The electric jew, electric cars are literally a meme by now

The electric jew, electric cars are literally a meme by now.
The only reason to buy one would be less taxes because they are ""better"" for the environment.
What are your thoughts on this?

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The people who want one are just going to get them so that they can virtue signal yet another time

Lots of shitposting coming out of the Netherlands this morning.

well oil pollute when burns so you can not compare the image of extraction.

You have to consider both, what are you talking about?

Unless you live in a 3rd world shit hole like Canada.

>Alberta

A wall charging hybrid isn't really a bad option, if you don't really care about the planet.

>Electric car
>meme

I for one welcome our new electric overlords. I love cars with combustion engines, but there's a bright future in racing electric cars.

Here's the stats on pic related

>0-60mph in 1.5 seconds (0-100km/h in 1.7 seconds)
>1200lb/ft of torque
>370lb curb weight
>Torque vectoring AWD

A few lithium mines are enough to provide a shitload of the stuff, lithium is cheap. Plus, batteries can be recycled.
Meanwhile, real fracking landscape looks like this.

Yeah but good luck having them work commercially in Canada when it's -40 degrees.

Commieberta was always a shithole. They are literally nigger/hick who won the lottery: province edition

In 20-30 years time the oil rush will be over and cuckgary will be looking exactly like Detroit

What will we be powering our cars and grid in 30 years? Solar and nice thoughts?

Could have been fusion for our grid, but people would rather invest in glorified silicon weeds.

>current year
>still doesn't own the wood car master race
plebs

Simple solution user. Don't live in Canada. Electric cars would work great where I live.

And commieberta? They are the most rightwing province in Canada by far, they are like Canada's texas.
What super conservative province do you come from? Quebec? Ontario?

>Move 30 million South.
Well mexico already moved 30 million north so I guess it's doable.

Wasn't there a car that could run on water?

It was bullshit. There's those that run on "water" (oxygen and hydrogen), but they are just more complicated electric cars that offer no real advantage.

>whats fracking?

Electric cars that use electricity from gas/coal plants don't make any sense at all.

They still end up producing less CO2 per miles because the conversion of fossil fuel into energy is much more efficient in a powerplant than a car engine.

>gas/coal plants
we have the hippies/greenfags to thank for that.
Electric cars should be nuclear powered out of the socket.

youtube.com/watch?v=KUWGalI_tXQ

>the conversion of fossil fuel into energy is much more efficient in a powerplant than a car engine
need proofs for that.

> """"green"""" technology

Open cast mines can be returned to nature once depleted. Some of our best wildlife reserves sit on top of old mines.

CO2 is irrelevant in this debate.

Scrapping batteries and electronic components produce more pollution than scrapping a simple combustion car.

This

But we have to remember that if all power generation went nuclear, there would barely be fuel for 60 years.

Coal will outlast humanity

>Actually defending Alberta
CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

You know fossil fuel powered cars have batteries too, right?

>lithium is cheap

OH I AM A LAFFIN

>commieberta
>shithole

we, collectively as Canadians, decided to invest in the tar sands. For 9 years the getting was good and we all profited from that. Even though we knew the gravy train would end, I would do it all over again.

Nice provincial-hate post, friend. Nice to know people are still pushing the "no such thing as unity. it's barely a country!" divide and conquer (((TACTIC)))

t. blue-all-over Eastern Ontario

That open mine destroy some hectare temporarily, as once exploitation stop nature will automatically reclaim it.
Meanwhile, the oil pumped out of the ground is then used and go into the atmosphere, fucking up the climate for up the a thousand years assuming no worldwide effort to capture the co2 isn't made.

What will you spout next, that nuclear is dangerous ?

Plants live off CO2 you retard. That's why everything is dying and shits flooding so much everywhere. Way lower CO2 levels than ever before. CO2 is not a "greenhouse gas". It's abundant in nature and necessary for continued survival of the planet. The unnatural reduction has done more to harm the planet than anything over a cash scam/muh climate change.

shut up faggot, you took the oil money too you transfer payment grubbing jew, you just didn't work for it

Oh wow. Is this the famous American education?

tesla cars are a million times better than the kike garbage other car manufacturers produce.

You are fucking insane if you think CO2 levels have been going DOWN
Where the fuck did you hear this? I mean holy shit.

Lies, breeder reactors alone expand the uranium usability enormously, and if the world was indeed uranium-based, the incentive to develop thorium reactors will be immense since thorium is a waste product in the mining of uranium.

And once thorium reactors are online, we're good for thousands of years, way enough time to develop fusion and saturate orbital space ( and beyond ! ) with solar panels.

>Meanwhile, the oil pumped out of the ground is then used and go into the atmosphere, fucking up the climate for up the a thousand years assuming no worldwide effort to capture the co2 isn't made.What will you spout next, that nuclear is dangerous ?
You don't know anything about CO2, do you?

Car engine: something like 25% efficient.
Don't have it for powerplants but it's about one third or more, can be much more if the waste heat is reused for heating of nearby building which it often is.

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Depending on what kind of pollution you're thinking of, I suppose.

What are you talking about? Plants aren't all dying. And when they do, its usually because humans shit up the place.
Yes, they need CO2. But CO2 levels have increased substantially over time. This is not good. Where were you told they were decreasing? How can you be this fucking stupid?

no.
electric cars are good. Tell the americans about it they are the ones who need to schnall the gürtel enger the euros are already on the green train plus they buy smaller cars anyway

Let's see, co2 trapping is mainly done by the phytoplancton.
Excess co2 acidify the ocean, killing the phytoplancton.
Releasing co2 not only, well, put more co2 into the atmosphere, but kill the main natural process responsible for trapping it ( counter balancing natural co2 production like volcanos and ur mum ).

well, they avoid the battery

the related car can travel 300 miles with its tank, refueling takes 3-5 minutes

energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-production-natural-gas-reforming

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>Oh wow. Is this the famous American education?
i sure think it is
burgers are stupid

Reminder that centralized energy generation is far more efficient than individual combustion engines.
Reminder that nuclear energy is clean as fuck too.

ok, but in a plant, you have to transform the electricity, transport the electricity, often over hundreds of miles, transform it again... I don't know how much is lost, but certainly a bit.
>reused for heating of nearby building
true, too. But is this a big factor?

>post racecar stats
>having to recharge it right after

Yeah, nah

Also, you do realize that most electricity is produced by burning fossil fuels, don't you?

i calculated it once, it's almost the same. the reason for this is because the efficiencies are chained with the electrical car (power plant, transmission, charge/discharge, motor)

>true, too. But is this a big factor?

Yes, it is
at least in colder climates, the same benefit also applies to cars: When you use heating

Volt owner here. I love the seamless acceleration. I have the 0-40 acceleration of a mid-grade sports car. Going from 60-80mph is...painful.

I think that the Volt will outlive low gas prices.

>famous American education?
I'm so sick of the snobbishness of foreigners. Glad your nations are being demographically destroyed.

Americans need to move to more public transportation. The jews fucked us over by ripping up railroad tracks back in the 40s and lobbying against public transportation now saying it wouldn't help the city and only poor people will use it.

Well, yeah I suppose.
And nice link was stupid enough to think most of our hydrogen just came from hydrolysis of water, didn't know they used methane.

Electric Cars are stil new and will become much better and cleaner in the future.

Cars on gasoline seem to have pretty much less options to improve on efficiency/cleaner.

>pollute when burns so you can not compare the image of extraction.

how do you think they charge the battery? magic?

You like we got a genius there.

Also, as an electric car owner, I feel like I have an obligation to add:

(1) "peak oil" is as great of a myth as "peak coal" in the 19th century;

(2) man-made global warming isn't scientifically supportable. I like the scientific method better than popularity.

Possible, looking back on it I was probably wrong on that one. I knew there were transmission loss but I thought those were usually pretty low.

Coal and oil, thanks to women having the right to vote.

The open mine can be filled in once the lithium has been extracted.

Fossil fuels on the other hand:

a) will run out
b) are fucking up the atmosphere and literally killing people in the most heavily polluted cities like beijing for example.

the transmission loss is actually very low

I think I'll calculate it again for better transparency

The solar panel red pill is that they are energy negative. It takes so much energy extracting the precious metals for the solar panels and forming them together, that they will break down before they make up for the initial carbon investment.

If you pretend to be the smartest, most powerful and greatest country ever 24/7, you have to be able to take some banter.

lithium is used for more than just car batteries, thats a fucking retarded picture

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DID YOU KNOW THAT WHEN MY ELECTRICITY COMES FROM JEWISH COAL, I GET TWO LESS MILES PER CHARGE WITH MY VOLT?

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>Also, you do realize that most electricity is produced by burning fossil fuels, don't you?

Yes I do. And I wasn't talking about that car as some kind of environmentalist. I'm a gear head and that car is a glimpse at the future. Electric cars are going to get faster, lighter and more efficient as battery technology advances. OP thinks electric cars are a meme, I think they're exciting as hell.

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typical coal power plant: 40% efficiency

losses through transmission ~ 10%

efficiency for charge / discharge of battery: 85%

electrical motor efficiency: ~ 90%

40% -> 90% -> 85% -> 90% -> result

=27,54% efficiency

It's not "global warming" anyway. It's terraforming.

It's always cold, rainy and miserable here.
I want REAL summers

Hmm, interesting. I guess the difference isn't all that big after all.

Depends where. And if the gulf stream slows down pretty sure you'll have colder winters.

The top one is a coal mine you fucking clognigger.

Neither are correct, bottom is a fracking rig.

It's worth a try.
I'm not moving that's for sure.
I need my socialism and friendly white people

Copper mine.

>caring about the environment

electric cars are more efficient and convenient than fossil fuel cars

People want electric cars because they're fucking retarded.

You want to save the planet, buy an old used car and keep it running.

This happened to me

>buy gasoline VW
>everyone telling me how they consume more and it's more expenive and blah blah blah
>Dieselgate happens
>see how cars from the same platform are recalled left and right
>everyone going nuts about it
>The pleb finally discovers that diesel smoke is far more harmful than gasoline smoke
>politicians discuss heavier taxes on Diesels
>Gas prizes getting at similar levels to diesel

The general opinion can eat shit

We need to tackle the fucking battery problem and probably invest some more in solar power.

Electric cars aren't necessarily bad, the ways of producing power, charging, etc, etc, are right now just as bad as gas/diesel engines. This coupled with the fact the lefty "world improvement" faggots like to pretend they are super environments friendly. Also, fuck tax cuts for electric cars, it's plain and simple bullshit.

Actually lithium will be replaced by graphine in a few decades, some not an argument

Tax breaks aren't even a good reason. They are already talking about charging per mile deiven to make up for lost revenue due to hybrids and such.

>Electric cars
>more convenient

No, can you go an entire month with just one charge?
My old piece of crap shitbox had to go just once a month to get fuel

Solar is too variable to ever be dependable, wind or hydroelectric are more viable soultions.

>lithium will be replaced by graphine
Graphene is a meme.

All of these SUPAH BADDEWIES that are "soon" are just memes.

Expect battery development to be slow and gradual as always

Typical leftists who buy hybrids.

I met a guy like this he was literally saying I car and you don't, damn looser.
Did I mention his girlfriend is in an "open relationship".

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It already has an edge on lithium, it'll just be improved over time, and its production is pretty much harmless for environmental as far as I know.

It doesn't mean progress wont be gradual. They first will be pretty damn expensive. Making graphene isn't easy. As times goes by, the price will drop eventually to similar levels to lithium batteries, but with faster charging rate and without getting affected by the weather.

If they manage to pull it off.

>And commieberta? They are the most rightwing province in Canada by far, they are like Canada's texas.
They voted for the NDP on provincial scale.

No but oil prices won't be so ridiculously overinflated like they are today

Commiebertas problem is they literally have nothing else of note but oil. If the price goes down further there's gonna be nothing to do for work besides going back to cow ranching which they should because the only thing they've done right is their beef which I love

Once, in a minority vote because they have 3 or 4 rightwing party.

Have you been sleeping under a rock? Oil prices crashed already. They are already having problems finding jobs. But eventually it will go back up. Extracting oil is becoming more and more expensive.

>and saturate orbital space ( and beyond ! ) with solar panels.
Why? Solar is a huge step down from nuclear.

South eastern BC, small city 99% white

Meanwhile I hear Cuckgary just elected a Muslim mayor

Hell even Vancouver is still uncucked enough to keep the Muslims away. Sure they bring in chinks but the fed says they have to allow in some immigrants and id rather chunks than Muslims

Also if you want to look at how a province especially a western one actually thinks politically look at their provincial election. They elected the NDP with a clear majority and were excited. At least in the 90s BC hated the NDP who got in because the vote was split.

Don't buy the Alberta is Canadas Texas meme. federally commiestan is a one issue province: oil they only vote conservative because they are so far the most oil. If the fucking greens somehow came out as more pro oil the whole province would have gone green.

Hahaha keep laughing.

We have the seaport
You don't

Stay mad Muslim voting cucks :D

>he actually thinks Canada is united

I don't know what you're smoking Justin but BC would be far better off if it had never joined Cuckada

ONE
FUCKING
SHITTY
RAILWAY
is all we got out of it

>Comparing a source of energy to a source of manufacturing material.
epic maymay

Then we are truly fucked then. Fuck this god forsaken country of cucks.