America won the Vietnam war, just look at that k/d ratio!

>America won the Vietnam war, just look at that k/d ratio!

>Whattaya mean citizens don't count? Are you a fucking commie?

Who cares? We just tried to prevent Vietnam from becoming a shithole by commies so it's their loss

we didnt win but we didn't lose either. we just left everything to the remaining commies that we didn't kill.

>we wuz da good goys i mean guys

One time I had a retard counting both south and north Vietnamese deaths as the "enemy death count"

k dead Americans
>>billions spent
>>didn’t lose anything

Ok

the goal of the war (preventing the spread of communism in SEA) was achieved so it's not a loss

i mean we lost a few battles and suffered some casualties but there were no winners in that war.

The leftover cluster bombs and agent orange birth defects means our winning streak just keeps on going!

The north Vietnamese unified their country under a communist regime while all occupiers and invaders were kicked out. I’m pretty sure they won and you guys lost.

Ho was a nationalist first, communist second

South Vietnam agreed to hold a vote for unification but didn't do it, because they knew the country would vote in favor of unification

The VC was bad, but not any worse than the Americans, in many ways better except for their propping up of the Khmer Rouge

Communism is bad, but the nationalist sentiment is what saved Vietnam from going full retard after the war

except North Vietnam of course

Communism spread to the rest of Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia as a result of the war.

Why didn't Ho just go full NatSoc instead of becoming a commie.

ah that, yeah. but other than that it is a draw.

>the goal of the war (preventing the spread of communism in SEA) was achieved so it's not a loss
kek

Personal philosophy and the East Asian communist movement.

Ask Paris, they seemed to be turning anyone nationalist into communist with their colleges

>the goal of the war
the goal of the war was to stop the communist North Vietnam from taking over South Vietnam, which they did after US forces left

>implying it isn't
All the dead goyim are slain enemies.

>america wanted to win the vietnam war

> 1812 was the British burning down our capital not the Canadians
Why is the USA so insecure?

We aren't, the unit that sacked Washington was from the Peninsular War iirc
That is, Bongs, not Canucks

It was a "response" to the US burning proto-Toronto to the ground (In reality it was banter)
Shame it was rebuilt

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to be fair, they were probably viet cong

I thought it was 58000

What

wh*ties are soulless animals

>hahahahaha, look at america, losing to rice farmers! and no, k/d ratio is not an argument!
>no, finland did NOT lose the winter war! sure, they may have been forced to give up all the territory that was demanded of them in the first place, but man oh man just look at that k/d ratio!

finland won in the sense that they just had to give up a couple of regions and not the whole country

But Fin;and did lose the winter war. It's just still pathetic of Russia to have had such a bad k/d. The point is that when countries like America or Russia fight small fries like Vietnam or Finland, the vastly more powerful ones should be winning AND having superior k/d ratios.

>propping khmer rogue
The vietnamese literally stopped khmer rogue. The Americans covertly approached them for support as they were openly antagonistic to the soviets, Chinese and vietnamese.

When people brag about America losing the Vietnam War, they don't mean in the political sense, they mean in a military one. But the Americans didn't lose militarily.

>We just tried to prevent Vietnam from becoming a shithole
>murrifats really believe that

To make it even worse, Vietnam is on the other side of the world of America. Finland is just north of the economic and military heart of the Soviet Union.

DID YOU SAY
VIETNAM???

Vietnam is literally the one to take down the Khmer Rogue while the US supported them underhandedly to spite Vietnam and the Soviet Union.

Finland became a russian proxy in the cold war, and got fucked twice, while vietnam never ceded territory to an american proxy

What's Saigon called these days?

ho chi minh