Is the I2 haplopgroup the masterrace since they're the original europeans?

is the I2 haplopgroup the masterrace since they're the original europeans?

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No. They are the mixed Europeans. The master race is the l1a.

Decedents of corded ware is the master race.

The original europeans are those with the R1b haplogroup.

Corded ware is utter shit compared to the descendants of the Urnfeld culture, Celts and Italics.

I1 related ones are also native, I in general seems to be the only strictly native Euro lineage

Ancient european nations/tribers/groups have been gangbanging each other for thousands of years. One marker indenfication never worked in the heredity, this is why scientists are examining the genetic packages. At this point that's suspicious who has lack of overlap in its genetics heritage because that means they are newcomers.

With one marker analysis you can only join to 'elite' australian aboriginal and bantu african club because obviously they are the best in this comparison, and you can see how well it worked for them.

How are those even comparable?

>No. They are the mixed Europeans
sardinians, basques are pretty much the purest peoples i think. While south slavs (i presume Illyrians) would also be pure if they didnt get cucked by migrating slavs.

who cares, you should not divide

That's fine, I agree, but that doesn't make them the master race

>who cares, you should not divide
this whole board is known for perpetuating nazi racial theory. Which is divisive in itself.

Illyrians werent slavs

Why would any of Germanic decent mix with current Greece?

they are two IE related cultures that spawned cultures closer to us, CW is the ancestor culture of Germanic culture in n. Europe, Urnfield the ancestor of Italic and Celtic cultures in pretty much all of western Europe

i meant they (illyrians) dissipated and became slavs because of the migrating slavs.

i dunno you tell me :^)

They are over 1000 years apart.
Thinking current day Italians are the same as the Romans are just wishful thinking.
They look about 30% different.

It's the other way around, the slavs dissipated into the natives...

lol, wut. No, you tell me.

>Thinking current day Italians are the same as the Romans are just wishful thinking.
not an argument, stay jelly
point is that I see no master race in the Corded Ware culture, just an early expansion of IE that didn't really lead to anything special in Europe

> I2
> not I1

Shitskin

It's not an argument? It is though. Because we're not talking about who was but who is.

I'm sure the germanic people did nothing.

>Thinking current day Italians are the same as the Romans are just wishful thinking.

>we're not talking about who was but who is
lol, you are the one who started with the CW is mustard race shit, CW is not alive as a culture, you know

the Germanic people did certainly less than Celts or Italics for European culture

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>there were some random light haired people depicted in Roman art so that means all Romans were blonde
>light haired Italians don't exist

This is nigger tier logic.

Pic related. Ancient Greeks are niggers now. WE WUZ KANGZ

This

Never said they were blonde. That wasn't my point. My point is that they are not the same people.
They were far more germanic than today.

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIßE!

>another is x haplogrouo better than y autistic thread

>original
Niggers are the original humans
Does thag make them masterrace? All Europeans migrated from India and Persia. From then they spread and inhabited seperate regions of Europe.

No they weren't. Dark hair and dark eyes were predominant among Romans and Greeks. They wouldn't describe Germanics as being mostly blonde and red-haired if it wasn't, because it was in contrast with that the Romans looked like. That pic of a blonde God you posted for example is of Apollos, he's meant to be blonde because he was a sun God and yellow hair represented that.

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what's it matter anyway, we're all dying out

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Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said they were germanic. I said they were more.
I'm saying they have mixed out. It's the truth.

>Apollos

Helios, sorry.

What are you doing? You can't post this

>>>another is x haplogrouo better than y autistic thread
>Niggers are the original humans
Does thag make them masterrace?
Yep, I mentioned also it.
But, you should know the /pol has weird fetish to create 'divide et impera' threads, even if the white population already can be counted as minority on the planet.

seems like an arbitrary benchmark

their are many proto-arab groups that resemble the caucasian phenotype.

there wasn't any major singular moment where white attributes exploded into being. It was a slow process.

the world "Europe" comes from the Phoenician princess Europa. The first civilization in Europe were the Minoans in which Greek civilization was based on. J2 master race are the true europeans

>hur dur Minions

fuck off normie

>J2
>Master race
>0 understanding of migration, conquest and evolution

>But, you should know the /pol has weird fetish to create 'divide et impera' threads, even if the white population already can be counted as minority on the planet.
if snowniggers weren't so constantly arrogant and resentful with their supposed "superiority" this wouldn't happen, look at who starts this shit usually

>J2
>main stock of Mesopotamians, Phoenicians, Romans, Greeks and Minoans
>not master race
sure thing Saami nigger

So
damn
mad

It's not about arrogance, it's about truth. I didn't ask the question.

> I2 haplopgroup
WE

Romans were Italic so most likely R1b-S28, Greeks being Indo-Euro in origin would've also been heavily R1b/R1a.
It's not exactly known when J2 expanded westward towards the Aegean and s. Italy

lmao no u mad

>Celts
>original Europeans

topqeq

Basques are the original Europeans.

>mad
the irony, I cannot be mad at a snowniggers who, like usual, fails to present even a single evidence for their pathetic nigger tier wewuzism

lol, why would I be mad?

Exactly what do you disagree with?

because you are an ugly neckbeard posting photos of random models on the internet to pretend he isn't sad and mad

Who were inhabiting europe b4 the IE migration? No1?

meer neuken aka kinderen maecken myn vrind

AYOOOO ITALICS WUZ MORE GERMANIACS N SHEIßE

They were also less arab

levantic is not the same as semitic

>Actual Italian negro unironically talking about niggers
Kek'd

if only you could provide a single piece of evidence for your wewuzism, but we all know that ain't gonna happen

>Basques are the original Europeans
and they originate from present day romania

?

>actual eternal low IQ niggers of Eurasia calling anyone niggers
thanks for the laugh Dimitri

>romans were more germanic

modern day italians are probably more germanic because a large portion of the germanic peoples came later around the mass migrations

romans in the city of rome wouldn't have been germanic at all

youtube.com/watch?v=oVIbuIGAu38&feature=youtu.be&t=323

>Most efficient system ever created.
>Agrees with me.

>better change the argument!
hilarious

they didn't, the illyrians were conquered by rome and assimilated into the empire. they were long gone before the slavs came
now shitty albanians with 70% north african and 30% turkish genes say they're illyrians. bullshit

You may joke about it Serbia but it's an increasing problem on this board. Autists are so quick to laugh at niggers for saying WE WUZ KANGS N EGYPTIANS but turn around and do the same thing for ancient Romans and Greeks with regards to German/Nordic blood.

The basic premise is that they research shallow understandings of haplogroups, and in a desperate bid to find the "marker" that has made white man so dominant over the ages, they argue foolishly over what groups of people still have this genetic marker and which ones don't. Any true geneticist would just laugh at these threads for how foolish they are. I know because I used to be like them, my entire thinking focused on the superiority of certain haplogroups. Then I learned about genetic drift and allele frequency, two concepts in biology that few on this board were aware of, and I realized how stupid these arguments were.

Both I2 and I1 are european haplogroups.

No, they are not. They look less germanic than they did. And ancient looks more like Germans today. It's the other way around.

Keep thinking you're the same people. We wuzzing.
I'm not saying the current italians are not the decedents of italy, but they have changed.

You were, I still am.

of rome*

>I'll just keep repeating it without a single shred of evidence, maybe that'll convince them!

Haplomemes don't matter

Put IQ overlay on top of that masterrace.

Convince you of what exactly? Tell me exactly what wrong.

that's WHG-like admixture that isn't farmer derived, Basques have almost as much as Balts

What is it with people from the Balkans and always revising each others' history?

you haven't provided a single piece of evidence for your wewuzism

I was expecting horse porn to be honest.

What are you even talking about?

Basques have different kind

are you mentally handicapped friend?
>I'm not saying the current italians are not the decedents of italy, but they have changed.
>but they have changed
source: your jealous snownigger ass

The vast majority of levantine admixture in italy is older than the romans.
As for arab admixture, there's barely any.

If you're into crazy stuff look into british/anglo israelism.

But they clearly have. Prove me otherwise.

Every other group in europe change but you've stayed the same?

ok give us a primer on how to understand genetics. What sources would you recommend t truly understand this shit.

don't confuse admixture runs among modern populations with those about ancient populations, the atlantic admixture is correlated with high amounts of WHG-like heritage, you cannot post maps like that without their context, if you model Europeans using anatolian farmers, the latter are going to pick up lots of WHG-like admixture since they were a mixed population themselves

>But they clearly have
they clearly haven't. prove me otherwise, the burden of proof is on you

Dude the norwegian is right, he's not saying we don't descend from them, he's saying that there is a significant amount of genetic distance between us, which is to be expected in 1500 years.

they both are, celts just were everywhere on the European continent including Anatolia so they are more well known.

What do they mean by hunter-gatherer genes?

you gotta know history if you want to flame war on the balkan levels
we all have homemade history PhDs

>Every other group in europe change but you've stayed the same?
since the Iron age? pretty much
and not every group in Europe has changed in the same way and in the same era
Italy, Spain and France to a degree are older in their shared ancestry than countries like Germany or Britain, who share much more recent ancestors due to all the migrations in the late antiquity and early middle ages

>Dude the norwegian is right, he's not saying we don't descend from them, he's saying that there is a significant amount of genetic distance between us, which is to be expected in 1500 years.
prove it for fucks sake, everyone can claim shit without proving it

>the burden of proof is on you.
Why? I said everyone else changed but you stayed the same. It's an outrageous claim.

You back it up, bitch.

I'm not confusing anything, both are western hunter gatherer, just different kind.

Haplogroup I people, Cro-magnons.

Here you go, this is for the populatio in tuscany, compared to ancient and medieval times.

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0055519

>I said everyone else changed but you stayed the same. It's an outrageous claim.
you are the one making this claims, prove them

meanwhile, read Ralph&Coop paper on IBD sharing for Europeans and explain why Italians share barely any ancestors with continental Europe in the last 2500 years, same as Spain and France

>he's saying that there is a significant amount of genetic distance between us, which is to be expected in 1500 years.
The influence of invaders has long been overstated.
In the case of Italy it account for around 5% in the North and around 3% in the South.
Italy is largely genetically the same as it was 8000 years ago, however, you must note that Italy has been hit by numerous migration during early humanity do to its position. This is the reason that Sardinians are genetically distinguishable from Venetians who are distinguishable from Casertans.

Genetically you're largely the same as you were 8000 years ago, you're just not the same as each other.

Lombards came out of germany and wrecked romans raping their women and setting up a kingdom for a few hundred years after fall of rome. They somehow get less germanic... what ?