>One night, a guest at the Iceberg Lounge was caught cheating at poker. The Penguin tortured this man in full view of everyone. A friend of the man grabbed a beer bottle, smashed it on a table, and attacked, driving the bottle had into the Penguin's face.
>As the Penguin screamed, the attacker and his friend were dragged away to a private torture room. Cobblepot was examined by the finest doctors in Gotham City but the prognosis was always the same; removing the bottle could be fatal.
I kinda hate modern, English, not fat, not pointy nosed Penguin
Like he could literally be a different character at this point. But I guess that's what happens when you keep trying to riff on the same premise for 50+ years.
Angel Thompson
Why isn't this comic canon?
Nolan Perez
I know this has always been something that splits people, but I really like the imagery of a broken bottle as a monocle. Like it's the perfect metaphor for someone who wants to be high class, but isn't. Maybe it's not right for the Penguin, but I dig it.
Ethan Anderson
Why couldn't it just be a monocle? A broken beer bottle is just stupid and needlessly edgy.
Brayden Ross
Wait, they grabbed THAT end of the bottle?
Justin Richardson
Yeah, especially since it reads like a marketing director just wrote "Doctor Who + Loki" on a white board.
Hudson Brown
I wonder who those brave men were.
Nathan Gonzalez
>wrong end of the bottle
They just wanted to make his monocle a beer bottle so bad they didn't give a shit about what made sense or not
James Martin
We all know The Penguin wears a monocle, but why? Monocles look silly, why not wear glasses or contacts. We know a lot about The Joker's face, and how he got it back, but we know nothing about The Penguin's Monocle. This gives a reason as to why a man would even wear outdated eye-wear, it is very silly but so is pretending to be a penguin.
Evan Myers
Oi m8 i grew up in ov da most wealthy paaahrful elite families in Gotham 'istory m80
wuts wrong wiv da way i talk? It's ow I wuz learning me english in muh fuddy duddy Gotham prep school, innit?
Luis James
And these games never got the shit they deserved for the laughably grimdark shit they pulled.
Sebastian Cook
Constantine stop making fun of the ugly midget.
Julian Hall
Again Penguin is supposed to be a parody of high class society. The monocle is just a cosmetic thing thats carried over from numerous incarnations. But I have seen Penguin in regular glasses too.
Jack Roberts
>laughably grimdark >laughably Emphasis right there. Nygma's joke about the baby was funny precisely because of how edgy it was.
Jason Brooks
>It's a Sup Forums shits on my favorite game series thread again
Go ahead. Tell me i have shit taste.
Tyler Evans
Hasn't English organized crime historically been a lot more tracksuit and a lot less monocles and tailored suits?
It's like they wanted to make him into an Italian stereotype but then decided against it because that's what all of the named non-supervillain criminals in Gotham are
Ayden Perez
That's really stupid.
Lincoln Jenkins
those games are pretty good
except Origins, which traded in good game design for QTEs and a slightly more sensible story
At least when Knight decided to bolt on a bunch of Burnout and Battlezone shit they didn't ruin the existing stealth and fighting fun
Adam Peterson
Penguin didn't go to a Gotham prep school in the Arkhamverse. He went to a boarding school in England and abandoned it to learn crime on the streets.
Henry James
Origins had the best story out of them and I forgive every flaw it has because of it.
Grayson Myers
Arkham Penguin is cool. I like that the monocle really only comes up in the Gotham city stories, rather than the actual game.
Oliver Campbell
Guys youre really overthinking this >Penguin desperately wants to prove hes high class so he dresses in expensive suits >Rocksteady decides against the monocle because of how outdated it is >Choose to make it a result from a bar fight to reflect Penguins criminal/low brow activities that are often hidden from the public Its still silly but I do like the accent
Ethan Gonzalez
Why didnt they cut the bottom of the bottle? That way he could at least see properly.
Carter Rogers
glass would get in his eye I guess.
Brody Morgan
That is true of all organized crime, not just italians. Most people are tracksuit-wearing losers who aren't good for anything except beating people up. The higher ups who delude themselves into thinking they're businessmen wear suits. The best example is probably the yakuza. On the low ranks they're incredibly trashy street gangs, the higher ups are borderline corporate
Dominic Adams
Well its glass, so perhaps altering it or fucking with it in any way would result in the bottle shattering and leading to further complications. Although now Penguin is fucked if he ever gets punched in the face
Jonathan Powell
>borderline They are corporate at this point, most don't even bother hiding it.
Wyatt Hughes
>going for the face and not his blubbery neck Rookie mistake.
Blake Green
Which he has.
Multiple times.
You can guess by who.
Jack Roberts
They could have him lie down with his face facing the floor, then carefully break the glass
Gavin Lopez
Really wished they had Nolan North try out that penguin laugh more often.
He's in Knight, Origins and City and the only time he does it is when he's freezing the cop in Arkham City.
Sebastian Rogers
No one is shitting on your games user, but these games deserve to be called on for being a bit too dark, as in, it's actually pretty funny and not dark at all sometimes.
Nicholas Anderson
Seriously, who the fuck smashes the TOP of a bottle to use as a weapon? Shit makes no sense. At least have him trip after getting punched by Batman, landing face-first on a broken bottle standing up in the alley.
Wyatt Brown
Or they could fuck his ass until it pops out.
Jeremiah Martin
Except the bottle is embedded deep in his skull, so any cracks risk broken shards in his head.
Oliver Gray
The only one thats appeared in is the telltale Batman game tho Gotham Penguin has a pointed, birdy nose, waddles, is starting to fatten up and isnt english
Christian Sanchez
You know what else, nowadays, is something likely to be worn by a lower class pleb in a clumsy attempt to emulate high society? A regular monocle.
Thomas Edwards
This. The Joker thing was obvious as fuck(really, Black Mask is planting present-shaped bombs under the police department?), but it still managed to have a better story than all the ones after Asylum. Not to mention the voice-acting/script was better as well.
Arkham Knight had a shit story AND you couldn't really enjoy the other stuff when you had to use the tank for 60% of the game. Mad Max was more fun for that shit.
Thomas Parker
Gotham has never been a "modern" city though. Metropolis is modern, it's new and bright. Gotham is ancient, old money to the core.
Parker Sanchez
it's a nice touch you can see the embedded bottle in detective mode
it clearly is stuck in part of his brain. Maybe that's why he talks like that.
Grayson Hill
There you go chaps, no monocle
Luis Nguyen
Monocles are so dated that you don't exactly have to be "modern" for them to come across as a clumsy faux pas
Do any of the Gotham businessmen or old money we see in any of the modern materials still wear monocles?
Thomas Hill
Right?
What a dumb fucking idea.
Grayson James
Maybe the friend of the man was just that dumb.
Cooper Richardson
In Arkham Knight there are Thugs that say Penguin is putting on a fake accent.
Nathaniel Cook
Pfft. There's thugs who say they've seen an actual bat man flying around as well! They're bloody loonies!
Carson Gonzalez
>Do any of the Gotham businessmen or old money we see in any of the modern materials still wear monocles? No, but it's one of those things that's been grandfathered in for Penguin. In 1941 monocles weren't in style anymore, but it was still possible (though uncommon) to see the super upper-crust old money types wearing them. Monocles had become stereotypical by then but if you saw a rich guy wearing one you wouldn't think "what the fuck is with this guy."
For a more modern example, think of the mohawk. It's not really a common thing to see anymore even among punks, but a couple of decades ago it was common enough that it's become a visual shorthand for "punk." If you created a character now and wanted him to look punk, a mohawk would make the visual connection even if it's not something you see often anymore.
Carson Myers
That nigga should have died when Bruce beat the shit out of him and escaped. Touching his face probably hurts like fuck
Carter Gutierrez
You have shit taste.
Robert Rogers
That's two monocles jackass, that's twice as stupid!
Caleb Myers
>A friend of the man grabbed a beer bottle, smashed it on a table, and attacked, driving the bottle had into the Penguin's face.
So why is the bottom of the bottle stuck in his face?
Justin Jones
I think you mean twice as classy
Jose Ward
Well I'm just saying, it's kind of fortuitous. When the penguin first appeared with the monocle and the suits and everything, it came across as a criminal emulating high society. You could keep the regular monocle nowadays, and have it come across as a criminal trying to emulate high society, except being inept and clumsy at it. My original point was replying to the poster that said that the beer bottle served as a good symbol for someone incredibly low-class trying and failing to present themselves as high-class. A regular monocle comes off that way now, too. If you see someone with a monocle, your first thought isn't "Oh, they must be rich" it's "Oh, it's a joke or a gag", and then if they act serious about it, you think "Who is this guy trying to scam?"
Thomas Campbell
The bottle was the same at both ends. It's a fancy thing, you wouldn't understand.
Isaiah Cook
I like how he s voiced by Nolan north
Joseph Nelson
Kek
Hunter Cruz
Comicbooks are stupid, and you are stupid for even giving this shit a second glance.
Luis Robinson
Theyre glasses......
Grayson Cox
...
Kevin Morales
Made from monocles
Jaxon Martinez
Is this game as disappointing as anons make it out to be?
I'm playing this series now and I really liked the first two outside of some of the corny edgelord shit that's being brought up in this thread.
Ayden Sanchez
The only real reason that I can think of for why people give it a lot of shit is because of the kinda botched PC port, but that got fixed, so it's all good
Jose Martin
you what
Michael Campbell
it's disappointing because they advertised the game as about batman vs a bunch of assassins hired by black mask, but it's just another batman vs the joker snorefest.
Same with Arkham Knight. Too much Joker shit
John Brooks
That's so edgey it's comedic.
Actually I think it's just going overboard with that 'ghetto' aesthetic in the Arkham games.
Carter Price
But the gameplay is fine?
Christian Anderson
The gameplay's great
Luke Torres
>>Choose to make it a result from a bar fight to reflect Penguins criminal/low brow activities that are often hidden from the public But it was a "bar fight" in full view of everyone in a casino that he owns. It doesn't tell us anything about the character we didn't already know, namely that he's a vicious bastard who owns & operates a casino. Also, kinda hard to hide something JAMMED INTO YOUR FUCKING EYESOCKET from the public.
Bentley Torres
I like how there is no mention of the thugs actually helping Penguin. Imagine him rolling on the ground while the thugs beat up the other guy.
Good job guys, not like the boss needs help there.
Ethan Edwards
There was an incredibly contrived and stupid explanation about him being sent to school in England and him running away and joining Cockney gangs.
It was a pretty obvious case of someone wanting their "spin" on the Penguin to be a Guy Ritchie ripoff but not wanting to sacrifice the Cobblepot / Wayne feud because that's the only thing interesting about modern Penguin so they just did both because no one will notice because vidya games are for children and manchildren.
Still disappointed in Dini for being involved with this trash desu
William Gomez
The gameplay is more varied than the previous installations, without forcing you to enter a tank every other minute. You can't ask for more, really.
Kevin Collins
>forcing you to enter a tank every other minute
???
Landon James
user is still bitter over Knight. and so am I
Josiah Garcia
It's not. They Fucking ruined it in origins with one simple fuck up. Your counters no longer cancel animations, meaning if you start to throw a punch, then some goon decides to hit you from behind, you can't do shit about It. It makes any move, ie most of the fun techniques, too slow and drawn out to use in a fight without getting hit and having your free flow ruined. Some fags say it just means you have to play more defensively but that completely defeats the design and purpose of the whole combat system.
Also the boss fights suck.
Also the map sucks.
Charles Gonzalez
Pretty much every addition in Arkham Knight was bat-tank related. I don't actually remember anything about the fighting that was new, except the Riddler-bots and multi-takedowns. And the multi-takedowns were lame. Maybe I'm just forgetting the improvements because of all the time spent in the tank.
Git gud fagit.
Nicholas Bailey
I always thought of it as the guy swung the neck-end of the bottle as a weapon, failed, and then slammed Penguin's face into a table with the bottom-end of the bottle laying on it so it got stuck like it did.
>why not wear glasses or contacts Maybe I'm mistaken, but wasn't a monocle meant specifically for people who needed correction in only one eye? If that's the case, I suppose he could just use a single contact these days, but not glasses.
Ayden Kelly
On the subject of not needing a monocle for corrective purposes:
>The antiquarian Philipp von Stosch wore a monocle in Rome in the 1720s, in order to closely examine engravings and antique engraved gems, but the monocle did not become an article of gentlemen's apparel until the nineteenth century.
I suppose it has a double purpose for Penguin then, both as part of his gentleman's facade and as a means to inspect fine details of the materials he moves illegally through Gotham.
Matthew Hill
Find has lost his edge for years.
Blake Sanders
>Bane fight >Anywhere close to bad
Aaron Morgan
Arkham series is one of my favourites too lad, I consider Knight top tier as well.
Evan Anderson
I'd like to point out the festering mess than the penguins face would be in these circumstances.
Think about it: it can't have been a clean bottle, so there was still some traces of beer in there. Yeast and shit, now trapped in a bubble with a source of water and flesh that regularly gets exposed to sunlight and is constantly kept warm by body heat.
This is the sort of shit that results in an absolute nightmare infection that turns half his face into necrotic mush.
Levi Harris
>Maybe I'm just forgetting the improvements because of all the time spent in the tank. You are there's a ton of new combat/gadget mechanics but it' understandable. I like Knight as well. Pretty much if you don;t have a problem with the Batmobile/tank gameplay it's a fine game. Also I willing to say it's pretty great if you have all the DLC. It gives you some actually boss fights.
Henry Powell
> repeatedly dodging a charger > anywhere close to good
This is the worst kind of boss fight, second only to QTE boss fights, which origins is also full of
Evan King
To be fair, Two-Face's should be too by now.
Jack Scott
>stupid and needlessly edgy congrats you figured out the theme bamham was going for.
Robert Bell
How doesn't it break when Batman beats the shit out of the Penguin?
Noah Young
awight guvnor I'm the penguin I am, just u bob along and take a butcher's 'ook for the batman, willya?
Fuck you, don't dare to insult my beloved Arkhamverse.
Camden Carter
You are literally me.
Brayden Nguyen
I know I'm gonna get called Sup Forumsmblr SJW etc. etc. so I'm braced for the (Yous)s but I just finished Arkham City and it is noticeable and stupid how literally every character in the game with a vagina has to be called a bitch or a whore or a slut at least once every time they appear on camera.
I probably wouldn't have noticed except my gf and my female roommate are both TAS fans and it was sold to me as having writing as strong as TAS but every time we played it was as embarrassingly juvenile as any other manchild EPIK VIDYA made by Sup Forumsirgins for Sup Forumsirgins.
If network censorship is what forced Dini & co. to craft actually strong well written villains with arcs and motivations instead of just showing how EEEEVIIIILLL they are by calling Selina or Ivy a skank in every scene then I guess I'm glad for network censorship.
Michael Brown
I never heard whore or slut
Just lots and lots of Bitch.
It was noticably absent in Knight.
Her kiss takedown is still the stupidest.
Jacob Murphy
>Implying Dini's at fault
The only game 100% Dini is Asylum, from City onwards it was Dini (main story) plus Rocksteady own writers (rest of the game)
Luis Cox
This. People shit on origins only because they expected a second coming of Christ after City, and expect they got a game that's quite similar in quality. It has become a meme at this point, but Origins has the best story, soundtrack, gameplay and atmosphere in my opinion. And personally I had no issues with any serious bugs.
Cameron Howard
>If network censorship is what forced Dini & co. to craft actually strong well written villains with arcs and motivations TwoFace is the only main antagonist that calls them bitches. The rest are just nameless murdering/raping goons. No one gives a shit about them and I don't think I ever seen nameless goons have arcs or motivations. They literally there to be bad and get their ass kick by the protagonist.
Xavier Johnson
Are we still mimicking Sup Forums and pretending to hate arkham knight?
Elijah Miller
>Pretending
Jason Baker
>people find his cokcney accent weird or unfitting >I've always loved it and it made me appreciate Nolan North's range a smidge more
Does the fact that I'm not a native English speaker have to do anything with this?
It's far from my favorite version of Oswald but I like how no-nonsense and ruthless he is in these games. It makes sense for him to act composed and dignified when he has business to attend to, that's his whole character, I know. But in these games, because of how dire everything is, you only see the "bad" side of him. And I think this is a pretty good representation of that.
But yes, that broken bottle business is stupid.
Isaiah Jackson
Everything about Arkham Penguin is so needlessly edgy. It's so ridiculous, you can't take it seriously.