What is the general opinion of mexicans on La Malinche?

What is the general opinion of mexicans on La Malinche?

I'm also interested in the general opinion of the spanish people on her and her relationship with Cortés.

t. Malinchista

they call anyone who betrays their own people malinchista, that should tell you enough

nigga wat

Would she have done it all again if she knew she would destroy her whole race?

it's what you call a chicana when you dump her

Cortés wasn't even among the cruelest conquistadores, he's famous because the Aztecs were a very powerful alliance. He ended up recognising his son with Malinche, although they weren't married and she was a native American.

She didnt exist I bet, midget tiny dick mexican men had to rationalize getting BTFO by 500 spaniards so they blamed it on women instead of themselves
SAD!

Wasn't she Mayan?

Wasn't the Mayan world considerably less fucked over by the Spanish than the Aztec area of influence?

Race traitor.

never trust no hos

t. thot patrol expert

She looks more like a Spaniard than a Native.

Malinche probably looked like this

Spaniards didn't spend 170 years conquering the Mayans for nothing.

Did the spaniards start trashing central americans right away? Cortez made sure to preserve the alliances he made so he could focus on conquering new lands and not have to put down revolts everywhere in his new provinces.
Did she even live long enough to see the spaniards trash central americans?

She was a gift from the local nobility to Cortez, along with all of his other indian mistresses.

What are you talking about? Most natives banded together with Cortes against the local kingdoms that had ravaged them for centuries. Are you really trying to say that Amazon natives are better off than the average Mexican?

No, she was a Mayan slave, her exact provenance is somewhat disputed tho she was likely a Nahua (the Aztec ethnicity) and first got started translating Nahuatl into Maya which was the only language for which the Spaniards originally had translators into Spanish, tho she seems to have been a quick study and learned Spanish fast enough.

Malintzin it's a very complex issue, this guy is right and she's often seen as the whore of Cortés, yet we've also named the sixth highest peak in the country after her and she remains something of a fascinating character, the early Spaniard colonials saw her in a somewhat favorable light as someone to whom they owed much of their success tho she wasn't as highly regarded as Isabel de Moctezuma who was seen as also a great beauty and a tragic figure as tha last Aztec princess.

Views on her are very nuanced and ambivalent and can vary from some vague role as mother to mestizos as a people (with all the symbolic burden of mother worship that entails in Hispanic culture) to that of treacherous Jezebel. It's often a frequent subject in books concerning Mexican identity, more importantly The Labyrinth of Solitude by Octavio Paz, and Mexican views on women.

It's a very complex issue tbqh

She was clearly aware that opposing the spaniards was futile in the long term, it's not unthinkable that she already expected the end for their civilization

LOL at these paintings. She looks nothing like a real Native American

wh*Toids can't restrain their wh*Toid bias

How would a renowned Amerindian beauty look pray tell us Argentino

Pretty much, they were imposing catholicism since day one and they already sieged and took the first city that did not accept their advances by the first month,Cortés meet La Malinche after he had taken down Potonchan, the city where she was a slave.
Anyway the imported epydemies murdered far more people than the soldiers.
She's stimated to die by 1529, so she saw the fall of quite a good chunk.

t. proxy that's obsessed with natives

Why would she look Bolivian? Mesoamericans are a very different people.

arr rook the same

bolivians look like europeans

That's very interesting.

I wonder how it must have been for old and new world people to discover and see each other for the first time.

average bolivian female

who?

>Most natives
No, it was two specific peoples, both Nahuas belonging to the same ethnicity as the Aztecs, the Totonacs and the Tlaxcaltecs, The Spaniards had to militarily defeat both of them first and no other peoples joined their cause until after the fall of Tenochtitlán, let me put this in perspective, the Tarascans surrendered without a fight despite meeting the Spaniards with an army 100,000 strong on just seeing the Aztecs march under them, they had known the might of the Aztecs, being their enemies on the battelfield, and they also knew of Tenochtitlán's destruction. Prior to the Aztec fall however the Spaniards weren't exactly making a reputation for themselves as liberators, a very important city and religious center, Cholula, had welcomed them peacefully and the Spaniards proceeded to kill and massacre near all the inhabitants.

The Spaniards created something of a black legend around the Aztecs to justify their actions later on, reality is ALL Mesoamerican peoples had performed human sacrifice, including those marching under Cortés, and the flower war system meant the Tlaxcaltecs sacrificed Aztec warriors to their gods. To blame what had been millenia of tradition on just the Aztecs was ridiculously absurd, the Tlxcaltecs themselves were originary to the Anahuac valley, the heartland of the Aztec Empire and shared in the exact same culture, they had been expelled from their original lands by the Atzcapotzalcah Empire, not the Aztecs who later overthrew Atzcapotzalco.

Most Nahuas lived in altepetl, that's city states, much the same as the Maya but unlike many other Mesoamericans who lived in kingdoms (the Zapotecs, Tarascans, Huastecs) or under local lords (the Totonacs). The Aztecs themselves were an empire (they ruled over city states and kingdoms) built upon the alliance of three different city states (Tenochtitlán, Texcoco, Tlacopán) Texcoco was the sort of counterpart to Athens in this alliance, while Tenochtitlán was CONT

Vendepatrias gtfo

a sort of Sparta specializing in war. Much like the Romans the Aztecs did not destroyed those they conquered and allowed them to mantain self rule and their own customs as long as they contributed to the Empire and paid tribute. It wasn't the tyranical rule its often been made out to be.

TL;DR The Aztecs weren't tyranical monsters sacrificing to their gods helpless peaceful peoples.

she doesnt look like native american lol

New Spain rule built cities, roads, was very wealthy, average rural laborer in new spain was paid well and had access to all urban goods and services, theybwere educated, housed, fed and given jobs.

Urban workers built ships, printers, cloths, steel, infastructure etc..

New Spain was richer than any other land in the world.

Amerindian-Iberian people now inhabit the entire continent.

Amerindians had full rights with freedom of travel to Spain, right to go to Spain to file a lawsuit etc.. And if they wanted to live in Spain.

SPAINED.es

>TL;DR The Aztecs weren't tyranical monsters sacrificing to their gods helpless peaceful peoples.
Tyranical "monsters" is likely right. They controlled most of the region, and thus the trade, and thus were getting their cut of it all in addition to demanding tribute (extortion). That's what an empire in their position is extremely likely to do.
And then also taking people for their 24/7 human sacrificing.
Yeah, all the others did that, but nowhere on the same frequency, they would usually just sacrifice a slave or defeated political rival instead, and for special occasions only.

>a very important city and religious center, Cholula, had welcomed them peacefully and the Spaniards proceeded to kill and massacre near all the inhabitants.

trusting armed strangers is probably not the smartest of ideas

she was a female, she didnt care about that kind of things

Very much hated.

i wanna fuck that

wow, I'd colonize her pussy m8

He committed adultery and is currently rotting in hell with his traitorous whore

this

Both of you have also committed adultery by having sex before marriage.
Right?

Average mesoamerican

Cortez was already married. And she was a traitorous whore who betrayed her people to foreigners. They are most certainly burning in hell for what they did

Where exactly in the sandnigger cartoon christian religion is polygamy prohibited?

Maliche betrayed nothing, she as well as all her sons became very wealthy as did everyone who sided with the Iberian conquistadors.

For the honor, glory, and accomplishments of Cortes he is in Elysium right now with all other great men such as Alexander, Titus etc..

that's called fornication
big difference (not really)

From slave by her "people" she became more powerful and wealthy than the Aztec imperialists.

New Spain's labor utilized existing slavery institutions, then bullying by the additional Europeans that would arrive later would see the majority of Amerindians pushed into being the slaves.

I really doubt that he ever accepted Jesus Christ as his savior when wealth and status were his important "gods".
He's burning in hell for not converting, typical of types like him.

They badly wish, lel

fornication = adultery indeed, according to the bible