14, 16 or 18, what is the right age of consent?

I know this question has been around for ages, but I really want to know - what shall be the deciding factor for consent? There are girls who are absolute morons aged 18 plus and I don't think they understand the consequence of quick sex, but I guess even they can give consent. And there are 14 year olds who are highly sophisticated people with a clear mind and knowledge of the short, medium and long term consequences of sex.

So, are we protecting society when we raise the age of consent to 18 or the individuals?

I think Saudi Arabia has the right idea of it being age 2-I mean 12

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If you're against muh sluts, muh abortion, muh welfare single mothers, only marry muh pure virgins, then the only right answer is 18.

I don't know. 18 seems high. I'd say about 14 was when I could have fully consented.

Consent isn't bound to age. Anyone can consent to sex.

The question should be at what age do we stop imprisoning the person who gets consent. Let's stop equating fucking an underage, but willing, person with rape. They're not the same thing.

If kids can't consent, then how do doctors operate on them? How do they get medication? How do they purchase items, since they can't consent to a transaction?

They CAN consent. It's just a question of whether we punish the person for taking advantage of them.

Whenever they can't say the word "yes".

16 after marriage that both parents wanted

Age of consent = (your age)/2 + 7
With a hard limit at 13 and up

14 but no pre-marital sex

Maybe, but then you are setting the age based on conditions other than consent. 18 is the age in many areas simply because that is the oldest you could possibly make it.

>If you're against muh sluts, muh abortion, muh welfare single mothers, only marry muh pure virgins, then the only right answer is 18.
I would assume the right answer would then be the age of consent is "whenever you are married", no?

Here in Canada it's 16, seems to be one of the few things we got right. Of course some individuals might be mature earlier, and some will be immature later, but we need a good cut-off point and 16 seems about right.

I don't know any 14 year olds that are ready to be mothers. If it weren't for divorce being an option I would say that any age after puberty is okay so long as they get married. But today marriage doesn't mean anything, it's just a temporary engagement where people lie to themselves and others and get "married" to avoid what little shame is left for them being together and having kids outside of marriage.

You've been brainwashed by feminists. 50 year old women made that rule up to shame older men from fucking younger women. It is feminist bullshit.

No, when I'm 50, I reserve the right to fuck 18 year old sluts.

Grass on the wicket, let's play cricket

Sex leads to babies. If a girl is not yet ready to be a mother and you're not ready to marry her and be responsible for her babies, then you shouldn't be sleeping with her. Unless you approve of abortion and don't call women sluts for losing their virginity at a young age. Can't have it both ways.

Sorry, 32 is your limit.

why not just make it at the average age puberty ends?

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>Anyone can consent to sex.
Wrong, you need to have the mental capacity to consent. A 6 month old baby doesn't understand sex, let alone anything really. How could there be consent. A 5 year old doesn't understand either.

We can argue whether a 10 year old sufficiently understands the concept of sex - probably the answer is yes. But the question is whether consent for a 10 year old should be valid, as we need to protect society from child predators, in order to avoid harm for the kids' development.

According to this place that hates women for having sex for any other reason, yes.

Whats up with all the pedo shills today, you should just kill yourself you fucking degenerates.

the burger is right

look at ancient societies
the romans and the greeks for expample had an age of consent of 10 and 11. and was it that bad?

>feminist eternaly btfo

>this post
>that pic
hmmm...

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99 ought to be the age of consent.
This world needs to end already.

18. Saying anything lower than 18 is pedo tier

I've considered this question myself. The most common ages of consent are arbitrarily decided. I've come to the conclusion that age of consent should be set when the brain has fully matured, because then the person is fully informed and considered a true adult.

plato, socrates and all the other lunatics we look up today shagged hordes of teens, within age of consence 2bh kek senpai xtx

>it's just a temporary engagement where people lie to themselves and others and get "married" to avoid what little shame is left for them being together and having kids outside of marriage.
I don't see marriage like that. If I marry, I want to last it forever and ever. Although I guess that is the reason I can't find a girl to marry - they think I am crazy to get married and actually mean it.

>tfw 29 and fucking 2 18 year olds that both live 2 mins away in different directions

>one is athletic and tall
>other one is fat with HHHs

Yes you certainly can have it both ways. Nothing you said contradict at all. The age of consent predates the sexual revolution or widespread abortion. The age of consent existed for eons before it was acceptable to have abortions or have sex outside of marriage. I don't know why you see a connection between these things. No one else does or did.

Fourteen should be the min age. Girls and boys as young as that have been fucking and sometimes marrying since the beginning of time.

Hold on there kid, are you thinking of having sex? Care to take the brain-o-measure test first?

12 for platonic relationships
14 for sex with significant other + protection
16 for one night stands with protection
18 for unprotected sex

sex is for reproduction
reproduction is for civilization
get married or dont fuck
dont marry kids, they're bad breeders.

18.

However, anyone over 30 really shouldn't be trying to fuck 18 year olds. At that point you have to go at least 21-22.

>14, 16 or 18, what is the right age of consent?

Marriage

>why not just make it at the average age puberty ends?
When does puberty end? There are many stages of puberty, depending on how you define it, the average age might just be when a woman stops growing, which might be at age 18 or even 19.

Replace with parental consent.
Doesn't matter if she is 13 or 30 until she is married she is her father's property .

Feminist troll confirmed. Either a dumb cunt or a fucking faggot. Fuck off.

The question is when is the brain fully mature?

18 is already high mileage tier. That pussy is no longer under warranty.

If you want that new car smell it has to be 16. Bite size mounds.

So can we perform a life saving operation on a 10 year old kid? Can you legally cut open a 10 year old kid and take his inflamed appendix without his ability to give consent?

If he can't consent because he's too young, then how do we save his life? Shouldn't he be more mature before we accept his consent? Should we wait til he's 16? Or do we just find a doctor who's 12 so he can legally consent to that particular doctor?

What is consent if it applies in one scenario, but not the other? Why are we using such a stupid word when we're really just legally enforcing rules against shit that makes us feel icky?

If consent matters so much, then apply it universally. If not, admit you're abusing a term so you don't have to admit this is all about emotions.

It doesn't make sense to punish a 20yo for fucking a 16yo because they're both still children I think those laws should be decriminalized. On the other hand I think we should change the age of open consent to 21 because young women should be mature enough to make good decisions by that age. 18 year old women are prey to 35+yo men, it's that simple.

So... you are ok with fucking a girl without feminine qualities?

Hi Ahmed, how're your invasion of German going?

>Whats up with all the pedo shills today, you should just kill yourself you fucking degenerates.

I am not a pedo shill. The youngest woman I ever had sex with was my ex-ex-ex gf and she was 23 at the time.

15, doesn't mean you should fuck 15's
only that you shouldn't go to jail because of it

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6 just like my dad told me when we used to wrestle naked in the bed.

>sex equal to a surgery that can save a life

kill yourself.

18+ for the purposes of reproduction only.

15 is good
i fuck 15 year old sluts all the time

Pedo that wants to have sex with 14 year olds but doesn't want to marry them but hates used up old sluts for having sex with older men when they were 14 confirmed.

And I believe you ahmed

Age of consent should be 14 for marriages and 21 for non married
Why?
Because casual sex is a mistake. Females were meant to be virgins. Look at how horrible non virgins are.

If the child is underage, the child's parents or legal guardians consent will suffice.

I want to marry a 14 year old with her father permission

>sex is for reproduction
>reproduction is for civilization
>get married or dont fuck
>dont marry kids, they're bad breeders.

That is Saudi Arabia tier, you realize that. What's the difference between people like you and the Islamist Salafists? They don't allow sex outside of marriage. They don't allow women to drive or vote. And they have dictorships.

Is that what you want? Are you all just Islamist wannabees?

ye man
the white girls love the arab cock

My personal one is 18, I dont even masturbade to girls below 18 but above the legal age

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>So can we perform a life saving operation on a 10 year old kid? Can you legally cut open a 10 year old kid and take his inflamed appendix without his ability to give consent?
Parents give consent. Are you retarded? 10yr old kids never give consent.

I hear the fringe Mormon cults are into child marriage. Check them out.

Sweden ladies and gentlemen

Why do we need an AoC in general? To prevent sex underage? Just don't have sex before marriage you fucking degenerates, the only thing AoC should be there for is to protect child brides

14 is no longer a child

I will also add that consent for 18 be allowed only for porn stars and prostitutes.
Selectively for pure sexual relations is degenerate. No cock carousel no bad boys.
Put your sexual history on display. If men still want you after it then go right ahead.

You misunderstand. I'm talking about the word 'consent', you dense faggot. Why are we using such a term when we just toss that idea out the window when it's convenient?

We're not concerned about 'consent'. It's not bound to age, else kids wouldn't be able to consent to anything - and thus they couldn't get medical treatment. Medical treatment cannot be given without consent.

How did you read everything I wrote, yet still miss the point?

If age of consent is lowered across the board, then the kid at that age should have all the capabilities, law wise, required to hold any job that a person at 18+ or more can apply for. Should be the same for the ability to legally buy the firearms that are allowed to anyone else by law, drive a vechicle of any calibre (after getting the license) etc. Lowering the age of consent and throwing kids into adulthood just for fucking is retarded.

Let them be fully functional adults, with full privileges and duties of an adult from 14 or whatever, or dont lower the AOC at all.

Ideal age of women formula is = (your age x 0 ) +24-8

Why not 21?

>every female should be accompanied by father, uncle ,brother or husband at all times
t. Islama lama

im not swedish
im iraqi

14 year old girls are the most bat-shit crazy, fucked up psycho group of humans on the planet. Right age should be 16.

>I dont even masturbade to girls below 18 but above the legal age
Because that would be illegal and you could go to prison for 5 years to watch child porn.

So can the parent of a 8 year old give consent for a 56 year old to fuck their kid?

If not, then why are we discussing this in terms of 'consent'? We only use it when we want to, then ignore it when we think it's unnecessary.

Stop using such meaningless concepts to discuss this subject.

Like other people said, parents give consent not kids.

Your analogy is seriously bad.

How old was brook shields when she was fucking on that island with that 21 year old man in that movie?

>(your age x 0 ) +24-8
Oh no, I don't like 72 year old women.

Would you support 14 year olds joining the military and voting? Would you support 14 year olds living on their own and working full time jobs? 14 year olds are not capable of making adult decisions or handling adult responsibilities. Hell, 18 year olds are barely capable of it. The brain isn't even fully developed until your 20s. Expecting a 14 year old to make a decision in their best interest that impacts the rest of your life is stupid. Ask them if they want ice cream for dinner for the rest of their lives and they'd probably say yes too.

>So can the parent of a 8 year old give consent for a 56 year old to fuck their kid?
No, that would not be in the best interest of the kid. Just as a parent cannot tell a doctor to operate on the kid if nothing is wrong with the kid. It would be child abuse.

>If not, then why are we discussing this in terms of 'consent'?
Because we are talking about consent. Consent can be given by a legal guardian or by the person in question. However, when it comes to sex, the legal guardian will never be in a situation in which the decision to have sex with the kid or teenager is in the best interest of the child, so the guardian can never give consent without it being child abuse.

This user gets it. People only talk about the sex factor, but if you want to lower that, allow 14 year old kids to be able to do anything an adult can, if they so choose. Without those 1 in a 1000000 Cases.

>Would you support 14 year olds joining the military
yes
>voting?
If they own land
> Would you support 14 year olds living on their own and working full time jobs?
If they are an orphan

I support someones right to chose to do anything.

No age of consent, sex should only be legal when married and parents are the best judge on when their child is old enough to be able to handle a family. The state should not have a say.

How about this. Whatever you want the age to be imprison the person who consented but was underage too. I think the laws would become a lot more fair if enforcement was fair too.

In the united states anyone under 50 or female or both is incapable of making informed decisions.

Im 32 and I cannot.

Called this cold. Why are you feminists so predicable?

Who says I want to fuck 14 year olds? I said I could have consented when I was 14. 14 year olds are a long way from pedo territory. They went through puberty years before. I don't find 14 year olds attractive generally.

I think people are responsible for their actions. Feminists want women not be held accountable for their own choices. I don't want to marry a used up slut. No one does. You know who never marries used up sluts? Alphas. The same men who fuck the most women are the least likely to settle down with a whore.

This isn't hypocrisy. Feminists universally suck at logic. Women could judge men the same way, they just don't. That is on women, not men. All women would have to do is start judging promiscuous men the same way women are. The fact that they don't isn't the fault of the patriarchy. It is the fault of dumb sluts.

>14 is not a child
Yeah for a non degenerate like me I wouldn't have like to been molested sexually assaulted or have people trying to fuck me at 14 while I'm trying to enjoy being innocent and hanging out with my friends.

Give people an inch and they take a mile. Unless we enforce strict rules or raise the age of consent then don't even talk about it. Lowering the age of consent isn't going to make men start marrying young girls, it's going to make girls automatically slurs by the time they hit puberty. You really want to know someone's sexual history started at 14 especially a girl's?

To be fair, most girls these days do have a sexual history by the time theyre 14-16

Yeah

Government has no business telling anyone when they can or cannot mate.

It is perfectly natural to be attracted to any female capable of moving eggs through her ovaries and preparing them for fertilization. Though you should wait until they are 16 in most cases to begin breeding.

It is the father's and eventually the husband's responsibility to take care of his daughter/wife. Just as it is a dog breeders responsibility to take care of his bitch.

Well said, but...

What you're saying is that consent is irrelevant. All we're really discussing is what is in the best interest of the child. Thus, let's drop the term 'consent' and discuss that.

'Consent' is a term made by feminists to associate older/younger relationships with rape. Pure and simple. It's an excuse to call someone a rapist despite the fact that they were in a consensual arrangement with the minor.

Just to be clear, we should be discussing what's best for the kid, not a question of whether or not they can 'consent'.

Delete this

Busty.

That is abnormal. Get that girl a drink.

here it's 16 to have sex, 18 to produce adult material. I think those numbers are fine.