Right now, any speech which contradicts the leftist narrative is being shut down. Any videos which point out uncomfortable facts about the Holocaust are censored, anyone who does it publicly is sent to prison.
How can a right wing movement exist when the language of the left is the only acceptable discourse?
If we want to make any gains in Germany, and therefore in Europe, we have to get American-style free speech resolutions passed. This should be our primary objective.
No idea just fucking nuke us Daddy
Didn't some woman in Belfast just get 6 months for denouncing Islam? Bwahahahahaha
Give it a 100 years. Im sure after the civil war whites will migrate to some area of your country and start anew
we got the north korea style "freedom" because we lost ww2
still no peace treaty with america,england,france,etc despite being in EU and Nato.
We are still the bad guys after all - read the UN Charta. All former Axis Nations can be invaded anytime without any justification given
Yesterday a guy in germany got 1.5y prison and 4500e fine for... guess what felony.
>rape and assault
>mean comments on facebook
>armed robbery and murder
I'd just move.
America set up this system to suppress the right in 1945 and it was never repealed. Cannot change it now.
The Lügenpresse sees itself as a German state propaganda channel.
>Free speech
I don't think any country other than the US guarantees free speech.
Somalia?
I don't see the line where it says former axis nation can be occupied at any time.
>I don't think any country other than the US guarantees free speech.
Our constitution guarantees free speech, but just as in America there are limits - one is the suppression of the right in accordance with the 1945 anti Nazi laws introduced by America.
germany has freedom of opinion. (not speech)
which means, u can state your opinion as u like but dont expect to (socially) survive this if its not fitting the political or medial narrative.
>1.5 years in prison for mean words
Germany isn't that big right?
Book it as soon as you can, leave the country, find a Russian or Chinese embassy outside Germany and go for asylum there.
It's one thing to be publicly shamed for having an opinion, but it's another thing all together to be sent to fucking prison for it. That's straight up oppression and asylum is specifically designed to cater to these things.
You're not killing people. You're not robbing banks. You're not bombing stadiums. You're stating a fucking opinion. That's 1984 level shit right there.
Hans shut up, you know how fucked it is if you just think to raise your tone to a shitskin or god behold, say something mean (mostly true) about islam, you can say bye bye to your future cause you will be marked till the day of your death as a right wing extremist, no jobs for you Hans.
That is what I am saying - there are limits on free speech for the right.
With what money? We're the poorest Eu country by net fortune. We have a few super rich people, no middle class and a huge lower class.
That's socialism for you.
NO!
YOU CAN BE PUNISHED IN GERMANY FOR THE WRONG OPINION!
Just a month ago a group of basement nerds got arested and the charge was Wrong opinion , cause they posted right wing stuff and hitler images
>Savages taking over your cities and reaping social benefits
>Spend your time blaming the jews and trying to prove the holocaust is fake
This is why a proper right wing movement doesn't exist. You play right into the leftists hands.
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This guy even admits he is going to jail all the right wingers and the migrants are the new Germans.
I'm a jew. Like look jewish, sound jewish, mom is jewish, whole nine yards. I wondr if I went there and said jews shouldn't be encouraging refugees and that Holocaust death tolls wer exaggerated (both of which I genuinely believe) if they would arrest me.
>How can a right wing movement exist when the language of the left is the only acceptable discourse?
I told you months ago that we live in a totalitarian state. Somehow, nobody believed me.
Nigger, now you're learning.
WHAT LIMIT YOU STUPID FUCK FACE!
ITS EXACTY 0% ANY WORD TO A SHITSKIN OR MUDSLIME IS SOCIAL SUICIDE!
They would.
send all the whores to mecca first.
>We are still the bad guys after all
Yeah but you guys literally are the bad guys. Look at the damage you are causing Europe RIGHT NOW.
>bu-but not all Germans...
Do something about it, faggot.
They would but when they checked your background they would kiss your arse, I gladly invite you to Frankfurt am Main, our Mayor is a Liberal Jew (yes liberal jew is his religion you can google that)
Believe me I would , I wouldn't even pee I just want out of this liberal jewish shithole full of nigers and mudslimes
>Our constitution guarantees free speech
Your constitution is a joke like all other ones that 'guarantee' free speech by saying the Government allows it.
Only the United States Constitution and Bill of Rights truly limits the government.
Then there's this fucking bullshit from the EU (which you assholes control).
>Being a Nazi in Germany lands you in prison
That is right and good.
because a certain someone who beat us in ww2 had and still has all our kanzlers in their pockets.
why would Merkel need an soros and goldman sachs advisor for innerpolitical matters??
there is absolute no way to influence the politics once the voting is done.
Saying that mudslimes should stop coming in this country and raping, and saying that the africans are just robbing and selling drugs is now NAZI?
>has all our kanzlers in their pockets.
>implying your cucktrymen don't vote for these anti-German people all the time
Time to stop blaming everyone else and do something about it.
Dont worry, Germany will be dead soon.
We should all proxy to Jewish addresses in England and make derogatory comments about blacks and Arabs.
Here is picture from an interview with Stephan Kramer (a convert Jew) in his office.
He is the President of the Verfassungsschutz (Constitution Protection Agency) in the state of Thüringen.
He has not completed a law degree and is therefore illegally in office:
anonymousnews.ru
Nobody does anything about this and he collects 7400€ a month.
He is also a major contributor to the Amadeu-Antonio Foundation which is headed by Anette Kahane (a former Stasi officer) and created something called "Neue Rechte wiki" (New Right Wiki), which is a wikia style collaboration of Names, adresses and other personal details about people that voice opinions deemed "problematic".
There is a lot more I could write but I have to get to work to pay the salary for these traitors and this is only one state of 16.
I believed you Kraut bro, if that makes you feel any better.
>it's the "American talks about European politics" episode
germany was dead a long time ago. if frg dies theres very few people who would actually care
Most countries do. But with free speech comes responsibility of speech. That is why only intellectuals who can make intelligent arguments can talk, which is perfect.
>How can a right wing movement exist when the language of the left is the only acceptable discourse?
When you physically destroy the Left and implement free speech protocols. They can't say no when they no longer exist.
What is 'responsibility of speech'
>But with free speech comes responsibility of speech.
t. EU Commission.
Now you liberal retard tell me what is democracy, right everyones voice matters.
If you dont like it... then go to N.Korea, Kim Jong Un needs more workers in his factories.
im moving this year , this shithole here is lost and the people aren to worth saving desu
Are you retarded? Its your responsibility to realize if the person you are listening to is retarded. And to solve my question: You just went full retard with this.
Just look what the feminism did to the new american intellectuals...
Viewing it from classical liberalism's point of view, one is free to do or say anything as long as they don't violate other people's rights. This is why for example churches in Sweden can't talk about killing gays like they do in American churches or mosques, as the imam praising in Orlando mosque said they should kill gays out of compassion and then that one guy did.
>american intellectuals
Don't exist.
>How can a right wing movement exist when the language of the left is the only acceptable discourse?
The Streisand Effect should work the same in Germany as anywhere else.
Is it illegal to repeatedly mention this person going to prison and what was said that put him there?
AND WHATS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT YOU FAGGOT!
How does talking about something violate other peoples' rights
Surprised?
> dont exist anymore because of the brainwashing
Thanks for supporting my point.
>That's 1984 level shit right there.
Now you get the Jewish, I mean master plan.
It's an incitement to violence. Responsibility of speech isn't really in any law but any civilized society supports it because they don't want to become like America where everything is just competition instead open discussion. It means that you must think what you want to achieve with your speech. If imam in mosque says "we should kill gays out of compassion", what did he mean by this? Don't present lies as facts. And so on.
It also works other way: if your moral tells you that you should bring up something to the public, don't be quiet.
Same way "freedom of press" also comes with responsiblity of press. Libel is not tolerated.
They don't exist because Americans support anti-intellectualism, most blatant conspiracy theories, politics mixed with religion etc.
It fucking means you must think about what the other means by saying this!
Are you some 13 year old retarded who stole ice from a shop because "your friends" told you so?
It is a civil rights issue.
I recommend study of how segregation was brought to an end in the US.
It happened over decades and involved many court cases.
One by one the wins slowly had an impact.
One of the earliest cases was over the right to use the library. The judge in that case said if you pay taxes for it you have a right to use it.
No. You can keep murder illegal while making it legal to say "I think these people should be executed." The phrase 'incitement to X' is used way too casually to shut down anything from calls for immigration reform to criticism of barbaric third world bullshit
>America where everything is just competition instead open discussion
What the fuck does this even mean?
What people want to achieve with this speech is to let others know how they feel and find out if there are more people who feel the same way
And comparing lies to opinions isn't really fair
Fellow White Americans, we must UNITE to assist our German brothers to repel the leftist rhetoric and preserve freedom for not just Germany, but all White nations of the World.
It starts now, FOR THE FATHERLAND!
>Are you some 13 year old retarded who stole ice from a shop because "your friends" told you so?
No, but lot of people are. It's the responsibility of more intelligent people to guide those who don't know what's the best for them. People like voted for Timo Soini in our last election because they were too stupid to find out the facts, and now they whine how they were "deceived".
>SOURCE.
>muh.. 12 year old article
They are now locking up Jihadist preachers here, its a start. Can still preach whatever they want in the US due to religious freedom.
Though Germany is in a sad state.
It's pretty funny how people in germany claim that they have the ability to speak about everything they want.
question the holocaust?
> up to 5 years in prison
criticise a terrorist?
> get sued
and the thing with the holocaust videos. yeah 100% true. I can't even watch a fucking video about the holocaust. Germany is pretty fucked right now and they even tried and still try to ban right winged political parties.
And what happens when the supposedly more intelligent people make sure that only people who feel the same way they do and trot out the same identical feel-good spiels are allowed in the intellectual circles, and even the government/media backs them up by shitting on or ignoring anyone who opposes them
also, has anyone heard about the guy who got sued because he made fun of erdocuck? perfect example of "free speech" in germany
>still looking at monitor
They VOTED for this and still will.
>And comparing lies to opinions isn't really fair
Well, let's take this article from Kikbart for example:
breitbart.com
Milo here tells that it's "scientific fact" that fat-shaming works, but all of his sources in this article tell the opposite. So he's abusing his freedom to say something, and this guy is supposed to be the cover boy of "ethical journalism".
He was locked up for supporting ISIS, which counts as act of terrorism in UK(Terrorism Act 2000). He was able to preach for 20 years and the damage is already done.
That's a shame Hans.
You are leaving the graves of your forefathers for the Muslim filth to have picnics over.
Don't run away.
Yes
Was covered by the media in the US
But mostly just to laugh at Turkey
>He was locked up for supporting ISIS, which counts as act of terrorism in UK(Terrorism Act 2000). He was able to preach for 20 years and the damage is already done.
It is due to recent changes in interpretation recently applied which he got court out by. 20 years Under a socialist government / cuck-Cameron, which people have chosen to no longer vote for. Its a start.
>Germany responsible
>not the (((internationals))), the (((media))), and the (((education system)))
Rules have no meaning if no one is keeping an eye on them. This is why we have given the responsibility of education to certain people.
More freedom = more responsibility
Less freedom = less responsibility
Switzerland is a good example of free world. Lot of decisions are based on direct democracy, and because of this ordinary citizen has the responsibility to do wide research on politics and be educated on several topics. This is why it was a disaster to give same freedoms to people in Syria for example, because they weren't prepared for it.
I want you to right now, boycott isreal on kikebook. See how that free speach goes for you.
>abusing a freedom
You must not understand what freedom is. You can't abuse a freedom, only violate the freedom of others.
Freedom is inherent in being human, and it is the government's responsibility to NOT interfere. The whole point of freedom is to get away from monarchs/kings/lords in the first place.
Moving to the fatherland for university next year. I have a feeling that it's not half as bad there as Sup Forums posters say it is, at least when compared to the oral sex with animals, 40% white pop., and weed instead of education hellhole I was raised in.
Because of freedom America has things like fat acceptance. Rejecting science + freedom = disaster. Some people are simply too stupid to be free and they will become a burden to both themselves and the rest of the society.
Another case in point: Black Lives Matter. Because people were too free to twist lies as facts and say whatever they want, America is now at full race war.
Democracy becomes a joke the moment you take away freedom of speech. Even the romans knew that 2000 years ago.
Leftist barbarism is directly tied to islamic barbarism, they are two sides of the same coin, that's why they get along so well. Their mutual goal is to destroy freedom and force their world view upon everyone else.
Also, the recent Soros leaks proved that the german mainstream media are controlled by foreign interest, that they are told exactly what to write and what not to write about. The so-called 'free and independent' german press is an orwellian propaganda instrument, 'ministry of truth' style.
The only appropriate answer to 1984 is 1789. On this kind of vicious wickedness, words and arguments are wasted. The elections are a hoax (25% postal votes, worldwide record, easily rigged) and the entire party system needs to be replaced with direct democracy and plebiscites.
>at least when compared to the oral sex with animals, 40% white pop., and weed instead of education hellhole I was raised in.
Toronto?
I wish there was a race war desu
Democracy is just rule-by-media
You are still under the rule of kings and lords, they just aren't open about it
Our Democratic system has enabled foreign entities to hijack our government
Saudi Arabia gets billions off their oil monopoly, which they re-invest to buy our politicians and media networks, which protect their monopoly. Enabling them to make billions more.
Any special interest group can launder money for politicians by getting government money and then giving a portion back to the politician's re-election campaign.
The rulers don't care about the people of the nation, and thus the nation is dying.
Your conception of freedom is a nonsense notion pushed by egalitarians to provide a safe environment for out-groups
Bingo
You can't fix stupid.
Censorship doesn't fix stupid either, but it can prevent intelligent people from pointing out the stupid.
youtube.com
Was this freedom of speech, or abusing freedom? The responsibility counts as pointing out the truth if you know it.
Typical corruption. It's just one of the many flaws of representative "democracy".
Freedom of speech
Cheney as secretary of defense thought the CIA were fuckups because they didn't know about the Iraqi nuclear program prior to the first gulf war.
Cheney as VP was told Iraq didn't have nukes by the CIA, but he didn't believe them. He formed his own group to determine if Iraq had nukes and that group told him yes.
It is an example of self fulfilling hypothesis.
Censorship wouldn't fix this problem either.
>How can a right wing movement exist when the language of the left is the only acceptable discourse
There is no acceptable political discourse
in Germany. You parrot the White Genocide
line toted by the left to race mix out of
existence or your a Racist Neo-Nazi that
should be killed.
Germans will never outrun National Socialism.
You can never create a party that won't be
compared to or slandered by NS. The only
choice is to fight back using a soft version of
NS publicly and a hardline version in the
shadows.
NS Publically - We want Germany to survive.
NS Shadow- The Jewish Multiculturalism
Must be chased out.
Like you said, you can't speak out publicly
so your only recourse is pic related. Use
plenty of them on targets of the left. Out of
the Chaos a pro German resistance will
emerge. If its one things the Germans do,
they love to make order out of chaos.
As terrible a situation as we're in, how come it's always Americucks pretending not be on the sinking end of the boat? I don't intend to make excuses but you guys are probably worse off demographically, and free speech probably won't save you from that.