monogamy vs polygamy
are we defying natural selection and creating feminism with monogamy?
what is Sup Forums stand on polygamy?
things to note:
>a large fraction of mammalsarepolygamous
>only the smartest and the wealthiest can feed their wifes and children
>means quality ofchildren (instead of quantity) means more smart dna
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>create lots of discontent betas
>beta revolution
Why do you think monogamy happend in the first place? You think all the alphas decided, hey I want less wives and power?
This gives women more power because they can still go after taken chads instead of staying in their rank. Don't fall for it.
There's an 80% chance that you will not be one of the men that benefits from this, and that is probably even higher considering that we're on Sup Forums.
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Whenever someone says they are polygamous it just means they have a cuck fetish.
Well first of all there are more women then men, in every country of the world. Second, by taking manlets/junkies/retards/autists/nu males out of the equation we'll have something like 2-3 women to one man, which is adequate for polygamy. Of course, the number of wives should be limited to four and not everybody needs several wives.
>cuck fetish
polygamy =/= swinging
1 guy, many girls.
Because monogamy is a way for prosperity. Check J.D. Unwin's work.
How do you counter the natural phenomenon of inevitable conflict between multiple women placed together who must share a common interest (the single husband)?
The world is better off with CEO Chad fucking a few mistresses on the side but being legally entangled with a wife, and everyone else pairing off. The alternative is a bunch of betas slaving away until they go all whatever that faggot's name was and shoot up a college.
Personally I'd rather avoid being shot by some desperate virgin.
Polygamy is for shitskins
this. If I had 10 nordic qts, some beta with nothing to lose would just randomly run me over with his car or kill me in some fashion. fuck that
Muh dik says polygamy but my brain says monogamy.
Also I can bet you money most of the posters against monogamy are women.
>have country with polygamy
>alpha hoard all good women
>more and more men get no pussy at all
>every man who doesn't have a wife is on the edge
>some little thing happens
>ALLAHU AHKBAR !!!!
you literally want to create the middle east. Well done france, well done
Go home, Churka.
Actually monogamy was invented by men because it favours the majority of men.
If you allow polygamy only the most successful men get to fuck and reproduce. It is very much like what we see in a promiscuous society. A small group of men get most women and most men miss out.
Monogamy mean only one woman per man allows other men to get women too.
Monogamy favors men.
Polygamy is the reason gangrape, sex slavery, covering women and having sex with young boys became a part of Islamic culture.
The majority of Islamic men wouldn't have a sexual partner at all because only the successful men get wives leaving no women for the rest of them.
It would be because you're black
Humans are a parasite.
End. Of. Story.
Well, my gf is bisexual, so a threesome would work pretty well.
Whatever makes you cum right?
Doesn't matter had sex?
Imagine if everyone in the world perpetually thought these things and how much better off we'd all be.
PLEASE REPLY! Let me put you in your place, again.
Is she bisexual or does she say she's bisexual to be cool and unique and lure in guys who imagine there will be an opportunity for sex with two girls at the same time but it never actually comes up?
There was a study that showed how monogamy benefits society. The idea is that if all men get a partner instead of a few men getting many partners, everyone is motivated to contribute to society.
I can't remember the name of the study though
The name of the study: my ass.
>polygamy
Polygamy = chaos and car-bombings. How about no.
Feminists love polygamy because they think it means they can all get the best guys regardless of their own lack of effort. Monogamy was a very deliberate attempt to reign in liberal sexual tendencies of both genders and create a more stable long term society where men weren't bashing each others skulls in as the only way to find a mate.
Natural selection on a sexual basis is meaningless for human progress. It doesn't favor intelligence or technology or anything besides your ability to kill the opposition. Subduing this drive was our greatest achievement and letting it resurface will destroy our old society.
You're all dissing polygamy because deep down you know you couldn't handle it
The mormons, who are one of the most peaceful offshoot of christianity practice polygamy, and they certainly don't look like degenerates
She really is. Her earlier relationship was with a woman and lasted about six years.
She's not a militant SJW and doesn't support mass immigration or out of control multiculturalism, so she's kinda great.
Polygamy would cause collapse of taxbase. There is no incentive at all for guys that can't get laid to work more than minimum needed to sustain themselves or to maintain society on any level. In the end that would lead to situation there wouldn't be volunteers or draftees for army willing to fight.
>T.Cuckload
6 years worth of wasted time and epic fails.
All or nothing, she's worthless now.
>means quality ofchildren (instead of quantity) means more smart dna
What ? It's degenerate, dumbass. Childrens need one mother and one father, otherwise girls will grow up as total sluts and boys as fucked up, heck they might even end up literally killing their father. Plus inbreeding between half-sisters and brothers is more likely to happen.
Polygamy is nigger tier, Monogamy + mistresses all the way.
So what you're saying is you haven't had sex with her and a second girl but you're still naively optimistic that it will happen because she told you about her super serious super cool and unique lesbian relationship.
Do you really think your gfs misguided degenerate past is something to brag about? I just feel sorry for you.
Actually, OP's point was not to ask whether it is good or bad for men but whether it is good or bad for society.
On this basis your arguments prove that monogomy is bad for society as it allow beta cucks to produce more beta cucks, thereby weakening the gene pool and hindering natural selection.
All women are bisexual, it's in their nature. We went out to hunt and they stayed in the cave and fiddled with each other.
It's not something we seek to do and it will most likely never happen anyway. We're monogamous and content with it. Just an idea.
>On this basis your arguments prove that monogomy is bad for society as it allow beta cucks to produce more beta cucks, thereby weakening the gene pool and hindering natural selection.
It would in theory provide better offspring, but at cost of collapse of society and collapse of society would cause collapse of technological progress.
Most societies that allow polygamy are either shitholes or countries that would be shitholes if those didn't have tons of natural resources. All polygamous societies also have massive inbreeding problems due to desire to keep property in family, so in practice it does the opposite of improving genepool.
If you think that's what I said then you completely missed the point.
Are you claiming that Islam is good for society?
The point was that polygamy doesn't mean "beta cucks" just cease to exist it just makes them even more bitter and prone to rape because they have absolutely no hope of ever getting a woman, resulting in women having to be completely covered else the beta cucks will get erect and start raping them. Resulting in gangs of betacucks roaming the streets molesting women. Resulting in beta cucks fucking boys. etc etc etc.
If you find that preferable to having a wife and kids and living in the suburbs among other men doing the same then I would have to say I totally disagree.
A polygamist society is even worse than a promiscuous society such as modern western culture in this regard because at least in a promiscuous society a beta cuck might accidentally have sex with a turbo slut or a fat chick or he may have the option to purchase sex from a prostitute hell the beta cuck might even end up prepping the bull or becoming a tranny or faggot but at least he is getting his dick sucked and leaving me and my wife alone.
>It would in theory provide better offspring
Would it? Look at the banker elite and high rank politicians best case is that they are sociopaths. If not they are psychopaths. DO you really want this traits to become more prominent in the human race?
Isn't that just counter feminism?
>beta uprising
Forcing women to hook up with betas is like forcing men to hook up with landwhales and ugly skits
Current year , love is love scro.
>>a large fraction of mammalsarepolygamous
You can sniff out a degenerate immediately when they try to compare humans to other animals. Who the fuck uses dogs an pigs as the standard for humans?
in a non monogamous society you will have endless frustrated men running rampage in your country because there are no women left -> see polygamous societies for prime examples of this
op here, thank you for make my point clear
>1 alpha (and succesful) male + 4 female = more then 4 alpha babies
>1 alpha male + 1 female = 1-2 alpha babies, while others female will be shared by beta male
>ie. 3 beta males + 3 female = 4 to 6 beta babies (well sometimes some can evolve/mutate into alpha babies)
and dont forget. this happen in animal kingdom, where evolution taking place
Believing in polygamy is almost as autistic as being an ancap.
Unless you somehow manage to create a society with a 3:1 male:female ratio it won't work.
If Polygamy was legal and widely accepted it would look like this.
>chads have 2-5 average/slightly above average wives, sometimes with some women bellow average for household chores
>better looking betas are lucky enough to have an average wife
>fat neckbeards do not marry at all, or sometimes get together with some landwhale
And here comes the point where western feminism kicks in. If men can have multiple wives, why can women have multiple husbands.
>8/10-9/10-10/10 women will have multiple husbands, mostly average betas
>5-7/10 women mostly either marry the very few lucky betas not getting cucked, or go for being one of the chads wife.
>3-5/10 women sometimes can land a desperate beta, or being a chads second class wife
>bellow 3 is mostly landwhales
That is pretty autistic idea. In real world in couple generations offspring of alpha will start fucking each other in polygamous society. Providing inbred offspring and in while hereditiary diseaces will become a serious issue.
Every society that practices polygamy are either shitholes or shitholes that are temporarily rich due to oil or other natural resource. Excess males in polygamous societies are timebomb waiting to blow up in one way or another.
This is world map where proportions have been edited based on scientific output of said society. Compare it to map of cousin fucking polygamous societies posted here . Those are essentially non existent when it comes to science for some reason. Science, culture and technology is where actual evolution happens.
MEMES > GENES.
>and dont forget. this happen in animal kingdom, where evolution taking place
Animals don't live in human society with culture, technology and actual understanding how shit like genes work.
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push betas too far into a corner = nothing to lose
why not snackbar the alpha
mine too. We had sex with her best friend (female) a few times. Best sex I had in my life tbqh
Legalize rape in wartime and you harness the beta to go out and fuck the world.
Polygamy is a tool for war not for stable socieity.
Exactly. And that sums Islam pretty good
Go live in your muslim shithole ahmed.
t. Algerian
another algerian scum
Cucks are more ((polyamory))
>this happen in animal kingdom
many animals also eat their childs
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If Sup Forums had it hard before getting women, bring polygamy back.
You may as well just make /r9k/ and Sup Forums into one board if that goes down.
No Ahmed. Stop trying so hard.
>beta please..
how can alphas and alpha's wifes society create betas?
Monogamy works best, that's literally why God mandated it. The only way polygamy works is in a society where the ratio between males and females is really low, making it necessary to have multiple wives.
Inbreeding and fact that every single son after first one in every family will be betas.
>beta
>beta
>beta
>everywhere
>there is no incentive at all for guys that can't get laid
then what? all the girls belong to alpha bosses, and their alpha children will rule the world (thats an evolution)
>Everyone who disagrees with me is a beta
is not an argument friend.
Fucking this. The way alphas kept the unwashed betas in check was to throw them a bone and promote monogamy so that they at least have a chance of surviving in the gene pool. And now those same betas are getting salty because they demand top tier wives like the alphas. What ungrateful assholes.
Monogamy is a sign of social and environmental stability. The only time a creature reproduces with many women is when their children are dying before reaching maturity.
Organisms that have seen stability for long enough periods would eventually adapt to monogamous lifestyles leading to behavioral advancements that don't revolve around survival and replication.
Polygamy is basically claiming to be no better than an insect or African, but it sure is fun to act like an animal sometimes.
>polygamy
Doesn't make much sense without significant surplus of women.
You described the US with the first block.
Countries that practice polygamy are all either shitholes or sources of natural resources with next nothing in any sector of economy other than resource extraction.
Betas are ones that uphold the society and invent shit.
On societal level the polygamous alpha countries have had their shit fucked up by beta societys for last couple centuries with pretty much no exception.
>then what? all the girls belong to alpha bosses, and their alpha children will rule the world (thats an evolution)
If society becomes unstable it's almost certain that it leads to devolution since polygamy leads to inbreeding and stagnation of technological and cultural development.
Technological, scientific and cultural evolution are more important than genetic evolution. None of those can happen in unstable society.
Given the flag, it's probably shitskin I'm arguing with.
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Oh man. Get better. I had no idea.
DONT
FUCKING
DO
IT
ITS A TRAP
It's either nature or civilization. Pick one. If you want to go back to mud huts, then sure. Emulate nature and go back to it. That's where we're headed anyway.
>only the smartest and the wealthiest can feed their wifes and children
Smart people are having less kids than idiots, and they have them later in life which means that in many case their kids have poor health.
Monogamy is indeed unnatural, but it best fits the society we have.
The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said that muslims can have up to 4 wives. 4 wives are no probem but when it gets more then you are unjustful to your brothers in faith (hence it's forbidden) and there is the fact that only rich people can have many wives, so normal men can only dream. Mashallah and Allah knows best.
t. Sheikh Abdul al Almani
This is hilarious.
I believe it's more as a:
push betas too far into the corner = fuck everything i won't contribute to the society
Aka, economy will collapse.
oh boy that poor fool. He shouldve just beat that dyke to a pulp and leave his gf. seriously.
Pottery.
>and creating feminism with monogamy?
Wait, I thought we were angry because feminism destroyed monogamy.
2deep4me kanye
this is where things are headed (see: recent "development" in US "marriage")
Wan't the original point of pairing up so that while one half of the pair is pregnant to where they're incapacitated, the other half is free to leave and get food?
>Not an alpha by the book
This is the internet and I could be a dog, so beleave me or not.
But... I fuck 5 BDSM bitches every few weeks and have 2 'normal' relationships on top.
Honestly I thought more then once just to convert... cause people get real judgy if you suggest marrying more than one women.... also financially or lig. problematic...
Do you think that if we just gave up and went muslim we could play the religion card to have my two cuties in burcas?
Monogamy was invented by many civilisations in order to bring stability. Polygamy leads to social unrest, see the Middle East for how that turns out for you.
You are a cuckold.
This pretty much. And all of the men I've met who are in favor of polygamy are pretty much the same as all the men I've met who are in favor of anarcho-capitalism. They don't realize they're fantasizing about a world in which they're the bottom rung.
People long for radical change to a more competitive market, be it for sex or power, are vastly more likely to be society malcontents who can't compete in today's market. Thus the fast food workers and the incels think anarcho-polygamy would magically make them feudal lords with harems because I suppose every man's a king in his own imagination.
kek
This. Monogamy is the foundation of civilization. People who argue for polygamy might as well be arguing for incest, pedophilia, raping and pillaging the neighborhood across from yours etc.
Arguing we should do something because we used to do it for much of our history is beyond retarded.
Checked out the wikipedia page. The West is fucked. Islam and China are going to take over.
They only brought in the practice of polygamy because so many men would die on the frontier leaving their wife with no provider. The solution was for widows to remarry a successful man but they already had families so they just said "ok, men can marry multiple women"
Women don't choose their men properly, because we live in this modern civilization. They are brainwashed more than anyone with stupid humanitarism. Strenght, dedication, and loyalty, don't mean anything for them, because in fact, those are not an advantage in this modern civilization.
They take contraconceptive pills, fucking up their hormonal system and their "female radar", so even their instincts make them choose the wrong men.
Thanks to this contraconceptive industry, porn is possible, and serves as a tool to modify the sexuality of a entire society.
The only good thing to do is to return to nature.
"It has been left to the very latest Modernists to proclaim an erotic religion which at once exalts lust and forbids fertility"
Gilbert K. Chesterton
Polygamy is pretty great.
That problem could be solved by just having more female babbies. We're not cavemen, we have technology.
>That problem could be solved by just having more female babbies. We're not cavemen, we have technology.
Not an solution if you want to have technology continue developing. Most women just can't hack engineering and science.
Nah it was so joseph smith could bang multiple woman in a prude society without the hassle.
Monogamy results in that all children have a father and a mother resulting in more investing in the siblings. Reduces infighting between a group and all the time spent in searching females is put in other productive things.
>Nah it was so joseph smith could bang multiple woman in a prude society without the hassle.
Early mormon history contains plenty of violence. Instigated both by mormons and everyone else. When there is religiousn violence, it's usually men and older almost adult boys that get killed.
My sister married a guy 5 years ago, had a baby with and divorced him. The guy worked at walmart minimum wage, was dumb as rocks, bipolar and didnt have all his teeth. He also had other kids from previous women. Its all in your heads. If he can do it so can you.. or maybe not, maybe youre retarded beyond all things retarded. Also, he was a 5'5 skinny manley that looked like an aids ridden ted cruz
I don't understand why you sister married him in first place...
probably because she doesnt live in Sup Forumss fantasy world where all women go for 10/10 chads and large black men.
My other sister is a gold digger though, first married a rich tech guy and now a millionair surgeon.
You queers just have to skim through until you find something.
