Does Sup Forums think someone can be too young to face justice for the crimes they commit?

Does Sup Forums think someone can be too young to face justice for the crimes they commit?

What crimes are forgivable for a child?

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Not the ones they commited.

they should get therapy since their minds are still so much more plastic
unless they did something patently evil/psychopathic then they should be killed anyway

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger#Murder

You tell me what they should have gotten.

Those are white kids, they'll be sent to jail and raped by niggers.

Venables is the one who is certifiably insane, Thompson was just a beta male who didn't know how to tell his friend to stop because he was scared

Both those kids done their time, although one became a pedo and got sent back.

He would have just grown up to be another normalfag while I have to live a life of humiliation and rejection, good riddance.

They both should have been hung on the spot regardless

8 years is hardly enough time for a , Shit you get more for an armed robbery

You actually have them mixed up.

Any crime not done with sadistic/psychotic intention should not be punished harshly.

Can't remember all the details of the case in your picture, but I believe one of them was a legitimate psychopath while the other was just going along with it, though he could have just been the smarter psychopath of the two in prison as he clearly was involved in the torture of the boy at the time of the crime, but he seemed to regret it honestly from what I can remember.

Should have kept them in prison until they were 18 then hanged them the morning of their birthdays.

They should be taken out of the gene pool in any scenario

They murdered an innocent toddler, so they deserved the punishment.

I've wondered how your country deals with psychopaths, I know Breivik challenged the system, but how do they deal with psychopath murderers?

Why does an American keep making threads about these two?

Also it's really hard to say. I don't think they really understood what they were doing at the time, since they were so young. The reaction of the public at the time was absolutely disgusting too. I remember there being footage of people throwing stones and shit at a police van carrying one of the boys.

Idc how young they are
If they can hatch a plan to torture and murder someone they need to have their skull dashed in with a rock

A simple shot to the head solves problems such as these two.

Vile hellspawn such as these will never be reformed.

They didn't just kill the boy, they stuffed batteries up his anus for christ sake. Then left him on the rails to get cut in half.

They are sadistic psychopaths, what kind of child does that? One is back in prison for bragging about who he was when drunk and downloading cheese pizza.

Just shows you can't rehabilitate people when they are that depraved. Even children.

Yeah good point. If they hadn't killed that baby it could have grown up to be a serial killer.

intermediate kek

Actually it's 'hanged'

Maybe, it's one of the most disgusting cases I've read about. I think people underestimate children and the question of morality when sentencing.

Can't think of many cases involving psychopaths (not in my lifetime at least), but the maximum prison sentence is 21 years regardless of crime. The most disturbing case of murder in Norway I can remember involved two guys raping and killing two little girls in the late 90's, they were up for parole after 13 years.

Other way around.

i'm pretty sure there was a supreme court case where it was ruled that death penalty is considered "cruel and unusual punishment" in cases where the perpetrator is under 16.

doesn't make a bit of sense to me. no normal child is thinking about murdering someone at an age where someone could "reasonably" argue that the child didn't know what they were doing was wrong.

Thompson knew exactly what he was doing. This was not a spur of the moment thing they planned it.

Looks like a normalfag bullied you. How pathetic.

>innocent toddler

What situation would a toddler not be innocent?

It's under 18, and it does make sense because that's considered a child.

*hanged

>considered a child

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Shoulda ran em over with a train in the same area as they left that little boy.

We had this thread about 12 hours ago, famalam. Hit bump limit too. So is Sup Forums at the level of edgy we're defending child-murderers?

>murdered by a man-child

thompson and venables should have been euthanized.

it's a mercy to the killers. there's no hope to grow up as a normal human being after that. spare them that life of forever being a shunned outsider.

>Parent(s)
>Denise Bulger (now Fergus)

???

fpbp

>murdered
top cuck

No matter what happened the families of the boys would be forever tainted. I bet they had to change their last names do they didn't get harassed or killed by proxy. How can you continue loving somebody that repulsive?

I am a islamist so all crimes are forgivable by anyone pre-puberty. Children don't sin

Isn't one of them a pedo now?

I don't know, what I do know is that the parents of juvenile delinquents should be punished.

Is that why muzzies fuck little boys in the ass but don't consider it a sin?

There's a guy still living in hiding who was wrongly taken in by police for questioning. Yeah the public went batshit insane at him.

But the crimes these two committed were really fucking bad and it shocked people and you know what? I don't object to mob justice from time to time, I think all this bullshit protectionism in our prisons and our courts rewards criminals, instead of punishing them and they must be punished.

Imagine your loved ones get killed by some nigger brats and they get a slap in the wrist because muh childrun
Fucking kill them all

They got given new identities and where relocated away from where they used to live. It is against the law for any newspaper to give out their new names or publish any pictures of either of them.

I think one of them got done for child porn not long back as well and ended up going back to prison or something, I can't remember.

I thought one of them was deported to Australia and re-offended, they were both being watched by that blind Labour guy (lol) and they were given new identities and a gag order was placed internationally on anyone revealing their real identities, they are both wanted and people want to kill them. It's amazing how much protection they get. They literally get a clean slate, with a house and all that at our expense.

It's sickening.

>deported to Australia
Holy shit you guys still use Ausland as a penal colony?

They should have been executed on the spot.

Kids that do suck a cunning and wicked act will never be well-adjusted individuals. Just end their (and our) fucking misery. They fucked themselves up by committing this.

Yeah we do, I think Maxine Carr was sent there and some other high profile killers that are given new identities have been sent to Australia over the years.

Not even making it up.

He was given a new identity multiple times, and in both cases it was due to he himself revealing who he really was.

certainly not those two fuckers

that seems way too lenient, do released felons reoffend?

Holy fucking shit
They should've got the death penalty, i dont care that they were 8

Nah they never left Britain. Court had ordered monthly check ins with them, that's how Vanebles got caught the second time

>righty got v& and convicted for child pornography in 2010

should have been shot as a child

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger#2010_imprisonment_of_Venables

dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/189852/James-Bulger-killer-s-Aussie-dream

I got it from here ages ago.

What would the UCF do?

Mary Bell, read up on her.

Anything below crimes which a life sentence is generally given for. They should be more relaxed on sentencing for children though, generally only if they're in the age where they can't realistically be expected to have full understanding of what they did.

A crime of an innocent is an accident.

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafmündigkeit

here in germany children under 14 can literally do whatever they want. they are considered not be able to understand what they do.

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>implying Jon Venables isn't using an American proxy
give it up Jon
I know you're feeling proper nostalgic and all but this is your second thread in under 24 hours

Read what they did, it shows intent and they had knowledge of what they were doing, seeing as they had multiple opportunities to stop and they didn't. They also tried to cover it up, they might be young but young children differ from each other, some are smarter than others and these two were certainly smart and knew full well what they were doing and because of what they did and how they did it, they should have been tried as adults.

It's a shame we don't have the death penalty in this country anymore because these two wastes of oxygen should have been put down years ago.

N-no that's enough for one day

The perps of pic related were also under 18 as well

>Does Sup Forums think someone can be too young to face justice for the crimes they commit?

A factory produces products. Every so often a product is defect. It may be 1 in 100, 1 in 1000, 1 in 10000 - it doesn't matter, it all depends on how much the factory is willing to invest in quality control and assurance.
When a product fails, it's taken out of commission, that's plain logic. If your fridge doesn't work, you want it gone and replaced. Quite often, the cost of repairing it just isn't worth it, the item is simply thrown away and replaced with a new, working one.

We should treat society like a factory: occasionally, there will be individuals who are simply defect and unfit - it doesn't matter how or why or who's to blame for it - and those people should be removed from society, permanently.

Aren't they both banned from accessing internet? It would not surprise me if one of them was lurking around on here, some of the sick shit posted could be from them but it is odd that multiple threads like this have been created in the last few days.

No, we have one of the lowest rates of recidivism in the world. Could be the generally low amount of criminals, but for all the memes our prison system seems to work better than most give it credit for.

I say this without a hint of edge;

Those two should have just been put down.

I'm not saying parade them around with a show trial, and I'm not saying it's a deterrent or a punishment or justice or revenge.

It's just...Why would you keep them alive?

What's the purpose?

Why rehabilitate them?

They're fundamentally broken, and it benefits no one to keep them alive, and there isn't a way to pay back to society of the victim for the crime.

The same way you put down a sick pet or a dangerous dog, you just put them down.

this

I'd be stealing so much shit at age 9-13 if I knew about that

Also forgot to add, I agree it's way too lenient and I've never understood parole law being uniform across different crimes.

Parole for murder should never be an option, it's a mockery of the sentence.

HOWLING

His name was Robert Thompson.

Britain has a history of producing lower income criminals who commit hideous crimes like this, often at a young age.

One of these two even got arrested for downloading CP after getting released.

Also; Just think, these two are probably out of jail by now, and teenagers.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edlington_attacks

I can see the arguments for both sides. I don't agree with releasing them, I can see how locking them in isolation for the rest of their lives can be a form of torture which is good. But you're right, rehabilitation hasn't worked, there's a few token cases where it has but the majority of offenders re-offend.

I can see just putting them down and be done with it could work, but we have criminals begging to die, we have Muslims that want to become martyrs by being executed. I can see depriving them of that wish to die is effective at mentally torturing them. But I don't know, it's a hard debate too much to it.

> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bell

Why is the UK & Canada so obsessed with protecting these animals' privacy? They should be hunted down and killed if the state doesn't have the guts to do it themselves but no, instead the state shields them from the justice they so richly deserve.

Nah, that was a rumor.

Basically;

>Some young guy (early 20's I think) raped and murdered a little girl in a public toilet
>Turns out he had raped another child not long ago
>Turns out he had done something fucked up as a child in Britain that was not revealed (which is why the family moved to Australia)

His age matched up with those two freaks, so people were speculating, but the Brits said it wasn't him.

Australia was the recipient of a ton of former IRA snitches.

Not so long ago those boys were of marriable age and sent off to war.
They should get the same punishment any adult would have gotten.
Stop infantilizing society.

If muslims want to become a martyr, say that the lethal injection will be mixed with pig blood.
See how eager they're then.

thats why this is never taught to children under 14

>The kidnapping happened at Mall where mate used to work
>Sack of shit killer supposedly changed his name because everyone including the most ruthless prison inmates wants him dead
>People's tax money used to help hide these killers

Jesus H Christ.

It's a sort of gray area with a topic like this. If it was child soldiers in Africa who are raised to kill with no education then they don't really know any better I guess.

But shit like this, where 2 living embodiments of Micheal Myers took the time to drag a kid in the middle of a Shopping Mall to mutilate him near some train tracks and when Police came, they couldn't care less on what they did?

Kill them.

Like the Aussie poster above said, just dispose of them like a mad dog that needs to be put down.

>UK obsessed with privacy
>most CCTV per capita in the world by far

>niggers
>1990s UK

I don't even know, the rule of law applies to all and common law stems from my country so we have to respect it and honour it and it must apply to all, even the scummiest of the scum have to be protected under law if they meet the criteria for it. I don't like it, but it's a bit like free speech, it must apply to all or nothing and if you end up going down the path of removing the things you don't like then you end up falling down that slippery slope and yeah it all collapses.

Mob rule and street justice is against the law and my personal feeling is that it shouldn't be if there is concrete evidence to prove that who you go after is in fact the correct person, because we've had innocent people attacked by mob justice and that's not right.

I think the law system needs a reform for certain because it's become too lenient on criminals but that's nothing to do with the foundations of law, that's to do with all the scummy layers that have been added on over the years.

We need a good clear out of our laws and more refinement of it.

Oh right.

(you)
This and many other cases. The whole "cruel and unusual" suggested whenever a completely broken human is clearly not worth keeping alive is just postuering.
Quiet euthanizing and the psycho does not even need to know it's gonna happen.

The only debate for me on the death penalty is the problem of dubious convictions. I'm not comfortable with it unless we have a way of really being certain.

And I wouldn't apply it in the Japanese sense, who basically say;

>No, no, we're REALLY sure they did this crime

Because then it becomes;

>Well, if his conviction wasn't certain enough for the death penalty, why is it certain enough for life in jail

etc.

The actual moral argument to me is moot. Once you've committed murder (again, MURDER, not manslaughter or the many other variations of illegal homicides) you've sort of given up any moral justification for being kept alive.

In terms of deterrence...What's the point? A person doesn't stab his wife to death in a jealous rage after weighing up the pro's and con's and coming to a rational decision. Likewise, I don't think a necrophile cannibal is thinking rationally about his judicial prospects when eating the penis of a dead prostitute.

Also "rehabilitation".

The reason it works so well in 99.9% of the cases is because the perp has "aged out".

One of the factors in violent crime dropping in the U.S. was the fact that perps were getting much longer sentences. Instead of committing a violent crime at 18 and getting out at 28, they were getting out at 48. They just got Too Old For This Shit (literally, with test levels dropping).

>People are disposable cattle
>The world is a factory

Thanks for the update Brussels.

Solitary Confinement is the worst form of mental torture. You start to hallucinate after a while of sensory deprivation.

Those little devils should've been shot and if they're still alive they should be killed by the state.

And let's have woman or a flamin-faggot give that injection, right? Or, we could just keep it quiet and make sure no-one knows what happened to him. No glory on earth, and you seriously don't believe the whole "virgins in paradise for the marthyr" do you?

Should have given the two the gas chamber. Fucking kiddie killers. JUSTICE IS BLIND, KILL THEM BOTH!

What's that? Too young? You fucking leftie, pinko, commie fuck.

I almost understand kid killers better than some adult killers.

They're still sort of at an age where they don't really understand fully what it is they're doing.

Adults have even less of an excuse.

Obviously this case is a little different in that this wasn't "let's go set fire to a cat" or "let's go throw balloons of piss at the retarded kid down the street", it was "let's sexually torture and mutilate someone".

Not according to my ancestors.

Solitary/Sensory Deprivation was horrible, but apparently the cat-o-nine-tails was worse.

The bitch even reproduced. You bongs are sick fucks letting these genes perpetuate.

Pretty much a non-country but he is right.