Suicide squad

Why are people trying to pretend Suicide Squad wasn't successful?

>Iron Man - Budget: $140 million, Total Domestic Gross: $318 Million

>Iron Man 2 - Budget: $200 Million, Total Domestic Gross: $312 Million

>Captain America: Budget:$250 Million, Total Domestic Gross: $176 million

>Winter Soldier: $170 Million, Domestic Gross: $259

>Suicide Squad: $175 million, Domestic Gross after 4 weeks: $275 million


>Guardians of the Galaxy, Reported budget: $170 Million

>"In January 2015, Disney revealed that the film came in "slightly over the agreed budget" at $232.3 million, with Disney receiving a rebate of $36.4 million from the British government. It was previously estimated to have hada $170 million budget."

>Actual Budget: $195.9 Million, Final Domestic Budget: $333 Million

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I don't give a fuck about WBs bottomline. It wasn't good.

but it was

Deadpool > Squad > CW >BvS

that movie was dumb but it was a lot of fun. saw it with my little brother and I would totally watch it again. the villain at the end was trash tho

That's actually fucking perfect.

It wasn't.

It was.

David Ayer said Suicide Squad's budget was higher than 250 million, AKA, the development was more expensive than BvS'
BvS made 870 million, and it made WB get entirely restructured.

It was absolutely boring, you can see which scenes where reshot, and how the movie originally barely had any humor.
It's just a forgettable movie in general where nothing interesting happens.

I can't believe you fags think the movie with the worst aspects of both DCEU and MCU flicks is somehow better than anything. It was objectively a garbage film with execs' slimy fingerprints in it's every orifice and no amount of money made back by the hot topic meme loving Harley x Joker

no he didn't

>Make like a DCEU civilian

didn't the MCU blow up an entire country and then claim that like 1000 people died?

Those movies are made for literal retards, user

This.
BvS was much better than SS.

Well, Sup Forums, has there ever been a movie as hyped and marketed as SS?

Remember how when this movie came out everybody said it wasn't going to have a big opening? Then after it did, everybody said it would have a drop and nobody would ever see it and it wouldn't make money?

Now it's been the #1 movie in the country for four weeks straight and everybody is just licking their wounds and trying to meme accountant their butthurt away.

hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa no

No, the opposite.
DC movies have big ass openings and then have no legs to stand on.
587 million for Suicide Squad?
The movie that every normie was crazy for?
Barely beating fucking Ant-Man?
That's not good at all.

Marvel has conditioned audiences to eat up capeshit no matter how bad it is. DCucks should be thanking them.

Whether you liked it or not isn't the issue here though. People have been pushing the narrative that it flopped when it didn't.
Then you have completely delusional shit like this post :
It's like when things don't turn out how people wanted they make up their own fanfiction

>having a shit opinion

They don't flop, but they are heavy underperformers.

Problem is DC movies are great until they come out.

They are MGSV over and over.

Yes, for retards and not us INTELLECTUALS who love ham fisted biblical imagery, regular slow-mo shots, even shittier writing, terrible casting, and an at best loose understanding of the characters they suppose to portray.

MCU may pander to low brow normies, but the DCEU is being managed by literal retards both on set and in suits. It's like comparing a Nick Jr. show to a YouTube vid made by an 8 year old.

>trying this hard

>It's just a forgettable movie in general where nothing interesting happens.

Funny as there have been constant threads about SS since it opened with people either complaining about what they did not like or talking about what they did. If it were so "forgettable" we wouldn't be constantly having threads about it.

>They don't flop, but they are heavy underperformers.

It didn't flop and it didn't under perform either. Deal with it.

Of course because this is a comic board with people who spend years and years looking forward to these movies, they are going to be more passionate about it, but what I saw on the screen was just boring, even Joker dissapointed me because the memes already made me ready for Shadow the Hedgehog-tier edgy Joker, and in the end he didn't do too much.

fuck, i love reading asshurt mouseketeers. Makes my day.

It's still a shit film, deal with it.

>it didn't underperform
>all the hype, all the marketing
>barely beating Ant-Man

Mediocre box office for a mediocre capeshit movie.

Oh please. Suicide Squad practically fails on premise alone. Why organize a team of unstable people for the sake of having people with superpowers if no one on the team has powers that are particularly worthwhile besides Enchantress (and MAYBE Diablo)? This sort of thing works in comic books but with the world an the tone they set up questions are bound to be raised as to why ANYONE was even there and the movie didn't have much for answers except for Harley Quinn's ridiculous unexplainable hypercompetence. Also it sucked at juggling the cast and even the two that it did focus on had shit character arcs. "This morning we were just a bunch of murderous psychopaths but now, 8 hours later, we're family." Fucking really? And then there was the "heart" of the story which made me wonder why I should give a shit about either of them.
Honestly, it was a pretty entertaining movie that manages to fail on nearly every level. I don't know why anyone would bother watching it again. Without the support of novelty its just not good.

The worst part was probably how much emphasis they put in
>REMEMBER THAT WE ARE THE BAD GUYS

And in the end it was just another superhero movie about beating the big bad.

What I still don't understand is why that 6000 year old god died to a breach charge.

Here you are still defending this garbage. You have my pity user.

Yeah but what was the last Civil War thread here? I can't remember.

Also Joker was in like 15 minutes of the movie with most of his shit cut and he isn't any more "edgy" than any other version of the Joker. In fact it was well established that he did a bunch of shit comic Joker had done in past stories like Killing Jason Todd for example so i guess that the Joker is just an "edgy" character in general

whats it like to sit on stan lees lap?

Ant-Man
>Budget: $130 Million
>Domestic Gross: $180

Are you living in a fantasy world?


>and then have no legs to stand on.
forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/08/25/box-office-suicide-squad-is-now-leggier-than-batman-v-superman/#166d5ce3178f
>But here’s the rub: there is a good chance that Suicide Squad will be almost as leggy as Captain America: Civil War, which earned $407.7 million from a $179m debut. That 2.275x multiplier for Civil War is noteworthy in that it was the least leggy MCU movie thus far.

>Suicide Squad will be almost as leggy as Captain America: Civil War

Jesus man, I've never seen someone be more wrong.


You know, BvS was a deconstruction of The Dark Knight Returns. And I've had a lot of conversations with friends about that. Not about the biblical imagery (btw Lex literally compares him to Apollo, and the only jesus scene in BvS is his death, so its really just sun god comparisons but okay).


BvS gives me something to chew on, it stayed with me. The Marvel movies didn't. You can enjoy them all you want, but stop being butthurt about other people preferring other movies.

If the movie was so "garbage" and "forgettable" why do you people keep posting in threads about it? I'll tell you why, you're asspained console warriors mad because a film not part of your precious Disney corp's catalogue actually did well.

Why are you trying so hard to push this thread into console wars?
You are the only ones mentioning Marvel movies.

>Yes, for retards and not us INTELLECTUALS who love ham fisted biblical imagery
>and an at best loose understanding of the characters they suppose to portray.

You didn't watch SS.


We should settle our differences the Marvel way.

>the Joker is just an "edgy" character in general

Ding ding ding!

btw Batman is edgy too

>BvS gives me something to chew on
No, it's a dumb superhero movie about magic guys beating monsters, there's nothing to chew on.

They will never be deep, they will never deliver any message, they will never be anything than cash-grabs.

People online talk about The Room and Sharnado more than they do with Citizen Kane or Space Odyssey, so what's your point?

Nice cars get looks but everyone stops to see an accident.

>Why organize a team of unstable people for the sake of having people with superpowers if no one on the team has powers

Amanda Waller says that they're assembling a team of specialists, not just metas. She literally says as much when she introduces Boomerang.

>except for Harley Quinn's ridiculous unexplainable hypercompetence.

Oh look, another triggernigger that didn't watch the movie pissed off that a character is popular

>Yeah but what was the last Civil War thread here? I can't remember.

I don't know, what does it have to do with this?

>Also Joker was in like 15 minutes of the movie with most of his shit cut and he isn't any more "edgy" than any other version of the Joker. In fact it was well established that he did a bunch of shit comic Joker had done in past stories like Killing Jason Todd for example so i guess that the Joker is just an "edgy" character in general
He's an edgy character, but in another way.

This Joker tried pandering to the ''lolsuchanerdxD'' audience, and it ended up being nothing but fluff.

That's what SS is, it's just so weak and dull.

Hollywood math.
Plus apparently they wasted like half the Nation's budget on reshoots or some shit which is why they need to make a billion dollars.

Lol, why so mad?

Its literally a deconstruction of The Dark Knight. Batman is the reactionary stooge, protecting the status quo while not trusting Superman's motives. And ultimately Superman sacrifices himself so that Batman is redeemed.


In The Dark Knight, Superman is the reactionary, protecting the status quo, while not trusting Batman's motives. And then Batman dies (and also comes back later, just like Superman will) so that Superman can be redeemed.

What's it like to choke on Snyder's cock?

Civil War is a forgettable movie

No, that would imply dumb superhero movies can deconstruct anything, which they can't because they have simple plots for kids, AKA their audience.
Even the title ''BATMAN VS SUPERMAN'' is so goddamn childish.

You know Space Odyssey AND Citizen were critically panned when they came out?


Also I see plenty of people talking about them online, try going to better websites.

shows how much you payed attention, it was Batman V Superman.


Also thats not even an argument, I literally told you how its a deconstruction and you are just like NOPE

Eh, I'm done with this. You are just gunna keep doubling down. You win this internet argument :^)

The fact that people discuss SS in here is proof of how bad the movie is.

Sup Forums always prides itself on having shit taste on anything related to superhero crap.
Legitimately surprised people here don't like neo-Marvel's comics considering the stuff I see here constantly.

How long have you been here? DCEUfags always push console war shit because it detracts from any discussion with valid criticism. You cant even tell whats delusion or shitposting anymore. Im not saying SS flopped, but it did ok with ZERO competition. And theres no reason why BvS shouldnt have printed money, thats how much of a fuckup this entire thing is. I want good DC movies, but the foundation theyre built on is fucked

Sorry, not a fan of GotG or most Marvel films. How about I say my mother's name it hope it's the same as yours instead? That wraps up conflict amazingly well.

It's not because it's a fact that horrible superhero movie attempts to do nothing.
It's a dumb superhero movie building up sequels with the end of making mo9ney.

It wasn't a flopped, but Wonder Woman certainly will.
I mean, BvS and SS got underwhelming box offices with literally no competition, and WW is going against 2 movies of franchises that have broken the 1 billion barrier more than once.

...

cinemablend.com/new/4-Big-Reasons-Ant-Man-Should-Considered-Success-72685.html

>After the opening weekend box office numbers came in for Marvel’s latest superhero flick, Ant-Man, it seemed like the massive franchise had taken a hit. The tiny superhero brought in a tiny number compared to its Avenger friends. But, despite a low box office showing, the movie still took number one seat over the weekend. When comparing Paul Rudd’s Ant-Man to other players in the MCU, he may seem like a huge flop at first glance. But, in reality, the film was actually a great success for the world’s mightiest franchise, and there are four big reasons why.

forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2015/07/20/ant-man-is-no-more-a-flop-than-was-the-wolverine/#15a3c94834af
>Consider this a preemptive defense, just in case the meme takes hold that Ant-Man is somehow a failure for Marvel and a sign of long-term peril and despair. It’s not. Yes, it’s easy to look at Ant-Man‘s $58 million weekend and see cracks in the armor. The film survived a troubled production and weathered indifferent buzz and ended up with the second lowest debut in Marvel history (behind The Incredible Hulk‘s $55m bow back in 2008), and the lowest when adjusted for inflation and the like.

Because it is console wars. I see the same kind of delusion, and salt as i see whenever a console one faction doesn't like does well, or a game flops on a not well liked console and one fanbase celebrates it.

Like when rotten tomatoes came out and all the Chris Evans laughing gifs. Then when the movie didn't flop as people wanted the damage controlling , meme accounting and constant thread telling us all that SS was the worst thing ever started.

Actually it's not just console warriors. I see a lot of salt about this movie from Critics over people not listening to them and going to see it anyway and SJW's buttblasted that Ghostbusters flopped and this didn't, Ghostbusters wont see a sequel and this movie will.

MCUck, please go.

>Amanda Waller says that they're assembling a team of specialists, not just metas. She literally says as much when she introduces Boomerang.
Not even the point. Most of those "specialists" are feasibly rendered useless by and military special forces team and even if they are really really good why even risk it? They're not supposed to be traced back to being used for shady US operations? Then find third parties. Wipe identities. They weren't even used for a mission that particularly needed them. Just send some soldiers. Which they did. The premise and the plotline were an ill fit here.

>Oh look, another triggernigger that didn't watch the movie pissed off that a character is popular
??? I don't know what you're accusing me of. Of course Harley is in the movie cause she's popular but that brings pretty much the same problems as what I just explained.

Nah, the DCEU's days are counted.

>Pirates of the Caribbean sequel
>Bad Boys 3
>Kingsman 2
>Cars 3
>No confirmed WW rogues (Ares rumored, but no confirmation)
>WB likely to edit it to hell and back
Yeah its fucked. Which is a real bummer because you just know Marvel is going to make Captain Marvel and people will adore it.

You forget Transformers 5, comes out a week after WW.

To add to that, Movies like The Warriors and A Clockwork Orange were as well. Now they are considered cult classics.Funny how that works.

>People online talk about The Room and Sharnado more than they do with Citizen Kane or Space Odyssey, so what's your point?

No they don't. Also nobody talks about SS like it's Citizen Kane either. Even the people who enjoyed it acknowledge it's a very flawed movie but still manages to be entertaining.

The thing is YOU people are claiming people say that when they are not and that Hyperbole comes from you not being able to except that people enjoyed something that you did not.

Something that infuriates me about the DCEU is that most of the flaws these movies have are all because of atrocious editing caused by executive meddling, and yet, when the critics shit on them, they put the director and the actors on the line of fire, trying to justify a fuck up some retard in a suit did.

>The fact that people discuss SS in here is proof of how bad the movie is.

Oh so nobody ever talks about MCU movies not because they are largely forgettable, but they are so good that...you still forget the? I'm sorry what point were you making again?

>Suicide Squad has made more than The Winter Soldier

xD

Great argument

In your delusions i bet they are.

I saw the Ultimate Cut user. The editing defense can't save you this time.

You literally made that up, Odyssey had a mixed reception at worst due in part to some critics seeing a heavily edited version of the film, while Kane had mostly positive reviews. And by "better sites" you mean cherry picking ones that see far less traffic than the one where people are more active? If Jaws 3 hasn't become a classic by now, then BvS and SS have no chance.

I wouldnt be surprised if WB pushed back the released date. The deck is stacked against it sadly given the time window

The sorceress was kinda weird and boring. You could tell it had undergone some significant reworks. Harley and Joker weren't as cancerous as they could have been.

I liked it more than Thor and Age of Ultron

Oh no, BvS has more issues like the retardation of Martha, which is a nice concept of ''DUDE, SUPERMAN GREW HERE, HE'S A HUMAN TOO'', but the execution was horrible.

Zack Snyder reminds me of Hideo Kojima.
He's a nice ideas guy, but the execution is mostly awkward and sometimes downright bad.

>Domestic gross

I think the perfect analogy is that it's like a socially retarded NEET trying to tell a joke to a bunch of people.

Specialist is used loosely, it means she wants people with "experience". Waller realized whenever mundane forces go up against Metashit one of two things happens, they die or sit patiently with their thumbs squarely up their assholes until a hero fixes it. The villains were the only characters that could actually trade blows with heroes meaning they're slightly better off than regular cops and soldiers, even if all they really did is get punched by Flash. Scrapping together the SKWAD was really all they could do to be proactive, atleast in Waller's fucked up sensibilities.

Any other time you'd be meme accounting to tell us that Worldwide Box Office doesn't count because foreign distributers take a cut, but when your favorite movie gets its shit pushed in then suddenly it does?

lol, ok.

MCU Threads
>Ranging from Thor 2 "who cares" shit to "hey that was kind of fun"
>Memes
>Normal bitching about source material
>Move on after a month, cycle repeats when new movie comes out
DCEU Threads
>Rampant shitposting
>M-Marvel bias!
>You dont read comics
>Minor praise about certain costumes
>Essays
>Never. Moving. On.

So you're saying that Marvel is good because their movies are forgettable and not memorable?

>Oh no, BvS has more issues like the retardation of Martha, which is a nice concept of ''DUDE, SUPERMAN GREW HERE, HE'S A HUMAN TOO'', but the execution was horrible.

But... that is wrong. That scene was about how Batman was turning into Joe Chill.

Marvel fags make more DCEU threads than DC fags do.
>Still have MOS threads years after it was in movies
>Noody talks about Civil War and it just came out.

Not that it's any surprise. Most forget MCU movies as soon as they end.

Bad movies are often more memorable than good ones.

Where exactly are you getting that from?
Not necessarily there's tons of bad movies I've forgotten. I've watched countless SyFy movies can't really remember them apart from there's bad CGI in them.

>Where exactly are you getting that from?

Batman in BvS had lost hope in heroism - the opening scene with Batman narrating about the beautiful lie was about this - and thought that Superman was or would eventually become an even worse version of who he was: a naive guy playing hero while fucking things up for everyone around him that would one day wake up to the reality of it all.

Basically, Batman let cynicism, fear and hatred cloud his heart.

The "Martha" scene was about Batman seeing him own father, Thomas, in Superman's visage and realizing that instead of Superman turning bad, it was himself that had become his worst nightmare: the man who killed his parents.

The whole movie is about Batman becoming a villain and then being redeemed by Superman valor. It's not so much about Superman being a hero, but rather about Superman being a selfless hero.

I literally can't remember a single thing about any of the Iron Man movies or Avengers.

>It's not so much about Superman being a HUMAN

Fix'd.

>Batman turning into Joe Chill
DO PEOPLE REALLY NOT KNOW THE POINT OF JOE CHILL?

Kek if you try to say this on the comicbookcast group in Facebook the admin (most likely fucking Armin, a well known Marlel Cuck) says shit like:
"Well no shit a movie with fucking Joker, Harley Quinn and Batman is going to make money, but its making the money IT SHOULD be able to, so its still a failure, now excuse me while i shove more Marlel dvds up my ass".

Yes, a random act of violence. I'm just saying that Batman realized what he was about to do and how that reminded him of the night his own parents were killed. He was going to kill a guy that was only trying to defend his woman, much like his father that night. Ironically Superman's woman also called Martha. So that unique situation coupled with the name hit him like a brick with the awful realization.

>Movie makes alright money when literally nothing is out to challenge it
>Somehow this justifies the mediocre movie with terrible editing, pacing, plot, and character interactions
It feels like the rules for criticism keep changing with each installment.....

I don't like the context you're putting Clark and Ma in.

I think we all get the MARTHA thing, its just dumb regardless no matter how you spin it. When its all said and done it was a sloppy resolution that brought everything to a screeching halt and we were just supposed to roll with it so they can go save the day.

Well, man. Bruce had no context for the whole Martha deal, right? It was only after Lois showed up that he learned that the Martha Superman spoke about was his mom.

CW>BvS>Suicide Squad>Apocalypse>Deadpool

>Suicide Squad: $175 million

That's the same figure they threw around before the much-publicized reshoots. Those weren't free.

>Domestic Gross after 4 weeks

Three.

It's pretty much done. All movies are after the first month. It'll make about another 5% of what it already has after week 3 is . This entire weekend it will be lucky to make another $10m domestically, on top of which it can expect about the same across the following four days. The next week, $10m total will be about the earnings. If it drops below that, it's underperforming.

>Why are people trying to pretend Suicide Squad wasn't successful?

They're not pretending. It is underperforming - based on the opening weekend it had, it should be on about $375m domestically by now if it were slap-bang in the middle of its range. Instead it's languishing right down at the bottom of estimates. The top end is unreachable - that would be more like $450m - and so compared to other movies with similar opening weekends, it is below the median. Way below. Not as badly as BvS, which was actually out of the low range completely for its entire run, but pretty bad.

This is bad because even though it makes money, it troubles the studio that it's not making *as much* money as predictions say it should. It falls off hard after the opener - they'll want to correct that for the sequel, which means dopes in suits all over the place. Plus I'm pretty sure Leto is gonna walk when they ask him back, because I don't know that he needs the money and he sounds pretty pissed off. So they better hope they don't need his character.

The domestic is also far less important than you'd think. Read a financial section sometime, none of the multinationals give two shits about borders any more. Haven't had to in decades.

Well, the whole movie Batman was struggling with living up or failing to live up to the legacy of his father. This related a lot with him not being able to save his own mom. Throughout the whole movie Batman seemed fixated on rescuing females, outside of Wallace Keefer, the wheelchair guy.

So something like that would work on Batman.

they spent $130 million on a fucking ant man movie starring paul rudd? they could have gotten tom cruise for that price and saved on the shrinking fx

Such a cheap joke but you got me.