>James Cameron almost had a mutiny on his hands that threatened the entire production. Aliens was being shot in England at Pinewood Studios, who provided unionized workers to work on films that were being produced. Tensions began almost immediately, as the British crew was not fond of Cameron’s 14-hour days. Cameron was also confused by the British workers insistence on having tea breaks and Bill Paxton would later say that the workers would often head to the pub during lunch to down a few pints, likening the practice to if there were fully stocked bars on Hollywood sets. Ridley Scott also had slightly more respect because He was British and Cameron was American descent.
These brit cunts refuse to work without their nasty tea.
Brandon Jenkins
>He was American descent. he's a fucking canadian. he's part of the commonwealth. he's literally a britbong
Adam Davis
Gee, who wouldn't love to work 14 hour days?
Hunter Richardson
Still I understand OP's statement. Kinda of shows how weak and low stamina British people are.
Blake Miller
>as the British crew was not fond of Cameron’s 14-hour days Why are britbongs so weak?
Anthony Stewart
this
Where do you think we get our banter skills from anyway? No wonder yanks have such a poor sense of humour, you're not allowed to do anything other than work
Also daily reminder productivity in the US is FAR below Western Europe
Grayson Collins
I think it's mostly that they don't suck each other off themselves like Americans do when it comes to labor. Americans love talking about how much they work, how little time they have to spend with their families, how taxing the job is on their bodies. As a casual observer it feels like a completely different world.
Maybe that's one of the reasons Americans don't live quite as long? It's got to at least be a factor, right?
Elijah Hill
I'm British and you make me feel sick
>where do you think we got our banter from
You ain't got no banter you retard
Noah Hill
This is why the nips are our true greatest ally. No one will ever understand America like the country we bombed and then rebuilt from nothing
Landon Perry
LMAO!
James Thompson
>MUH TEA BRAKES
Christian Jackson
Also Americans are better at taking care of their teeth :)
Jack Green
14 hour days are standard when you make a movie. That's why the U.S. film industry is heavily unionized for fair wages.
Blake Morgan
Productivity of what? America is a technology/product based economy. What is western Europe "out producing" us on?
Dylan Lee
>14 hour shifts
is this on alternating days or something? I can't imagine having to work 12+ hours for more than a few days straight
Gabriel Howard
Fucking weakling...
Zachary Flores
No. See
Ryder Perry
This is untrue. Standard is 12 on 12 off.
Aiden Clark
They aren't bragging about working a lot, user, they are complaining
Caleb Morgan
But it did get made and the tea breaks - which apparently played a part, hence the thread - helped to create one of the best action movies ever. NEXT!
Kevin Thompson
western yurop's economy is shrinking, bud. the only economic powerhouse is germany
Juan Jones
Standard for what field? It's not true in the film industry.
Jackson Adams
And how would you fucking know user??
Lincoln Jones
I've heard a similar story with a movie shot in France. Forgot which movie it was though. Ring a bell with anyone?
Liam Hughes
Makes sense the French can't have a taxi strike without trying to rerun the revolution.
Alexander Baker
Because I'm a lowly PA.
Gavin Ross
Production Assistant? I'm confused.
Joshua Myers
guessing he means personal assistant
Parker Fisher
>he doesn't work 27 hours a day
Jacob Torres
>banter skills >skills
Sure, Ameriboo.
Sure.
Cooper Morris
Meanwhile in America
Justin Mitchell
You're working crap jobs then. I do G&E work with friends in local 728 and 80, and while the union offers rates for hourly, daily (8hrs), and weekly (40hrs), any reasonable commercial comp or narrative is gonna be based on a 12 on 12 off schedule. Anything beyond that and it gets into OT/Second Meal and production doesn't really want to deal with that.
Some Post houses work on a 12 hour day, but most are 10. No idea what pre-pro works, probably 8 hour days, the affluent bastards.
Evan Brown
Why work your life away? To make money for people who will try and export our jobs anyway?
Andrew Butler
thats normal dude. when i was doing PA work on movies a few years back everyday would be basically a 12 hour workday.
Carter White
Yes, production assistant. Living "the dream" here in Los Angeles.
Dominic Mitchell
Obvious Yank is obvious
Your burger is showing m8
Andrew Miller
Culture and civilisation
We gave the world Shakespeare, democracy, and the greatest pieces of classical music ever heard.
You gave us fast food, cheese in a can, aaaand...what again? Oh, that's right. Billy Ray Cyrus.
Carter Cook
neat another PA angelino here.
dont do PA work anymore (work in Beer now lol) but last job i did was horrible bosses 2
Easton Bell
Low stamina sure, but they can hold a camera and point it at whatever James Cameron wants. British people have been known to make movies historically speaking, so it should be possible at least. Americans only recently have the concept of work/life balance, since the protestant work ethic told them that they should work all of the time, or they would go to hell.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
Beer industry seems pretty cool. I complain but there's no way in hell I'd ever want to move back east. LA is the best city in the world as far as I'm concerned.
Cameron Bell
>Kinda of shows how weak and low stamina British people are.
That's why Hollywood is filled with british actors, directors, writers, cinematographers and composers that regularly outperform their american counterparts, because they're "weak" and "low stamina".
Ryder Garcia
See, the thing is, the Brits don't make movies that way. They work normal working days.
James Taylor
>needing the government to write your contracts for you Why is the rest of the world so shit at negotiating employment?
Ian Myers
Film is an art that got corrupted and turned into a business by Jews.
There's still a lot of directors, and actors, that treat it like an art, and are willing to commit the time it takes to do the job right, regardless if it means filming all day and night. Sadly, they are forced to work with union scum that don't give a shit about the project and are just there for a paycheck.
Carson Wilson
I'll gladly take 14 hour shifts working on a great film. Sign me up.
Ethan Parker
Bro, you make me laugh.
Jordan Hernandez
Without unions they would be working 24/7, while mister Smecklestein counts the money they make for him.
Logan Price
sounds like they were acting like a bunch of amateurs, which makes sense because not a lot of movies are shot in the UK
Caleb Nelson
>not a lot of movies are shot in the UK
Carson Jones
yeah feel that. im from SF but cant afford to live there anymore.
moved here like 7 years ago and went straight into PA work. was getting consistent set and office PA work but after a couple years I got overwhelmed with it. the long days were a big factor and made me and my then live with gf have problems
so i quit and started a casual job in beer. do miss being on set though. even if it is fucking up a specific sandwich order from Lemonade and being yelled at by some cunt AD
Leo Williams
>British crew was not fond of Cameron’s 14-hour days Is there anyone in the world that's fond of 14-hour shifts? What the fuck, that's inhuman.
Isaiah Williams
>Without unions they would be working 24/7
And?
How do you think Mr. Smecklestein has managed to eliminate competition and monopolize the industry? By employing UNIONS to harass the fuck out of anyone that doesn't use union labor, that's how. That's why there aren't more independent films, because it's harder to get the cash to pay union retards than it is to pay salary workers that will actually give a shit about their jobs.
Mason Fisher
you're right that was retarded of me to say, I take it back
Julian Taylor
They only work 3 months a year rather than 12.
Nolan Edwards
Only in America.
Dylan Morales
In the US, it seems like everyone I know is on some pain Olympics shit. Every SINGLE PERSON, if I tell them it sucked working say, 6am to 4pm, then coming back at 10pm to cover a shift until 7am (24/hr restaurant), the response is ALWAYS the same >that's nothing!! >spins a story about working 48 hours straight
Every time
Parker Perez
Wow. I must be lost. Is this Sup Forums?
Nice one m8
Caleb Martinez
dont work in film then. thats pretty much standerd
Ethan Roberts
>Only in America >the most powerful nation on Earth Really makes you think.
Easton Sanchez
>unions are good for mr shekelberg Nice delusion. Unionized countries (like Norway) have the best worker welfare in the world, and unions stop mr shekelberg from doin whatever the fuck he wants. If it werent for unions, shitty immigrants would take every job by accepting low pay. Unions stop that from happening. In murrica however,you allhave to work slave wages and hours to afford rent for a 10m2 cupboard
John Jackson
there are plenty of productions that do 16+ hour days
it's easier to hide money in the budget in OT than in shooting days, so people are willing to do a 30 day schedule with insane OT instead of a 45 day schedule with 12 hours because it's the only way they can actually get production going
Joseph Cook
I worked 14 hour shifts in a sausage roll and scotch egg factory last year, did get tea breaks though.
Isaac Flores
The average American makes seven grand more per year than Norwegians
Owen Adams
I used to work at a logistics center doing 12-13 hour shifts (5pm - 6am) hands down the worst job I ever had, despite the pay being solid.
Everyone does that though
Daniel Smith
>Unironically thinking that the USA is anything more than a slghtly developed third-world country You can't even afford a fucking kettle.
Michael Sanchez
>have the best worker welfare in the world
Then why didn't they dominate the western world after WW II?
You pussies are just afraid of freedom, because freedom means you are free to FAIL just as much as you are free to succeed.
You're a slave, and a coward, as is your entire shitty yuronanny nation.
Luis Jenkins
Any job that involves working at a "center" of any kind is going to be awful.
Joshua Hill
Tea breaks are literally mandated by law.
Alexander Morris
Are we supposed to believe that?
Robert Cruz
Yes I can, it's just that tea is barbaric.
Jayden Miller
American "poverty" is literally equivalent to the median income of most of Europe.
Wyatt Lee
Go to bed Donald, the big boys are talking.
Benjamin Nguyen
>american arguments
Ayden Martinez
How horrible it is that Americans bring real numbers to a debate, when clearly we should just be using hyperbole.
Jackson Perry
Everybody that wasn't lazy, or a coward, left Europe for the new world long ago.
The rest never had the balls to separate themselves from the Queens' tit, and are still sucking on it today.
Andrew Phillips
Only lower class trash left europe.
Liam Phillips
You genuinely are fucking delusional and brainwashed, kek. You aint shit pal, you are literally nothing and nobody.
Ethan Smith
The seven grand extra you instantly have to give to insurers so if you get an ingrown toenail you don't get a hospital bill for 25 grand, or the seven grand you put towards three months of college for your fatass spawn. Both of which cost Mr Norway fuck all... that and a million other examples.
You yanks are the biggest cuck pussys in the world and don't even realise.
Ian Williams
That's why the US ranks higher than every individual European country on Purchasing Power Index, right?
Grayson Williams
Yeah, imagine actually having to work
Jayden Ramirez
To be fair Japanese workers are actually surprisingly lazy.
They work long hours but they don't actually work all that hard during those hours.
Jaxson Sanders
And yet you have a minimum wage.
John Cox
Are Americans genuinely not entitled to get any breaks?
Mason Thompson
Kek, thinking this matters for universal healthcare and free higher education, holy shit man.
No you are right chief, carry on, land of the free...to be fucked by any corporation and company as they see fit, or, you know, just die.
Joseph Perry
Unless I'm looking up the wrong stats they don't though.
Gimme some of them juicy stats.
Thomas Parker
>literally the only two areas where americans pay more than europe >coincidentally the only areas the government is heavily involved in you make a convincing argument for handing over 60% of my paycheck
And yes, the oooonly two, hah, ok. I'm done, you're an idiot, play a record.
Ian Murphy
Grazie.
Caleb Lee
Are you thinking of SAG? Because SAG has the mandated breaks and "can't start until X" like the FAA does but I am not sure IATSE etc. have the same deal worked out.
Brody Hill
>muh banter you don't have banter you have snobby, underhanded remarks that you needle people with and then get pissed off when someone calls you out on it. buncha passive aggressive faggots
Matthew Bailey
I'm surprised you can stay off the queens' tit long enough to actually type something....
Well done, Nigel.
Joseph Howard
>tfw born in america >I will never get drunk at lunch with the lads and make movies
Hudson Robinson
>playing pretend >actual work lmao
Jordan Butler
>mfw people born near me don't get drunk at lunch with their work pals
Letting the industrialist oligarchs win, comrade
Asher Jenkins
I've directed two movies, both shot in Czech Republic. 16 hour days were the norm. International films with bigger budgets routinely go even longer than that.