Nolan confirmed Hack

This movie was T H O R O U G H L Y fucking boring
What is the consensus on this Sup Forums? I was surprised at how unspectacular this ended up being. The whole time watching it I was thinking to myself, perhaps it's a slow build-up for a big-time payoff? But nope. Just plain boring, Nobody was memorable or did anything that stood out. No great scenes, no one to root for..I could go on but tl;dr this movie just had no personality yet got killer reviews , what am I missing?

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I'm sure the next seven marvel flicks will be right up your alley guy.

It was extremely tense throughout most of the movie, you might just be fucking retarded

Only nolan shills will say it's good

And what the fuck even was this faggot's purpose in this whole ordeal? All he did was pic related, stood and stared and made facial expressions as planes flew above and people died

FUCKING THIS

Not sure I expected anything different besides parroted responses like this. How bout you guys detail what you liked and what made it good instead of regurgitating Sup Forums lazy generic responses

Oh and spiderman, doctor strange, and guardians 2 were all shit so nice try

It's as if Nolan thought he could get away with showing some nice or dramatic-looking visuals paired with zimmer's compositions alone. But that doesnt make a good film, you have to develop the characters, make the viewer care about the people they're watching. I dont know how else to articulate it this but this movie simply.....showed things happening....rather than telling a story with substance

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time to kill yourself op

I don't understand people saying they didn't care about the characters. The humanity of the situation should be enough to invoke empathy.

Dialogue was pretty bad throughout the film. Visual storytelling was pretty good. The plot did seem to kind of meander and the conclusion is much less powerful because of it. I think his intrusion on the sequence of events really took me out of it. It was still an alright film all things considered.

Go away jeremy

But that isn't enough in art. You can't just make a holocaust film and expect sympathy for the characters because of the drastic situation they're placed in. That's just lazy.

people like it because it's original

also no jew propaganda as in 0 niggers and 0 women

it's impressive nolan could something like this in this year we SHOULD praise him

A bunch of WHOOSHES and BANGS and POPS will not save a bad movie user...

>0 women
Did you watch the film?

IMAX movies aren't made for the blind, sorry

there's a black soldier

Did you? Theres literally no females in the movie

>landing the plane
>surviving
>getting himself caught while the fire rises
B R A V O
RR
AA
VV
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Kenneth Branagh has legit dialogue with one at the end of the movie

Among french

neither will visuals..
You've still yet to defend the movie using your words despite DUDE YOU SHOULDA SEEN IN IMAX BRO MAN LMAO

yep i agree. i thought it was boring and pointless. nothing happened. there was no excitement. the false sense of danger he tried to make you feel thorughout the film failed because he kept the music constant and had the stupid fucking clock ticking. when used sparingly and appropriately, sure, music is great. but the whole fucking movie just dragged. it was so fucking stupid and pointless. 3 years after interstellar, he produces this garbage.

it had all the character of a documentary, except this was just plain uninformative. at least you learn something from watching documentaries.

i almost left the theatre several times and was annoyedly sighing and rolling my eyes the entire movie.

0/10

Is the beginning of the Nolanverse?

I saw it in delectably warm 70mm. I also expected a Nolan film, which was bullshit characters and horrible dialogue, luckily he went and omitted characters and dialogue altogether, which saved the movie.

Anyone has a webm of that trailer fail where guy was smiling covering from aerial attack?

it's autism

Sure faggot, why dont you just talk about your favorites like atomic blonde and emoji movie and leave this one to people who actually care about film.

What about the toast lady?

Its not hard to understand that he didnt stand there for a week straight. he talked to the boat captains, and facilitated the move. Probably slept somewhere on the beach with the rest.

you dont need to be shown that.

The score was another complaint of mine. Zimmer is a master when used properly but Nolan abused him like you said, you've got to pick your spots where you use the intense music. He tried to manufacture intensity with the music but it should come naturally to the audience depending on whats going on in the movie. I think Nolan tried to see if he can pull off using just intense score and visuals rather than telling a story how he usually does. Didnt work imo

review the movie how about that?

>You can't just make a holocaust film and expect sympathy for the characters because of the drastic situation

Always amazes me how assblasted anons opt for personal attacks rather than concise, intelligent replies

>Christopher "I have no concept of human emotion or beauty and have outright declared I prefer to anonymize and dehumanize the characters in my movies so I can focus on setpieces and cannot write to save my life but I have a large group of fanboys who will apologize for every one of my mediocre movies here's some more extreme violence but completely bloodless and without any impact whatsoever because I don't care about people and don't bother trying to make the audience care about these people. Thank god I made some capeshit so I'd always have the money to make these shitty movies forever." Nolan

Post shit, get shitposted

What I DON'T need to be shown is the same pointless shot zooming in on his stupid face while he stares at the sky for minutes at a time with unnecessarily dramatic zimmer compositions

always amazes me how well thought arguments against great movies are.

The only thing Nolan is good for is soulless puzzles. Would it kill him to make ONE interesting character?

explain how this movie was great or even good then? Not one person in this thread has so far

I fucking lost my attention, did the french guy survived or not?

There was a black soldier and several women

No reviewer was lying when they said see this in 70mm IMAX (full disclosure, I saw this on a regular screen). In my opinion, it necessitates it. I can just "tell" from what I saw. The aerial shots alone would provide good reasoning for it, but the sound that those theaters provide with the big picture in front of you will captivate you exactly the right way.

This isn't a social kind of film, and it certainly isn't popcorn entertainment. Not a summer blockbuster at all. This film's scope feels very small, even though it carries epic tones within. Nolan really broke a lot of traditional film conventions with this, and I think that exact kind of ambition is what makes this movie work for a more general audience. I somewhat think audience members need to know what they're getting into beforehand to be accepting of that fact, but once they are I think they will be just fine.

On a technical level, I think this is Nolan's best yet. The Prestige still might get higher honors simply because of the more demanding writing that is involved, but given what Nolan intended to do, this nearly screams "perfection." Did he try and go for an R-rating? No. Did that matter? Not even close. Did he try and provide massive amounts of character development? No. Did that matter? Depends on who you talk to. I could honestly say that if there were two cuts of this film—an extended cut that develops the characters and this one—you could give us the option and we would find the one we enjoy more depending on what we're looking for. Did he look to vilify the Germans to the point of controversy? No. Did that matter? It didn't, but only one part does stick out for me (the "one flaw" that Nolan often has trouble with in his writing) and I'll get back to that in a moment.

>all these plebs complaining about lack of character development

Literally not getting the point of the film at all...

That being said, I still didn't think it was all that great.

For me the biggest issue was that the movie felt empty.

There were literally 0 Germans in sight, unless you count the planes as Germans.

So the whole movie felt like the guys running from some phantom menace, it felt like those stories where the storyteller tells you "well...I didn't actually hear any of this, I heard it from a friend's friend, who heard it from his cousin.."

I don't know if it was intentional or not, but really it felt fucking empty, also I think they could have shown more as to WHY Dunkirk was "The event that shaped our world" (as all the ads call it)

"Harrowing" is easily my favorite word to describe Dunkirk. This is a survival film, and that's all it is. He put us on the beach, on the sea, and in the air. He gave the characters a want and will to live with an impending threat for which we understand its consequence, without need of showing thousands of deaths or lots of blood. When one moment of attempted survival ends, another one begins without warning. That doesn't mean the film is relentless action, but it certainly is relentless tension, if for no other reason than Hans Zimmer's score. I'm telling you right now, his score is my favorite part of the film. It's actually mostly a quiet kind of score, but it is frightening and works with the film so very well.

Nolan has had a lot of trouble doing "show, not tell" in his past films. This time he has learned a lot, not letting the actors expose everything (acting was fine all around, by the way... not much to say about it honestly, as it's not the film's high point). I did not feel the presence of the surrounding enemies, though. If the film didn't tell us about it, I probably wouldn't have felt the pressure of getting off that beach sooner than later. Hearing the planes incoming was always scary of course, but as we only had the British perspective and a week-long time line at most, there simply wasn't a chance of feeling time cave in on them. This to me is this film's only real flaw.

I already did bumbaclat

That being said, the only real limitation that holds this film back is that it's based in reality, which means that we are already aware of the outcome. I think for this particular story it's fine, because it's not one specific moment that lets us breathe again... so letting it play out the way that it did is okay with me. I do not think this will go over with people who come in completely uneducated about Dunkirk. I made a mistake in stating that I wanted this film to educate me on the evacuation story. I think I'd rather have learned about it first and then seen the film, kind of like seeing United 93 after having lived 9/11 (not totally, but I was at least cognizant of all that transpired). That doesn't mean to research the film itself, but rather just the historical event.

I do hope that Nolan goes back to fictional work after this. Here was an awesome deviation from the norm that he chose to do, and he went out in grand style. I could have used a longer film with fleshed out character development, but this film also works as well especially in the month of July. I see this receiving many Oscar nominations such as score, editing, cinematography, visual effects, etc... I do not see any acting or writing awards... and yes, I see a director nomination as well. If the academy believes some of those earn him victories, then god damn it give him his Best Picture Oscar as well.

I can't really yet rank this film with his other films, because it's just so different. I don't see too many of the Inception parallels here. Every film of his outside of Insomnia either does nonlinear or intertwining storytelling, but this one is without the cleverness involved in the script. It's just playing things out as they do. Survive. So to revisit, I believe this may be his best work yet, even if I don't know if it's my favorite of his. I really just want to put this in another category from other films entirely, in which case it's my favorite of "that kind of film."

I just got back from seeing it. Really enjoyed it desu. Absolutely terrified of drowning, so it was hard to watch.

This poster reeks of Reddit

I like how the black people were straight up niggers from nigger africa. Those niggas were so black they were blue. That's how you do black people in cinema.


But the rest of the movie sucked

I thought it was great

>WHY Dunkirk was "The event that shaped our world"
Maybe it's just wasn't? D day and even Pearl fucking Harbor fit this more. Not to mention tide turning events like Stalingrad, too bad Russians suck at making movies now.

what is the point, to be a war simulator? Because there wouldn't really be any relateable characters in war?

I'm genuinely asking, I'm not sure

wow

2 second scenes, you destroyed my argument...

I wasn't trying to say "HAHA WOW FUCK YOU AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE", just indicating that there were in fact blacks and women

Pretty much. Nolan's objective was to actually make you feel like you were in the action, like you were actually another nameless solider there among thousands of other nameless soldiers.

How well he succeeded at it, eh, idk. And I saw it in Imax before someone asks.

but they were completely irrelevant in all aspects, how could their 2 seconds scenes POSSIBLY be relevant? why would you make that comment?

btw didn't notice the blacks

I disagree. I felt it was fairly emotional and a pretty accurate portrayal. I especially teared up when it showed all the Little Ships of Dunkirk. But then again, I've done so much research into the war and this in particular that it was just a much more spectacular movie for me

He was the highest ranking naval officer on the beach. He ran the boat scheduling and traffic

>also no jew propaganda as in 0 niggers and 0 women

Why make that comment?

Very true user

>"noone in this thread has given a well thought out reason for liking Dunkirk"
>gives a well reasoned explanation
>"lol reddit"

>be me
>having a birthday
>getting a free IMAX ticket but have to spend some cash there to get it
>watching Spooderman, than Dunkirk
I felt like evolving from a rat to human in several hours.

Do you just like Nolan because of the Bane meme?
Because if so that's a pretty sad bar

He wasnt a leader at all though. When did we see him show some urgency or take action? Never, he was just a spectator the whole time

He told them they couldn't have any boats sink in the Mole and specifically told them to shove the hospital ship with thousands of wounded to sink away from the Mole. They couldn't show all his leadership but that whole organization was facilitated by him.

I agree it wasn't. So why the fuck did they put it there? They're misleading the public.
I knew about Dunkirk, my friends didn't, when we were done, they all asked "so uh..how did this redefine the course of history?"

considering the amount of gore threads the average 4 chan user has seen and the fact most people are generally disgusted by british "people" that's a pretty weak assumption to make

OP Here, person that said reddit wasnt me although he's not wrong.
>So to revisit, I believe this may be his best work yet, even if I don't know if it's my favorite of his.
the fuck? Have you seen The Prestige, Dark Knight, Inception. This is by far near the bottom of the list

>what am I missing?
I just got back from seeing it and I think you had different expectations than what the movie set out to do. I felt constantly stressed the whole time, which I believe was the point as you're supposed to feel that sense of desperation that the British soldiers felt. The sound and visuals were top notch and help cement all the tense moments, and the acting and writing was solid enough to not take away from the film at all (i.e. there wasn't anything as meme worthy as the infamous plane scene). It was more of a thriller than an action film but because the subject is WW2 perhaps you were expecting more battles and such. I'm no critic and I don't consider myself a film buff, but I think the critical acclaim is well deserved and even if you don't I don't understand how this film would make Nolan a hack.

Should have called it a moment in British history, saving 300k for someone who only lost 400k in the whole fucking war should mean something.

When shills are this fucking reddit that they need literally everything explained and shown all the time. Do you really want to watch him schedule boat arrivals and organize embarkation? Would you also care for a movie about stacking containers down at the docks?

Nolan has made some of my all-time favorites so I was just expecting more greatness but dunkirk was lacking in so many departments. I understand what he was going for, that was not lost on me, it just didnt work is all I'm saying

>watch dunkino
>can't watch anything else because I know nothing's gonna be as good as it right now

I think films are done for me

listening to the soundtrack as cope

I'm almost certain you didn't read the chain of replies from this post or you'd understand the point I was making. No I don't need to be spoonfed every little detail, but he didn't demonstrate any leadership qualities, dude looked like he was shitting his pants in every shot

Ever since I saw the first trailer I said to myself "wow this thing will be empty as fuck, 10 bucks on it". Low and behold it was empty as fuck.

Seriously, it felt as if they didn't have enough budget so had to "ghost" most of the stuff.

FUCK WHITE MEN

YASSSSSS QUEEN SLAAAAY
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>I understand what he was going for, that was not lost on me, it just didnt work is all I'm saying
You made it sound more dramatic in the OP but this is Sup Forums so I always assume some hyperbole is in play. I'm just playing armchair psychologist but if I had to guess I'd say you read reviews and threads praising the film before hand so that combined with your love of Nolan set the bar too high. Dunkirk in my opinion is an 8/10 movie for the average viewer but that can shift a couple points either way depending on personal taste and I'm sure you're just on the lower end of that spectrum and the autism spectrum :^). There's nothing wrong with disliking "slow burn" films but if I'm incorrect and you actually do like them, what's a movie you think did what Dunkirk was going for better?

Where's my fooking tea and a jam sammich, you hoe?

Ameritards millenials are a fucking cancer. Please go back to your capeshit and nustar wars, there wil be plenty of "action" there for you.

t. reddit

Did they cut this guy from the movie or I missed the moment?
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Off topic but someone please remind me to make a (You) edit of the German propaganda flyer they dropped on Dunkirk at the beginning of the film. Thanks! :^)

Do it (You)rself

>its 8/10 for average viewer

Nope, completely wrong.
It's 5/10 for average viewer and that's being GENEROUS.

I work at a movie theater and after every showing there's a huge amount of people commenting how bad the film was because it's "slow and boring and nothing happened"

You're right, I'm probably overestimating the general public's interest in the film. It feels like it should've released in winter or fall. Summer blockbuster this is definitely not but at least if the masses hate it I can shitpost with
>tfw to intelligent too hate Dunkino
and other such gems.

I dont read reviews I just watch the movies and come up with my own opinions thanks very much :^). I'll give Dunkirk a rewatch but for now 5/10. I actually prefer slow burning, psychological thrillers to action/capeshit flicks like everyone here assumes
capeshit probably makes up 10% of my fav movies

it's still going to be a blockbuster, just that the public won't really like it.

>but for now 5/10
So then Dunkirk is, in your opinion, a mediocre film getting too much praise? I disagree but can certainly understand why you'd have that perspective. I don't think it makes Nolan a hack though, and the fact that it's garnered such good reviews is a testament to it's appeal to certain people. Definitely rewatch it after the hype is long gone.

I thought it was shit. If any other guy other than Nolan it would have gotten its real score, a low 7.

>its gotta be good because its getting nice reviews.

No, you're wrong and you're stupid if you actually believe that. Go take a look at recent movies that have gotten over 90% in RT, you'll see the majority of them are trash.

So why do reviewers like them? They don't, they just either circlejerk around them or they give them an automatic high score because it will give them money, prominence, respect from their peers and because in the odd case that the film is a bit unknown, they can claim renown for giving a good review to a "hidden gem", the "next big thing".

This is a Nolan film, any major critic who dares to call it a bad film will face a constant bombardment from the industry and Nolan fans.

>low 7 is shit
Back to Sup Forums.
I'm curious as to what made you dislike the movie so much. Could you please elaborate on your opinion?

This movie really is a pleb filter, no joke. it shows the divide between people who appreciate all a medium can offer as opposed to only enjoying plot and treating everything else like food coloring . Its similar to the genre/litriture arguments that always come up when a piece of absolute garbage like ready player one become popular.

>litriture
ok

The writing and plot development was rudimentary. The metronome like time shifting was like a slow beating headache. The moral dilemmas stolen directly from shitty broadcast tv serials. The war historians and technical support should have all be shot by a german firing squad.

It was like a war movie for grammar schoolers to get them kinda interested in history. Put this shit up against any of those real war movies from the 60s and 70s, it's dreadfully embarrassing how simplified adult minds have become, how little we ask from filmmakers.

I liked it but people need to stop sucking the soundtrack's dick

It's just clock ticking and BWAAAAAAOOOOMMMM like every other Zimmer score.

Damn that white smoke form every plane that means it's hit pissed me off. But at least the Spit engine dies when you dive, that was pretty accurate.