Why did the Irish not turn to the sea and go fishing during the potato famine?
Hi, I visited a fascinating Famine Museum in Doagh Island, Donegal. The tour guide addressed this question and he said that major factor why people didn’t turn to the sea to solve the food shortage was because just a year or two before the famine began, Ireland and the UK was hit by an massive storm; it was so devastating that it destroyed many small fishing vessels and left an awful lot of fishermen without the boats. Haven’t done the research myself, but it’s an interesting element that factored into the perfect storm.
It wouldn't have mattered. The British owned anywhere that could be fished at. They would simply take the fish from the Irish. More food was exported from Ireland during the Famine than at any point prior to it.
The blight was natural. The Famine was manufactured.
Luke Sullivan
Damn why were the British were so mean to the Irish?
Owen Price
the british also turned away ships from other nations bringing food aid to the island
Samuel Smith
The Irish refused to accept the invasion. Every single generation for 800 years attempted an armed revolution against the British. The British wanted to make the Irish beaten into submission, essentially.
Andrew Hughes
Britain didn't do anything wrong. The Irish should have managed their shit better.
Sebastian Nelson
>we dindu nuffin
Ayden Butler
there are no greater Dindus than the Brits, except perhaps with the exception of La Creatura
Ian Fisher
It was a genocide by the British. They took food from Ireland and eported it purposely. There was often food riots because of this. They also claimed ownership of the seas around Ireland and fishing was seen as a crime. The British must pay reparations for their genocide of the Irish population. They need to pay reparations.
William Adams
even given the historical abuses against the indigenous celts by the eternal Anglonorman, what good would demanding reparations do? isn't Ireland currently a high-performing economy?
Leo Rogers
New IRA when?
Camden Wood
Like others said, they simply weren't allowed to. There's also that fact that pisspoor peasants had no means of acquiring a boat, and whatnwere the inland Irish meant to do? walk to the coast and back?
Gabriel Watson
why didn't the Irish grow victory gardens?
Levi Brown
Isn't South Korea currently a high-performing economy?
Levi Garcia
>The Irish should have managed their shit better.
you were the manager, limey
Julian Adams
The British government should have expelled all the independentist Irishmen to America and repopulate the island with Britons.
Luis Hill
>British cause famine >Irish leave for the US >Irish get powerful in US >Irish send money and guns to IRA >Ireland gets free
Brandon Smith
Well, they tried to push them out through various means. They just couldn't get rid of all of them and the Britons that were sent there became Irish.
Wyatt Torres
Irish sources claimed that as many as 60,000 people had died in the Ulster famine of 1602-3.[13] This may be an exaggeration, as we have no reliable information even about the population of the province, or indeed of the island at the time, but we can be sure that the death toll was very large as a proportion of the pre-war population. The repeated references to cannibalism, both in the 1580s and 1600s is a clear indication that these were very serious crises, where starvation had reached such a pitch that neighbourly and even family bonds of human solidarity had broken down.
Kevin Carter
Instead they relocated a large number of Fenians to Australia permanently my ancestor :)
Noah Campbell
From H.G. Wells's "The Outline of History"
>Irish agriculture during the 1800s was allowed gradually to devolve into the feeding of pigs and the growing of potatoes. Aside from drinking and a little fighting, there was little else to do except fornication. The results were alarming--from a population of around 3 million in 1800, Ireland soared to over 8 million people by 1845. At which point the weary potato gave out under its burden and a frightful famine resulted.
Jason Phillips
Talking about Irish. Do redheaded women have red-haired pubic hair?
Jacob Campbell
Britain literally was the manager for all crops in Ireland
Justin Martinez
Why don't the Haitians fish instead of eating dirt?
Hudson Rodriguez
Why don't the Britons cook instead of eating dirt?
Kevin Cruz
We imported them by the shipload for cheap labor. The plastic paddie cancer in the US can be blamed on the unfortunate legacy of 19th century politicians stirring up Irish nationalism among the community to piss off Britain.
Juan Sanchez
yes
t. sister is a redhead
Isaac Gomez
Irish nationalism has never needed stirred. It burns eternal in the heart of every Gael.
Adrian Wright
why do brits try to genocide every group they touch
Tyler Bennett
The Irish aren't deserving of kindness.
Kevin Gonzalez
If you didn't know, the color of your pubic hair is always the same color as your eyebrows.
Tyler Gray
sad but true
Juan Murphy
Pic?
Christian Garcia
Oh, I see.
John Collins
England over time also cut down most of Ireland's forests for the Royal Navy and to deny locals forest cover to hide in and wage guerrilla warfare. In 1500, as much as 40% of the island may have been forested but today it's about 2%.
Grayson Gray
>In 1500, as much as 40% of the island may have been forested but today it's about 2%.
Haha. Based British.
Alexander Young
>europe has the most beautiful forests on earth >they chop it all down
Eli Hughes
Nah, North America has better ones. Greater biodiversity since a lot of European plant species were wiped out by the Ice Age.
Benjamin Sanders
NA ones are great
Carson Jackson
they did they built "plantations" all over Ireland, basically large farmlands that were given to british settlers. The thing is all of them failed except in northern Ireland, the only plantation to work and it can be seen to this day
Lincoln Scott
Ulster anyway wasn't settled by Irish per se, but Protestant Scots who were brought over in the 1600s.
Josiah Watson
Also lower latitude than Europe so longer growing seasons/more direct sunlight.
Connor Ross
I know. Everywhere except Connaught was settled by british settlers but they mostly failed due to the farmland being to big so they had to hire Irish farmers or they would be raided by Irish clans when the british army pulled out what I was saying is the Ulster plantation is the only one to succeed in its goal
Aaron Anderson
I didn't know Aussies like to fuck their sisters too.
Jason Walker
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Jaxon Fisher
shut the fuck spain
Daniel Moore
Britain transformed whole nations into a huge farmland for the Empire. Everywhere from Ireland to India to Australia to Argentina was put to use growing meat and grain. It created the world's first factory farming and also contributed to the growing homogenization of world agriculture as local crops and livestock breeds were replaced by a couple of English varieties.
Christian Johnson
i have dark pubic hair but blond hair on balls, funny enough i have dark hair but blonde beard
Eli Green
cool wasnt aware of that
Angel Cooper
>funny enough i have dark hair but blonde beard
Are we still talking about your balls?
Dylan Smith
Why are people so mean to the Irish? They have literally done nothing wrong go anyone. Whish you the best of luck Eire.
Dylan Rivera
You too.
Brody Robinson
I wish Ireland were a rice field as well
Luke Davis
Not really, the larger population became very placated by the 20th century until 1916 redpilled to them to their cuckoldry.
David Green
Very similar to the Bengal famine, but they're alien to brits
James Thompson
The Bengal famine of 1943-44 (Bengali: Pañcāśēra manwantara) was a major famine in the Bengal province[A][B] in British India during World War II. An estimated 2.1 million[C] people died from starvation and diseases aggravated by malnutrition, population displacement, unsanitary conditions, and lack of health care. Millions were impoverished as the crisis overwhelmed large segments of the economy and social fabric.
Hudson Cooper
>Why are people so mean to the Irish? They have literally done nothing wrong go anyone.
The Irish invaded England and Scotland all the time back in the day. The Scots came from Ireland, they displaced the native Picts who used to live there.
Ian James
And even then having the "free state" allowed them to return to turbocuckery.
Juan Brooks
>The tour guide addressed this question and he said that major factor why people didn’t turn to the sea to solve the food shortage was because just a year or two before the famine began, Ireland and the UK was hit by an massive storm should've called it storm oliver
Jordan Brooks
The Gaels of Dál Riata merged with the Picts, it's not like a large contingent of Irish troops went and conquered Pictland to form Scotland. It's also not like Anglo-Saxons didn't raid Ireland from time to time.
Jonathan Thompson
>eating fish yuck!
Andrew James
The RA has always been there bud, we never left, were just waiting til the time is right
Leo Cooper
I beg to differ there
Brody Bennett
Thats actually fairly interesting. i never knew that.
Chase Carter
never knew how to fish either
Adam Miller
we couldve been better at that yes
Jordan Roberts
Racial theory in conjunction to their thinking that the Irish should be thankful for being subjugated
Nathan Johnson
>Homogenisation of world agriculture Didn't happen you utter imbecile. You could argue that the focus was put on crops Europeans preferred, but it wasn't like crops went extinct.
Nicholas Sanchez
>Irish people >Smart enough to gain power
They may breed like rabbits, but rabbits aren't the top of the food chain, are they?
Nolan Flores
its not true most of the country was turned into farmland, which is evident by the rolling hills that cover the country. People just like to say it was the british who cut down our forests
Carson Kelly
dance for me worm
William Diaz
thats what i thought from the beginning until seeing that. thanks for the clarification.
Caleb Sanders
They wanted the majority dead so they could use the land to feed themselves. Makes me laugh now how brits still think and hope that we are going to leave the EU and rejoin them.
Luke Perez
Actually it is true, before the plantations it was said a squirrel could walk from Dublin to Belfast without touching the ground.
1608 Philip Cottingham first surveys Ireland on behalf of the Crown, and again in 1623. His report states that the country is abounding in timber, mainly ‘noble oaks’ fit for shipbuilding.
1666 The Great Fire of London. After the London fire, a law is passed prohibiting the building of houses in Dublin from wood, which was, in any case, now scarce and expensive. The demand for Irish oak to rebuild London was very great.
The irish potato famine was mostly trying to get the Irish use money instead of exchanging goods for goods.
>1845 and still bartering.
It just took the Irish many years to understand they could exchange the time for money and the money for food. Very unfortunate situation.
Jacob Brown
>The demand for Irish oak to rebuild London was very great
Cooper Campbell
because like the scots and the welsh, they are a nation of cucks who got conquered.
Levi White
I'm not making excuses for the Norman invasion of Ireland, but it's just as annoying when micks act like Ireland was anything but a divided tribal shithole beforehand. Sorry guys but the Irish kingdoms weren't exactly sitting around a campfire singing kumbaya before the invasion and plantations
Nathaniel Flores
Oh look we have a brit expert on Ireland, sure to be enlightening
Anthony Rivera
Fuck off you retard. You ignorant literal bastard.
Chase Watson
how much do you actually know about pre-Norman or even post-Norman pre-Tudor Ireland
Angel Rogers
> why the British are so perfid ?
Do we really need an answer to that question ?
Joseph Green
Cracking argument.
Evan Young
I know that it was a territorial standoff between hundreds of kingdoms, who themselves were many of them descendants of invaders. What, do you guys think you're the result of an unbroken lineage dating back to the original Mesolithic hunter gatherers?
Logan Lewis
And nor were Amerindians when Columbus showed up for that matter.
Adam Allen
Bet you're from Dublin faggot
Cooper Taylor
>you will never run riot over Ireland with your best buds
Jaxson Rodriguez
>His report states that the country is abounding in timber, mainly ‘noble oaks’ fit for shipbuilding.
Mostly the English Oak, Quercus Robur. Ireland doesn't have a huge amount of biodiversity and only a small number of tree species are native to the island.
By the 18th century, Europe's forests outside of Scandinavia and Russia were mostly gone so the Royal Navy instead was built from North American timber.
Aaron Bailey
please post a video of you swimming into the middle of the a fucking ocean and catching fish with your bare hands, after working in a field all day I was going to add the concept of getting shot for stealing the Queen's fish but you'd know about that already.
Kayden Jones
Because Brits are actually scum. Worse than US. They're the reason we are what we are, and what we are is garbage.
Christopher Cook
you are a turd
Jackson Gonzalez
like just build an animal skin boat man
Jason Peterson
norman invasion of Ireland has little to do with anglo invasions in fact the normans became indistinguishable from the Irish with many Irish surnames actually being norman