>Previously, an "explosive" article from The Hollywood Reporter detailed behind-the-scenes friction on the project and stated that the film needed to earn $750-$800 million just to break even. However, that figure never really made much sense, especially considering the fact that the same report from THR said the film cost $175 million (at most) to produce. Forbes disputed that number in not one but two separate articles. It should also be noted that if you go back and read the original article from THR, the $750-$800 million figure comes from an "anonymous industry insider" not from an actual employee at THR, which gives them a 'technical-out' to run with that inflated figure which fits the overall tone of their report.
never understood where the "hurr durrr it needs 800 bajillion or its a flop"
Caleb Cooper
I don't get why reactions to this movie have been so strong. I didn't think it was great, but it wasn't terrible either. It was just a fairly standard comicbook movie - some action, some cheese, some fights, some lame jokes, some on-the-nose songs. What exactly were people expecting to be different about it?
Gavin Reyes
Ghostbusters failed and critics hated BvS. Marvel is popular with normies and they wanted a movie to fit their "DC is the worst company of all time" narrative, and critics were happy to oblige.
Benjamin Sanchez
Sup Forums meme maths.
You use their formula and Civil War only made 52 mil
Elijah Ward
>You can argue that we shouldn’t necessarily be applauding a movie for being about as leggy as The Incredible Hulk, but it gave me an excuse to dive into the world of second-weekend freefalls. And once again we’re looking at a situation where opening in so-called offseason can provide protection for a frontloaded movie in a way that opening in the heart of the summer cannot. That will be something to watch over the next few years.
So DCucks don't even bother to read the article because he's not exactly praising it .
Ethan Gray
I thought it was like negative 100 mil or some shit
Joshua Reed
>I don't get why reactions to this movie have been so strong Its not a good movie. The people who like it think critics are ganging up on DCEU for making bad movies so they go about making petitions to stop Rotten Tomatoes even though its from the same company then you have retards like this who think its because its negative reception has all to do with a movie unrelated to it and not with the actual quality of the movie itself and finally you have the fanbase who think its amazing that a bad movie is doing modestly in the box office like that has never happened before other than...ya know...discussing the quality of the movie itself.
Hunter Hill
>Civil War was less leggy than Incredible Hulk
LOL!!!!!!
Hunter Morales
I just went by the given budget and the marketing being half of that. It was almost certainly higher
Isaiah Bailey
>reception has all to do with a movie unrelated
There were critics who talked about Ghostbusters in their negative comments to be fair. I honestly don't get why any of you care what other people like or don't like.
Jack Parker
>I don't get why reactions to this movie have been so strong
Because I hated BvS and was hoping this would wash the stink of Snyder out of my mouth.
And somehow i got something even worse. I have no idea how anyone could defend the editing of this movie, entire character arcs and motivations were clearly cut out. None of the relationships in this film make any sense.
For better or worse, at least BvS was a distinct vision and that vision made it to screen. Warner hired the perfect director for Suicide Squad, forced him to write a script that had none of the things David Ayer is known for and then had it chopped down to nothing afterwords.
At this point the only WB film I can get excited for is Aquaman, because Wan is the only director big enough to tell Warner to fuck off. There's zero chance that whatever Patty Jenkins' vision for Wonder woman is will actually end up on-screen.
Andrew Cook
Because this one was supposed to be the good one, and it was just a 6/10.
Andrew Parker
4th DCEU defense force thread up atm.
Ayden Reyes
Civil War is really just The Avengers 3, so it'd be crazy if it didn't outgross every other capeshit this year.
>Suicide Squad often feels like the film equivalent of a crumpled note passed to the anti-Ghostbusters trolls outside detention. "See?" it seems to say. "At least we haven’t forgotten you. We’ve got tube tops and gussets and proud but tormented men, and a scene in which Will Smith (as Deadshot, the world’s greatest marksman) shoots a wide range of deafening projectile weapons to a rousing pop music soundtrack."
Aaron Long
good marketing still doesn't make a good movie
especially with trash like SS
Mason Sullivan
>worse than snydershit
no
Joshua Jenkins
>everything I don't like is a conspiracy >nobody could possibly like something that wasnt made by based marlel
Bentley Jenkins
>thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/05/suicide-squad-s-retrograde-misogyny-the-trials-of-margot-robbie-s-harley-quinn.html >Smith must’ve managed to hold back the tears of outrage while filming Suicide Squad, Warner Bros.’ DC Comics blockbuster in which his character Deadshot, an antihero assassin who kills for money and loves it, describes the mother of his child as a whore and advises a teammate to control his girlfriend by smacking her on the ass. >But at a certain point in watching Suicide Squad, something becomes painfully obvious: It really seems to hate its women. And when it’s not busy hating those women, it’s casually exploiting other worrisome racial stereotypes. Ironically, Suicide Squad is the most inclusive superhero (or rather, supervillain) movie that either DC or Marvel have churned out in their ongoing arms race of competing cinematic universes. And that’s why its moments of bald racial insensitivity feel even more tone-deaf.
Joseph Lewis
Oh joy, now we're back to the "posting the same half a dozen retarded reviews and pretending that's all of them."
Reminds me of how the BvS fanboys unironically tried to dismiss every single review that mentioned the MCU because comparing one film to its direct competition is something that has never happened before and was literally invented by Disney when the MCU started and if you disagree you're a MCUck.
At least BvS was an actual movie instead of a 2-hour trailer.
Ethan Garcia
>to stop Rotten Tomatoes even though its from the same company
WB owns a 30% share of RT. They don't "own it"
Also that petition used a Sup Forums meme name and if you fell for it you are fucking retarded
Julian Nguyen
>say "people didn't hate SS based on an agenda" >get proven wrong >throw a tantrum
>Think metaphorically again, and see that Suicide Squad entangles post-Vietnam and post-9/11 notions about heroism and citizenship. Deadshot does the right, patriotic thing, yet compliments Waller, his treacherous superior, saying, “That’s gangsta!” This use of hip-hop cynicism speaks more directly to modern confused ethics than most lines from other movies and most politicians. Suicide Squad is The Dirty Dozen for millennial viewers (and voters), who think their patriotic moral conflict is new.
Joshua Reed
Every time.
As long as you pretend the half-dozen reviews you all keep posting are the only ones that exist and shout down anyone who dares to present you with reality, that makes what you say true, right?
Wait a minute, how many Suicide Squad reviews are on RT again, let's check.
>Reviews counted >289
I'm amazed his neuroses allowed him to enjoy a movie directed by a white man that has any "black" culture in it at all.
Henry Martin
go back to your mouse house
Cooper White
>Reviews counted >289
Tyler Garcia
>289 people are SJW cucks
what a sad state of affairs
John Brooks
>even the people that liked it are cucks Is there anyone that isn't a cuck in this situation?
Nicholas Rodriguez
That's all of them you retard, including the positive ones.
Zachary King
It's going to be interesting to see DCEU defenders after Justice League releases and has a completely different feel to both BvS which is different to Suicide Squad; yet still fails critically.
It'll be people just attacking themselves
Henry Green
stop trying to make a fight over nothing
Jaxon Anderson
They'll just argue that Warner forced him to make an MCU movie and it therefore "doesn't count" or that it's Disney's fault. And then more kinoposting.
Or maybe it'll actually be good,.l Having producers breathing down his neck might force the Kino Lord to make an actual movie that someone other then him could enjoy.
Brody Richardson
user, if he hasn't made a good movie in 5 of his 6 attempts, what makes you think this one will be the one?
Jason Torres
>It's going to be interesting when Justice League isn't similar to the other movies but the reviews are exactly the same.
Well, you're not wrong.
Jose Hill
Dude that's what they want If JL is good then they will discover these sides don't exist and we all just enjoy good cape films. It's why this shit posting was so hard with the Nolan trilogy running along side MCU and we were praising both. It was standing proof there was no console wars here But as long as one of them makes dreadful products the losers here can keep making bait threads and keep the lines of "us vs them" intact.
Andrew Garcia
Because he makes better movies when he isn't given free-reign. BvS was Sucker Punch 2.0 and hopefully that'll wake up the Warner execs.
I just want these movies to be good, user. I can't give up on these characters yet.
Jaxson Parker
I already dislike JL because it's clear that they're just attempting to please the critics and general movie going audience. There's no plan there, there's no bigger narrative.
This isn't company wars. People have different tastes. I loved MoS and BvS, didn't liked very much SS and am wary of the new movies. The one i'm looking for is WW, because it started before the change in politics, but they can still do what they with SS and change things around.
So i'm sorry if my tastes goes against yours and if you want me desperately to hate on Zack Snyder's movies.
James Russell
>and we all just enjoy good cape films.
then why do people still defend Iron Man 3?
Matthew Reyes
>I'm amazed his neuroses allowed him to enjoy a movie directed by a white man that has any "black" culture in it at all. Idiot.
Lincoln Kelly
>It's going to be interesting to see Justice League be completely different yet still fails critically.
yeah, just like it was fun seeing people criticize SS for having jokes when they called BvS the worst movie ever for not having them
Christopher Rogers
You know what I mean you shitposter
Adam Ross
What would be good?
Some action, a bit of jokes, nothing uncomfortable or offensive, some fanservice and that's it?
Gabriel Baker
Dude, there was shit-posting and company wars back then. You should have seen how this board became after The Dark Knight Rises or The Avengers. The shit-posting was out of control
Lincoln Powell
I never understand this argument style.
You realise you can do both self-seriousness and jokey comedy poorly, right? Do you not understand what context means?
>they did no jokes poorly >they did jokes poorly >WHAT DO YOU WANT
A good movie?
I'll take entertaining characters and a film that doesn't confuse quality with quality when it comes to self-conflicting thematic ideas.
But by all means, keep acting as smug as possible.
Isaac Wilson
>I'll take entertaining characters and a film that doesn't confuse quality with quality when it comes to self-conflicting thematic ideas.
There were no conflict thematic ideas in either MoS and BvS. If you think so, then you failed to pick the obvious.
I prefer anything over a safe movie.
Carson Diaz
>A good movie
That's what SS is.
Julian Powell
B-but muh capkino! Muh Le Based Russos!
Thomas Wilson
>There were no conflict thematic ideas in either MoS and BvS. If you think so, then you failed to pick the obvious.
>I prefer anything over a safe movie.
Goddamn, these were the exact same fucking arguments I was having with the Matrix sequel fanboys a decade ago.
Time is a flat circle.
>SS >movie
It was the longest trailer I've ever seen.
Even calling it a movie is being generous.
Caleb Hall
I want to cum inside dirt witch
Owen Sullivan
>these were the exact same fucking arguments I was having with the Matrix sequel fanboys a decade ago.
You were wrong then and you're wrong now.
Nathan Clark
And let's remember Marvel thinks Incredible Hulk was such a flop they've refused to do sequels to it to this day.
Jonathan Watson
>defending the Matrix sequels
Oh come the fuck on. You can maybe mount a defence for Reloaded if a third film never came out, but Revolutions is not only unwatchable it also goes back and retroactively shits on Reloaded.
Thematic content is a not a replacement for character. I don't understand how both the Wachowskis and Snyder both don't understand this. Making you characters shells for your ideas and nothing else makes them impossible to care about.
Nolan Ortiz
Actually the issue is the shared rights with Paramnount Before Disney that was a non issue After the buyout however it's lead to this akaward setup where they use the Hulk just not in a personal title film
Jose Reed
Which is why we'll never get a She-Hulk TV series by David E. Kelley
Aiden Davis
>wanting that after what he did to Wonder Woman
Henry Smith
NOOOOOO
Hunter Edwards
You have zero standards. Do you have any self-respect or dignity at all?
Jace Morgan
>It was the longest trailer I've ever seen. This is a hard fact. It was literally edited by a trailer company. Its a 2 hour trailer. Literally.
Josiah Watson
>You can maybe mount a defence for Reloaded if a third film never came out, but Revolutions is not only unwatchable it also goes back and retroactively shits on Reloaded.
>liking Reloaded more than Revolution
You are certifiably retarded.
Jose Adams
>2 hours of useless Zion politics, a pointless mech battle and Neo and Trinity flying from A to B with almost no incident
At least Reloaded set up some interesting concepts and ideas that Revolutions did literally nothing with or actively ruined.
Revolutions is that god-awful Architect scene from Reloaded stretched into 2 hours.
Austin Miller
>a pointless mech battle
>"What is rule of cool?"
Jaxon Foster
>literally who characters fighting literally who robots
At least in the other films the cool shit was happening to characters I cared about.
Did ANYONE watching those films care about the Zion characters outside of Jada Pinkett and Harold Perrinaeu?
Henry Diaz
So now it's confirmed as a biggest success than GotG, what's next? Will this help Marvel to come out of the comfort zone and make a different movie than the one they've been making once a year?
Leo Parker
What inspiration can they even take from SS?
Make movies with no act structure and strip out every meaningful character moment or put them into a montage?
Dylan Roberts
>literally who characters fighting literally who robots >literally who
Ok, so you didn't even bother to pay attention to the movies. Opinion disregarded.
Zachary Edwards
>strip out every meaningful character moment
Not a problem for Marvel, they have been doing this for quite a while.
Also to take risks and to be less focused on being child/manchildren friendly for once
Daniel Mitchell
>Also to take risks and to be less focused on being child/manchildren friendly for once
You realize that SS was nothing but manchildren friendly, right? It was specifically aimed at said manchildren,
John Turner
>Not a problem for Marvel, they have been doing this for quite a while.
What? That's never been complaint about the MCU, if anything its there there's too many character moments to the detriment of the narrative., that its all character and no story(which is why the villains are weak).
>Also to take risks and to be less focused on being child/manchildren friendly for once
The risks were chopped out by focus-testing. Also are you really trying to tell me that SS wasn't being marketed to manchildren with all the MOMS GONNA FREAK marketing and everything looking like Hot Topic vomit?
Am I being rused right now?
David Turner
>cant beat Iron Man 3 despite having Iron Man and Spider-Manx
Justin Reed
>It was specifically aimed at said manchildren,
It was aimed at women and minorities, manchildren hate DCEU because NOT MUH and also because internet told them to
>MOMS GONNA FREAK marketing and everything looking like Hot Topic
You mean the Sup Forums meme and the gangsta look you can see in Korine's movies? I think you're rusing yourself, SS is one of the most normie friendly capeshit movie
Grayson Moore
>It was aimed at women and minorities You're only fooling yourself.
Jayden Scott
>There are people out there actually mad about this
Why?
Kayden Davis
>You mean the Sup Forums meme
That meme was born out of the actual marketing for the film.
>and the gangsta look you can see in Korine's movies?
And nothing says normie-friendly like Harmony Korine?
Brayden Gomez
>mfw this movie DC fags are the worst
Luis Howard
>Will Smith >female character that is not an impossibly perfect icon of virtue but an actual vapid girl >also Cara Delememe which is the living incarnation of the current instagram generation of girls >Joker as the bad-boy Chad archetype >fire mexican incan god >basically an Escape from New York remake
Woman and minorities right there my friend. The reactions from the audience and also from the SJW, who can't grasp what people actually ARE, leave little to be discussed. Literally the only thing I can think that is for manchildren is Katana.
Mason Anderson
>Woman and minorities right there my friend You have no idea at all what you're talking about.
>Will Smith >female character that is not an impossibly perfect icon of virtue but an actual vapid girl >also Cara Delememe which is the living incarnation of the current instagram generation of girls >Joker as the bad-boy Chad archetype >fire mexican incan god >basically an Escape from New York remake Literally all of this is aimed at the Hot Topic crowd.
You might be so ingrained in manchild culture, you cannot even see its existence yourself.
Jayden Jackson
>when people are too retarded to understand Suicide Squad
No wonder they didn't like BvS.
Luke Watson
>WB owns 30% >movies get 30%
They have to buy the other 70% before they can get good scores.
Parker Taylor
Nice shitpost.
Benjamin Reed
Just because it was embraced by women and minorities doesn't mean it was aimed at them.
Sebastian Butler
What implies it wasn't?
Brayden White
Idk it was pretty straightforward. I mean what would you not understand in Suicide Squad?
Christopher Campbell
He didn't say it was hard to understand though people apparently had a hard time doing that for some reason just that it was shit. It was a straight forward movie, but that doesn't mean it's straight forward plot and intentions weren't just plain bad.
Owen Carter
It was technically straightforward but had so much chopped out that nothing connected.
Whatever the fuck the Deadshot/Harley relationship was supposed to has been chopped down to like two scenes. Nothing that happens there was earned.
The Enchantress/Flagg relationship, which should be one of the emotional fulcrums of the film since it forms the backbone of the narrative, is reduced to a ten-second montage.
Enchantress clearly had almost all of her screen-time cut out(though considering Cara's performance I'm not surprised, because jesus christ). She has no character and no real motivations beyond vague evil.
Joker served no purpose. Maybe he did back when this was an actual movie, but introducing a character just so he can almost break out Harley but not really until the end is pointless. He doesn't really affect the plot or the characters at all.
Then there's just plain bad editing like Deadshot being mad at a plot revelation we clearly should have been shocked by despite knowing it an hour ago, or Boomer running off and re-appearing without context.
The film IS nonsense just by virtue of the hack-job done to it.
Cameron Gonzalez
>Anti-Ghostbusters So they're still trying to push the narrative that GB was a great film that nobody liked because we were all misogynist, gleefully missing how most of SS ticket sales were from women?
Hunter Roberts
>they're
That's one review.
Again, how many reviews are there altogether?
>289
Juan Foster
Why can't they be used in reference to telegraph?
Xavier Nguyen
>Why can't they be used in reference to telegraph?
???
Samuel Parker
Literally who is still watching this movie? I can see hype alone bringing people into the movie, but it's terrible and there's no way people are going back for repeat viewings in mass... right?
Lucas Ross
Snyder is personally buying up all of these tickets so he doesn't lose his cushy job.
Lucas Campbell
There's literally nothing else big out to go see man.
Suicide Squad got the juiciest spot of the year, there's been no real competition for like a fucking month. It's doing for August what 300 did for March.
William Mitchell
I can smell your tears through the monitor.
Brayden Sullivan
"THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING
I'M IN CHARE HERE!"
Ryder Rivera
Imagine how well this movie would be doing if it had actually been good
