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What do you guys do as far as accent/dialect choices for languages that are spoken in many places? For example, I'm studying Spanish and I've learned the general Latin American dialect my entire life, but most of the slang and idioms that I pick up are from Spaniards. I also want to learn French, but I'm not sure whether I should study the Parisian dialect or the Quebec dialect when I'm working on conversation.
Jose Reed
Also: How many of you are studying a language in some sort of formal education setting like high school or university? If so, what sort of activities do you do outside of class to practice, and how much time do you devote to the language outside of class?
Me personally, I'm studying Spanish and Portuguese at the university level. Besides homework I do some language exchanges with the Brazilians and Spaniards here, and all my devices are in Spanish, but that's it.
Andrew Martinez
I started studying spanish from Spain but what I noticed as i got better is that it really doesn't matter since 99% of the language really is the same anway. Also you will pick up on colloquialisms from many different countries by immersing yourself and talking to native speakers and you should have no problem communicating as long as you know the basics of the language.
Jeremiah Hill
After the over the top poetry from last times, something lighter as translation challenges this time
Shorter quote: >Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it.
Longer quote >Something wonderful, if you took the long view, was about to happen. >If you took the short or medium view, something horrible was about to happen. >It’s like the difference between seeing a beautiful new star in the winter sky and actually being close to the supernova. It’s the difference between the beauty of morning dew on a cobweb and actually being a fly.
Both sourced to Terry Pratchett's Reaper Man.
Michael Martin
Anyone here studying linguistics? What branches do you like?
Charles Perez
La luz cree que va más rapida que cualquier cosa pero se equivoca. No importa cuán rapida va la luz, encuentra que la oscuridad ha llegado allí primero esperándola
Logan Foster
Don't learn the québec dialect, you'll sound retarded
Logan Lee
right, I have traveled to different spanish speaking countries and had no problem, I was just thinking about how when you just learn a sort of "general" dialect it's more obvious that you're a non native speaker because people can't really pin you to one region or another.
I'm studying linguistics, I think morphology and phonetics are my favorite. It's invaluable in learning languages. Idk why it's not a requirement for language majors.
Ethan Ward
I think it's time to start taking my target language seriously after more than four years of bullshitting around it. Seriously depressing to think that I could be fluent right now if I stayed committed.
Jace Morales
I just started studying, but so far those are my favorite subjects too. There is just something so fascinating about how we comprehend sound so differently in different language, especially stuff like allophony and assimilation.
Easton Torres
What language?
Logan Myers
just practice every day, even for a little while. Although it is the second language I am learning, I am picking up Polish words every now and then, but the noun declension for me is still a bit of a jungle. Still very fun though.
Gavin Campbell
yeah it really is fascinating, and its super helpful for proper pronunciation! I took a syntax course when I first started and I fucking hated it, and also did really poorly. I wish I could retake it now that I take school more seriously because I'd imagine it would help with understanding non germanic or romance languages.
Jaxon Cooper
And russian
Aaron Morales
It really helped me with Japanese. After implosives and lateral fricatives, a simple alveolar tap or bilabial fricative is nothing.
Easton Ortiz
może to moje środowisko, ale obecnie zauważam, że jest wielu ludzi próbujących uczyć się języka polskiego chodźmy!
Nicholas Anderson
Are you a native speaker of Hebrew? Have you heard Aramaic (the closest related living language, I think) and if so how much can you understand? Just wondering, as a speaker of it. Here are some links of the eastern dialects which I can only assume are a little further from Hebrew:
And yes, I'm looking for an excuse to bring it up as nobody here seems to be learning it.
By the way, how much is Talmud studied? It doesn't seem like it's very widely studied, but I don't know.
Justin Baker
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Julian Williams
Yeah m8 well, im only in my first semester of linguistics. So im in ling 101. But i plan to get into language revitalization. About to start going into our morphology unit
Xavier Thompson
Going to self-study historical comparative linguistics, but been working too much.
Fuck I won't be able to do this til tomorrow. Don't die thread
Aaron Diaz
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Elijah King
>Are you a native speaker of Hebrew? Yes>Have you heard Aramaic (the closest related living language, I think) and if so how much can you understand? There are a lot of common idioms and prayers in Aramaic. If you give me a simple sentence I might be able to understand the general idea, but I couldn't understand anything from these videos because they are spoken with an Arabic accent (which might be the correct accent), and I'm used to hearing all of those phrases in the Israeli/Hebrew accent, and reading Aramic written in Hebrew
>By the way, how much is Talmud studied? Only in religious schools. I literally haven't seen a Talmud page in my life
Isaac Parker
>language revitalization Since you are Canadian, I guess this is mainly about Native American languages, yeah? Really cool, American languages are cool, and language preservation is very important
Nathaniel Garcia
does any1 want to chat on kik to practice language? I can help with polish. Looking for a russian friend
Wyatt Peterson
Russian
Isaac Garcia
>but I couldn't understand anything from these videos because they are spoken with an Arabic accent (which might be the correct accent)
Many speakers started getting influenced by Arabic over the last century, due to Iraq and Arabization attempts. The 2nd video's dialect is both extra Arabic influenced and actually Akkadian influenced. The last video is pretty 'creative' in pronunciation and members of the church are somewhat more likely to know and use Arabic, so it might not be the right accent. But the other two are
Here is the spoken dialect that is presumably closest to what the classical one should sound like. It's not eastern.
Aramaic also needs protection/revitalization. I. S. I. S. destroyed one of the largest towns speaking it, which speaks one of the most conservative and Akkadian-influenced dialects, known as Qaraqosh. It has stopped being a native language in the borders of modern Lebanon in the last 200-100 years alone.
John Cooper
Where to learn Aramaic?
Carson Bell
In Aramia
Jack Parker
It was hard to find subtitled videos in case you're interested, but here are two
It depends on the dialect. The main dialect group today is Northeastern, spoken by eastern 'Assyrians' and Assyrian/Kurdish Jews. Some Western scholars have documented it, here is a trecent part lecture by aa British linguist who has written books about it. youtube.com/watch?v=LcxDEnKm1w8. I believe the Churches speaking it teach it and some middle eastern schools. Maybe you should find a native speaker. Maybe I should make an int wiki article or something since I keep talking about it and heard people want the wiki to grow but I don't think there are many resources.
The Aramaic homeland is the fertile crescent and certain parts of Iran, especially nowadays upper Mesopotamia. The original Arameans are a distinct ancient people, which as can be seen in the 2nd subtitled video some western Assyrians claim to descend from.
Caleb Powell
Recent three part lecture, I meant to say.
Grayson Cook
I usually try to chose sources with the accent I like more /want to mimic (whenever possible, it's hard as fuck to learn eu PT for this very same reason). Learn metropolitan french btw.
Parker Morris
Sadly many languages need help. So many of them will vanish in the next century or two ;_;
Joseph Turner
I never had a choice in English for obvious reasons. Here, British English is seen as exotic as fuck (and saying you speak it will make most people think you're pulling their leg). Haven't thought about it at all in French, but I suppose I'll pick up the Parisian accent since we don't have canadian learning material. And in any case, if I can't understand quebecois people I'll just learn.
Julian Walker
La lumière croit qu'elle bouge plus rapide que quoique ce soit mais ce n'est pas vrai. Même avec tout sa vitesse, la lumière toujours trouve que, n'importe où elle va, l'obscurité est déjà arrivée en avance et qu'elle l'attend.
Jaxon Ross
Think I should have used découvre instead of trouve desu. Well rip
James Lee
Attál, lü. Qtaloča ti ^_^
How do you say this in your language?
>Can't undo the trudeau
Aupaliţiřçoiř -Třûdôô!
Jeremiah Nelson
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Gavin Murphy
Is the Cree speaker/learner here by any chance?
Levi Allen
?מי עוד פה לומד עברית
Levi Cruz
I lerne Deutsch seit zwei Monats, und bisher habe ich Filmen schauen und Anki nutzen zu lernen. Kann jeder mich erzählen welche Methode ihr nutzen? Korrekturen sind willkommen.
Benjamin Cooper
still studying russian
Henry Parker
I had some German in highschool but I didn't care about it but some of it got stuck in my head. Obviously Ich instead of I in a first word. Plural of Monat is Monate, not Monats, I don't know if it shouldn't be in Dativ (Monaten). But better wait for Hans to check it out
Landon Russell
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Jacob Reed
Francophones learn standard (Parisian) French in school.
