Leads Trump by 6 points

>Leads Trump by 6 points
Say it with me Sup Forums
Madam President

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Not shilling, not trolling, not baiting, I'm genuinely asking:
Does Trump have a chance? Is there something I'm not seeing? Are the polls an accurate representation of what's to come?

Please, if there's any good news, I need it. I'm surrounded by a liberal hell hole and need some Redpill ing good news, if it exists.

>Polls are taken from likely voters
>Lots of more people voting now, nobody voted for Romney

He really doesn't have a chance unless he actually destroys her on stage during the debates, when you judge his performance vs hers during the primaries, you can see he won't. He will use ad hominem attacks and look like an idiot while she talks policy. Not even trying to shill for hill or w/e the CTR does. He really needs to step up his game if he wants to win. Pic related is the current polling by state. At this point Trump needs to win Ohio, Florida, North Carolina and ALL the other swing states to win. All of them. if he loses a single swing state its done.

Pic related is a fairly accurate, so far, prediction of November 8th I made back in May. As the days go on it is looking more and more like he is going to be getting LESS than I afforded him here.

Madam Colostomy Bag.

Can he overcome his own stupidity? News at 11.

he really doesn't
only 9 million people voted for him during primaries. it might seem like a lot but to win you might need more than 50+million voters

he already tarnished his reputation with reagan-type republicans by hiring the breitbart guy. he's toast

We have no clear metric to suggest he can win at this point.
We can discredit the polls to an extent, but we have no counter evidence other than "look how big his rallys are, look how many Trump signs I see.

Not really. He might get close in raw votes, but he's going to get rekt when it comes to the electoral college.

Best strategy is to start planning for 2020, and hope the RNC doesn't fuck everything up again.

Madam Merkel 2

That's too bad to hear.
Thanks tho.

>hiring political operatives is what ruined him
wew lad

Madam terrorist.

First a black president, next a woman, after that a transgender. The ride wont end.

>only an idiot would vote in a crooked piece of shit like Clinton...but then again you are Americans.

it did tho. his new campaign manger has a hate boner for ryan and the majority leader, whatever his fucking name is. and more people are already dropping him

you all know that her pissbag will explode during the debates

>yfw every post in here is a bot post

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>Trump makes himself appear an asshole to already crumbling Republican Base
>Long Time Republicans switch sides just to ensure he loses
>Independents steal votes from both sides

Lots of people are not voting for either this year. Apathy is at an all time high, despite what the primary numbers say. For most people voting though its a matter of preservation or the unknown. Most are going with preservation. You may like the unknown, so may millions of others, but even more don't like that. I think the phrase goes, people don't like change?

I doubt he'll win Ohio.

Kasich said he won't vote for him, and he's quite a popular governor, he also lost the primary there.

Also can anyone tell me why the fuck is Trump campaigning in Conneticut, Portland and other areas like this?

He should focus on Ohio and Pennsylvania the most, and Florida as well.

Is his stuff this retarded?

Judging by all the staff shake ups, he is campaigning where he wants to and not listening to advisers. There is a very high chance he isn't even trying to win at all and just trying to gain notoriety in states where it matters so he can fund something after the election.

In response to my map, I did say it was the best case and more and more states are not lining up anymore. its pretty obvious with Hillary now having, on CNN, 538, and RCP, the 270 needed to win, that he loses unless an incredible terrorist attack or debate slam happens.

I feel like I should make it clear, I am voting for a third party. I have no stake in who wins at this point. I am just happy to watch Sup Forums meltdown over the next 4 months.

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If it's all the same to you, I'd rather stick with reality and have you say with me President Donald J. Trump.

>but muh polls

Trump wants to tour the entire country to send the message he actually cares about it as a whole, not just getting elected by concentrating on swing states. I honestly like the strategy. It engages people around the country. Maybe they talk with friends and relatives and the movement spreads.

Same here, can't wait for the meltdown.

Yeah, I think he just wants the popularity. Poor guy got into this for the publicity and won because the GOP went full retard, and now pride won't let him quit.

I don't think even a terrorist attack, except a 9/11 kind of attack, will help him, the Orlando shooting didn't bump his numbers in the poll.

I'm curious what do you think the map will look like? No ''best case scenario for Trump/Clinton''.

>OP actually thinks this is going to happen
Damn, you shills are stupid.
He's ALREADY president and you idiots don't even realize it.

I agree about needing a happening to bump him. There could also be a scandal on the Clinton side. Unfortunately the Right has cried wolf so many times the public may be immune to a real scandal.

I wonder which third party you're going with, as Stein and Johnson are both pretty shitty candidates who came off horribly during their CNN town halls.

You guys really need a wake up call. Help him if you want him to win. You keep saying polls can lie and linking to Brexit polls from weeks before but in reality Brexit showed a very close race up until the end.

Link Related: ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/

Polls do matter. They really do. If you act like they don't you set yourself up for a Romney all over again. I don't want to see you frantically doing napkin math on Fox while Ms. Kelly escorts you to the back to show you Hillary won. I want you to see that there is a chance, if you personally help him. Donate. Do something. Don't sit on Sup Forums and cry about the polls not mattering, because they absolutely do.

This is a losing strategy. He is wasting time and resources on Deep Blue states when he could be campaigning in states like Wisconsin and Ohio. He is quite literally wasting his time and money for no discernible reason.

>inb4 my 34DD Chest

Down from 10
She's trending downward friend

If you'll believe Sup Forums multiple major news organisations that are independent from each other are all corrupt and for some reason trying to get Hillary into the White House.

its not going to be a full landslide she's probably going to get the same electorals like in obama got in 2008
trump shot himself in the foot after going after both republicans and the khans at the same time

>>Polls do matter.

Yeah, notice how the real clear politics poll in that image had him slightly over obama at that point? Don't get me wrong, I'm hardly predicting a win at this point, this race is going to be a fucking roller coaster ride, but fuck man the debates haven't even happened yet.

or he wastes resources on states he'll never win and loses the election because of this.

Seriously, he shouldn't even campaign outside Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida and NC.

Eh, I doubt rallies really persuade any voters locally. He'll get the same tv and news coverage whether he speaks in Las Vegas or Milwaukee.

I think she'll get NC, but I doubt she''l get Indiana.

What's your opinion on Georgia and Arizona?

>Liberals claim to be peaceful
>Liberals claim to be compassionate
>Liberals claim to be against war
>Liberals claim to support Islam

And yet the person they support is a psychopathic killer


youtube.com/watch?v=OqbDBRWb63s - The Truth About Hillary Clinton's Mental Illness

youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM - "We came, we saw, he died! LAUGHS" (Gaddafi)

youtube.com/watch?v=O894bXmqqGU - Hillary Clinton openly states she wants war with Iran to protect Israel

youtube.com/watch?v=xvhBoF_pCHo - Hillary laughs maniacally about war with Iran

I agree with both on quite a few issues but unfortunately for Jill, she comes off as a lunatic with rhetoric about Nuclear Technology and Vaccines. I chose Johnson and Weld, despite the poor Town Hall they ran I agree with quite a bit of what they say, much more than I do with either Clinton or Trump.

She was at 5.5 on Thursday. She is at 6.0 right now.

She is steady 5 points in front of him. That is a bigger lead than Obama EVER had over Romney. Romney lost by nearly 100 Electoral Votes. You can do the math. Stop trying to remain hopeful that things will change if they stay the same user, because they quite simply won't.

Debates or no Debates. Romney had multiple leads over Obama by decent numbers. They were tied, within margin of error most of the race. Trump has not even been close to Hillary except right after two major terrorist attacks and during his own convention. It really is WORSE than 2012 for him.

Rallies do not persuade new/apathetic voters, they never really have. They are meant to reassure already confirmed voters.

Indianafag here. If she wins this state it has nothing to do with Trump. It is because of Pence and only Pence.
You post this in literally every thread with a single negative response to Trump. I wonder who the REAL shills are?

no one is going to vote for this vapid cunt.

Is Pence disliked there? Why?

I live in swing state Nevada now, but I used to live in Utah. That Romney in 2012 (accurately) knew the state would go for him since he was Republican and Mormon pissed me off. Voters don't like being taken for granted and concentrating just on swing states does just that.

Like I said, I doubt Trump's stops really matter anyway. Now, where he concentrates his advertising is a different story.

nobody knows what to make of anything. clinton will not pull obama numbers, trump is a wild card and nobody knows what he'll really pull.

Lol, faggot. He will murder Hillary on live television. You suffer fom stockholm syndrome, but it's alright. We're saving you from impending spiritual doom. No need to thank us.

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Its a very long story but he tried to pass a bill that allowed people to not cater to a specific person or group based on sexuality, gender, race, etc. The bill was fairly standard and similar ones have been making the rounds all around the country, however Pence was a fool and despite HUGE pushback from both Republicans and Democrats in the State legislature tried to put the bill through anyway. He cost the state at least 2 confirmed conventions in Indianapolis (Millions in Revenue) and he almost cost the entire state Angie's List, which is a huge company for Indiana. He ended up not signing it into law but by the time it had been decided the damage was already done. He was not going to get reelected (judging by the fact that he groveled to Trump, he knew that) and he cost the state an estimated Millions in Revenue. We had to spend money, once again, Millions, to hire a PR firm to make our state look normal again.

Pence is so disliked in Indiana that a Democrat is currently winning Governor and the DC Cats are all leaning Democrat right now. Pence fucked up so bad he turned local legislatures that have been Red for DECADES into Blue.

Very nice use of Ad Hominem, its such a fun little fallacy to use. You should have tried some tu quoque though. Its a bit harder to recognize.

>regarding Stein
Yeah, and her militant black activist running mate was a poor choice. Still, I hope she gets at least 5% to get the Greens some funding. I'm a registered Green to throw some membership numbers their way but I plan to vote Trump mostly because he's literally the only choice for people who oppose illegal immigration.

Hmm, didn't know he's so disliked..
Thanks for the info.

Also, what do you think of Georgia and Arizona? I hear talks of it, but don't really know the details, could the states flip?

You are a faggot. The elections were rigged for Obama. He is a New World Order puppet. Stop being so fucking naive. This is real spiritual warfare. Do you even understand what the fuck that means? You little pea brain. Your brain is trapped in simplistic thinking and a lack of creativity or intelligence. I don't care what the rigged polls say. Hillary Clinton is an old, tired, corrupt, rich elitist Wall Street Washington D.C. whore slut. Nobody likes her. She is a fucking joke. She shits herself in public and can barely communicate without either having a seizure or acting like someone with aspergers. She has no tact and has no idea how to relate to anyone besides corny, middle aged white women. She is the ulimate fucking dweeb. Hillary Clinton probably got bullied in college. She just seems that fucking lame. AND she is completely evil. Same with Obama: Obama is a dumb, stuttering, bumbling stoner retard monkey nigger. He can't even get through a thought without a projector without shutting down and stuttering like a moron. Fuck the both of them. We don't want the New World Order. We want a free country. It's that simple.

I don't understand this. All these people saying he had no shot.

Well what the fuck had Hillary done?!

>She never rallies, she hasn't had a press conference in over 200 days, she doesn't help out like Trump did today in Louisiana, she is LITERALLY a criminal (and yes that word is used in the right sense), her criminality has been proven by email leaks which are 100% real, she's gotten people killed across the world, she destabilized the middle East, and she helped create these present threat of ISIS.

HOW THE FUCK IS SHE WINNING????? AM I IN FUCKING BIZARRO WORLD??? WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED????

Please, somebody explain, I feel like I'm taking CRAZY pills.

Realistically? No. Neither state can flip. Obama was the best shot at flipping Georgia, due to his skin color, and he didn't manage to do it. I cannot really see Hillary actively flipping either of those states. Check this post for a map of states and how they leaned as of a few days ago. Grey on the right are classified as Swing.
Whatever floats your boat my man. Just trying to help your cause by showing you the truth :^)

They're probably just shills having a pretend conversation. Famous technique. Read up on cointel on the internet.

Has anyone took screenshots of some crazy comments, for when the meltdown will happen?

>duhhhhrrrrr im a fucking retard
>i can only reply with smug phrases and gay fucking memes
I want to STRANGLE YOU. OH MY GOD!!!!

Not holding a press conference actually helps her.

I lose hope everyday. I won't not vote for Trump, but I lose hope. I've just had so many disappointments in my life, I give up on things and lose hope quickly.

>trump needs to win every single swing state

STOP SAYING THIS INCORRECT SHIT YOU FUCKING MORON WHY DONT YOU ACTUALLY LEARN WHAT A FUCKING SWING STATE IS AND THE POSSIBLE WAYS TO WIN

She is winning, because despite her long list of issues she is still considered more stable by most CEOs, Women, and Minorities. All of which have a strong influence on the voter metrics of the country. There is also a bit of a factor that we cannot measure until after the election, but there is a high chance that, despite the very high turn out at the primaries, quite a few republicans will not have gotten behind Trump because of his rhetoric and because Kasich and Cruz never backed him. Its a real issue the party has had since 2008 and it doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon. An issue of unity.

Not a shill. Sup Forums poster who has been here since it was known as /new/ the first time. Way back in 2011.

You keep using Ad Hominem as you post. If you want to have a serious conversation about why I am wrong, and believe me i am willing to listen, go for it. Shitposting helps no one see eye to eye.

Its not incorrect at all. He has to win all of the swing states to win. All of them. its not incorrect. It isn't. If he wins all the key ones (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida) he will still lose if he doesn't have the others. He has to actually win all of them at this point to win.

How about, instead of going crazy and throwing shit like a nigger money, you simply post the ''correct'' information and bring arguments to support it?

You get all your information from Sup Forums and alt right news, don't you?

Hillary is focusing on smaller rallies in key states. Mega rallies are mostly a political move to show that you have strong support. People who drive many kilometers to show up to mega rallies tend to be people who already want to vote. But if you're undecided and hear that one of the candidates is talking at the town hall, you'd mosey down there to listen.

The fact is politicans are politically correct for a reason. You become unpopular if you aren't. Extreme views chase away independents and moderates.

>Trump needs to win every single Swing State
One problem. California is now a Swing State. Hillary Clinton's pathetic performance so far has put Democrat Strongholds utterly in jeopardy.

Did you even read what I said? Acknowledge the part about cointel. You need to understand that there is massive shilling going on. Learn how to spot it. Call it out. Don't be afraid to get vitriolic. In a place where there isn't much threat of social embarrassment, these shills need to be taken down with pure verbal attacks. You need to argue your fucking brain into a frenzy with these shills. Get yourself riled up. Don't fucking lose hope. Society likes hope and passion. Have passion for what you believe in, or die with a look of indifference. Make your choice, brother.

Take a fucking screenshot of this. For the love of god do it.!!

Also include me me in it, if you want..

What the fuck are you talking about? Trump holds his mega rallies IN key states. He's had so many here in Florida.

Not true at all. I assume you are referring to the new poll that shows them neck and neck from LA Times? That poll is a national level poll. Its a poll for the whole country. It is also the only one out this week that shows them that close. Its a standout result.

Here is the particular poll I am sure you are referring to. graphics.latimes.com/usc-presidential-poll-dashboard/

>Leads Trump by 6 points

OMFG YOU'RE RIGHT, SAY IT WITH ME Sup Forums, PRESIDENT DUKAKIS!

I choose to fight. Whether it be digital or physical. If ever the time comes for a new revolution or civil war, you bet your ass I'll be there.

she's keeping her mouth shut thats what's keeping her on the top of the polls
she's not the one that's killing trump. trump is the one killing himself, had he kept a sane tone post convention he would have been tied with hillary

mfw dukakis won NY despite the entire state literally going red outside of NYC
nice trips btw

>Stable
She's on meds. That's bullshit. And if Trump loses; bye bye Republican party.

>Its not incorrect at all. He has to win all of the swing states to win. All of them. its not incorrect. It isn't. If he wins all the key ones (Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida) he will still lose if he doesn't have the others. He has to actually win all of them at this point to win.


THE FUCKING SWING STATES (OBJECTIVELY AS IN NOT MY OPINION BUT THE ACTUAL TRUTH) ARE AS FOLLOWS:
NEVADA
NEW HAMPSHIRE
FLORIDA
OHIO
IOWA
VIRGINIA
PENNSYLVANIA
NORTH CAROLINA

AND THATS DISCOUNTING THE THREE TECHNICAL SWING STATES
WISCONSIN
MINNESOTA
COLORADO

HE CAN WIN FLORIDA, PENNSYLVANIA, OHIO, AND NORTH CAROLINA AND WIN WHILE LOSING ALL THE OTHERS

HE CAN WIN NORTH CAROLINA, FLORIDA, OHIO, VIRGINIA, AND EITHER IOWA/NEW HAMPSHIRE/NEVADA AND LOSE ALL THE OTHERS

SO NO YOU MASSIVE FUCKING MORON, HE DOES NOT LOSE IF HE LOSES EVEN A SINGLE SWING STATE GOT IT

Honestly this.

She didn't do anything to lower his numbers, he did it by himself.

Exactly, I'm getting myself into shape because I know we are headed for some form of collapse.

Yes, if Hillary has a "lead" in the polls of 6 points than Trump probably already have a majority support.

You have to look at the latest elections in Europe in order to understand why this is.

Polls continuously underestimate the right wing support with several percent.

Trump most likely in a lead atm.

See not that hard to actually come with information and arguments, makes for better conversations this way.

Al though the caps lock is not needed.

where the fuck did you get the idea that california is now a swing state?
NY, trumps homeplace, has hillary over trump by 30 points

I applaud you for basically telling that stupid ad hominem shitposter to fuck off.

She is still, with the meds, seeming more stable to the public.

At a technical level. Swing States change ever election cycle. I would argue you are correct, in this instance, and my wording was wrong, however, Trump cannot win either of those combinations effectively at the moment. Multiple states listed in your combinations are deep blue. A few of them are deep red. Face the music bud, its over unless he stumps her HARD at the debates.

Also this.

It's a pretty smart thing the Democrats are doing, focusing so heavily on campaigning in densely populated urban areas while simultaneously populating them with non-whites for safe votes.

I can't believe California has so many fucking electoral votes, unbelievable. My state has fucking four. Four. But the shittiest, most degenerate state in the entire union has the most sway in general election, unbelievable. No wonder globalists want to flood it with fucking mexicans.

I need to find some way to get back in shape faster. I used to be in good shape. Then I gained about 20 pounds over a year. Shit sucks. But I still have great strength.

It's based on population mate...

I'm legitimately scared the intense MSM shilling will make him lose.
Every single main stream channel shits on him constantly, how the fuck can his campaign withstand this?
I can't wait for the debates. It was so much fun to watch Trump crush Cruz and Jeb, I hope he annihilates Clinton live.

Look where it is getting Trump. Trump keeps talking and talking and talking. It makes it so much easier to demonize him and continually report negative stories on him. If Trump wanted to win he would have shut up awhile ago. He has gone past the point of no return.

Prepare for the worst. I don't have guns right now but I sure as hell going to get some now since they are letting a criminal to be elected as president.

I will have to trust Paine on this.
>It is the madness of folly, to expect mercy from those who have refused to do justice

The way the electoral votes work is based on a metric of size and population, if I am not mistaken. That is why your shitty little red state full of corn fields and potatoes is less important than California, a state with such a huge economy it alone is in the top 30 economies of the world.

...

Isn't California also the richest state? It makes sense that they have more say since they more taxes than you corn farmers.

I've got plenty of guns, and I'm working on getting some more.

This so hard. I'm not paying attention to this thread as much, but I caught this comment and it struck a chord with me. I've noticed this a lot all over the internet - any discussion forum, no matter where it is - detractors will come in and hold a private conversation, typically acting as some moral authority.

It makes anarcho-tyranny really obvious when they approach a discussion on a serious crime, like terrorism or something like that - and they start holding a private conversation with themselves, not talking about the OP but talking about how everyone is close minded, etc. They immediately position themselves as some moral authority. In the real world, in person, if someone basically sat down at your table and did that shit it would be all over their face showing how fucking crazy their behavior is.

Main debates are different, much more focused on policy and I believe the crowd isn't allowed to cheer...etc.

The cheering helped Trump a lot, and made his opponents look foolish.
Also when Trump debated only Rubio, Cruz and Kasich, everyone said he did poorer.

But I agree, the debates will be decisive for the elections.

Try #6 economy (thanks Brexit for moving the UK out of they way).

it would've been the 9th biggest economy if i'm not mistaking.

It was an uphill battle before they picked the joke candidate that divided their own party up between moderates and radicals.

Elections aren't about who you're voting for they're about who you're voting against and Trump is one of the most vote-against-able people on the planet right now.

Sorry, I used a wide term to describe it because I didn't wanna be wrong. Hurts your arguments to be wrong.

It goes by population. Since California is VERY populated it gets the most electoral votes. Good news on the electoral votes though, there is diminishing returns. Due to having a large population its population isn't fully represented with votes in regards to their population.

Then you look at states like Wyoming that are significantly less populated but they actually get more votes in regards of their population.

Thank god for the population cap.

I'm aware of how it works. In comparison, this is equivalent to the EU and Germany having too much influence over the entirety of Europe, with canceror Merkel acting as queen of the EU dictating how the "irrelevant countries" should operate.

They have too much influence in the general election. It's bullshit, no state should be like this.

The only crowds cheering at the Republican debates were against Trump. He even called them out multiple times for jeering him and applauding stupid shit Rubio or Jeb would say.

Trump NEEDS to attack Hillary from her left like Bernie, but he may be too committed to Republican party-line Reaganomics bullshit by this point. Remains to be seen.

there were several debates where the crowd only boo'd trump and he called them out for being donors.

he won't get ruffled by a bad reaction. hillary will.

It divided it because he's not in the pitchers of other people. He's not working to get them more money, he's working to restore power back to the people, and give the politicians less power.

Actually, that is how it should work. If it didn't work like that you think the talk of "Rigged Elections" is bad now? Oh man it would be worse. Way worse.

Pockets* not pitchers

Sup Forums is under attack via ideological subterfuge. Don't worry my man, Trump is doing fantastic, as Hillary's only real support is from millenials and illegals, the former of which vote much less than the older folks, of whom heavily favor trump.

Illegals are an issue we will have to contend with however