Communism will be viable when our technology advances far enough. In a few decades you'll be BTFO Sup Forums...

Communism will be viable when our technology advances far enough. In a few decades you'll be BTFO Sup Forums, just wait and see.

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>what is human nature

excellent question

Technology can change human nature.

>what is social engineering and the rulers always ruling

got2 make that paper doe

When has it ever done that?

Communism can never work.

People need national capitalism.

What if the offer of every basic commodity becomes infinite?
Think Star Trek replicators.

Transhumanist, pls go

>there are limits to technology advances
lol

it hasn't happened yet in any meaningful way but it will. if you think our tech won't get that far you're nuts

Indeed. Then we can all be useless sacks of meat.
Technology will advance to the point to where we can all sit on a padded massage toilet in virtual reality, getting virtual reality blowjobs, being forcefed pizza hut by a machine 24/7.
Awesome!

k. keep me posted

I will believe it when I see it, until then you need to prove it.

Nope, fuck off.

What makes you the top strata of society won't just eliminate the dead weight?

you're the one that needs to prove technology has limits. all the evidence we have points to the opposite.

No, you are asking me to prove a negative. That is not how proving things works. Trust me, I know proofs.

I'm asking you to prove a positive. you're claiming there's a limit to tech. that is a positive.
I don't see how that's a relevant question

No, I am asking you to prove that technology can change human nature, something you have provided no proof for, instead relying on an empty statement. Provide proofs or fuck off.

my support for claiming tech will be able to change human nature is the evidence we have which points to tech not having any limits. if we can clone organisms, grow limbs, etc what makes you think human nature is outside of the limits of tech. NO LIMITS HAVE BEEN FOUND WE JUST KEEP PROGRESSING. throughout human history we've just been getting better and better at tech.

>my support for claiming tech will be able to change human nature is the evidence we have which points to tech not having any limits.
This is not proofs. Proofs is a positive in favour of a thing, you are not providing proofs in favour of this thing.

you know deep down in your heart that there are no limits. we have no proof of limits. none! COMMUNIST SOCIETY IN DECADES. it'll be viable when tech is capable enough!

That is not proofs. That is just feelings. Give proofs.

>I don't see how that's a relevant question

Looks like we got another useful idiot.

I'm sure you'll be one of the first to be culled by the automated drone extermination armies.

I just realized something. The butthurt ruskie is just mad that his country tried communism too early and because of the pain it had they will never try communism again! haha, in america we will try it once it's viable and we will succeed! no success for you ivan. you blew your load too soon!

I have gotten an absolutely staggering, mind-boggling amount of mileage out of this

I wonder why it is always so relevant

you clearly haven't read the thread. I do think communism has been tried. I just think it's not viable yet. our tech isn't advanced enough. one day it will be viable

Yeah they said that a hundred years ago.
Didn't work out that way.

nice revisionist history

Robots still can't work the market. Even if robots can provide us with all of the necessities, our desires will shift to other things. Things that require creativity. A lot of that creativity will also be directed towards the necessities as well, like better, tastier food or faster showers, or something, idk. But nobody can know what will be the most pressing problem to solve without the market. The market is just a way to guage what is the most valuable to society at any given time.

Who decides in a classless communist society what to produce and in which quantity? If someone actually does decide something then you dont have a classless society, because someone has more power over society than you.

>Become post scarcity
>Everyone becomes dependent on machines to do everything for them
>But those machines need to be manufactured, maintained, and developed
>People who enabled post-scarcity have absolute power because they'll take the technology hostage unless their demands are met

reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-crime-idUSKCN10S2I9

Venezuela crushes 2,000 guns in public, plans registry of bullets

They said that about industralization. When industralization ended the USSR had to live on the excess wealth generated by the industrialization just to not collapse which resulted in the eventual collapse of the USSR.


Automation will be similar, it'll greatly improve living conditions but won't be as efficient as capitalism and the economy will just collapse some years after full automation has reached its top.

Stop do not make another automation meme thread delete this now

Russia, you're arguing with one of the most blue pilled fuck heads out there. Even Anarcho-Capitalism has better dose age of the red pill. Stop trying.

I am sure that the niggers and mestizos that make up the absolute majority of americucks under age 25 will get right on that.

Hey ruskie bro, you can prove a negative.
For example,
(Pos)Triangles have four sides
(Neg) Triangles do not have four sides
(Pos)The first letter in Russia is Z
(Neg)The first letter in Russia is not Z

Obviously the negatives can be proven quite easily.

What you cant prove are negatives about some metaphysical/untestable things.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell
%27s_teapot

that was what i was trying to say

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

>1980s-2016 -- nothing but screen/entertainment technology
>we'll be so advanced we can transfer our consciousness to a robot i myself programmed

dude

>I don't see how that's a relevant question
The Great Leap Forward. The Holodomor.

Fucking look up some history you dumb cunt.

>Communism will be viable when
It'll be viable IF and only if there are only white people left. Every other race breeds too quickly and will cause eventual overpopulation, which will inevitably lead to starvation, as has always happened under every communist regime that has ever existed.

tl;dr You can only be a communist if you're also a nationalist and a racist, otherwise you're advocating genocide.

delete this now

>decades
lol

Try a couple hundred years, and you'll need a white planet to achieve that. Asians are whatever, but they'll focus on expansion, and eventually try to disrupt our society, so they need to go. Niggers take away from communist/socialist societies, but do not give back to them.

>people still believing this way

it blows my mind, really

you sad saps underestimate human intelligence
communism is inevitable

>people still believe 'current year' is an argument

it blow my cock, really

delete this NOW

Technology will make both Communism and Capitalism irrelevant. Post scarcity will just enable Libertarianism and people will do whatever the fuck they want. There wont be a need for enforced communism to ensure peoples survival.

you seem to be forgetting that only communism allows for people to seize the means of production. libertarianism and capitalism are immoral systems.

Yeah its going to work, for the ones making automation possible and the elites funding it, the poor ones will be left to starve and die just like nature wills it

well meme'd m8. the world isn't always changing, it isn't

yeah man, let's just throw away things backed up by science and fact in the name of feels

>communism: workers seize means of production
>post-scarcity: no need for workers anymore
???

who said anything about feelings?

is there any other reason to believe niggers are less intelligent?

you just don't get it

well they are, that's a sad fact of life. you're not getting my point

>Triangles have four sides
5 sides

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>you're not getting my point
You never made one. You literally only made the 'current year' argument. If you had a point, you forgot to type it out.

Believing that we can get rid of other races then? It's rather unlikely in our current state of affairs, but I think we could have if instead of fighting WW1, we had united our efforts, we could have wiped out all the asians, and continued our colonization efforts in South America, and Africa.

I can't really get your point if you're vague and don't actually state it.

As an intersectional feminist Berner who will be voting for Hillary in the general, this post really bothers me.

So it will be viable when its not longer needed because we'll be advanced thanks to capitalism? Kek check m8.

the dude is talking about genociding entire races. there's nothing wrong with that?

>this post really bothers me.
You're supposed to say something more like 'this post is problematic' when you're trolling. It's the false objectivism which triggers people.

>haha when everyone is brainwashed and can't disagree with what the brainwashers want the world will be perfect
communists everyone

i'm saying you're fucked in the head. are you dense?

>"No."

hahaha
This.

most germanic jaw line ever

Technology = communism. Say this here. For the sake of God tier technology BTFO this sort of misunderstandings that are nothing but bad everywhere.

Communism like what, the one that Marx described? Well, that one is pretty hard to happen exactly because the tecnology is advancing. With the automatization of the production there will be no workers to seize their work places.

They'll just be left to starve.

But it's probably that the government will end owning everything, we've seen the state growning more authoritary every year.

>the dude is talking about genociding entire races. there's nothing wrong with that?
No he isn't. He's simply bringing up the important truth that communism can only work in a white society with closed borders. If you have communism and an explosive birthrate, then millions of people will starve to death. This has happened many many times in only the last hundred years. We know this to be true.

That's why communism doesn't work, or more importantly, that's why you need to be nationalist and racist to rationally support the idea of communism.

Communism is a classless, borderless, moneyless, post-scarcity and worldwide society.

Venezuela is none of those.

>But it's probably that the government will end owning everything.
Actually this won't be communism either, because theres no state in commumism

Sùuuuuure keep crying about your feelings

if the working class becomes unnecessary then they'll be exterminated, not provided for

nice thought though

of course communism doesn't work, we weren't even talking about that.

>so they need to go.

Sounds like the world as envisioned in Star Trek.

>of course communism doesn't work, we weren't even talking about that.
Read the thread title you moron. You're the only person who isn't on topic. Maybe you've been posting in the wrong thread by accident?

It literally goes against natural selection and anyone who cheats the system has an advantage, which is why they always murder fucking everyone.

The wage slaves and other menial workers will be killed once the ruling class no longer needs them. The rest will essentially converted to serfs. Hope you can find a reason for them to keep you alive, bud.

Neofeudalism is coming, and it will be an ugly sight.

>c-communism will work someday...just you wait bourgeois scum!
Remind again why Marxism isn't considered a religious cult?

Don't use creepychan for evil.

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>there is something wrong with getting rid of bad things

Why?

Are you stupid? If you want humanity to advance, we need to make some cuts, and niggers just aren't worth keeping around.

I want normalfags to leave.

she's a marxist if you didn't know

If by Communism you mean Authoritarian Socialism, no it will never take off.
Free Market Socialism is the only Socialism that works.

Its called globalism. you are a globalist or you aren't and that will be WW3.

although im starting to think it will more likely be pockets of insurgency fighting against the massive super states of globalism.

>"off topic" discussions in threads that are off topic are banned

this post is funny. do you do this for free?

The USSR is to communism as gilded age America is to capitalism. In practice, neither ideology taken to its logical conclusion ends well for the majority of the populace.

>threads that are off topic
Communism is a political ideology. We're on Sup Forums. Hillary doesn't pay me as much as she should desu senpai.

I just came here for Allycat.
Original waifu do not steal pl0x.

Carry on.

Bullshit.

As a #1 fan of creepychan since 2006 you are factually incorrect.

Do not slander pure qt waifu pls.

back off I already claimed her

she's a marxist we've spent countless hours discussing it in irc over the past few years

we're not discussing communism. the only people discussing it support democide

Yeah just like 2 nukes stopped jih- err kamazaing Japs for their beloved Muha- err GOD Emperor! /thread
& yes communism works if literally all work or stuff that "seems" like work is AI automated.

I've been here longer than you

I-I don't believe you