Why are Nova's sales so shit compared to Miles & Kamala?

Sales numbers from last month
>Spider-Man #6 52,731
>Ms. Marvel #9 28,313
>Nova #9 16,726

GO DIE SAM NOBODY WANTS YOU

He's not brown or quirky enough. Also, brand recognition.

Also, he's Sam.

Jesus, was he always such a manlet?

Nova #9

What the fuck is this? Another reboot? I remember reading 20 or 30 so issues of this new Nova.

Seriously, does anyone even follow marvel anymore? Their numbering is fucked up. Every year there are MULTIPLE reboots. All the books are fucked up.

Say what you want but DC did what, 2 reboots in 5+ years? And all the books did it too so it's not hard to follow them. Now marvel each book gets a relaunch. At different times. And then a major relaunch. But then we can't have those 5 issue series get renumbered again can't we? So we renumber some of those, only to renumber them later and then the cycle goes on and on and on and on and i'm writing like Bendis because this post to show that marvel comics are shit

please don't bully Sam

He isnt the latino that diversity groups support.

fuck off I want him to be happy!

They aren't really good at marketing without drumming up a controversy.
Also, his namesake isn't nearly as popular.

>He was an unlikeable cunt in the TV show, so no sales boost from that
>Nova's never really sold well anyway
>Not Muh Nova
>Muh Loeb's Dead Son
>Current run is kind of shit
>A lot of people just don't like Sam (even if they're wrong about it)
tl;dr: not a great selling character in the first place that lost a lot of its following when the legacy came in.
That said, #9 deserved WAY better sales than it got. The Captain was GOAT.
At least in this case it's an actual new run with a new team and plot instead of just a renumbering.

I just want manlet fags to fuck off and die already. Depending on the power set height and weight can have no bearing at all on how powerful a character is.

>>Nova #9 16,726
Where is that at? Comichron is still at June.

I just thought it was weird, he never seemed that small in the few appearances of his that I've read.

There is a thread with july sales

people will start buying his book when he starts fucking Viv

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Isn't that cancellation numbers?

It depends. Usually, yes though.

yes that's why he and rich are going to share the next volume

>Legacy that was never amazingly popular to begin with
This would be enough, but then you add
>Fanfiction tier origin story
>boring book except for the Beta Ray Bill and Kluh parts
>"MUH DAD"
>dumb looking helmet
>"MUH DAD" arc is finally over
>undone in the next volume
>new volume shits all over the previous one and pretends it pretty much didn't happen

He's a fucking white male

The rest of what you said is a matter of opinion, but
>dumb looking helmet
Objectively wrong.
He's a spic, user.

Sam's helmet looks incredibly dumb from the front, it'd be alright if it didn't have little "fin" things or whatever the fuck they're supposed to be.

But Sam deserves it.

he's not the right kind of ethnic.

Yeah, book is ending with issue 11 then relaunching as a buddy cop book with Rich and Sam.

He's destined to suffer, user. There is nothing you can do for him.

Not a popular brand, doesn’t get any SJW because no one cares about Latinos as minorities and he is white as fuck, he wasn't created by Bendis or G Willlow or whatever her name is, he isn't being marketed like crazy by Marvel like the other two are.

However Sam is more likeable.

he's fucked up in so many parts

SJWs dont like him because hetero white(ish) male
Novafags dont like him because he isnt Dick Rider
Kamala is adorable to everyone, both Carolcorps and people who hate her
Miles is the token black guy in the whitest franchise Marvel has (Spiderman).

do people honestly care about the number on the issue? newfag here but that seems like really autistic, to me.

That reminds me, we started out the current volume selling us on that Sam and his dad were gonna be a team only to reveal that was never his dad. How do we know they won't bait and switch Richard Rider?

It looks great, what the fuck are you talking about?
It's better than Rich's

Because unlike Sam's dad, people actually care about Dickrider enough for it to, ideally, push sales up into non-cancellation territory.

What percentage of people would know that by looking at him?

He's like 14, so yes?

Sam needs to fuck off to space and have space cop adventures with other space cops. Give him an identity beyond junior avenger the 3rd wheel edition Marvel editorial has him on now. He'll never be as popular as a Spider-Man universe character and Kamala is a pretty Muslim girl, a rarity in American comics.

Oh, and give Sam some color. Play up the Hispanic portion more. He just looks like a generic white manlet. Do a reverse Sunspot on this little fag.

>Do a reverse Sunspot on this little fag.
Can we do a reverse Sunspot on Sunspot, too?

It looks like shit and your opinions are shit.

man Jean really is a cunt isn't she?

I'd rather have the fins than the dumb-looking flat-sided bullet, mate. If there was even a little curvature or shape to Rich's helmet I might not think Sam's was better.

He's a child.

>Can we do a reverse Sunspot on Sunspot, too?
Slightly tanned frat bro Sunspot not to your liking?

t. manlet

who even cares about comics books anymore

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It's sad because he is the only one I like out of the three.

>Oh, and give Sam some color. Play up the Hispanic portion more
Would this really help him?

>Sam needs to fuck off to space and have space cop adventures with other space cops.

This so much sadly.

>Nova

Thats why

you forgot the arbitrary decimal point one issues.

It'd give them a scapegoat for his lack of sales.

I know some people are gonna take this as inflammatory, but Nova never sold this bad before Sam came along.

Wouldn't hurt. But if it does hurt:
>It'd give them a scapegoat for his lack of sales.

Basically, Marvel is pushing the young colored bucks. Sam is the odd man out on the diversiteam they got going on there despite him having Hispanic lineage with an absentee white father. Scrawny beta white male types are out of style. Give him some color and get him off of earth. No one is doing shit in space atm, so it would net Marvel good free publicity to put a kid of color out there having adventures. Anyways, since Richard is coming back, we already got the "aww shucks I"m just a white kid from a simple suburban life" role filled up. Shit, whenever Star Lord gets freed from Bendis and gets back to space, we'll have double fillings of that. Playing up the Hispanic part of Sam could help keep him afloat.

Not that any of this matters. I doubt Sam has a future.

While true, to look at the situations without context would be extremely foolish. They're two very different characters in different sales environments with different book leadups/content so it's silly to compare them by brass tacks.

He's white.

Sam feels like he's trying to recapture Richard's character to a more kid friendly degree. The guy was an underachiever at everything he did and only lived to be a super hero.
Also, Sam was around in a time where cosmic Marvel was WAY more popular than the DnA era. Now, nobody gives a shit about anything but GotG. He really doesn't have a good excuse for his bad sales.

If they gave Sam a cute boyfriend, his series would be infinitely more popular. Come on Bendis you know you want to.

I think Bendis only likes Sam because he hates Richard.
I doubt Bendis is gonna write the next Nova volume.

I've started ironically unironically shipping Sam/Miles. It's so bad it's good.

How old is Sam supposed to be?

They both seem too short when stood next to Jean, who is only a year older than Miles.

like 15

That's unfortunate. When I was 15 I don't recall there being 16 year old girls a whole head taller than me.

Loeb would have Bendis killed in his sleep if he tried that

Well, he's a traditionally mediocre-to-bad seller who lost a lot of fans between Loeb haters and Richfags. It's not that surprising.

I seriously don't think Loeb even knows what's going with Sam anymore.
Plus, Bendis has a lot more pull than Loeb.
Tbh, that insane motherfucker should be glad if they make him gay instead of killing him off, which where Sam is definitely headed right now

Popular things are rarely ever good. Nova is good. Miles and Kamala are shitty and boring.

I forced myself through reading Vol 5 and wholeheartedly disagree.
He landed himself here and deserves the state he's in.

Sam is just as bad as Miles, and I can't really say anything about Kamala since I've never read her books.

Woah there user. I like Sam too, but Kamala is great.

>Tbh, that insane motherfucker should be glad if they make him gay instead of killing him off, which where Sam is definitely headed right now

Yeah, Sam right now seems like future fodder bait for whatever event Marvel wants to add a body to in the near future. He's easily the most dispensable of the up-and-comers who have their own book, getting their own book, or who have some semblance of a fandom for whatever reason.

>Sam is a good character and the others aren't

This is what Samfags have to delude themselves into thinking. Pitiful. He's just as shit if not more so. Just because he's an underdog doesn't mean he's good. It just means his shittiness isn't glossed over as much as the others.

Samfags are just mad he's left out of the shipping

Its actually funny Sam isn't getting shipped with Kamala more since he interacts with her more than Miles in their team book

Man, I don't even want SamxKamala. That's a garbage ship. It's all about the SamxViv

They ones that want him shipped with Kamala only want it so he can leech off of her popularity. It's kind of sad really.

That's the best outcome, the Richfags can now start supporting and shut their mouths if it doesn't do as good, plus you get Sam and Rich being bros.

I just hope the writer for that comic is good and wants to write actual cosmic stories.

Kamala isn't popular

He looks white and doesn't know Spanish, might as well be white.

Sam/Viv is basically canon at this point. I'm certain they'll hold hands next issue of Vision

Please, we both know that if the book fails they'll just blame it all on Sam.

It matters when you want to go back and read an old Nova issue but there are like 20 #9s and Marvel doesn’t bother with marking volumes.

Sam's track record makes him the perfect scapegoat. Nothings he's been has worked out.
I'm just really hoping they put a good writer on it

>Also, Sam was around in a time where cosmic Marvel was WAY more popular than the DnA era.
No.

Do you really think DnA era comes anywhere close to movie era popularity?

Do you really think that there's any sort of popularity in modern cosmic aside from GotG properties?

And by that, I mean that cosmic isn't popular right now. The Guardians are.
You could have a RichNova book running parallel to the Bendis Guardians, and I'm sure it does only slightly better than Sam's book.

Right now is not 2 years ago.
Right now, everything aside for the main GotG book is selling like shit, but when the movie came out, those guys were selling like crazy.
Plus, I don't think Richard would sink to Sam's level. Marvel would cancel him long before he ever got that bad.

So Jean made him gay right?

so does miles

What villains are you guys hoping to show up when Richard's back?
I'd like to see
>Round 2 with Annihilus
>Thanos
>Shuma-Gorath
>Garthaan Sall
I feel like there's some potential very interesting history with Richard between Thanos and Shuma. Plus, I'd like to know what the fuck was going with Garthaan.

>but when the movie came out, those guys were selling like crazy.
No they weren't.
There was GotG, Legendary Star-Lord, Rocket Raccoon, Nova, and Cyclops. The mainline GotG book was the only one selling like crazy. Everything else was mediocre+.

because he is white

>all that retreading
How about giving Rich some new shit to do that doesn't involve reliving his DnA adventures?

They're all immensely better than the villains Sam dealt with
>Furry
>Kalindra
>Kluh
Plus, Rich didn't start dealing with Thanos and Shuma until the end of Thanos Imperative.

Straw Man, the post.
How embarrassing.

>tfw its the best book of the three
>tfw it'll be cancelled by the end of the year

Go ahead and tell me how much you liked them.

>not wanting the expy of your son getting together with a cute boy, kissing and holding hands
>not wanting to see the potential fan art and R34 of the the two
Porn would be drawn in honor of Loeb Jr.

Miles is riding off Peter's name
Kamala is simply doing well for herself
No one cares about cosmic Marvel

What the fuck are you even talking about? Why are you even bringing up Sam's shitty villains? Are you that retarded?

>Nova #9 16,726
Last I checked I thought they were higher than that, can someone confirm