I know this question has been around for ages, but I really want to know - what shall be the deciding factor for consent? There are girls who are absolute morons aged 18 plus and I don't think they understand the consequence of quick sex, but I guess even they can give consent. And there are 14 year olds who are highly sophisticated people with a clear mind and knowledge of the short, medium and long term consequences of sex.
So, are we protecting society when we raise the age of consent to 18 or the individuals?
Caleb King
I think Saudi Arabia has the right idea of it being age 2-I mean 12
Jack Campbell
9
Sebastian Smith
If you're against muh sluts, muh abortion, muh welfare single mothers, only marry muh pure virgins, then the only right answer is 18.
Alexander Evans
I don't know. 18 seems high. I'd say about 14 was when I could have fully consented.
Juan Perez
Consent isn't bound to age. Anyone can consent to sex.
The question should be at what age do we stop imprisoning the person who gets consent. Let's stop equating fucking an underage, but willing, person with rape. They're not the same thing.
If kids can't consent, then how do doctors operate on them? How do they get medication? How do they purchase items, since they can't consent to a transaction?
They CAN consent. It's just a question of whether we punish the person for taking advantage of them.
Xavier Parker
Whenever they can't say the word "yes".
Aaron Allen
16 after marriage that both parents wanted
Blake Gomez
Age of consent = (your age)/2 + 7 With a hard limit at 13 and up
Michael Reyes
14 but no pre-marital sex
Ethan Baker
Maybe, but then you are setting the age based on conditions other than consent. 18 is the age in many areas simply because that is the oldest you could possibly make it.
Jaxson Campbell
>If you're against muh sluts, muh abortion, muh welfare single mothers, only marry muh pure virgins, then the only right answer is 18. I would assume the right answer would then be the age of consent is "whenever you are married", no?
Matthew Martinez
Here in Canada it's 16, seems to be one of the few things we got right. Of course some individuals might be mature earlier, and some will be immature later, but we need a good cut-off point and 16 seems about right.
Blake Lopez
I don't know any 14 year olds that are ready to be mothers. If it weren't for divorce being an option I would say that any age after puberty is okay so long as they get married. But today marriage doesn't mean anything, it's just a temporary engagement where people lie to themselves and others and get "married" to avoid what little shame is left for them being together and having kids outside of marriage.
Jace Hill
You've been brainwashed by feminists. 50 year old women made that rule up to shame older men from fucking younger women. It is feminist bullshit.
Samuel Garcia
No, when I'm 50, I reserve the right to fuck 18 year old sluts.
Jason Collins
Grass on the wicket, let's play cricket
Lincoln Hall
Sex leads to babies. If a girl is not yet ready to be a mother and you're not ready to marry her and be responsible for her babies, then you shouldn't be sleeping with her. Unless you approve of abortion and don't call women sluts for losing their virginity at a young age. Can't have it both ways.
Carter Hughes
Sorry, 32 is your limit.
Jayden Jackson
why not just make it at the average age puberty ends?
Nathaniel Adams
12
Josiah Sullivan
>Anyone can consent to sex. Wrong, you need to have the mental capacity to consent. A 6 month old baby doesn't understand sex, let alone anything really. How could there be consent. A 5 year old doesn't understand either.
We can argue whether a 10 year old sufficiently understands the concept of sex - probably the answer is yes. But the question is whether consent for a 10 year old should be valid, as we need to protect society from child predators, in order to avoid harm for the kids' development.
Kevin Lee
According to this place that hates women for having sex for any other reason, yes.
Cooper Rivera
Whats up with all the pedo shills today, you should just kill yourself you fucking degenerates.
Isaiah Bell
the burger is right
look at ancient societies the romans and the greeks for expample had an age of consent of 10 and 11. and was it that bad?
>feminist eternaly btfo
James Harris
>this post >that pic hmmm...
John Carter
25
Jayden Taylor
99 ought to be the age of consent. This world needs to end already.
Ian Smith
18. Saying anything lower than 18 is pedo tier
Easton Nguyen
I've considered this question myself. The most common ages of consent are arbitrarily decided. I've come to the conclusion that age of consent should be set when the brain has fully matured, because then the person is fully informed and considered a true adult.
Alexander Russell
plato, socrates and all the other lunatics we look up today shagged hordes of teens, within age of consence 2bh kek senpai xtx
Jose Hall
>it's just a temporary engagement where people lie to themselves and others and get "married" to avoid what little shame is left for them being together and having kids outside of marriage. I don't see marriage like that. If I marry, I want to last it forever and ever. Although I guess that is the reason I can't find a girl to marry - they think I am crazy to get married and actually mean it.
Henry Morales
>tfw 29 and fucking 2 18 year olds that both live 2 mins away in different directions
>one is athletic and tall >other one is fat with HHHs
Anthony Fisher
Yes you certainly can have it both ways. Nothing you said contradict at all. The age of consent predates the sexual revolution or widespread abortion. The age of consent existed for eons before it was acceptable to have abortions or have sex outside of marriage. I don't know why you see a connection between these things. No one else does or did.
Hudson Watson
Fourteen should be the min age. Girls and boys as young as that have been fucking and sometimes marrying since the beginning of time.
Logan Morgan
Hold on there kid, are you thinking of having sex? Care to take the brain-o-measure test first?
Andrew Cruz
12 for platonic relationships 14 for sex with significant other + protection 16 for one night stands with protection 18 for unprotected sex
Alexander Hernandez
sex is for reproduction reproduction is for civilization get married or dont fuck dont marry kids, they're bad breeders.
Christopher Myers
18.
However, anyone over 30 really shouldn't be trying to fuck 18 year olds. At that point you have to go at least 21-22.
Juan Cruz
>14, 16 or 18, what is the right age of consent?
Marriage
Nathan Murphy
>why not just make it at the average age puberty ends? When does puberty end? There are many stages of puberty, depending on how you define it, the average age might just be when a woman stops growing, which might be at age 18 or even 19.
James Miller
Replace with parental consent. Doesn't matter if she is 13 or 30 until she is married she is her father's property .
Brody Johnson
Feminist troll confirmed. Either a dumb cunt or a fucking faggot. Fuck off.
Christian Morris
The question is when is the brain fully mature?
Eli Sanders
18 is already high mileage tier. That pussy is no longer under warranty.
If you want that new car smell it has to be 16. Bite size mounds.
Jose Perry
So can we perform a life saving operation on a 10 year old kid? Can you legally cut open a 10 year old kid and take his inflamed appendix without his ability to give consent?
If he can't consent because he's too young, then how do we save his life? Shouldn't he be more mature before we accept his consent? Should we wait til he's 16? Or do we just find a doctor who's 12 so he can legally consent to that particular doctor?
What is consent if it applies in one scenario, but not the other? Why are we using such a stupid word when we're really just legally enforcing rules against shit that makes us feel icky?
If consent matters so much, then apply it universally. If not, admit you're abusing a term so you don't have to admit this is all about emotions.
Joseph Green
It doesn't make sense to punish a 20yo for fucking a 16yo because they're both still children I think those laws should be decriminalized. On the other hand I think we should change the age of open consent to 21 because young women should be mature enough to make good decisions by that age. 18 year old women are prey to 35+yo men, it's that simple.
Kayden Smith
So... you are ok with fucking a girl without feminine qualities?
Hi Ahmed, how're your invasion of German going?
Landon Russell
>Whats up with all the pedo shills today, you should just kill yourself you fucking degenerates.
I am not a pedo shill. The youngest woman I ever had sex with was my ex-ex-ex gf and she was 23 at the time.
Thomas Baker
15, doesn't mean you should fuck 15's only that you shouldn't go to jail because of it
Jayden Brooks
13
Gabriel Fisher
6 just like my dad told me when we used to wrestle naked in the bed.
Kayden Fisher
>sex equal to a surgery that can save a life
kill yourself.
Adam Allen
18+ for the purposes of reproduction only.
Charles Ramirez
15 is good i fuck 15 year old sluts all the time
Colton Diaz
Pedo that wants to have sex with 14 year olds but doesn't want to marry them but hates used up old sluts for having sex with older men when they were 14 confirmed.
James Ortiz
And I believe you ahmed
Gavin Murphy
Age of consent should be 14 for marriages and 21 for non married Why? Because casual sex is a mistake. Females were meant to be virgins. Look at how horrible non virgins are.
Leo Garcia
If the child is underage, the child's parents or legal guardians consent will suffice.
Lucas Howard
I want to marry a 14 year old with her father permission
Henry Ward
>sex is for reproduction >reproduction is for civilization >get married or dont fuck >dont marry kids, they're bad breeders.
That is Saudi Arabia tier, you realize that. What's the difference between people like you and the Islamist Salafists? They don't allow sex outside of marriage. They don't allow women to drive or vote. And they have dictorships.
Is that what you want? Are you all just Islamist wannabees?
Ian White
ye man the white girls love the arab cock
Juan Martin
My personal one is 18, I dont even masturbade to girls below 18 but above the legal age
Jonathan Turner
Faggot non-binary fat titty 35 year old raging cock addict man confirmed
Aiden Sanchez
>So can we perform a life saving operation on a 10 year old kid? Can you legally cut open a 10 year old kid and take his inflamed appendix without his ability to give consent? Parents give consent. Are you retarded? 10yr old kids never give consent.
Michael Reed
I hear the fringe Mormon cults are into child marriage. Check them out.
Jordan Williams
Sweden ladies and gentlemen
Jace Wright
Why do we need an AoC in general? To prevent sex underage? Just don't have sex before marriage you fucking degenerates, the only thing AoC should be there for is to protect child brides
Colton Torres
14 is no longer a child
Carson Rogers
I will also add that consent for 18 be allowed only for porn stars and prostitutes. Selectively for pure sexual relations is degenerate. No cock carousel no bad boys. Put your sexual history on display. If men still want you after it then go right ahead.
Andrew Watson
You misunderstand. I'm talking about the word 'consent', you dense faggot. Why are we using such a term when we just toss that idea out the window when it's convenient?
We're not concerned about 'consent'. It's not bound to age, else kids wouldn't be able to consent to anything - and thus they couldn't get medical treatment. Medical treatment cannot be given without consent.
How did you read everything I wrote, yet still miss the point?
Landon Turner
If age of consent is lowered across the board, then the kid at that age should have all the capabilities, law wise, required to hold any job that a person at 18+ or more can apply for. Should be the same for the ability to legally buy the firearms that are allowed to anyone else by law, drive a vechicle of any calibre (after getting the license) etc. Lowering the age of consent and throwing kids into adulthood just for fucking is retarded.
Let them be fully functional adults, with full privileges and duties of an adult from 14 or whatever, or dont lower the AOC at all.
Isaiah Morales
Ideal age of women formula is = (your age x 0 ) +24-8
Charles Foster
Why not 21?
James Williams
>every female should be accompanied by father, uncle ,brother or husband at all times t. Islama lama
Landon Myers
im not swedish im iraqi
Carson Jones
14 year old girls are the most bat-shit crazy, fucked up psycho group of humans on the planet. Right age should be 16.
Adam Cook
>I dont even masturbade to girls below 18 but above the legal age Because that would be illegal and you could go to prison for 5 years to watch child porn.
Ethan Diaz
So can the parent of a 8 year old give consent for a 56 year old to fuck their kid?
If not, then why are we discussing this in terms of 'consent'? We only use it when we want to, then ignore it when we think it's unnecessary.
Stop using such meaningless concepts to discuss this subject.
Liam Price
Like other people said, parents give consent not kids.
Your analogy is seriously bad.
Nathaniel Butler
How old was brook shields when she was fucking on that island with that 21 year old man in that movie?
Michael Roberts
>(your age x 0 ) +24-8 Oh no, I don't like 72 year old women.
Sebastian Russell
Would you support 14 year olds joining the military and voting? Would you support 14 year olds living on their own and working full time jobs? 14 year olds are not capable of making adult decisions or handling adult responsibilities. Hell, 18 year olds are barely capable of it. The brain isn't even fully developed until your 20s. Expecting a 14 year old to make a decision in their best interest that impacts the rest of your life is stupid. Ask them if they want ice cream for dinner for the rest of their lives and they'd probably say yes too.
Aaron Stewart
>So can the parent of a 8 year old give consent for a 56 year old to fuck their kid? No, that would not be in the best interest of the kid. Just as a parent cannot tell a doctor to operate on the kid if nothing is wrong with the kid. It would be child abuse.
>If not, then why are we discussing this in terms of 'consent'? Because we are talking about consent. Consent can be given by a legal guardian or by the person in question. However, when it comes to sex, the legal guardian will never be in a situation in which the decision to have sex with the kid or teenager is in the best interest of the child, so the guardian can never give consent without it being child abuse.
Nathaniel Morales
This user gets it. People only talk about the sex factor, but if you want to lower that, allow 14 year old kids to be able to do anything an adult can, if they so choose. Without those 1 in a 1000000 Cases.
Owen Murphy
>Would you support 14 year olds joining the military yes >voting? If they own land > Would you support 14 year olds living on their own and working full time jobs? If they are an orphan
Henry Bailey
I support someones right to chose to do anything.
Lucas Jackson
No age of consent, sex should only be legal when married and parents are the best judge on when their child is old enough to be able to handle a family. The state should not have a say.
Luke Phillips
How about this. Whatever you want the age to be imprison the person who consented but was underage too. I think the laws would become a lot more fair if enforcement was fair too.
Charles Rivera
In the united states anyone under 50 or female or both is incapable of making informed decisions.
Im 32 and I cannot.
Landon Myers
Called this cold. Why are you feminists so predicable?
Who says I want to fuck 14 year olds? I said I could have consented when I was 14. 14 year olds are a long way from pedo territory. They went through puberty years before. I don't find 14 year olds attractive generally.
I think people are responsible for their actions. Feminists want women not be held accountable for their own choices. I don't want to marry a used up slut. No one does. You know who never marries used up sluts? Alphas. The same men who fuck the most women are the least likely to settle down with a whore.
This isn't hypocrisy. Feminists universally suck at logic. Women could judge men the same way, they just don't. That is on women, not men. All women would have to do is start judging promiscuous men the same way women are. The fact that they don't isn't the fault of the patriarchy. It is the fault of dumb sluts.
Lucas Thomas
>14 is not a child Yeah for a non degenerate like me I wouldn't have like to been molested sexually assaulted or have people trying to fuck me at 14 while I'm trying to enjoy being innocent and hanging out with my friends.
Give people an inch and they take a mile. Unless we enforce strict rules or raise the age of consent then don't even talk about it. Lowering the age of consent isn't going to make men start marrying young girls, it's going to make girls automatically slurs by the time they hit puberty. You really want to know someone's sexual history started at 14 especially a girl's?
Caleb Ward
To be fair, most girls these days do have a sexual history by the time theyre 14-16
Samuel Sullivan
Yeah
Camden Baker
Government has no business telling anyone when they can or cannot mate.
It is perfectly natural to be attracted to any female capable of moving eggs through her ovaries and preparing them for fertilization. Though you should wait until they are 16 in most cases to begin breeding.
It is the father's and eventually the husband's responsibility to take care of his daughter/wife. Just as it is a dog breeders responsibility to take care of his bitch.
Blake Rodriguez
Well said, but...
What you're saying is that consent is irrelevant. All we're really discussing is what is in the best interest of the child. Thus, let's drop the term 'consent' and discuss that.
'Consent' is a term made by feminists to associate older/younger relationships with rape. Pure and simple. It's an excuse to call someone a rapist despite the fact that they were in a consensual arrangement with the minor.
Just to be clear, we should be discussing what's best for the kid, not a question of whether or not they can 'consent'.
Josiah Hill
Delete this
Liam Powell
Busty.
Connor Butler
That is abnormal. Get that girl a drink.
Julian Fisher
here it's 16 to have sex, 18 to produce adult material. I think those numbers are fine.