So why isn't anyone talking about how pic related is on its way to become one of the biggest Box office bombs in...

So why isn't anyone talking about how pic related is on its way to become one of the biggest Box office bombs in history? if not THE biggest?

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I guess we just don't care.

Was it a bomb or some weird Juden accounting. Can you show me audited forensic proof that Hollywood lost 200 million? Remember, big wigs gets the dailies, Someone would have caught the stinky bits.

It's because Hollywood is trying to ignore its failure so they can keep pushing that pug ugly skanky fucking dyke Cara Pigsnout as the NEXT BIG THING!!!FACT!!!

Its not even out in most countries yet you idiot

Even with the big budget it doesn't feel high profile at all

It wasn't made by Hollywood, retard. Cuck Besson is a French director. The French government partially backed it because in France all media has to be 25% French. It's still a colossal fuckup though and I hope it ruins Cara and Besson's reputation enough for them to fuck off.

It just had a huge opening in India and it isn't out in China yet. They were expecting it ny to do well in the US so they went all out in the foreign markets. It'll make its money back

200 million budget and made like 3 million on opening weekend, 2 week later its at 24 million globally

b-but cara deleding is so popular! what can possibly go wrong?

I kinda liked valerian

It probably won't even open in China, do you have source for the 'huge opening in India' ?

Best chance to break even is if the french will go see it 8 times per capita.

Go fuck yourself

>not out in the UK yet
>not out in Australia yet
>not out in China yet
>not out in Russia yet
>not out in Germany yet

Fuck off

Okay 1stable, it definitely is the most expensive independent film that had ever got made outside of the Hollywood system. We really need to see how Europe Corp & Associates are going to handle the matter within a years or two. 2ndly, they were creative about the financing: newscdn.newsrep.net/h5/nrshare.html?id=040945486C10100001_us&r=3&lan=en_US&pid=14&app_lan=en_US&mcc=440&declared_lan=en_US&pubaccount=ocms_0 Sooo... it's a bit of different view, we may be going to see in the terms of getting wounded at the box office, user. At this point, we kinda hafta wait to see what comes out.

because it doesn't come out here for another two weeks.

ima go read the bandes dessins again and pretend.

>ruins Cara and Besson's reputation enough for them to fuck off.

if "Subway" didn't ruin Besson's reputation, nothing will.

"kkkhhhHeh." - Christopher Lambert, in every film he's ever been in

>Hollywood

It's a French film you mongoloids.

I liked it

But the pacing kinda disintegrated in the second half

I never heard of this movie outside of this board. What the fuck was marketing team doing ?

Because it's a foreign film starring literally who, directed by that guy who did that one film anyone actually liked.

Not gonna save it faggot. The worst thing they could've done is trickle it's release like that, it's gotten bad word of mouth.

It might not even be the biggest bomb of the year, but a lot of companies are going to be hurt by this.

It still won't be enough to break even. China is the biggest market where it hasn't been released yet and it has saved other movies. But in the case of Valerian it looks too weird and the source material too obscure.

>implying that 'marketing' expenses of the budget aren't just a way to launder money for jews.

Valerian had the second biggest start of the year in France.

So is it official that Rihanna in a live-action role is box office poison now?

>a French film released in France performed aptly
Wow it's fucking nothing

>>not out in Germany yet
I watched it last week in Berlin. And it sucked. plz go away

I actually saw a bunch of trailers for it here in my shit third world country, and before big movies from DC and Marvel. Posters in the cinema too. I guess they're expecting us to save it?

Total Gross 300 million China alone 48 million. With marketing the movie probably just barely broke even.

It's a french film.
Nobody cares about ameritard's opinion on this. They can't help but compare foreign films with the crappy stuff they've already made and diss it, since they believe they're the center of the universe.

hi Tanner. ready for high school?

It's a shame. It could have been great if a director that actually knew what to do with the source material had handled it. It had all the elements needed to make a smash summer blockbuster hit but the retarded director spent all his time trying his best to kinda but not really mimic other hit sci-fi/fantasy films (you can just tell while watching it that the production team wanted it to be the next Avatar) while ignoring shit that actually makes a movie good. Like coherent writing. And meaningful dialog. And main characters that are well acted.

It's not a horrible film by any means but it's not a great one either. It's just okay. It's one of those movies that two decades from now a cult following of hipsters will swear by it as an unappreciated masterpiece when it was new.

>Nobody cares about ameritard's opinion on this
>movie is in english and lots of american actors in it

ameritards would rather watch spiderman 11, transformers 7, fast cars 9, or star wars 9

And what?
American movies are full of british actors.

Show us the books. Around Juden always get the right books.

Was it a bomb though, or a cleverly placed go to fool tax man.

It reeks of Jew accounting

Because Hollywood doesn't have subsidiaries. Its bombing will trickle back to the umbrella corp and they'll say, "see we lost $400 million, give Us tax break."

>saw one trailer
>thought it was a Mass Effect movie
>its not

I have no idea what this even is...

All of which would be better movies

Ironically Rihanna's introduction was probably the most entertaining part of the film. Which is dumb because she was literally in the film for a total of ten minutes in a throw away role that went nowhere. It was like the director knew no one was going to be interested in his film so he shoehorned Rihanna in as a last-ditch marketing gimmick.

It could have been great. I liked it but I can see why people don't.

Luc needed to bringer a writer on to help with narrative and characters.

I saw it mostly to support original Sci-fi and risk taking.

There is Chinese money all over this. It looks like a Chinese company played role in production.

Clear shots of the Chinese flag a few times and a very prominent heroic Chinese national.

If they market it right in China I can see it being saved from bombing.

>It was like the director knew no one was going to be interested in his film so he shoehorned Rihanna in as a last-ditch marketing gimmick.

It immediately reminded me of pic related. Every ad was like "TYRA BANKS! TYRA BANKS STARS IN OUR MOVIE!" and then she had maybe four minutes of screentime.

Yes they would, you must realize that in order to make a lot of money through these films you've got to pander to simple minded idiots with short attention spans because that's what makes up the majority of the world nowadays.

Its too boring.

>They are all ugly

Whoa

youtube.com/watch?v=VaWCEzfXCaU

>I have no idea what this even is...

An adaptation of Valerian & Laureline, the French comic series that inspired the aesthetic of most space opera films & shows of the last fifty years. If it looks like Mass Effect, it's because Mass Effect was inspired by its source material.

>Because Hollywood doesn't have subsidiaries.

It really doesn't have much, if any, American money in it. It's all French & Chinese. Even its distribution isn't through a major distributor but three year old startup STX Entertainment.

>there was a time when Tyra didn't look like a drag queen

Ah, those were the days.

the casting completely ruins a promising movie

This. I have no doubt this movie would have easily ranked among the top grossing films of the year had its leads been played by reputable actors appropriate for the roles.

This picture looks like they are trying Mass Effect cosplay at a Paris sci fi convention

INSTANT CULT CLASSIC

Honestly I didn't think about it until now but everything in the film from the outfits to the tech to the space ships to the the story about the forming of the massive space station to the alien races feels like it was inspired by Mass Effect.

That's because it's actually the other way around; Mass Effect was heavily inspired by the comic that Valerian is based on.

youtube.com/watch?v=VaWCEzfXCaU

stop shilling your video cunt

but how else am I going to get Sup Forums bros to watch it?

Because noone cares enough. It's not:
>another fresh cinematic universe
>something own by sony, or disney
>something hilarious like anything DC related
>starring Chloe, Jenniffer Lawrence or any celebrity we really like to laugh at
>WE WUZ KANGZ or girlpower bullshit
>reddit meme overload flick

It's just a french sci fi movie, nothing really to be happy about.

So you're saying their movie just ripped off a shitty video game?

No, I'm saying they both ripped off a vastly superior comic book.

Sure thing Sup Forums

Who even is the chick I've never heard nor seen her before

Mila Jovovich

some of the concepts in this movie are really fucking cool, and the world seems very well developed. the story itself is fine, nothing we haven't seen before, but that's fine. it's actually a pretty small story: a captain causes the destruction of a planet in order to save his own men, and his coverup found out years later when spies are hired to recover the technology the wiped out race has stolen back. it's a cool idea for a story and it can play out on a personal level, not just with city-wide monster battles and shootouts. actually a lot of the drama takes place in the form of personal conflict, but the characters are so poorly motivated it's just boring.

and the dialogue should have been more fun. i think it tried to be but valerian just came off as a tool. and the bad guys were cartoonishly bad. i'm running out of steam with this, i just think the whole think could have been amazing if they had taken more care to tell the story well.

cara wish her tits were that big

All the best movies are based on comic books. Deal with it you turbo pleb

By being genuinely funny or clever. Cunt.

China doesn't save anything. Hollywood only gets 25% of the box office from there now and it used to be 15% before.

Cara

I hate her but she was the best character in the movie.

>200 million budget
>maybe 100 million marketing
>300 million total cost
>be generous and say hollywood gets 50% of total gross (even though we know this isn't the case everywhere) so it made them 150 million

Flop. Even if you cut back and say marketing was only 50 million it's still a flop. Also China doesn't save shit. If that movie made 50 million in China Today, Hollywood would only have gotten 12 million of that. The China saving movies meme needs to die. Also 50 million would be terrible even if it's chinabucks.

Bottom right is okay. the others are all pretty shit though.

I don't think China will save this movie but they are responsible for keeping shitty franchises going. If it weren't for China, Hollywood's average movie budget would be lower but there would be an even worse scramble for lowest common denominator bullshit.

Problem with Hollywood is that even though billion dollar grossing movies are more common now, they still don't take risks and follow the formulas that have got them billions before. Just look at Universal trying to push this new Monster franchise.

Valerian doesn't look good, but It looks not awful enough for China. They only save the complete dogshit tier movies, like Trans5mers or The Mummy reboot.

>why aren't people talking about a bomb
That's what made it a bomb.

I don't think Besson particularly cares. He just wanted to make the movie he wanted to make and didn't have an interest in making money off it.

He's still working on Lucy 2.

But I am

Fuck Hollywood anyway.

They look like fucking goddesses compared to Cara Delapuke!

Also, Piper Perabo whips her A-Cup titties out on the reg - don't hate!

>Piper Perabo
I always expected her to be a bigger star

It was one of the most obvious flops in history so no one was surprised about it.
And it didn't really generate any political controversy during its production so Sup Forums doesn't care to shitpost about it.

Has any one actually seen it? I've been wanting to see it, it looked interesting. Being a bomb that's a cult classic and being a bomb that's a shit movie aren't the same thing. I'm hoping it's the first

I don't know about cult classic but it's a pretty serviceable movie that people will defend once the shitposting dies down.

I saw it the day it came out (Movieplace had a deal with it, Dunkirk, and a soda for $20.)

The plot is nothing special, the special effects are nice but not amazing, and the two leads have zero chemistry.

I did like some of the opening sequence, but the movie is a mess.

Why did they co-opt mass effect armour?

Good actors couldn't have saved the clunky dialogue. Especially the power of love shit near the end.

Why pick these lead actors?

Supposed to be an attractive woman? Supposed to be a handsome guy? wtf

A cunt? Yes you are.

You never saw the Academy Award winner film DC's Suicide Squad?

I saw it at a free screening. The mediocre story isn't helped by poor CGI, bad writing, and poor character development.

Just came back from seeing it. I like the concept, and the technology porn is pretty cool, but the leads were miscast, the dialogue is cringeworthy sometimes, the romance is wholly unconvincing, and the pacing is all over the place. YMMV on the quirky, Fifth Element-esque side characters who show up all over the place
Overall, it's mediocre, with some great parts balanced out by dumb parts. Also, I'm looking forward to Clive Owen as M. Bison in the next Street Fighter movie.

deadline.com/2017/07/valerian-who-loses-luc-besson-europacorp-fundamental-films-stx-1202134583/

>200 million budget and made like 3 million on opening weekend

>tfw after all these years Sup Forums still knows nothing about the film business

The exposure for EuropaCorp is significant. Those in the pre-sales world don’t believe what Deadline was told — that 90% of the film’s budget was sold this off around the world in pre-sales and made up by tax credits. They say pre-sales would cover more like 60%.

>getting that butthurt over a shitty movie

lmaoing @ your life nigga

The numbers on this one is a bit weird. Sure it's not recieving all the money spent. But much of the budget was apparently from some kind of pre-purchase thing they did. And they got some from the french government or something like that. Anyway, it hasn't even released in the entire world, and it's expected to do pretty well in France.

Deadline's sources are full of shit. Luc Besson is a corporate officer of EuropaCorp. It is illegal for a corporate officer of a publicly traded company to publicly lie about financial matters pertaining to the company.