JSA Storytime: Batman and the Outsiders

Good evening owls of Sup Forums,

Time for more HALO

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(we're off tomorrow/Sunday)

time for psychedelic /d/

Reminds me of:
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have some garbage opinons regarding Hawkman!

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>So my question is, why would you ever give the spotlight to Hawkman, when Hawkgirl's an option? She has the same powers and a bigger fandom.
>it's just misogyny. Hawkman is the grumpy traditionalist while Hawkgirl can change an adapt to the present.

KITEOMORPHO

i don't have any real feelings towards them one way or the other but it's dumb to not treat them as a pair

I know its live action but that Mad Dog Arrow costume is too perfect. Like its the most accurate costume out there

Oh, her, she's the one who wrote that really snide article about how no one could possibly get into things via GL: Rebirth, and why is Hal.

Also that's funny because in Hawkworld, it's Shayera who's more trad and Katar who's the (pure) thoughtful husbando

I've spent over $40 on Avengers Academy

Help

don't do it! stop! it's not worth it!

Elle Collins also is the head writer/editor whatever at comics alliance

i feel bad ragging on people and not institutions but man i Disagree about comics a ton.

also lol forever at Hawkman is bad because nostalgia then using JLU to prove a point

HBIC

>Those floating faces
Fucking Psycho Pirate always breaking Batman's blonde daughterus

Saw a new Howard Chaykin interview today. That man's pure and honest contempt always fuels me

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> This is about Grant isn't it
kek

This may be the first page in this series that I think might look better with more modern art.

Or at least like, the Baxter paper art, where the paper was a bit more robust and could take better printing techniques.

I've warmed up to Hawkman a lot because of these threads, but I do still feel that solo Hawkgirl > solo Hawkman. But I don't see that being solo makes Hawkgirl a better character. I think Hawkgirl makes Hawkman a better character, but he doesn't make her worse.

>lol forever at Hawkman is bad because nostalgia then using JLU to prove a point
But it's not nostalgia when it's what *I* grew up with!!!!

But now that I sank that money into it, it'd be a lost investment if I stopped now!

The game? They don't deserve the money. I'm glad I realized their tricks before I sunk anything into it. I still play though. Danny is cute.

I just discovered this guy's interviews, great stuff.

>Not treating the Hawks as package deal

That's their entire fucking point, tho.

I usually never pay for this stuff but I wanted Elektra, dammit.

The trick they use to get you to pay is pretty dastardly, though. Straight up casino shit.

It's weird seeing early Alan Davis art.

Opinion discarded.

Hell Yeah.

>also lol forever at Hawkman is bad because nostalgia then using JLU to prove a point

This is why I avoided most of the discussion. Too many fucking DCAU plebs.

god she's magnificent

I have a grudging respect for Howie and yet his kinks are very much not my kinks and I find the DeFraction fondness for him while burnishing their feminist creds to be kind of ridiculous.

There are a variety of options with the Hawks but I am most fond of the package deal.

HALO IS NOT FOR SEXUAL, COLORFUL TENTACLE BLOB.

STOP.
Cancel that credit card.
Punch yourself as hard as you can in the dick when you think about spending money on cellphone games!

We should've read Doom Patrol since Way Patrol is getting released next week but instead you faggots would read this mediocre garbage by Mike fucking Barr.

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Aparo and Davis art some great shit

What YOU grew up with is wrong and dumb, what I grew up with is the correct way! Also you're probably a misogynist!

>but I do still feel that solo Hawkgirl > solo Hawkman. But I don't see that being solo makes Hawkgirl a better character. I think Hawkgirl makes Hawkman a better character, but he doesn't make her worse.
personally I think they are best as a packaged deal, silver/bronze age Hawks and Hawkworld Hawks are my favorite versions and they come as a duo

I think they could both be good solo but I do prefer Hawkman

It's really interesting how they handle the spirit and political character of the hawks in Hawkworld + the subsequent run, at least at the start. Like the US constitution totally blowing Katar's mind, and Shayera looking for the practicalities and necessities of living on earth.

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He was way better on Miracleman.

I don't know when this would be useful, but something told me to snip it.

There's a guy in the /vg/ threads who makes hacks if you're on Android and that interests you. Probably not totally worth it though for you since you already spent money, don't want to lose a game if they ever do hack detection eventually and ban people.

I'm on iOS though so I just accept that I'm not going to get everything even when they don't directly cost shards.

well, no one pitched me Doom Patrol

someone pitched me Outsiders, a few weeks back.

>twitter.com/AnotherElle/status/774316844786278400
The argument up to
>being solo makes her a better character.
Is fine but that comes from nowhere and sits unproved. Why is she a better character like that?

>First person linked
So my question is why would you ever give the spotlight to a hawk when their most interesting trait is what a convoluted mess their continuity is?

Did OP have anything else planned? We can always get to it eventually.

speaking of pitches ive been reading michelinie/jrjr Bronze Age Iron Man, pretty good stuff

>muh Hawkgirl
>John Stewart is totally a great character guys
>Starfire should be airheaded and talk weird despite one of her powers literally being instant mastery of any language
>Aquaman should be OUTRAGEOUS xD

I love the shows and all, but it's really annoying when people insist that the show versions are superior and therefore should replace the comics version.

Toon Raven is legitimately better, though

Well, MGK at least isn't a DCAU pleb, he's well and truly Legion initiated.

I'd like to read the original Doom Patrol, never read it.

Because JLU! Same argument is made for John Stewart, with a sideline of "But Mosaic!"

Fun fact: the artist who drew Mosaic would do a John book in a heartbeat, but agrees he hasn't had much of anything since then.

I was just telling someone last night about why so many old IM fans hate Matt Fraction so very much

The thing that really needs to stop is writers who hate Hawkman still including him to make him a villain/giant douche who drags the whole story down. Does anyone actually enjoy that?

My problem with a lot of the 80s stuff that gets posted in these threads is so simple, writing is mediocre as fuck. They don't have the zany/fun/out there concepts with good plotting a lot of silver age/bronze age counterparts would offer and the writing and prose aren't really as refined and plotting just isn't anything revolutionary. Art is great but eh, art is great in earlier stuff as well.

I read Fraction's up to him getting his memory back post-CW, and thought it was fine. I might revisit once I finish this run.

i had no idea madame masque was related to count neferia

It's part and parcel of "fuck continuity" IMO. Which is a legitimate opinion to me, but not one for me.

>>Aquaman should be OUTRAGEOUS xD

To be fair, I suspect this one is more "stop trying to make casuals think he's a badass, Superfriends and Family Guy have already done their damage. Work with what you've got now."

Then again, Brave and the Bold was just a great cartoon in general.

Because they don't have to be, there are different very streamlined options with distinct appeal/hooks

to be fair, the people I know who hate it are, as said, old-school IM fans who liked Tony Stark pre-CW and pre-MCU

Eh I've always maintained that cheating to get something spoils the fun.

So I think I need to drop this game like a rock before the waifus consume me for life.

Me!

And I also recommend DP

I want to read JSA next desu. NYCC will have the announcement of their return most likely unless Johns has got his clutches on the team.

>as the proud founder of the Fuck Hawkman Club (official motto: "Man, FUCK Hawkman") we support Hawkgirl replacing him always
L-look, girls, I hate men, too! See how progressive an ally I am? I-I'm one of the good ones!

I still want to know what the fuck Booch was thinking with Injustice Hawkman, it makes me cringe that so many people read that slop and now there's even more fuel for the "Hawkman is awful and no one should like him" train of thought

The last showing for that was in Injustice IIRC, but everyone was a giant douche in Injustice.

Assuming Hawkman actually dies I do have an anatomist's fascination with what they spin out of it. I don't think that Katar reincarnating as a woman someone suggested is off the table at ALL.

i'm scared of nycc, i want good legion news so bad

I storytimed all of it a couple weeks ago, eat shit.

Just out of spite I'm rescinding my recommendation of DP and seconding Michelline Iron Man.

WildStorm announcements are supposed to be NYCC too yes? Wonder if we'll get some WS character solo books again

I don't want to be a bad person but it's hard for me when I see something like "agender asexual biomale". Largely because of that last one and what it says about the others, really.

>There are a variety of options with the Hawks but I am most fond of the package deal.

The way I see it is that before Hawkgirlwomanlady, Hawkman was a straight lift out of Flash Gordon with a muddled Ancient Egyptian theme and a love for braining people with antique maces. A largely forgetable Golden Age character with one pretty bland superpower. DC's Red Raven.
After Ladyhawkblackmambazo gets set up, you get the whole true love reincarnation cycle thing and you get a universe of possibilities that would probably be best served in an anthology to show different resurrections from different eras.

Hawkgirl on her own has tended to always be, at least with her interactions with Hawkman that I've encountered, Young Girl fights Destiny of Ending Up with Growly Maceman. Or Hawkgirl gets Blacked into betraying her homeworld.

Sup Forums would get triggered and make it impossible to discuss but that might actually be interesting.

I am down for lesbian Hawks.

Chaykin seems like a really scary professor who is also super smart.

cmoooooooon Booth get to Wildstormverse

He has always been a badass in comics. People who were put off by Johns' attempts are just casual JLU/cartoon nostalgiafags.

I'm still disappointed by the Starfire solo. It boggles my mind how she's turned into a ditzy blond airheaded retard, and people have no problem with it. Even funnier, it seemed like every issue she spent some pages in some state of undress, which hey I have no problem with, but it's a headscratcher, considering people complained about that "exhibitionist" aspect of her before her solo came about.

user, Beast Boy sucks, has always sucked, and always will suck.

That alone puts Outsiders over Doom Patrol.

Well, the thing is that even Golden Age Hawkman was a package deal with Hawkgirl really quickly. And Silver Age, they came on the scene married as space cops.

Missed the last two storytimes. Anyone have ddls?

>writing is mediocre as fuck
You're out of your mind. Captain Atom, Suicide Squad and JLI were all top notch.

Then make your own storytime

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OK, so it's obvious (like, I've thought of it before, it's obvious) and that hurts it. It'd be interesting if they gave it teeth but it's also very very into easy-to-offend territory so I don't know that they would. If it didn't have teeth it'd be less than shit.

Did you storytime silver age Doom Patrol? Because I only saw Morrison's stuff.

see, we read Every Hawkman Comic from the Silver Age on, not that long ago...

I was hoping for bara Hawkman with Shayera reincarnated into a cute boy but I guess lesbians will work in a pinch

I think it's more likely they're just getting rid of Katar in favor of bringing Carter back with the JSA

I'd be shocked if they did reincarnate him again instead but did something wild with it but I think there is a small chance they might do it

>ranting about how shit YA and Harry Potter is for adults

ok Chaykin .....eyeroll

Katana is often coming out of this writing as Best Character.

>Listen, sorry I killed your husband and kids, and then made you kill your husband. Will you let me go
>Bismallah I will not let you go

>cmoooooooon Booth get to Wildstormverse
Go fuck yourself, most here want their niche titles to be good and success.

>Well, the thing is that even Golden Age Hawkman was a package deal with Hawkgirl really quickly
First comic. Though, Shiera wasn't Hawkgirl at that point. That'd come later in All Star Comics.

which means we as a collective are startlingly well-informed on the Hawkoptions and the Hawksnarl and how and why it happened

This Katana is great. She's an older woman, runs a bookstore, has strong mom tendencies, and isn't afraid to shank a motherfucker

No, I was gonna do it afterwards but did something else instead. It's a looooong episodic series, which would make it pretty easy to storytime, so maybe I'll do it since I am pretty short on time lately.

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Right, but the point stands that the characters as solo/split up is actually the more recent aberration

And I want the book with my fav character to be good and succeed.

>Captain Atom
When Bates wrote it, was good.
>Suicide Squad
Great
>JLI
Mediocre and repetitive

I'd like to see Thanagar cosmic that, if it's domestic, is very well-developed and if isn't domestic isn't Rann-Thanagar war. I'd like to see stories of other hawks in other times/places. I don't really care if the hawks are two dudes or two women or whatever, but I'd like them to be two - I don't care if they're lovers or not if they have a significant bond, either.

I think if they kill him and move to somebody else they might have to be wild with it, because do they get sales otherwise? We've already got the mini titled DEATH OF HAWKMAN, you know? And it is current, it's a gender doesn't matter/gender identity thing. We shouldn't necessarily bitch that out - if it has teeth.

My highlights this year are Foolkiller and Captain Atom, which were both a lot better than I was expected. I've read SS before so less of an impact.

holy shit Metamorpho is Stone Free?

Am I the only one who keeps reading Aurakles as Or-a-clees until they remember it's supposes to sound identical to Oracles?

What do people like Chaykin and Moore have against Harry Potter? Fuck off grandpas.

I got you, familia.

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>And it is current, it's a gender doesn't matter/gender identity thing. We shouldn't necessarily bitch that out - if it has teeth.
I really don't know who I'd want writing that. I guess Orlando comes to mind as probably the most sensitive towards LGBT issues?

It stinks.

Wallyfag please. Be thankful you got your Wally back.

Not until he Ora Oras.