Why are Neo-Nazis such fucking degenerates compared to actual national socialists?

Why are Neo-Nazis such fucking degenerates compared to actual national socialists?

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Closet cucks. Most like to get the black man angry so he pounds their wives pussy harder.

Because every single openly NatSoc group is funded by jews and half the members are agents.

Because all the legitimate attempts at white nationalism or similar movements get squashed by governments who then make sure that in the political and social discourse, they're seen as nothing but "White trash" or whatever. For example, in the US all the "neo-nazis" and other movements get infiltrated by the feds in the 80's and 90's and effectively got shut down. Those that are still around are full of feds and people too stupid to realize they're full of feds.

including NMR?

Because you already have to be a social outcast to openly support these groups

This.

It is very difficult to create any right leaning political group, without infiltration.

Not only this, but members involved in the subversion, will attempt to gain positions of control within the hierarchy.

They will then take action that will be done to cause public backlash against the person and organisation.

For example releasing privately recorded audio/video after baiting a conversation on specific topics.

Commit crimes such as attack minorities etc.

I'm a member in NMR, what to talk?

Denmark says you're a honeypot

I have a hard time believing that, I'm a very low ranking member, but some of the things we do would be counterproductive for the state if we where a honeypot. We also have for example no interest in going into Denmark because you guys already have some NS movements down there. We don't want to take member away from an established organization that we feel is "in order"

Dont know NMR.

Nord Front is most likely infested with agents but at least they dont look too bad.

Because they are a product of Jewish influence as much as the Leftists.

We do a LOT of control to try and find cells or infiltrators. Mainly ones from SÄPO and Communist organizations. It's not as easy to infiltrate as some might think.

Well, most of them are too focused on Hitler and how he was apparently a great strategist/leader when he was actually terrible and became crazy towards the end of the third reich.

Fascism > NatSoc, anyway. I'd rather have a meritocracy where a country is united on the basis of its culture and nationalism rather than focusing on race.

because fascists are the real degenerates

isn't the point of NMR to spread all of the nordic countries?

Nord Front is the Swedish part of NMR (I think)

>rather than focusing on race
>implying race isn't a big fucking factor
Sorry my Moorish friend

Fascism =/= meritocracy. The two things are mutually exclusive.

>Designing box-like vertical armor
>When this already exists

Looks like actual national socialists were pretty "degenerete" as well

Then you don't know how important race is. I do agree on the Hitler cultism that some neo-nazi
groups tend to have. He was a great man and without him there might not have been a Third
Reich, but some people take it too far. With some it's as if Savitri Devi created an organization.

Do you guys have anime nights?

Really? I remember reading a news story about the american NatSoc groups being raided or something and the police arresting like 4 of their own guys in one go.

Yes, the goal is to unite all Nordic countries under one NS Government, by any means necessary.

And nordfront is only our website/news-site, there is only one organization with many different branches. The Nordic Resistance Movement, there is no such thing as SMR

Sloped armor was very uncomfortable for the crew, many accounts of German tank commanders were saying that the Russian T34's would fire only once every time Tiger would fire 4 times, also, the Germans invented sloped armor and the very means of making curved armor, was sold to the Russians pre-war, by Germans.

Found the moor

Because actual nazis usually hide their power level because they're afraid of being persecuted.

>be soviet tank crew
>go to war in a can

That's in the US, our intelligence/security agencies are understaffed and are very inefficient. Even then we take precautions just in case. There might be some agents, but nowhere near the top.

>le sloped armor meme

Germans weren't malnourished enough to fit inside those. That's why the Panther was larger.

For example I get my ideas shot down quite often because they are rather extreme or violent for the time being. They encourage to take things slowly, they often say that we are doing a marathon, not sprinting.

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Because real national socialism would be a terrible danger for the current political system, and neo nazis are, and are seen as white trash punks.

Because they are, they are financed by jews and dont care for anything. Ive hanged out in similar locations as these faggots and you'd see them talking to Punks, smoking weed together, its all style.

Now what would happen if someone organized the youth into a group that helps the community and is respected for that...now that is dangerous indeed.

Nazi's have become the new Jews this way.

>implying murrican tanks were any better

couldn't that theoretically be infiltrators that wanna subdue the movement instead?

>Don't take action
>go for the long game

Well then, then why did Germans adopted sloped for their later designs?

most of them really are fucking retarded.
They are clowns for the media to show: Look here are the nationalists. Do you really want to hop on a boat with these guys?

When you want a real national movement you have to get rid of these morons.

This tbqh.

Though race is a factor to consider in times like ours, where inbred jihadist radicals are flooding our lands and are utterly opposed to all of our values. Most of the time under fascism only a strong civic nationalism needs to be maintained and enforced to keep the nation strong. If it just so happens that a race or ethnic group of people want to destroy the nation as a whole, then they will be dealt with. It's not something that considers race from the outset it's one that reacts to race based on evidence and experience in the present.

They train us quite hard for a possible insurgency though. So I doubt it's to keep us docile.

>le clever kiketwist thread

Such a correct record. This day, OP was not a faggot.

Are they open for discussion at the meetings and such?

I don't agree with NatSoc 100%, will I be kicked out as a shill?

The one thing I care about is the 14 words

Ah, well i certainly hope that you are as agent free as possible.

Godspeed user.

The only selection pressure for altruism is shared genetics, user. Do you even study Darwin?

Neo-Nazis are paid by the government. The government created skinheads and other degenerates to make it socially unacceptable to have any type of nationalist right wing views of the world... because those skinheads and Neo-Nazis are so ugly and repulsive.

A National Socialist looked like pic related.

Some of the earliest german tanks in ww2 had sloped armor. Im not sure why they dident stick with it.

Guess they werent really that fond of it until later.

Man. Both of those in your pic might be extinct before too long.

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What is the panther?

>implying race isn't a big fucking factor
I have way more in common with other Moroccans, whether they are arabs, berbers, or subsaharians, than I do with Libyans, which are genetically close.

How so?

>Then you don't know how important race is.
Once again, I have way more in common with people of the same nationality and culture than people of the same ethnicity. Who should be treated better: an educated and great nigger, or white trash?

Yeah, I tend to prefer civic nationalism over ethnic nationalism. It's better to give an opportunity to everyone and allow any individual to best themselves for the good of their nation rather than selecting between patriots from the get-go based on their origins.

>The only selection pressure for altruism is shared genetics, user.
Any source to back that up?

Controlled opposition

We have meetings where the group you are part of gets to discuss some questions or arguments to
practice discussion and to learn from eachother, it's the best time to bring up your own ideas and to
discuss things you might not agree with. It is the only time we are allowed to disagree though, they
argue that in public we need to show ourselves as a strong united entity. But behind closed walls you
are allowed to discuss freely with other members.

Thank you. Fortsätt med kampen, Hell Seger!

outliers dont stay outliers. that great niggers bloodline is going to degenerate back into nigdom while the white trash is going to eventually return to the average white

what you are saying is true for the short term but the next fiscal quarter isnt the only thing to worry about

You can go into our website and take contact with your local NMR group, they will want to chat with
you in some public cafe or something like that. Go
for it and see for yourself if we are "in order" or not. The greatest crime is to see yourself as a
National Socialist, nut do nothing for the struggle.

We even have positions where you can help out without being tied to the organization, but getting in
touch with NatSocs in real life is one of the best things I have done.

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If sloped armor is so good then why doesn't soviet tanks look like this?

Or the Tiger 2?

>It's better to give an opportunity to everyone and allow any individual to best themselves for the good of their nation

So capitalism hiding behind and controlling nationalism like always?

Pure ideology.

>what you are saying is true for the short term but the next fiscal quarter isnt the only thing to worry about
Mussolini's fascist regime worked ten decades longer than the Third Reich, and it wasn't racist until 1938 when Nazi Germany used the sockpuppet state to enact anti-jew laws (which were unpopular with the population since italian jews were a small minority and were deeply integrated into Italian society)

Mussolini had racist views early on, but during the second part of the Fascist Party's reign, he said "Race! It is a feeling, not a reality: ninety-five percent, at least, is a feeling. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today. ... National pride has no need of the delirium of race."

>So capitalism hiding behind and controlling nationalism like always?
How did you infer that from my sentence?
What's the difference between "give opportunities to every aryan" and "give opportunities to everyone" when it comes to capitalism?

Equal opportunities in the goal of serving the nation doesn't translate to capitalism, since it is altruist in nature.

No difference between them
Neo-nazis worship Hitler aka first german cuckaiser
National-socialists follow ideology that brought Europe to shit
All of them are the same

Kill yourself.

>then why doesn't soviet tanks look like this?

says who?

the reason modern tanks no longer look like that is that with the introduction of HEAT rounds armor started becoming obsolete because the penetration capability of the shell surpassed the protective capability of the armor by such a large margin.

>actual national socialists
Because actual "actual national socialists" aka Nazis are undereducated idiots. Who attaches themselves to an ideology that was so massively destructive last century? Who wants to be a failure? Who embraces defeat? I think the only possible explanations are psychosexual -- the appeal of Nazism today does not lie in its policies or prior record.

As this thread demonstrates, most Nazis today wear massive tin hats and possess tiny, non-functioning penises.

Because the later designs were massive, they could afford the sloping.

>National-socialists follow ideology that brought Europe to shit
and communism didn't?

I'm not going to go the way of your empire, sorry

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Sloped armor is still used to stop Sabot shells, but not in the extent as it was in WW2, anyways isn't this /k/ stuff? stick to the politics...

If national-socialism wouldn't be a shit we wouldn't won

first nazi germany was murdered, it did not fail
>racist
this is a communist word, you are not going to understand fascism if you view it through a communist lens, nothing mussolini said in that quote goes against "racism" at all, race is a social construct, that doesnt mean its not a meaningful social construct.

where do you draw the line between red and blue? its a social construct, and yet red and blue still meaningfully exist dont they?

I'll look into it, tired of sitting on my ass

Thanks

>race is a social construct, that doesnt mean its not a meaningful social construct.

you dumb fucking cuck

you talk about communist words, yet you say that race is a social construct. it is not. the foundation of natsoc is race reality

you have good intentions though, so you should go read mein kampf

it is a social construct. genetics are real but the classification of "race" is up for interpretation

no it's not

there are differences in intelligence, physiology and innate creativity

there is nothing socially constructed about that

Is that Bovington tank museum?

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of course but there are many difference shades and type between races, where does one race begin and the other end?

>first nazi germany was murdered, it did not fail
Never said it failed, just pointed out that it was as valid as national socialism and that it doesn't fail in the long-term.

>this is a communist word
What? How is it a communist word?

>nothing mussolini said in that quote goes against "racism" at all
"National pride has no need of the delirium of race"

How the fuck do you interpret this as supporting racism, senpai?

>race is a social construct, that doesnt mean its not a meaningful social construct
You're denying the very basis of national-socialism, dude.

Being a useful social construct doesn't mean it works better than a meritocracy. It doesn't make a population more united either: one of the main reasons the fascist party failed at the end of the war is that it became unpopular due to the increasing number of racial laws.

I found Mein Kampf rather boring and kinda incoherent at times.

Yes, I went yesterday, cool place.
Was a long journey from Surrey to Devon.

Har kollat upp om Gästrikland men har inte hittat något? Vet du om det finns någon verksamhet där?

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Went there to tank fest last year, our fucking challenger tank crashed into a tree on their display. The event was full of people dressed as nazis and kids playing world of tanks.
I've been there a few times, its really good.
You know the area where you walk through the fake trenches.
>was in there and was looking around
>See a wee hole where a few soldiers could sit and chat in the side of a trench
>Oh look there is a model soldier in there making the display look better, like there are model soldiers around everywhere in the display
>Get up close to look at the hole
>What I thought was a model soldier fucking looks round at me as soon as I get close
>it was dark in this hole but so I couldn't see that it was actually just a wild nigger
>Nearly shat myself

Kek.
I'm hoping to go to Tiger Day, I'll be dressed as a panzer crewman for the event, I'll record everything and masturbate to it.
There is nothing more sexy to a Stromfag then seeing the only functional tiger tank running.

communism lasted for decades too, there was not enough time to really prove anything in that way.
>How the fuck do you interpret this as supporting racism, senpai?
key word there is delirium senpai
>Being a useful social construct doesn't mean it works better than a meritocracy. It doesn't make a population more united either
it does, red is very clearly different from blue, you cant just paint a stop sign blue and expect things to work as normal. as i said outliers do not remain outliers and even if you brain drain the absolute best of africa their descendants are still going to revert to the african mean and become a net loss. even intelligent races like asians will still be very clearly and obviously different from the host nation and create enclaves that do not mesh, you can see this everywhere

>Build one of the best tanks of WW2
>Refuse to put radios in it
>'Hurr how do these inferior panzers keep outflanking and massacring us, wave another flag torvish!'
>Get pushed back all the way to Moscow

In the end Russians always fuck it up.

>Germany could of won the war.
>On the doorstep to Moscow.
Moscow heavily defended, but large chance of the Germans succeeding.
FUCK IT, ILL TAKE STALINGRAD BECAUSE OIL.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

There was plenty of stalls selling nazi memorabilia, was tempted to get a badge or two. There were different groups of "reenactors" but most were nazis.

Dude, stop oversimplifying with shit, baseless analogies like that.

Unlike communism, the third reich was rather successful and its people quite happy.

The rest of your post is just saying "people of different ethnicities can't integrate" while ignoring the reality of fascist Italy.

i think its a pretty apt analogy. like i said before brain drain works fine in the short term but for the long term its important to maintain racial standards

>le superior german armor
>that tiger was taken out by poorly designed 6-pounder churchill III's
>while germany wasted time and recources on the tiger/maus/Entwicklung projects the allies successfully counterattacked by simply modifying what they had and just grinding the recourse wasting reich until they had nothing to fight with

Face it. The nazi's were too dumb to fix the problems they had now and instead planned on a victory that would never happen. They were morons who relied on similar stupidity of their enemies to win. But no-one was as stupid as hitler and his model cities.

And on the long-term, Italian fascism worked fine without racial standards.

You can't just throw around claims like that without backung them up.

The King Tiger was only made in small quantities, but sloped armor is the way all MBTs are made today. By the end of the war, we basically had modern tank design.

how long do you think italian fascism lasted? my point hinges on multiple generations worth of time, obviously if you take the very best people from all over the world you are going to have more talent while they are around but they wont be forever, and their bloodline likely wont ever be as intelligent as they were. on scales as large as nations statistics like these are important, its better to create a large pool of your own people for talent to spring from, dont you think? then you also avoid the cultural enclaves that come from letting anyone in with a skill. obviously it doesnt matter on the small scale, you can have honorary aryans and such but going as far as civic nationalism is a bad idea and not really nationalism at all, just exagerated patriotism. walmart or mcdonalds could be a nation by those standards

T-34 was first fielded some 3 weeks after the initial German assault. Germans didn't even know about them until that point.
They should have tho, since several T-34 and KV-1 prototypes were field tested in Finland.

The Panther actually owes it's existence to the T-34. They designed it when they noticed the effectiveness of sloped armor on the T-34's.