What does pol think of anarchy as a political alternative to the current system

What does pol think of anarchy as a political alternative to the current system.

Which school of thought do you identify with? discuss faggots

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Anarcho-Capitalism

>I don't like roads

And what would you say to those who see your idea as broken and unworkable

I'm a Marxist-Leninist, but Anarcho-Communism is a better alternative to the right.

>i like memes

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What's your defense against somali space pirates bruh?

Its a pretty convenient way to see whose opinions are completely irrelevant.

I guess I'd try to explain why it would work

>LGBTs think they wouldn't be lynched during an anarchic period

the only viable alternative to the current system is National Socialism

Fire a nuke in the shape of marxs face at them

>people who live true and pure anarchy

They are edgy teens & students who blame the government and everyone else for their problems. Anarchy has never and will never work.

Anarcho-Transhumanism, although anarchy is never an "alternative" its something that has to be forced onto the populous through disaster or war, because people can't guide themselves and want free gibs.

Anarchy is ideologically perfect but practically disastrous. Anarchists are in the same league as Communists, they both think an abstract utopian fantasy land is somehow possible.

>anarchist
>"REEEEEEEEEEE IM NOT GONNA CLEAN MY ROOM AND I DONT CARE WHO KNOWS IT"
Fuck off until you understand governance, newfag.

Fuck anarchy. I want rules, fair rules, and I want people to obey.

I was merely joshing, lad.

But yeah, acrual AnCap or any kind of Libertarianism apart from some ideas from the Paul/Johnson brand is just as impossible to implement as textbook Communism.

Why haven't you grown out of idealism yet?

wtf i hate anarchy now

I think if you have "anarcho" or "individual" in your ideology and still need a symbol to rally behind then you are a fucking idiot.

Life-long elective monarchy.

It's kind of like anarchy, only there are laws, you don't get killed for $2.65 in pocket change, and one person stays in control for a very long time.

Why is b full of autistic nazis, facism doesnt work, liberalism will come and throw freedom up your asshole eventually

>women believeing that, in anarchy, they wouldnt be just toys to make babies

It would work in reality unlike Communism, there is historical examples that can be argued as proof it would work and a lot of economic thought. It would be hard to do that on Sup Forums though.

What I think is impossible though is the political feasibility. Obviously no civilization is ever gonna be ancap, I don't see it ever getting to the point where a government would just dissolve into AnCap.

Why is it 'anarcha' feminism?

>muh roads

>no AnCap memes

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

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>be vaguely anti government
>slap your own pet issue on behind the prefix "anarcho-"
>"how does your system work?"
>THERE IS NO SYSTEM ANARCHY RULZ

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>whaaa whaaa, I'm a little baby whaa whaaaa why won't everyone do what I tell them?

Every "anarcho-X" group is pretty much a post-apocalyptic LARPer community. Let's face it, none of these systems would work as long as any alternative still exists.

What in Sam Fucking hell is LGBT anarchy? Is it modern day USA?

>t. a ham

>What I think is impossible though is the political feasibility.

Yeah, and you could say the same thing about Communism as well. And maybe even find some historical examples where it has worked to a certain extent.

I appreciate a lot of the ideas Libertarianism advocated, but I can't take it seriously when people spout buzzwords like freedom and liberty and what not.

Libertarianism would require the NAP to actually work, but that's just as impossible to put into practice as full blown Communism.

And for that matter, what the hell is LGBT Anarchism? is spot on.

>You can either be a hardcore libertarian or an authoritarian

Most modern countries are somewhere inbetween those two extremes, Ante.

Let's ACTUALLY face it:

All these systems have been tried, and resulted in the systems we had now

Do people actually, right now in the current year, think anarchy is at all a viable ideology?

No. Not unless they're soft in the head.

It's when you are 12, but ALSO you never had a father in the household

I thought AnCap was stupid because of the dumb libertarians who constantly cite the NAP as a reason it would work. The only reason they say the NAP for everything is because they don't bother to understand the consequentialist arguments.

The best stuff that convinced me was Walter Block's "The Privatisation of Roads and Highways" and this lecture: youtu.be/V0_Jd_MzGCw

You don't need everyone to follow some silly ideal, society would work because of the functions and incentives in a free market. NAP idiots need to fuck off.

But the free market, without any kind of regulations or the occasionally necessary government intervention is bound to put society in danger, right?

I'm all for a free market, but some restrictions and regulations really are necessary.

>society would work because of the functions and incentives in a free market
so then what happens when a corporation gains too much power and decides to act exactly like a government?

>no egoism
>no illegalism

trash.exe

Anarchy is unnatural. All matter is governed by "rules" which may or may not differ depending on what particle theory you subscribe to.

Strong force exists and organizes and governs particle interactions and as a result, we see matter organized into distinct phases and systems.

The same can be said of organic molecules, simple and complex proteins, single cell and multicellular organisms and in increasing complexity with the animal kingdom..

Animals interact with eachother and form groups, partnerships, host-parasite relationships, families, clans, flocks, broods etc.

Logic dictates that higher numbers improve chances of survival... Clans band together. The strong protect the weak and the weak pay tribute through services to the strong.

If we were to push the reset button now and completely wipe government and knowledge of governmental systems out, humanity would naturally progress back to that.

Tribal groups would form and take control of land and resources to ensure their own survival. Self sufficient loners might survive and live a long life but would not contribute to the gene pool.

This clans and groups that form in an anarchy, in order to grow in scope and influence over land and resources, create hierarchical structures and networks of influence. The stronger clans become conglomerates as they conquer and absorb weaker groups.

Rinse and repeat until you arrive at the state we are in current year.

Governance is natural.

Well greedy business men would love to exploit and endanger the populace but they couldnt in a free market because of competition.

A good example of this is monopolies. Standard Oil had almost a complete monopoly over the oil market in the United States and as a result the government felt the need to intervene and break it up. Their reason was that Standard Oil could dump it's product, put competitors out of business, and then raise its prices to ridiculous levels. Except in reality in never could. It had to keep its prices low in order to keep competition from forming. It's workers wages kept going up in order to retain workers. The government break up with the Sherman Anti-Trust act was actually bad for consumers.

Same with the great depression. It was government credit expansion that led to the crash, and government intervention that extended it until 1946. In contrast to the 1920 depression that was caused by WW1 credit expansion, but only lasted a year because they government didn't intervene in the economy.

>I'm all for a free market, but
No, you're not. Any historical "failures" of the free market are a result of regulation at the time. Recall, a free market demands zero regulation, and that has obviously never been the case because a free market is incompatible with the existence of a state. Under a state, the best you can do is only approximate it.

Anarchy has thought history, been swept away by strong leaders and/or cohesive military's. It is too extreme an ideology to succeed for an extended period of time.

poor public education plebs.

As technology progresses, anarchism (or at least extreme Culture-style minarchism) is inevitable. There is no need for government in a post-scarcity society.

>Gary Johnson
>libertarian of any kind

I'm triggered, desu

The only way a company in a free market can swell in size that much is if it could somehow continuously produce better stuff without fail. Even then it couldn't just start forcibly taxing people and seizing private property without private insurance companies from intervening on their clients behalf.

Yeah I need to take him off that chart. Gary is just a low tax liberal faggot

>Anarchy
Literally babby's first ideology

Scarcity will always exist... Humanity is too efficient at depleting resources. Technology advancements from the beginning of recorded history until now have shown that... After beating disease with medicine and vaccine, hunger with revolutionary agricultural practices and goods production with industrial technology, humanity moved into a phase of extreme and unimpeded growth until today and we are finally starting to see the constraints and boundary conditions come into focus. As they come into focus, there is conflict (just like with the Oil crisis, and the impending monetary crisis that everyone is predicting)... In those times of conflict, loss of life is inevitable ... And then a new innovation arrives and disrupts the conflict, beginning a new phase of unimpeded growth...

Without governance, I and a group of well trained operators can take control of an atomic weapon and do some serious damage during the conflict phases..

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>Scarcity will always exist
"Post-scarcity" doesn't literally refer to zero scarcity.

Every one of those, maybe except Anarcho Individualism are:
>Idiotic
>Non Anarchic at all
>Logically can not work

Green anarchism i guess.
But I advocate for a small government that protects the people from injustice and maintains a resource based capital system. No private property and a basic resource income.

Anarchism is retarded. OP is a 13 years old edgelord

What does that even mean?

more like i build and own the road

Anarchy wouldn't work, especially in America. This generation can't even succeed or take care of themselves with the government helping them. What makes you think they could do it without the government bending over for them?

Where the fuck is anarcho-capitalism?

>muh roads
kys

>Anarcho Individualism
more like anarcho-autism

Gary "bake the cake" Johnson

OP here, Ancaps aren't real anarchists, hope that helps :^)

oh

Anarchy would only be functional with small communities of white people living with the 19th century technological level.
Besides that, enjoy your ooga booga.

Fuck you, I wanna build my own roads. With all the yellow lines now replaced with yellow penises.

The yellow penises will be smaller than the white penises obviously.

anarcho-capitalist are pre-monarchist wanting at best having 7billions of king(obviously there will be way less)

to make it simple they want to destroy the international status-quo and restart from scratch

>to make it simple they want to destroy the international status-quo and restart from scratch
Shame that it could actually work if brown people didn't exist.

> Not being glorious Anarcho Syndicalist master race.
It's like you don't want to be free workers.

ron paul has mentioned how ancap is sort of hte ideal/end goal and gary isn't a libertarian

you can allways kill them if they try to conquer your "country"

Doesn't work other than as a thought experiment. All political systems derive from force as you'll never get 100% of people to agree to everything.

WOW

not even one of those in the OP's pics are actual Anarchism.....

Its like your trying to equate freedom to the bullshit feminists SJW's greens and pacifists come out with....

well here is your $.5

I don't know.
It's sort of my thing

I identify with pic-related

>honour is valued above all else
>be honest with your intentions
>no trickery or lies
>hard work is rewarded with gifts and a chance for elevation in power, responsibility and authority
>great workout routine and body building encouraged

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> Stabbed in back by aspiring chaos champion six steps away from Khorne granting you Daemonhood.
> Honor.

The only honor is in the spilling of blood and taking of lives, in the service of Khorne. Everything else is pure individualist dogma. Your death will be meaningless, your agonised suffering fit only to feed the warp. None will even know your name.

>What does pol think of anarchy as a political alternative to the current system.
Stupid. Its worse than what people think that Libertarian politics are. Every time I see somebody say they are a socialist-anarchist or a communist-anarchist I cant help but chuckle a bit because they are two diametrically opposed views but at the same time they are some of the most unrealistic political ideologies than people have thought up. Also most of the people I have seen who support this stuff are jobless college freshman on their first public politics display kick or something slightly better than criminal or naive and unlearned and inexperienced 30 somethings.

>all these hipsters pushing their special snowflake brand of anarchy plus arbitrary rules

Actual anarchy would destroy them.

>scarce=higher number of credits

Mass shortages. "Bread lines" for whatever commodity you're talking about.

Again,
> Not being anarcho-syndicalist master race.

Tzeentchian lies.

A back-stabbing Champion of Khorne is destined for spawndom.

Anarcho-communism any day.

And what might your ultimately superior political idology be darling

People aren't smart enough to be anarchists. So they pretend to be interested in Marxism (next best thing!) while enjoying all of the benefits of living off the labor of the global proletariat.

>LGBT anarchism

Anarcho-Primitivism mixed with Syndicalism.

^^^

Anything on the bottom half is pants-on-head retarded. Maybe Anarchio-Pacifism would be viable, but good luck implementing that.

Anarchio-Pacifism would be the least viable as all pacifism relies on someone else taking care of your shit because you don't want to be a bit of a meanie.

Cocrkoaches.
Once you show them real power they will be the firt who are going to beg force mercy or run. They say fuck the system but fail to understand that the bullying peacfull citizens who are did nothing against them. They only protesting against them beacuse the CAN do it.

You fool.
There is no true higher knowledge but the change itself. You can't work against change. All of the other Gods Khorne ,Slanesh but mostly NURGLE the catalizators of the only stable truth that any sapient lifeform can acknowledge.
Change.

Well to begin with, anarchism isnt a political system. Its anarchy. The closest you are going to get is bare bones libertarian politics where everybody sort of self governs in small communities full of people who are very alike, have common interests, and do not require outside influence (police, laws, etc.) to maintain a relatively peaceful society where things like commerce and institutions can arise. This is impossible in modern society what with people from the other side of the world being catapulted into the house down the street or super powerful corporations being more influential than ever before. Government is a necessary evil and should be constantly corrected and scrutinized lest it becomes uncontrollable.

I do not know what the best form of government is and likely never will. I can however say that anarchy or mass government is suicide.

Anarchy is inherently unstable and only worthwhile as a step towards another political system.

I take it you're pretty classically liberal leaning and I pretty much totally agree with you, I'm afraid user you are not edgy enough for this thread, go invest your mind in a fantasy to cause the end of humanity, then come back to this thread.

I know what it means. Hunger, disease and insufficient productivity cannot be ended. Population growth is a byproduct of surpluses and tends to overshoot supply... Creating crisis phases where fear and want of resources leads people to do desperate things