go to the tops of mountain crags, in order to fling himself from them; but every time he reached the summit of a mountain, Gabriel appeared to him and said to him, "You are the Prophet of God." Thereupon his anxiety would subside and he would come back to himself. [4]
Also, from Tabari Vol. 9, page 167, note 1151 says:
"The pre-Islamic Arabs believed in the demon of poetry, and they thought that a great poet was directly inspired by demons...."
This explains why Muhammad thought he was demon possessed, or influenced by demons; the Quran in many places reads like poetry.

CONT'D

Yeah, because prophets are supposed to go along with what's "normal" and fuck little kids. How divine.

Then they did a piss poor job because historically Christians and Muslims have been against Jews way more than they have been against each other

And ofcourse jesus wasn't crucified nor did he defeat death according to islam, but someone else took his place..

so now muslims are scared of death and are presented by allah with life by the sword (shariah law and jihad).

And what does allah give them.. if they kill a non muslim in jihad they go to jannah filled with sexual perversions for the holy warriors of islam..

A martyr in islam is a killer of non muslims, a martyr in christianity is one who dies simply for saying jesus christ is lord.. and refusing to say this is not the case.

To make it even more disturbing in surat al jinn in the noble qur'an demons say they can't enter heaven because it's being guarded by strong guards, pledge allegiance to allah and say that jesus is not son of god.. Directly in the qur'an this is not even hadiths, this is qur'an..

Allah also has one of his 99 titles is al-mumit (the destroyer/bringer of death) who is that in the bible, satan.. revelations 9:11

Allah is also worshipped aswell with a pentagram.. the holy pentagram in islam called the Panjetan or Holy Pentagram, also known as Ahl Al-Bait or People of the House

Try look this picture, up and tell me islam is not about pentagrams? :D

And also a pretty short comparison between allah and the biblical god. youtube.com/watch?v=fopLhXVRxSA

Why do people think this reveals anything significant

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In "Muhammad at Mecca", page 40, 41, there are also references that document Muhammad's suicidal thoughts. Watt quotes from az-Zuhri's material.
"He (Muhammad) said, I had been meditating throwing myself from a mountain crag, but while I was so meditating, he appeared to me and said, "O Muhammad, I am Gabriel, and thou are the Messenger of God."....
Az-Zuhri said: "There was a gap for a time in the revelation to the Messenger of God and he was very sorrowful. He started going early to the tops of the mountains to throw himself down from them. But whenever he reached the summit of a mountain, Gabriel would appear to him and say, "Thou are the Prophet of God."
However you view this event, it is undeniable that something extraordinary happened to Muhammad in the cave, and he was deeply distressed by it.

JESUS CHRIST IS REAL,

MOHAMMED WAS A MANIFEST HERETIC;

BEWARE THE CULT OF THE ISHMAELITES

DON'T BELIEVE THE JEWISH MEMES OF ATHEISM, "ALL RELIGIONS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME" THAT IS WILLFUL IGNORANCE; EDUCATE YOURSELF;

ITS LITERALLY THEIR STATED DOGMA FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

BEWARE JEWISH LIES AS WELL

He didn't perform miracles and he never considered himself a prophet, only his followers did.

Read the quran it is full of bullshit , i had the thought also one time what if islam is right and it is evil because satan

No this is because the true god wants to save as many as possible, even the muslims if they repent and turn to jesus.. so the christians are told to not hurt them unless they really try to cut your head off you know.. so that they might be converted by love and the truth of jesus christ..

But ofcourse there's also doctrine to defend yourself against being invaded and these things.. but be wise like the serpent (understand islam and sharia law) and harmless like doves.. try to show them with love that what they are following is not correct, but not force them to be christians and these things, that's what muslims do they have decree.. sharia law to the whole world, they are the subjugators because allah wants to snuff out the doctrine of christ..

> what makes you think he wasn't a prophet

Oh this will be fun.

1. He was a murderer
2. He was a theif
3. He was a rapist
4. He ordered the murder of non- believers which included a 12 year old girl.

If that is a prophet then I must be Santa Claus

This is Imam Ali, not Mohammed.

>mfw born to kinda muslim family
>based mom decide not to circumcise me
>redpill my family later on islam, now they are skeptical as fuck about it

thanks based mom

No wonder you never produce. Your religion and population is going extinct.
>Mfw christians are the madest people I have ever met
>Mfw I aint even mad and actually seeing life as a test and christians with theyre 10.000th times reformed religion is going kill

So is Mohammed the Anti-Christ and the timing of Revelations just very misunderstood (taking 7 centuries instead of 7 days or whatever)?

king david was never a prophet of the lord , he was a king and did a lot of sinning

I'm not a Christian.

I just love dead muslims.

Especially dead muslim kids.

rad as fuck

Did he fuck kids?

Implicit Argumentam ad populam and strawman. Not an argument

Prophets are only to be born under the bloodline of ISAAC. Mohammad is of the bloodline of ISHMAEL, therefore a false prophet.

The edge is sharp. Dont cut yourself.

trips checkum use the pictures

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I tip you my fedora sir

But the leaf is right. Issac was the favored son of Abraham and all prophets come from him. Ishmael was just kinda there really until Abraham to fuck off.

>Abraham told Hagar to fuck off
fixed