Thoughts, Sup Forums?

Thoughts, Sup Forums?

Occupy Avengers Writer David Walker on Hawkeye and Police Brutality

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I guess Hawkeye is a good character to use. He's very anti-authoritarian.

I'll repeat my thought from another thread

>Super heroes -- they're a privileged class. Doing what they want, when they want and suffering no consequences. They have no regard for the ordinary people who are left behind to suffer in their wake. Who will stand up for the little guy?

I actually find this kind of insulting. This writer is basically calling every hero in the MU a selfish asshole that doesn't care about normal people.
HEROES SAVE EVERYONE ALL THE DAMN TIME.
Who exactly are these "ordinary people who are left behind to suffer in their wake"?
Heroes risk their lives saving civilians, defeating bad guys and stopping threats that would hurt society. How is defeating the Red Skull and Kang the Conqueror not something that helps civilians? What exactly is Hawkeye and his band of hippies gonna do differently?

Love the the muslim in the background, very topical.

>purple arrow

Sorry, unless you fight evil boss who's mansplaining, you're doing it wrong.

They put Chi-Chi in charge of writing Avengers.

Why do SJW writers go to Marvel instead of DC? I mean I've seen some in DC, but Marvel have magnitudes more. Just like how a writer made the two OC characters in Homecoming into MJ and Flash.

>What exactly is Hawkeye and his band of hippies gonna do differently?

What the left does best; bitch about everything on preceived higer ground because tough choices have to be made and reality isn't a tv-episode of MLP.

Didn't DC already do this back in the 1970s?

In all honesty, Superheroes have been getting away with working independently with little to no rules for quite some time now, often working through their own codes with little to no respect for the law. Perhaps some sort of regulation or registration on Superheroes are in order?

>Why do SJW writers go to Marvel instead of DC?
It's not so much as the writers are SJW, so much as the fact that marvel's tells writers to simply write for shock value and nothing else. Remember they follow the doctrine of angry fans = sales

That is true, anger at least give some return, apathy is death.

Nighthawk has been too much on the nose and im fearing this one will too.

No
Marvel is completely run by SJWs
Marvel shuns writers and artists that aren't SJWs
Marvel staff believes their own bullshit

Civil war much?

This issua has already been dealt with.

I think that's the joke.

Some of them certainly do, at the very least.

Aren't they like 5 years too late to cash in on that buzzword?

It's a joke. Blatantly so.

If they dont put a depowered x-men in this I will be upset

Especially since it appears they won't actually be going after Wall Street, but after the Boss Hogs of the flyover states.

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>Marvel is completely run by SJWs
No it's not, it's run by people looking to make a buck.

The staff maybe, but they're hired by the editors who just wanna make fans angry.

How would that fix this absurd "superheroes don't care about the little guy" scenario?

Who ever it's run by they certainly don't care about quality.

Forcing them to care by rule of law and making them act as if they did care through careful guidelines and strict consequences for violating them.

But that's not what this book is about, this book is a rehash of the Green Arrow 70s books by having Hawkeye and his merry men fight against Boss Hog and corrupt local governments that have unsafe water.

Yeah cause that's what Superheroes need--Bureaucracy!

Superheroes make The law obsolete.

>"My favorite heroes were men, and that's men's fault"
Salt incarnate.

And people say superheroes aren't fascist.

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Hawkeye should deal with the fact that a minority is causing the majority of crime. He should occupy the ghetto and stop black men from killing other black men if he really had a heart. Gangster culture is to blame here. Once he fixes them he can move on to white trash meth heads.

Lets drop the Sup Forumstalk and lets just guess who are the other members shall we ?

>Thoughts, Sup Forums?
Marvel thinks a "Man of the People" is a white guy who gets away with murder because they thought the colored guy would kill a bunch of white people.

Also, they're years behind when the occupy movement was relevant.

Also, literally pic.

I am with her ?

Speaking of police brutality, didn't Hawkeye just fucking murder Bruce Banner?

That's the complete opposite of fascism.

Tony, please. Some of these guys are literal gods and some even go farg beyound that.

What's the Marvtel equivalent of green lantern?

Occupy fucked up when they believed some politicians were going to side with them against Wall St. And never let anyone take the leadership mantel and just shouted down and destroyed those that tried.

FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nova Corps. Richard Rider primarily and not that sad dead son self insert.

The Sup Forumstalk is unavoidable since Marvel keeps making political statements and stances in their comic. For some you would separate the two, but some instances are way to intertwined.

That's purple, not blue. Get with it, man.

>Soon as I get paid as much as your father

Guess they both do the same job then.

Clint is literally George Zimmerman.
>goes after a guy because he thinks he's up to no good
>kills him because he fears for his life
>exonerated in court

It's okay, he's not the police. Just enforcing his own moral judgement by force.

If anything Superheroes are anti-fascist because they don't give up their authority to the state.

I don't know if the mother is supposed to protest in the 50s-60s or 90s-00s. How old is she anyway, the comic gives of the impression that she's in her twenties.

Helped out IE be a cop.

Yea try that in a black neighborhood and see what happens, asshole.

Its just nonsensical bullshit just to setup her point. Its a very bad issue.

it's impossible to avoid politics while talking marvel. it's not my fault that I don't like pseudo-progressives

It tackles some hard hitting issues in today's world, though.

Fuck off, enough with farming the x-men. Let this shit flop

BUT WHAT ABOUT CORGIS?

Cool, yet another Marvel superhero comic that eschews superheroics to bash you over the head with lefty politics or politics in general.

They might as well rename themselves to Agitprop Comics.

Gotta love a bullshit strawman argument.

The writer really did sneak this in twice. Lmao

And none of those girls care about Shitbird.

I mean, that's the kind of way these jokes work. Someone makes a reference to something happening/not happening in the wider public, then we get a background shot later of it happening in the wider public.

It's just also a very politically tinged and kind of forced reference.

Comics have always leaned left in the political sense but there has been a major uptick in the last couple of years. Anyone wanna chime in on why that's the case?

>Slott making Peter a brilliant scientist that owns a company and masquerades as a bug themed superhero like Blue Beetle.
>Walker making Clint a blonde blue eyed Robin Hood style defender of the downtrodden with a bow and arrow like Green Arrow.
The trend of writers changing Marvel characters because they can't write their DC counterparts lives on to this day.

Do you think we can maybe talk about the comics instead?

So which writer will preemptively put Hillary in as Marvel President?

They are narrative barren and need to play to the cheap seats.

But the comic IS about the politics! THAT'S THE POINT! If you want to talk about the comics, and not politics, don't make comics about politics. It's that simple

Because it's what the kids are doing.

Marvel is leftists, but normally it's spread out too thin to draw special attention to and often is very benign, but once in a while a book comes along which concentrate it all in once issue.

Mockingbird did this and Early Jane-Thor certainly had issues with this. I can almost certainly predict this will too.

Whos going to take Roy place

No fuck you buddy. I'm tired of Sup Forums going off on poltical diatribes and not even bothering to talk about the actual comic.

I used to be left-wing as a teenager, but the more obnoxious left become, the more point right-wing started to have. I didn't have problem with respecting people, until they decided to stop respecting me

And here issue 8 cover.

What's name of that other Hawkeye? Kate? Her.

If the comic is about politics, what people are supposed to talk about? Ponies?

It's a combination of the current zeitgeist of neo-leftists and the movies showing that there's potential for getting new blood in so they try to cater to what they think that crowd wants. This leads to moral high standing from a left position.

Sounds like Kate is gonna become a junkie.

Yeah Kate doing meth instead of heroin

Doesn't even faze me anymore after girl Thor.

They can talk about what happened in the comic and what might happen next.

Maybe it's will be a breaking bad issue so this comic can keep being so relevant.

Yes, and what happened in the comic has a political undertone. Like when Red Skull recruits fanatics. It's unavoidable. If the comic would be about genocide (like X-Men), would you be angry if people started talking about Apartheid?

It's poltical but it's not about politics.

Social media has allowed the fringe left ideas normally contained in academia to spread all over.

Kate Screaming Bitch every issue 4.99$.

Does Hawkeye have any leg to stand on after he murdered Banner?

#2 Inhumans vs X-Men tie-in.

How do you want to discuss something political without giving your opinion about politics?

>Had their own nation multiple times
>Still fucked it all up

Some point you just can't help a people.

Also any talk of Apartheid can't be more hamfisted and the Deus Ex.

>Showing amazing invention to a home-ec teacher
Y O U P L A Y E D Y O U R S E L F

>Vigilante white man hunts unarmed man of color and shoots him with bow'

No. Marvel is terrible at atempting to market to the SJW crowd. I mean look at the new "Black Female Iron Man" that bendis named after the female iron man in a japanese rape porno.

They just paste SJ shit on without actually making any effort, and hope the controversy will get them sales, and to be fair that sometimes works.

Oh yeah that

And I cannot tell if this is supposed to be played for laughs about her being a bit of a ditz or not. Damn that comics tone is uneven as much as its "message".

>hamfisted
bingo! which is the point, if you don't want have a hamfisted discussion, don't make hamfisted political stance. Notice that a lot of people who complain don't have problem with old comics.

It's a modern problem, when the writers aren't literate enough to write a coherent STORY, and instead create a juvenile manifest

How old is Bobbi supposed to be? I doubt Spider-Man was active when she was a kid.