What are some good "adult" comics, not in the porn sense, but in the sense that they maybe explore interesting ideas...

What are some good "adult" comics, not in the porn sense, but in the sense that they maybe explore interesting ideas, history, have some shred of realism, etc.

Maybe something like Vinland Saga, Musashi, Berserk (sorta kinda) of the manga world.

I realize how pretentious "adult" sounds, especially on here, but maybe you know what I mean - stuff you would feel comfortable recommending to a 20 year old, as opposed to something like Naruto, Ninja Turtles, etc.

Should probably look towards European comics for that.

Look at Image comics and other indie publishers, they'll have variety of what you're looking for.

You can find war stories, detective, crime, biographical stuff. Some of it is genre work or even comedy, but there's plenty of material of substance.

Just browsing through my bookshelf, Alan's War, The Alcoholic, Incognegro, Scalped.

There's more lowkey genre stuff like 100% by Paul Poe, Velvet by Ed Brubaker, a few others I could recommend.

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Thanks for the replies guys.

America produces plenty of comics of substance, Sup Forums doesn't read them.

>Maybe something like Vinland Saga, Musashi, Berserk (sorta kinda) of the manga world.

I didn't care for Northlanders , but Brian Wood is a strong writer, if a little boring.

Becky Cloonan's "Ink and Thunder" trilogy Wolves/Demeter/the Mire are pretty good supernatural horror fantasy.

I'll get eaten alive for saying this, but Saga by Brian K Vaughn is a story about new parents that happens to take place in an elaborate fantasy/scifi world. Sup Forums can't stand how well liked the comic is so I've seen it be widely rejected here.

East of West is also a very good scifi/biblical/western alternate history story.

Swamp thing, Animal Man, Sandman, Watchmen, Hellblazer, Lucifer, etc. Basically early Moore, early Vertigo, and early Morrison.

>no early Milligan with Shade and Enigma

OP here....I herd Moore's a wizard tho.

Well, you're not wrong, so I have to ask what you have against wizards.

Love and Rockets

Brubaker's Catwoman dealed with the hardships of trying to change yourself for the better and personal disappointment.

It was one of the best runs DC put out in the early 2000s.

Persepolis

I wouldn't recommend Love and Rockets to anyone, young or old. It fucking sucks.

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Nah, I actually like the guy, though I haven't read any of his shit (or a single comic in my life).

The art is really uggo though.

Stewart's alright.
Cooke did the first arc which is probably the best of the series, but the rest of it was by no means bad.

Cool.

Disregard this shit-eater, OP.

Thanks for reminding me of one of my favorite Beto one pagers.

I liked Selina's big score more than that run I think, I just really enjoyed the idea of a parker novel set in the DCU

Anybody have that Johnny Ryan "indie comics" parody?

Vertigo stuff is actually pretty shallow once you read actual books on the subject.

Road to Perdition.
Hugo Pratt's Corto Maltese.
Garth Ennis' War Story (especially the first two volumes).
Eric Powell's The Goon (starts pretty goofy and funny, goes sour very hard in the best possible way).
Charley's War.

This.

Also this:

Ty. Didn't Garth do some Punisher stuff?

Yes. If you're interested, go for Punisher MAX. Much like Goon, starts more crime genre with shades of dark humor, but gets seriously bleak really goddamn fast. You should also check Punisher Born, a miniseries about Frank's time in 'Nam, and Fury MAX: My War Gone By, a 13 issue maxiseries about Nick Fury's time in the Cold War which should be right up your alley.
As a rule of thumb, most Garth Ennis war comics are top tier.

It provides a look at the recent history of Iran that I rarely see in western media. And no, Sup Forumssters, I will not bother replying to any baity comments about religion.

Really good examination of the life and culture of the American midwest mixed with a good amount of horror elements and several ongoing mysteries, all connected to Revival Day, when the recently deceased in a small area of Wisconsin suddenly rose from the dead, completely sentient. Very engaging.

just read vertigo comics

Thanks, I have seen parts of some of those, they are what made me look into comics.

Thanks for the recommendations. Holy shit, I don't know if it's night-time or this board is just on par with /diy/, /tg/, etc in terms of not being full of dicks.

>adult comics
>zombie shit

Hate is sort of in that same group as the Love & Rockets, Eightball, or Acme Novelty Library stuff. Misanthropic asshole named Buddy Bradley and his shit life. I listened to a Simon Hanselmann interview recently where he mentioned its influence on Megg, Mogg, and Owl if you're into that. He said more people should be ripping off Hate and I agree.

It depends on the thread and time of day, usually you'll have incessant capeshitposting and console war bullshit going on.

I'd recommend Epileptic, Pyongyang, anything illustrated by Kerascoet (Beauty, Beautiful Darkness, etc), and a plethora of OGNs. You won't find much of actual substance in Marvel or DC's catalogs though there is some. I'd also recommend Hellboy, it gets pretty in-depth with its folklore, and it deals with some seriously heavy shit once you start catching up to the current run. Lots of fantastic stuff to glean from that series that's not super obvious at first glance.

Bagge is also political in it and in a way that would probably meld very well with a lot of people who browse Sup Forums

>complaining about capes and console wars then doing it in the same post.

People have already posted big two recs, quit being so pretentious because you have different preferences.

Hellboy
BPRD
Dylan Dog
The Walking Dead
V for Vendetta
Black Hole
The Incal
Tomboy
Rumble
Rat King

The TMNT comics are heavy as fuck. In the new series they were all decapitated and reborn as animals.
The first time they beat Shredder in the original mirage series Leo offered him a sword and told him to kill himself and they stopped terrorist attacks and shit.

>Berserk
>shred of realism

oh i am laffin

next you'll say Gantz had realism

>The Tale of One Bad Rat by Brian Talbot
Expect it to get very dusty where ever you are when you read it
>Pride of Baghdad
Powerful political allegory
>Logicomics
Biography of Bertram Russell

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I wish Vertigo was better now, I miss stuff like Tim Hunter.

Kind of a worn-out trope at this point (person gets superpowers in an otherwise ordinary world), but still good.

Revival isn't even about zombie shit.

>I'll get eaten alive for saying this, but Saga by Brian K Vaughn is a story about new parents that happens to take place in an elaborate fantasy/scifi world. Sup Forums can't stand how well liked the comic is so I've seen it be widely rejected here.

Back when Saga was first released, it was popular here and got storytimed a lot. Same with Fraction's Hawkeye in the early days. The hate for those two series developed later.

I suggest books by Hugo Pratt, like Corto Maltese (pretty unique), Desert Scorpions (war adventures), or Ernie Pike (short war stories). Ballad of the Salty Sea really reads like a novel.

I don't know if the Johnathan books by Cosey have been translated in english, It's semi-autobiographic roadtrips on every corner of the world with fantastique elements. It's GOAT.

For things that are regularly storytimed on Sup Forums:
Blacksad have nice dectective stories in anthropomorphic 1960 america, and is generally well-liked.
Delisle has some nice journey logs like Pyong-Yang. It's not completely free of bias, but it offers interesting insights.

If you want non-violent adult manga, read Jiro Tanigushi. A Distant Neighborhood in particular.

Also, eurocomics sometimes have strange definitions about what is mature. Pic is from Alexia's Daemons, a series that was published in Spirou, a magazine aimed at children. There's black magic and ritual murders in almost every issue. Here's one of the heroes, a necromancer casanova.

Black Science - A father jumping through dimensions with his science team and kids hoping to find a way home.

I Kill Giants - A young girl deals with her life though her fantasies of killing giants.

East of West - Alternate history's future. 4 horsemen of the apocalypse are around and it has a wild west setting. Lots of interesting character interaction.

Pride of Baghdad - Lions from a zoo survive in a Baghdad that has been recently carpet bombed.

Watchmen - It's fucking Watchmen.

Saga - A couple from two warring alien species have a kid together and are trying to raise her on the run.

Deadpool - Has some really bad runs (fuck Way), but the original Kelly run establishes a funny character with tragic elements and some nice meta jokes on comics and their industry. As well, the Duggan run starts slow but really digs into the tragic side of Deadpool as it goes on.

Animal Man - Morrison's run is a head trip of meta-ideas and the Lemire run is a nice horror take on a man who can gain the power of any animal he wants.

Miracle Man - Moore, the same writer as Watchmen, reinvented a British superhero tackling what a god amongst men means. Written 5 years before watchmen it tackles similar themes but is a little rougher around the edges.

Fables - Fairytale characters are hiding in the real world. The big bad wolf is a detective in their community.

Also, even though I wouldn't call Ninja Turtles "adult", I have no problem recommending them to someone over 20. I'm 23 and I love the Mirage series and the IDW series. Both continuities are filled with interesting characters that go on fun adventures. There is a huge tonal difference between the comics and the 80s' cartoon.

Shit in Fables I meant the big bad wolf is the Sherrif, not a detective.

Tomboy,
Young Terrorist
GodKiller
TankGirl 2 girls 1 tank,
Hillbilly

A lot of 90s Dark Horse, old Eclipse titles (Scout being my favorite), tons of Japanese shit, tons of yuropooristanian shit, American Flagg!, Ronin and anything else by Frank Miller from about 1989 up through like 1999 or so (Spawn/Batman and RoboCop vs. Terminator excluded [not that they're bad comics, they just aren't "adult"]).

Avoid Image or any modern indie publishers. Fucking hipster faggotry and licensed books is all they publish.

Hipster faggotry.

None of these are really "adult".

These are solid recommendations.

In general avoid superhero comics as they're inherently absurd and not "adult".

One of the worst comics ever made.

>babby's first camics.jpg

These suck though.

Everything about this post is wrong. Sup Forums needs to let go of the idea that superhero comics are anything other than silliness and fluff (not saying there's anything wrong with that, but they aren't "adult").

Sheriff of Babylon

>We will never get more Catwoman art from Darwyn.

;_;

Uber has a similarly adventurous feeling, a science fantasy story about stratagem unfolding during world war 2, with Legends of the Galaictic Heroes type descriptions thrown about.

The beginning is top-heavy though. The story only starts to get interesting once they begin characterizing the main characters, and they do that kind of slowly.

>uber
>mature
I wouldn't say that.
Also, the fact that they can't draw historic gear to save his life annoys me to no end. Get some reference sheets, dammit.

Sheriff of Babylon

From Hell maybe?

Well, its not power of friendship, and its not unlike the manga OP listed. I think OP was pretty vague though, so uber is an approximation, and probably less so because it happened to already be on my mind.

>Hey guys, Imma softporn artist peddling exotic costume porn, lemme just make a well-researched series about a paintress working at the moghul court.

>Guyse, I'm most famous for my conspiracy-thrillers, lemme make a series about a brewer's dynasty.

>Mature comics for mature persons such as myself.

>I'm a fucking good artist who has made a lot of comics about South America, so imma gonna make a two-parter about a gay seminary-student and painter who gets caugth up with left-wing guerillas in Nicaragua.

>I really liked this novel about a small-time prostitute and a crook turned middle manager trying to scam the family of the crook's transvestite boss, imma make a comic out of it.

>and next, I'll team up with a dude who's running a vineyard and we'll explain the ins and outs of each other's jobs to each others. To round that out, we'll go and meet famous winemakers and comic creators and have them comment on the field from their perspective.

Zünd a best.

A best.

If you talk shit about Zünd, I'll have a birdman from another dimension puke pre-digested food down your throath until you love it.

>If you want non-violent adult manga, read Jiro Tanigushi. A Distant Neighborhood in particular.

Jiro Tanighushi basically is the only living person who writes and draws manly comics for men that are dealing with men's issues and feelings. He's great.

7 missionaires by Ayroles and Critone is a blast. I'd recommend it to anyone.
It's about seven monks, one for each deadly sin, being sent on a suicide mission to convert some vikings, so they'd stop raiding monasteries.
It's hilarious, with lots of action and depth.

Tbh, this series had a very decent bodycount.

I don't see how anyone could disagree with you.
Do you know it there's an official translation or a new recent scanlation?
I want to do storytimes of Alexia, but the first scanlation is a bit approximative at times.

>Do you know it there's an official translation or a new recent scanlation?
>I want to do storytimes of Alexia, but the first scanlation is a bit approximative at times.

Nah, sorry, we scanlated everything available and I don't think the artist picked the series up again yet. Not that it would mattter, because first off you'd have to find a new team to pick up where we stopped.

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>I know what I want to do! I'm going to make a surreal meta-series about the mechanism of the comic book as a physical medium. You won't be able to digitize those without experiencing a significant loss in meaning that can only be somewhat made up by adding photos of the physical book.

>TankGirl 2 girls 1 tank
I like tank girl but god that name is atrocious

>there was a civil war on the other side of the shore recently, so lemme make a YA graphic novel about teenagers growing up around the edges of one. It casually discusses family and class-issues and how they shape people's outlooks.

>African middle class issues

I don't mention him because of the abundant sex freak material. He's just the best.

>Let's make a League of the Extraordinary Gentlmen-style cape comic that explains why there are practically no superpowered heros left in European comics.
>featuring various period pulp heros and villians and SS-kelettons, lots of SS-kelettons

>Bob Morane and Black & Mortimer cameo.
I'm so glad this comic exists.

>Really good examination of the life and culture of the American midwest

Group sex and crossdressing dudes being considered serious heterosexual marriage material included? Apparently Republicans ranting about lesbian farmers is basically another case of the coastal elite trying to destroy the midwest culture of rugged. liberal individualism.

I think he meant in terms of character development. Guts is a very believable, human protagonist. Emotionally spekaing ofc. No fucking way a 20 year old dude is that strong, nigga's like half giant.

>Hipsters like it, therefore it's intrinsically bad