>Constitutional conservatives can't stand the alt-right. Conservatives - real conservatives - believe that only a philosophy of limited government, God-given rights and personal responsibility can save the country. And that creed is not bound to race or ethnicity. Broad swaths of the alt-right, by contrast, believe in a creed-free, race-based nationalism, insisting, among other things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passe; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It's a movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism.
Go give a shit tier country their God-given rights and personal responsibility. See if that saves their country.
Then give another country only white nationalist proud and productive members.
Which one do you think is going to be doing better in 100 years?
Shapiro is either shilling or falling for the "we are all equal" meme.
Brandon Hill
Jesus man what do you think? Have you looked around on here? Do you really need to ask if it's "shot through" with racism and anti-semitism?
The alt-right doesn't care anyway. They are proud of the racism and anti-semitism because it's as the man said, they're ultimately tribalists.
Hudson Richardson
I can't speak for everyone, buts that's not my position. It's seems pretty obvious to me that if you want to have a limited government that is bound by a constitution, the people that live in that country should want that as well, or democracy will simply not have it. Voting patterns are pretty clear, it's almost exclusively whites that want that vision for the US. No other people have built a nation under those principles.
Brayden Cruz
not even half the lines of that picture make sense. shitty caricature
Brody Hill
Which ones leaf?
Kevin Mitchell
>conservatives - real conservatives
i really dislike the "omg race realism is bad" meme. if you can't be honest with yourself and the people around you, why bother? i wonder if ben has lived amongst minorities? he would be quick to shut up.
Landon Wright
>by contrast, believe in a creed-free, race-based nationalism, insisting, among other things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. Jesus fuck he's such a dishonest cunt.
Carter Wilson
>implying racism doesn't make sense
a special kind of retard wrote this one
Brandon Bailey
Hes betrayed by is neoliberal economics.
Lincoln Wood
So you're not voting for trump then?
Julian Rodriguez
Why hasn't Chuck Johnson destroyed this lying shit head in a debate yet?
He himself is a minority. That is the foundation of his psychological identity. He thinks he is not a tribalist, but he is. He is part of the minority tribe. His politics revolve around that tribe and are defined by it. He does not identify with whites and reacts against anti-semitism.
Levi Lopez
>yfw you notice that every picture of Ben Shapiro is taken from the bottom pointing up
Jeremiah Lee
lol who cares?
Zachary Wilson
see youtube.com/watch?v=YBvq0kUpHio dipshits. The alt-right isn't about racism, it's about accepting reality and embracing hard truths.
Chase Cook
no one says
sjw are the greatest threat im extremely cynical trump will fix everything ill die alone mom is such a cuckservative get a job ? >milo >alt-right sjw looking for thing to be mad about rebelling mom isnt something typical of very relevent to the alt-right
There's more I havent listed that the alt-right says but many other group of people say it too which makes it irrelevent.
it's just yet another 'what i dont like is a virgin who live in his parent basement' type of shitty insult that already wasnt funny back in 1998 when I was playing starcraft brood war
Adam Powell
"Constitutional conservatives" need to get it through their skulls that nobody except themselves and a few select others (which do not meet voting majorities) believe in these values.
They are going to be mathematically eliminated and nobody...nobody...is going to give a flying fuck about how principled they thought they were.
- Nobody will praise your refusal to see realities - Nobody will make a movie about you and how right you were - Nobody will care you even existed at all
You can stick your head in the sand and just get bulldozed into soon forgotten paste if you refuse to see reason, if you're remembered at all it's with mocking contempt.
Brayden Turner
>birth on American soil confers superiority >alt right is pretty strictly against ius soli
That man is both a faggot and a retard.
Mason Anderson
or very*
Noah Diaz
Who Cares About Your Deluded Bbc Chasing Boy Club
Liam Roberts
>those truths are just happen to be very racist but honestly they are secondary All you guys do is whinge about niggers and Jews. Every problem is because of niggers, or Jews or Jews controlling niggers. Someone is even probably gonna call me a Jew or at least a "good goy" before the thread is over.
Andrew Butler
Well I can't stand fucking Jews, so here we are.
Jack Barnes
the 'alt-right' is a term for faggots that believe 'right wing' has negative connotations. You didn't come up with anything new. Hell most of the shit people in your special group complain about the pastor in my church addresses every sunday in his sermon
Ryan Perry
Kike CTR.
Julian Nelson
That's not even right, though. I despise numerous people born on US soil, including anchor babies, most Jews, and Ben 'use the political right to enforce Jewish might' Shapiro.
Asher Mitchell
jew detected
Brandon Green
Yeah of course cause the image is satirical. I've seen many an SJW gat thread that blames them, or third wave feminism for ruining men, I've seen plenty of >based milo comments.
It's making fun of you, you dork. Like all those bix nood images, and happy merchant images make fun of your two favorite groups.
Ayden Reed
Not an argument. >>those truths are just happen to be very racist Racial realism isn't actual racism. Faggots like Shapiro just call it that to avoid addressing it.
>Every problem is because of niggers, or Jews or Jews controlling niggers. For the most part, yes. But it's not racist to point that out if rooted in facts and stats.
>the 'alt-right' is a term for faggots that believe 'right wing' has negative connotations. Nope. The actual truth is addressed in the previous video. >You didn't come up with anything new. Following the truth isn't anything new, it's just uncommon in today's media. That's all the alt-right is about.
Connor Edwards
He frequently acknowledges that dindus murder and drop out of high school at muh higher rates than whites. If it wasnt for the fact he is so anti-Trump for some reason he'd be a pretty cool guy.
Brayden Watson
>(((alt-right)))
Yeah nah fuck that shit.
Sup Forums IS A NATSOC BOARD
14/88
Ryan Walker
>Constitutional conservatives
The Israeli Constitution?
Liam Scott
I'm not watching your neckbearded leader for half an hour.
Benjamin Perry
Thanks leaf, I needed that alley-oop. >racial realism Love the new terminology, you guys are learning the lessons of the government well.
Charles Garcia
And yet we keep importing people that don't want your "real conservative values" either. Even in America, the people who believe in those values are shrinking everyday. And they see this. And they know that if they sit idly by and hold onto those values, they'll be taken away by the people who are not interested in those kinds of values.
That's what prompted the appearance of the alt-right. A knowing that the method of holding onto conservative values and doing nothing more is leading to the very death of those values. The only way to even save any of those values is to go towards nationalism.
Ben's judgement is clouded by his anti-semitism crap. Although I have to say, if you live in America and you hold jewish values and traditions and loyalty to Israel over America, you can fuck right off.
Adrian Nguyen
Hahah is this actually Ben Shapiro right here you fucking faggot? Hahah. Christjew arabjew Jewjew it's all the same nigger: we hate you--we hate your county we'd eat your children you fucking rat and then we'd shit them out on your face like the pigs you are. I hope the Arabs get you and stuff you up their anus.
Thomas Diaz
>Racial realism isn't actual racism. Faggots like Shapiro just call it that to avoid addressing it.
He's right in his descriptions, but he's wrong in thinking constitutional conservatism works or will ever work in a multiracial society.
For all his flaws (namely being Jewish), Shapiro probably has the best understanding of the alt right of anyone not affiliated with the movement
Luis Mitchell
He's not right or left, he's down
Christian Allen
What is wrong with nationalism, populism, or tribalism?
Lucas Stewart
>Constitutional conservatives can't stand the alt-right. Conservatives - real conservatives - believe that only a philosophy of limited government, God-given rights and personal responsibility can save the country. And that creed is not bound to race or ethnicity.
This only worked when whites were the dominant majority. What a fucking moron. A jew shilling for big jew businesses. Nothing new here. Small government and unregulated big businesses are exactly what national socialist movement was fighting against. You can't have both, polfriends.
Isaac Thomas
my point is its a shitty and unfunny caricature because either
- its too broad like 'build a wall' or - its not even remotely related like the mom shits or milo
if you wanna laugh at the alt-right maybe you should base it on something true like
>white nat >hate white women non-stop and worshipped asians women and anime >obsessed with traps - laugh at how they always say cuck - le white wimminz in wheat fields
etc.
David Gonzalez
We believe in saving western civilization, benji and his ilk only care about muh shekels. They want open borders for one reason it helps their corporate donors. Democrats want open borders for votes and because it helps their corporate donors. Benji and his friends are a small minority of our party and they are growing smaller every day, even Brad Thor left the never Trump group.
Christopher Miller
Take a hike Ben that kike
Kayden Flores
>Love the new terminology Huh? Racial realism is literally just accepting modern genetic science.
>Except when he does... Nope. He attributes it to 'culture' in that video. This allows him to continue to call the alt-right racist while not accepting or addressing the actual truth about human genetics.
>Hahah is this actually Ben Shapiro right here you fucking faggot? Nah, just someone who cares about the alt-right enough to not want to see it destroyed in its infancy by mouth breathers like you. If you want to destroy Israel, the irony of being a White Nationalist is lost on you.
Wyatt Lee
I find myself taking refuge in this unassailable tower frequently. What else are you supposed to do when some things come down to value differences?
>Black people don't have the same advantages you do >Well I don't want to be near a bunch of PTSD, anti-social personality disorder, survivors of childhood abuse niggers so there you have it.
Jace Kelly
Primarily it's that it fosters a violent divisiveness between peoples that is too risky in modern global society. Preventing WWIII is generally considered to be in everyone's best interest, and since those things were the direct cause of Both world wars it's not hard to see why people are not fans.
Jacob Lewis
>unfunny That's just cause you're a member of the alt-right.
Josiah Cook
nice shitty reply. glad i won this argument
and im not part of the alt-right
Easton Richardson
People attempting to prevent nationalism caused both world wars
John Brown
>Primarily it's that it fosters a violent divisiveness between peoples Japan is very nationalistic and also very peaceful. I love that Japan is very nationalistic. I respect the Japanese very much and consider them to be absolute equals and would gladly fight to defend Japan from an outside aggressor.
I also would never want to be Japanese, marry a Japanese woman, nor would I want millions of Japanese people moving into my home city, because then it wouldn't be my home anymore.
Nationalism among equals prevents war while not turning the entire world into a boring smear of brown people with low IQs, high poverty, and high violence rates. Basically, fuck you Soros shill fuckhead.
Dylan Baker
>modern genetic science You mean the one that continually proves we're all one species that came out of Africa?
Jonathan Hughes
Funny thing is the globalist are the ones pushing for WWIII. The real war is down the road and it won't be against Russia. This war will be fought on every city block and town in the west it will be a fight for survival but in the end we will most likely lose.
Julian Bennett
I said Between people(s) like Chinese and Japanese. The history of violence between them is well documented.
Eli Ortiz
They should probably share a country then
Thomas Foster
Yeah? The race war right? Glad to be on the side with Nostradamus.
Daniel Gray
Tell that to Hitler sempai after we cook you for dinner you pig-kike. You've never had anything to do with us. You and milofaggotjew tried to infiltrate but we got you and are about to cook you just in time, pigs.
Kayden Ortiz
Everything is right until >It's a movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism
Brayden Parker
Nah they should just chill on the nationalist rhetoric and ease of butting head with each other cause "fuck those flathead nips" and "round faced chinks".
Chase Nguyen
>You mean the one that continually proves we're all one species that came out of Africa? Neat, you've outed yourself as a dishonest, anti-science fuckhead.
>we're all one species that came out of Africa? Correct, just as all dogs are the same species. There are, however, among humans, just as dogs genetically distinct population groups. These are usually called 'races' or 'ethnicities' by the layman, but the closest scientific definition is 'haplogroups'.
Different human haplogroups have varying frequencies of certain genes, different average heights, intelligence, capacity for empathy, predisposition for crime, temperament, etc.
Letting in vast swathes of low intelligence, high violence populations into first world nations will destroy those nations, possibly irreversibly. That's why strict immigration controls is not only rational, it's required.
Andrew Ortiz
There is no predisposition to crime gene you twat.
Hunter Howard
>I ignored the rest of your post to only focus on Japan and China Neat. >The history of violence between them is well documented. As is the history of violence of Japan fighting itself in civil wars and China doing the same. People kill other people.
Tyler Rodriguez
>God-given rights These "God-given rights" are the exact reason Iraq is a mess. This American arrogance is exactly why the rest of the world hates you.
Isaiah Mitchell
ben is being a hillary shill. him and milo are on record as being anti trump.they tried to say one of his security guys beat up one of their journalist. which turned out to be a lie. that lie cost little benny his job
the "alt right" (a label he came up with) is actually just people who are real conservatives
what he calles constitutional conservatives are rhino faggots who betrayed the voters in 2011. they went around talking about all the things the like in obamacare and how russia is bad for not supporting gays and how they support illegal immigration
watch your back shapy the hounds have been released and you been a bad boy
its just shill faggotry. there is nothing in the constitution against enforcing existing border laws or allowing obamacare to continue to exist.
Blake Johnson
The feds have gained a lot of power. No one will ever get elected on running to remove that power. The only way government will ever shrink is at the hands of a gracious populist.
But they can't see that because muh principles
Ethan Brooks
>There is no predisposition to crime gene you twat. But there is, you lying, dishonest, anti-science fuckhead.
It's called the MAOA gene.
There's also genes that control for intelligence. That's why letting in low IQ groups into your country is a bad idea that will destroy your country.
Elijah Morales
Cite your source fuckstick.
Angel Flores
>These "God-given rights" are the exact reason Iraq is a mess. No, international banks and corporations bribing and controlling our government is the reason Iraq is a mess. Same with Libya and (almost) Syria.
Colton Murphy
yes. what he calls alt right is in fact the a corrupted version of the traditional political right wing, that has been subverted by leftism. The alt right follows the blueprint of fascism essentially. Pre fascist right wing is basically the real right wing that is properly called conservatism. It typically puts the emphasis on religion, family and country. It rejects imperialism as well as bloated government and was never motivated by race or class, while the alt right already infected by this marxist theme.
Guess which race has it up to 30x more than other races?
Kevin Hernandez
Kikes again. Why won't you stay still so we can put a end to this?
Oliver Gutierrez
Iraq is a mess because its a desert shithole that has been ruled by religious dictators for 2 millennia. Our influence in that region ala the cold war simply provided the catalyst for their leaders to use us as a scapegoat instead of their neighbors.
But yeah, it's American arrogance that has caused it, because its really outlandish and stupid of us to think that maybe other people want the freedom to assemble, protest, own a weapon, have self-determination, be free from a religious imperative, and have equal status before the law as any other person.
Yeah, I get it, you live in Finland, you think you are the smartest mother fucker on this board.
Only you aren't. I hope in time you look at a longer and broader view of history instead of making asinine comments.
Gavin Moore
Bush literally said it's a God-given right and Americans believed it. This is how you sell war to stupid Americans. And it's what Shapiro believes as well.
so yea, but the jew uses ugly and hateful language. Filthy jew goblin.
Bentley Johnson
>But yeah, it's American arrogance that has caused it, because its really outlandish and stupid of us to think that maybe other people want the freedom to assemble, protest, own a weapon, have self-determination, be free from a religious imperative, and have equal status before the law as any other person. Hi, Ben. Nice neo-con response. See for the actual reason why though.
Eli Torres
>Bush literally said it's a God-given right and Americans believed it. Bush is a fucking PUPPET of those banks and corporations.
>This is how you sell war to stupid Americans. Yep, but that's not why he ACTUALLY did it.
Noah Clark
Shapiro also has this idea of what's "good" and what's "evil". People like him are unable to see it any other way because they don't understand the relationships and connections between humans. That is why I'm guaranteed that Shapiro has Aspergers syndrome.
Julian Richardson
So I don't understand what your position is here--you're a kike trying to be a part of pol--did you just blow in from stupid town?
Dylan Nguyen
No, I'm just someone who cares about the alt-right setting the record straight. An alt-right CTR, if you will.
I'm just pointing out that 'muh god' or 'muh freedom' isn't why America bombs Middle East countries, it's because they threaten the hegemony of the petrodollar.
Elijah Edwards
>real conservatives
Top fucking kek, these are the same people who masturbate over Atlas Shrugged, despite that it was written by an atheist, and The Wealth of Nations, despite the fact that Adam Smith also wrote a book on moral sentiments, which is completely at odds with the "real" "conservative" socio-economical model of rational self-interest
Maybe Ben, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin and all the other "real conservative" fucktards should do the thinking first and then open their mouths, instead of the other way around
Cameron Watson
>Blame it on the (insert thing here) Typical of people unwilling to put in the work of researching a regions history and culture in addition the outside influence of nations. Non-secular government is the closest thing to an answer to the question of why almost all nations in the middle east are terrible. And even that doesn't touch on a number of other much more relevant factors than the influence of other nations.
Leo Jones
>be free from a religious imperative It's the total opposite though. Ever since Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, American leaders have protected their freedom to practice that religion instead getting oppressed by Marxist atheists or secular dictators.
Gavin Sullivan
It threatens (((something a little more precious to you all)))
Jose Foster
You realize that Iraq and Syria had secular government before the wars?
Benjamin Collins
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Liam Phillips
>Non-secular government is the closest thing to an answer to the question of why almost all nations in the middle east are terrible. Oh, now I get it, you're on the autism spectrum and took what the previous Finn poster said about Iraq being a shithole too literally. What he really meant was - Why was Iraq bombed into the stone age during the 2000's by Bush?
My answer of international banking cartels/corporations controlling our government, as well as protecting the petrodollar is the answer to that. But yes, insane religious governments are generally healthy for countries to have, though their low average IQs is what I would attribute the generally shitty condition of most third world countries for the most part.
>Typical of people unwilling to put in the work of researching a regions history and culture in addition the outside influence of nations. An entirely irrelevant failed point that doesn't apply to me whatsoever.
Nathan Peterson
>American leaders have protected their freedom to practice that religion instead getting oppressed by Marxist atheists or secular dictators. No, dumbshit, that died with Vietnam. It's been used on wars in the middle east because it sells to the US public. The REAL reason, like all wars, is MONEY. duh.
Dominic Brooks
No they didn't. They had the face of one. However on a social level, and indeed on a government level (as religious imperatives still had great influence) Islam was very much still the center of power for the region.
Brandon White
Your responses are so far off in non sequitur land that I'm starting to suspect you're a jew false-flagging as a really fucking retarded alt-right guy.
Noah Roberts
> only open borders can save the country > 100s million of muslim shitskins and spics migrate > *instant shariah law* > "Only true conservatism can save the US, guys !"
Hunter Parker
I know it's money. But neo-cons like Shapiro praise it as God-given right to be the center of the world.
Adrian Lewis
>But yes, insane religious governments are generally healthy for countries to have, Should be *unhealthy* obviously.
Bentley Ward
You know when conflicting cultures occupy the same place it creates tension and ultimately war. This has happened to every great civilization to grace the earth. Most famous was Rome, it was not the Huns who killed the Roman Empire it was the Refugees who ran from them and sought asylum in Roman land. It is inevitable, you should read the works of Oswald Spengler he described how all civilizations end.
Jayden Gonzalez
How can he be so smart but still believe in God?
Samuel Garcia
Jews feed feminism, feminism feeds the gynocracy and single-mother epidemic, which feeds crime and breaks society, all along the way the Jew glorifies crime in the media, performs usury in the banks after jewing through the (((Ivy League))), and then has the fucking gall to send his emissaries to pol to Jew us out of our own nationalism and country? No thx, Jew. Die.
Colton Johnson
>But neo-cons like Shapiro praise it as God-given right to be the center of the world. Now you're referring to Jewish Zionism, and yes, protecting Israel from the neighbors it refuses to get along with is also a large part of neocon motivations. >But neo-cons like Shapiro praise it as God-given right to be the center of the world. He says that to appeal to evangelical retard Christians. He actually means it's the right of Israel to dominate the middle east. Shapiro is an ethno-centric racist traitor by definition, mind you.
Caleb Carter
> oy vey goyim, it's not the communist totalitarianism that caused WWII, it's was definitely caused by the lack of diversity in white countries. Take these muslims and spics, stupid goy!
Juan Wood
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James Brooks
My Frankish friend how fares France right now. I hope the best for you my grandfather came from the Burgandy region.
Alexander Powell
The fundamentalist Islamist dregs of society were governed by an opressive minority that rule the nation with an iron boot and exploited them for themselves and their clan.
Iran gets romanticised but like in egypt outside of the urban centers you have the absolute haram bois sitting just waiting to get back into power.
All amplified by foreign actors. Oil was the most dog shit thing that could happen to that region.
Turkey is Islamofacism.
Iran has a slim chance to escape it in the next 50 years and get rid of the Islamodregs due to massive birth rate after their war with Iraq but they are set for invasion by the US in the next 10 years no matter who gets into office.
With Trump they have a chance to not be eternally fucked up with Hillary well......
Trump has in my opinion a 70-80% to go open american Imperalism and just seize the entire damn middle east take the Oil under security management because they just can't handle it.
With Hillary the first term will be dedicated to crash russias economy and get them out of Syria and secondary out of crimea but the latter can wait.
Second Term will be about finding a reason to attack Iran in the first year in Office.
