>Haha remember that whole genocide of the airbenders from the last series and what it meant for the avatar universe as a whole? Well HA WHO CARES just have some new airbenders anyway because we say so and spirit magic or something!
How did Bryke manage to ruin their own shit so badly? They could have at least made them find some secluded sect of airbenders somewhere or something. This is some cop out bullshittery.
Andrew Barnes
I didn't like it because they didn't really embody any of the Air Nomad philosophy at all Air Nomads are now world police I guess And Airbending is really, really easy
Angel Collins
This.
Blake Cox
They didn't get genocided though.
Adrian Russell
>Cultures should never change or evolve with the times! They should stay exactly how they are forever!
I'll bet you're that same faggot who threw a thread-long tantrum over Toph having character development.
Isaac Robinson
I think you missed the point ...
Matthew Perry
Enlighten us then, oh great seer of points.
Easton Carter
>Cultures should never change or evolve with the times! They should stay exactly how they are forever! Well yeah. That's how real cultures have worked for centuries.
Isaac Scott
>Cultures should never change or evolve with the times! They should stay exactly how they are forever! Nobody was saying anything like this, just that the spirt magic randomly giving people air bender power was a cop out. I like that they brought back airbending I just dont like how they explained it.
Parker Reyes
Fair enough.
Landon Roberts
The Samurai seem to disagree with you.
Nolan Evans
>Cultures should never change or evolve with the times! No one is saying that. It's the way it went down that's kind of shitty. OP even gave an alternative way they could have gotten their abilities you reaching tard.
Sebastian Foster
The alternative was for Tenzen to have more kids
And for his kids to have at least 4 children each
Jason Morris
Would've preferred this tbqh.
Kevin Jenkins
They went from 100% white to 1%
Liam Parker
user his wife already pushed four of the little bastards, a woman can only take so much.
Lucas Hall
Well, Aang was into brown chicks.
Mason Nelson
If those fire aztec people could exist hidden away then why couldn't there be airbenders hidden away?
There were in the card game anyway. Its a shame they scrapped that idea.
Luke Scott
Four children is hardly a lot, especially if you trying to rebuild an entire culture.
Jason Turner
I'm not against it per say, but it was botched. Here's how they should have done it:
1. Introduce a minor Airbender character in season 1 or 2 that's descended from an Airbender that ended up hiding in the Earth Kingdom and intermarrying with them. Do to a spiritual lifestyle, the end up developing Airbending. This is done to show some Airbenders survived, but their culture died out do to persecution and the need to blend in.
2. Explain the new Airbenders as having been the descendants of past Airbenders who's latent bending had awoken. Also casually mention that more benders in general also appeared after Harmonic Convergence.
If this was done it wouldn't be the "it's spirits, I don't got to explain shit" we got.
Jacob Torres
>Toph having character development She didn't though. She's still the same irresponsible, brazen girl but, one, now in the body of a decrepit and saggy-titted old hag instead of a loli. She never learned a damn thing and how her daughters turned out shows it clearly.
Ian Harris
Wasn't she a ghost?
Gabriel Campbell
I seen many women have up to 12 kids in a single lifetime. Underestimating the capacity of a lady to have children is a mistake.
Hunter Morgan
Yeah, they're just tanned airbenders.
Asher Flores
It sure it shit won't be Aang's other kids.
Nicholas Taylor
How did the air nomads have kids in the first place? The men and women didn't live together. Aange didn't act like he had parents. Did the tribes get together to have an orgy and just raise the kids community
Jayden Ramirez
The story was that people assumed she was a ghost because of her airbending abilities and because no one ever got a clear look at her.
Daniel Flores
Korra might as well be an AU.
Jose Roberts
Yes
Hunter Ortiz
What really pissed me off about this season was how powerful Zaheer was *just* because he was an airbender. Like the other three had unique niches in their bending style, which made them formidable, but until the finale Zaheer is a global, avatar besting antagonist just because he's an airbender.
Completely undermines Aang's airbending skill and makes it seem like if Aang was any other element he wouldn't have made it past episode 6.
David Barnes
He wan't that good at airbending though, Tenzin was wiping the floor with him until the others came to back Zaheer up.
Isaiah Turner
I never got that. >insanely spiritual, wise, thoughtful culture >can't have co-ed classes because people can't control themselves
what?
Leo Peterson
Which is exactly my point. As much as I fucking loved that scene, it punched a huge hole in the plot. If Tenzin is so much better at airbending than Zaheer, and people clearly can't beat airbenders anymore as seen with Zaheer's success, why isn't Tenzin wiping the floor with everyone he faces? Shouldn't it have twice the effect?
Evan Lewis
PON FAR!
the men lived two of the temples and the women lived at the other two. they visited each other regularly but no permanent co habitation. when boys are born and get to be like 7 years old. They are sent to live with the men.
Landon Smith
youre getting into power level-tier arguing here.
Zaheer was a bad ass air bender because he trained to become one before he even was cappable of air bending. so when the switch flipped, he was instantly near master status,
I say near because he was beaten by an actual master.
Landon Lopez
Which brings us full circle back to the " air bending is really easy" problem. That's like saying he wanked for forty years and then when the day finally came he was a near master in bed.
Not quite how that works dude, is all I'm saying.
Robert Russell
She had that development when she was working her butt off training a police force.
After that she just went back to being Toph and wanting to be alone. After she'd lived with her other daughter in her Metal City for a decade or so.
Jeremiah Ross
Lot of martial arts is study of form and in particular when regarding Air Bending following a philosophy.
He also had a connection to the Spirit World so even when locked in a cell he wasn't really "locked away"
Brayden Evans
neither did the Armenians.
Parker Clark
It would make more sense if air benders came from the general world population and we're given to the air temples like the jedi did.
Samuel Parker
I'm just mad he never faced Unalaq and never straight up WRECKED him for messing with Jinora and Korra.
Jonathan Baker
Hush Turkey.
Brody Bell
Bending is "genetic" in this world, that's probably what happened in the past and eventually all the airbender "genes" got concentrated exclusively in the air temples.
Matthew Gomez
Have you seen a baptist family?
Christian Ross
Because Tenzin didn't have a lot of things in the series
Christopher Flores
Not any dumber than Sozin managing to kill ALL the airbenders during the comet.
Josiah White
Air makes fire stronger
David Parker
Its actually true. Coed schooling lowers both genders performance on the task at hand.
At least for the teenage years.
Thomas Robinson
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Gabriel Roberts
The main thing with genocide is not so much them effectively ending an ethnic group. Most real genocides didn't manage that and nobody pretends they don't count because of it.
Oliver Torres
i was never really into loli until Jinora and Ikki
Landon Rivera
THIS ruined the show for you? it wasnt anything else, just the Airbenders coming back?
Joshua Myers
This is a wushia movie logic. Not fighting for years means nothing to your actual habilities.
Why people always ignore these common trope conventions?
Isaac Barnes
Never it is said that he killed ALL of them. On the card games and on a comic, there are evidences of FN persecuting remaining air nomads
Elijah Torres
While that is a Wuxia convention most of the audience do not mainly (or even often) watch Wuxia shows and movies so the writers shouldn't have relied on them being used to a certain trope if indeed that was what they were going for
Ethan Young
Satsuma Rebellion
Christopher Watson
This was far from the worst part Sure, it came about through bullshit circumstances, but this wasn't the thing that "ruined their shit"
Ian Harris
You think it would have been easier to say that a lot of Airbenders escaped the temples and hid in the Earth Kingdom for the last two hundred yuears.
Just have either random airbender villages here and there around the desert, or make them a totally hidden society within Ba Sing Se or something. Then have them all come out and show the world Airbenders exist again in korra's time. Seems easy enough without spirit magic mcguffin.
Jaxson Barnes
>They went from 100% white
Where were there any Whites among the Air Nomads? Or the whole of the Avatar-verse?
Levi Garcia
>yuears
Ryder Walker
>They could have at least made them find some secluded sect of airbenders somewhere or something. That would have ruined the original tragedy way harder than the admittedly stupid direction they ended up going in.
Juan Smith
> millions of people die > I only care about weeaboo magic
Alright, let's ignore the fact that you're a piece of shit and just focus on the emergence of airbenders again. They could've been the bastard descendants of wandering airbenders. It could've been the fucking once in a millennia event that just shit magic all over the world, who cares?
Mystery is good you fucking nerds. You hear me? It's a show about magic and mystical arts. The last fucking thing we need is to hear about their fucking midichlorians.
Ryan Jenkins
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Justin Stewart
That would shit all over Aang's character arc as the sole survivor of a long dead civilization.
Kevin Lewis
>Sun Warriors can hide away IN ONE SPOT and not be found for thousands of years >Not a single air NOMAD can hide away somewhere and they all somehow get their shit wrecked
Jayden Cruz
Hey don't you start saying that the "Avatar: the Last Airbender" cartoon is asking you to accept things.
Thomas Baker
Even in his fights, Zaheer was constantly stumbling around and making less-than-graceful movements. He spent most of the season running away from fights until he get flight.
Lucas Gomez
>core tenet of airbender philosophy are nomadic traveling save for a handful of religious sites populated by monks and such >what we see of the monks tends to imply a peaceful noninterventionest philosophy and literal pacifism I mean yeah there were probably other sects and stuff but the only living Air Nomad was Aang and he bought into the pacifisitic no kill shit so hard he let a genocidal warmonger live.
That is your only living memory of Air Nomad culture. In Korra they become interventionist world police. Not even gonna touch the inbreeding issue.
Sebastian Stewart
korra haters are fucking stupid
Jeremiah Stewart
no thay fucking didn't
John James
My mother pushed out 8
She clearly wasn't trying hard enough
Elijah Gray
Just this. Everyone is fucking Aang now
Nathan Hughes
you didnt watch the show did you
Grayson King
We don't know that. All we saw was was a handful of them and they were taking up the duty they'd promised to since Korra had been seriously injured.
Daniel Bennett
I mean, is it really character development if it all happens off screen, and then the next time we see her she's literally no different than when she was a child, despite being like 80+ years old?
I mean, sure, we do get a flashback that shows she was corrupt while acting as chief of police, and used her influence to get her kid off the hook for her many crimes, and was a shit mother in general.
But... Anyone who knew Toph could've predicted she'd grow up to be a terrible mother and a corrupt policewoman. That's hardly a change in character at all. I think the most surprising part is that she joined the police at all, but then I suppose sociopaths are attracted to power, so the checks out, too.
David Anderson
The Avatarverse works a lot with copouts. Not only in Korra.
Adrian Sanders
The new species of Sky Bison/Lemurs was a severe copout
Carter Rogers
So you are bitching that they pushed the reset button and further because it's not a total reset despite story wise it doesn't make sense that the new generation is exactly as the same as the old.
Benjamin Jackson
Not really. It was bound to happen at some point. Seculuded species rediscover happens a few times in the modern world.
Dylan Watson
Aang found Momo after the Air Nomad Genocide.
Bison can fly. How would the fire nation kill them all before they had airplanes?
Kayden Turner
>hey could have at least made them find some secluded sect of airbenders
But then Aang wouldn't have been the LAST Airbender, ya dingus!
Wyatt Allen
>Seculuded
Justin Long
>And for his kids to have at least 4 children each
I'd make as many kids with Jinora and Ikki as they needed.
Henry Green
It's a little easier for Pema, considering she has an entire sect of airbendaboos on hand as babysitters.
Cooper Ramirez
Plus, the Fire Nation was only trying to kill all the air nomads. They didn't really care about sky bison and lemurs, since the Avatar can't be reborn as those things.
Charles Sullivan
>so the checks out
Jeremiah Myers
They didnt ruin a thing. I do not think that bending would be a purely genetic thing, its like people who can roll their tongues or do the spock thing with their hands. some can, some cant. and its not because of the parents that kids can do things. As I am sure there are things you can do neither of your parents could, to limit airbending to specific breeding only from or between airbenders is stupid.
but I suppose if you had your way they would do exactly that and there would just be a lot of inbreeding and your childish expectations would be met.
Jaxon Howard
But magical appearing airbenders didn't shit on anything at all?
Levi Lee
Hey user
Your idea is shit and so are you
fuck off and die now
Joseph Howard
they probably are only interested in other airbenders to have more chance of increasing the population of their nation. Your weak genes will never even touch them.
Oliver Reyes
>and there would just be a lot of inbreeding Each of Tenzin's kids would go out and have, let's say, two kids with a non-bender. Then those children continue on no inbreeding occurs.
>But magical appearing airbenders didn't shit on anything at all? There was a catalyst for it. It's not like they just appeared when everything was going as normal. And it was airbending, not exactly air nomads. Tenzin tried to make them into the old ways but they couldn't be the air nomads of old. But they have a duty that they can follow and be stewards to the nations like how they were before long ago as Tenzin explains.