Why were the Germans so evil during WW2...

Why were the Germans so evil during WW2? Is it something to do with how they burned books and basically killed all the intellectuals that could have prevented it if they were in power instead? Is it the geography?

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yeah pretty much.

Also Hitler was a complete loon

Everyone was evil during WWII.

They weren't that evil really. Chinks, russians, and present day north koreans have been far far worse especially to their own citizens

America and Britian where not evil.

>Why were the Germans so evil during WW2?

They weren't any different from others. They just lost the war and have been demonized with massive propaganda effort ever since.

The americans dropped two atom bombs.
The germans offered peace when they were BTFO everyone.

Sure we were, we helped communism and killed our brothers, doesn't get much more evil than that, now we are reaping what we sown for it.

Britain was the most evil of all. The war could have ended in 1940 on mutually agreeable terms if Churchill hadn't been hell bent on exterminating the German threat to British hegemony.

>they burned books and basically killed all the intellectuals that could have prevented it
You are talking about Cambodia under pol pot, not nazi germany.

What? Democracy? Doesn't surprise me someone like you considers it "reaping what we sown" on this board.

>I never learned about Dresden

America was all about eugenics during that time with massive sterilization programs in California

Britain had a legacy of racist imperialist

They both did plenty of evil

It's pretty ridiculous how retarded the Brits were in WW2.

Germany was a saint during WW2. Even though Germany completely knocked both France and Britain, Hitler wanted to spare both of them and let them keep their territories and colonies. There was no repayment nonsense like the treaty of Versailles.

All Hitler wanted was for France and Britain to fuck off and let Germans decide their own destiny in their own lands. They didn't even demand their old colonies returned.

The Allies overthrew democratically elected governments in Germany and Italy, citing the invasion of Poland as their reason, only to willingly hand Poland (and many others) over to be a dictatorship's satellite states. "Democracy" was never their goal.

Germany tried to destabilize the WORLD ECONOMY and you call America evil. Alright buddy.

How is imperialism or eugenics evil

>(((WORLD ECONOMY)))

They're evil when a kraut or wop does it.

t. Churchill

>The germans offered peace when they were BTFO everyone.

This shows who was really the bad guy in WW2.

The country that could have easily exterminated all of France and Britain within the next year instead offered to let their soldiers return to their lands with no repayment for war damages.

>implying they didn't have it coming

youtube.com/watch?v=3_QY3xsLQNI

America was selling arms to all sides
Britain attack germany first when germany wanted to keep things civil.

Not saying the germans didnt do evil shit, but they were basically backed into a corner. Also they lost so all the terrible shit that went on was blamed on them.

I took all AP history classes in high school and they curriculum didn't so much as mention Hitler offering peace terms, let alone have us read them for ourselves.

this is bullshit neo-nazis say to try and take blame away from their fallen god Hitler

>America was selling arms to all sides

There were private companies selling things to Germany, but I think the US Government was supporting Britain and France, because the Germany economic model threatened their power.

The people running the US government would never want to see Germany succeed, as that would convince other nations to follow Germany and introduce National Socialism.

And America tried to control the world economy for their own benefit.

Do you actually think that the winning side is innocent? You realize they wrote most of the literature about it afterwards

Imperialism in foreign countries is a clear violation of the right of self determination that natives have, although it depends on the context and level of benevolence.
Eugenics too, applied in a rational and nuanced manner can be okay, but it easily leads to genocide as was the case.
Call me a cuck if you want but I reckon spending a huge amount of resources on killing as many people as possible from a particular racial group is pretty evil

America refered to help the jewish-mongol commies against the germans, which shared much in commom with the burgers.

UK didnt cared when Hitler annexed the Czechoslovakia and Austria, but went full angry when he annexed half of Poland, only because there were millions of kikes there.

WW2 would be glossed over entirely if it wasn't for the shoacaust.

Government school = indoctrination.

I didn't start leaning history until i left school.

>pretty evil

>Luftwaffe bombs Warsaw
>estimated 20,000-25,000 Polish people die

>Allies bomb Dresden
>estimated 20,000-25,000 German people die

>stormfags "ACHTUNG! NEVAH FORGET THE 60 GORILLION BOMBED IN DRESDEN!"

>wow lol how can you expect me to pick a side? I'll just say everyone is evil to show that I'm above those other people, yeah, that'll do it
Oy vey, Hitlah vas an evil crazy monstah who only hyad one testicle, trust us goy

>Britain attack germany first when germany wanted to keep things civil.
Is launching an unprovoked military invasion of another sovereign state considered 'civil' where you come from?

The more you learn about WWII, the unsanitized history, the more you come to understand that no single faction behaved defensibly, no matter with whom you sympathize.

(((Anglos)))

This is the only reasonable comment in the whole thread.

I'm not a neo-Nazi, but I can't say Germany was evil during WW2.

Everything Germany did during WW2 was to protect themselves and Europe.
That's the reason why Hitler ordered his men to invade Soviet Russia when he found out Stalin was planning on conquering Europe after Hitler defeated both France and Britain.
He offered peace over 20 times to Britain even after Britain continued attacking Germany civilians by air. Hitler could have easily destroyed Britain after he trapped their soldiers at Dunkirk, yet he let them go free.

I can't find anything Germany has done in WW2 that makes me thing they were evil.

A german life have the value of thousands of poles.

Also, Germany was just talking their rightfull lands back

Jews.

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Need a hint? Look at Hollywood.

Maybe you should read into what the Poles were doing to ethnic Germans in their lands. There were mass rapes and exterminations (Probably ordered by the Jews to provoke Germany).

Hitler ordered his men to invade Poland to save Germans.
Wow, that changes everything, doesn't it?

>no single faction behaved defensibly


Poland when Germany and USSR invaded them

China when Japan invaded them

Finland when USSR invaded them

USSR when Germany invaded them

The war started because of Hitlers desire to colonize eastern europe. Of course someone is going to be defensive

>comparing pooland to germany

yeah... nice meme frogposter

>I'm not a neo-Nazi

>Maybe you should read into what the Poles were doing to ethnic Germans in their lands. There were mass rapes and exterminations (Probably ordered by the Jews to provoke Germany).

user just stop. This dogwhistling bullshit doesnt work and its insulting.

Germans are compelled to periodically destroy Europe. There's no use trying to understand it.

This^

Dresden was a cultural city, free of nearly starteigic or military installations. Even by February 1945, the city had been spared most of the bombing. Allied report specifically recorded that the cities of Dresden and other were choose to be firebombed experimentally, to observe the effects of a new form of mass bombing. Churchill knew this would break the German spirit. Between one and two million people died in the terror bombing.

they did take poland

>viewing the planet's largest war through the scope of morality
They thought what they were doing was right. Unfortunately, it led to the deaths of millions. This was not a moral error. It was simply a strategic error and they suffered for it. There will be worse wars and mankind would be remiss in believing that they're a moral issue as well.

>Poland when Germany and USSR invaded them

what is versailles. also, poles behaved like animals after the war

>USSR when Germany invaded them

preemptive strike. the ideologies were diametrically opposed and stalin massacred germans during his purge. war was inevitable

>The war started because of Hitlers desire to colonize eastern Europe

LOL NO...

You have an overly simplistic view of this situation.

Hitler's entire ideology is about protecting the German race, even if they are living in another country.

After Hitler reigned in the private German Central Bank and introduced a debt-free currency backed by labor, the international bankers were doing all they can to drag Germany into a war.

Poland was massacring Germans, so Hitler ordered his men to invade Poland to save his people.

The only reason why Hitler attacked Soviet Russia is because Stalin was planning on conquering western Europe after Germany defeated both France and Britain at Dunkirk.

Jews were completely out of control, they had turned Berlin into one big whorehouse and child brothel.

They had tried to start a communist revolution in Germany, at a point in time when the Red Terror had already been killing millions.

They had to be stopped and removed from society.

Because the poles were massacring Germans. Hitler wanted to protect his people and he thought conquering Poland was the only way.

No. Hitlers entire idea was to colonize eastern europe, specifically Russia and establish Germany as a completely self sufficient country that would rise to the number one status in a new global order.

All this other "white power!" or whatever shit stormfags tell you is a meme.

Well to try answer your question OP, I wouldn't say the Germans where exactly evil, I mean yes... Burning books is barbaric and denies education and further reading, but you have to think what the Germans had went through previously before hitter was in charge, with the disgrace that was the TOV destroying Germany as a country and then placing foreign troops in german lands aswell as taking important industrial land and giving it to the French was obviously going to add tension. Then once things started getting better we had the Wall Street crash, with America recalling their loans it crippled Germany once again and then here comes hitler with all the answers, who was able to channel that anger the Germans had for the allies for his own political gain. And he was able to use it to make Germany an amazing beautiful place. Yes the The Nazi's did atrocities that are inexcusable but would you prepared to commit treason after seeing what happens to you if you don't comply? Seriously though? Not many would. Also I believe any party other than the NSADP would of stopped the atrocities of occurring, however I think Germany would of been a ticking time bomb regardless, tensions would of kept rising with its European neighbours and it's impossible to say that their wouldn't of been another world war. Germany needed a nationalistic party at the time, however they saw the great public speaker that he was rather than the mentally disturbed lunatic he actually was. If hitler wanted to have a war , I would of understood a war against France after they pushed to be extremely harsh on Germany after WW1, but after the invasion of the Sudetenland and then pushed further to take the entire country, it was clear he only wanted world domination rather than just letting the Germans have a peaceful life.

Stalin wasn't in real control pre-ww2, he had only just started purging the communist party and solidifying his control when Hitler invaded.

>Because the poles were massacring Germans

No they werent. Hitlers entire reason for invading Poland is because they wouldnt grant him access to Danzig dummy. Their excuse for war was the gleiwitz incident, which was a false flag attack on German radio towers done by the SS (it was called Operation Himmler lol)

The Bloody Sunday attack you keep bringing up happened 3 days AFTER the invasion of Poland anyway, and it was pushed heavily by nazi press to further justify their invasion.

Literally every faction you named is documentedly guilty of war crimes and/or crimes against humanity either during or after the war. Some escaped blame better than others by being allied with the winners.

>The war started because of Hitlers desire to colonize eastern europe
The war started because huge tracts of land occupied by ethnic German majorities had been unwillingly placed under the control of foreign governments as an ill-conceived punitive measure. There are two sides to any story.

>people being this butthurt over a war that happened 60 years ago which they have no connection with.

The autism on Sup Forums is always laughable. Thanks for the chuckles guys.

First off, I'm not a stormfag, because I am not white.
I am looking at History objectively.

>would rise to the number one status in a new global order.

Ok, smart ass, so why didn't Hitler just exterminate all of Britain's soldiers at Dunkirk and then launch an invasion on Britain and conquer it within a few months then?

Why did he let them go out of good faith and offer peace over 20 times to Britain even though Brits were launching air strikes on German civilians?

If Hitler really wanted Germany to be #1 in the world, he could have destroyed Britain and be done with it.

Stop falling for Allied propaganda. Hitler only wanted Germany and Germans to follow their own destiny in their own lands.

>killed all the intellectuals

Don't you mean (((intellectuals)))?

Tell that to the jews, and others who still whine about it in the mainstream

They burned Commie propaganda books. Amerishart

They weren't any more evil than the allies during ww2.

Victory is written by the victor. Germany lost, so they will forever be the "bad guys".

>There are two sides to any story.

No, theres the right side and the wrong side. You are spouting neo-nazi bullshit.

Hitler says in fucking Mein Kampfs 14th chapter how he wants to colonize Russia, and says how Germanys biggest mistake in the past was expanding west instead of east.

His racial ideas put slavic people in bellow Germans and essentially labeled them as cattle to be done with as the Germans pleased. Look up The Green Folder. they planned on starving fucking 10 million citizens of the soviet union after seizing all their food and shipping it to the German military.

you "hitler dindu nuffin" guys dont have any clue what you are talking about

>No they weren't

jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm
Get rekt.

>Their excuse for war was the gleiwitz incident

No, you dumbass. That was what they admitted to by force from the Allies during Nuremburg.

The Nazis didn't even use that incident in their "propaganda".

73% of kikes in the US think being a jew is about remembering the holocaust.

WW2 is very relevant today, the mythology of the holocaust and the innocent jew is the primary force pushing white genocide forward.

Jesus Christ are you really this fucking deluded you dumb spic

He's right though. He wanted all of eastern Europe to become part of Germany. He didn't want Britain, or anything else though.

>That's the reason why Hitler ordered his men to invade Soviet Russia when he found out Stalin was planning on conquering Europe after Hitler defeated both France and Britain.

The actual reasons were that:
1. The Soviet Union controlled all the resources that Germany needed, and Hitler knew it was only a matter of time before they were going to stop trading with Germany and bring the war machine to a massive halt.
2. Germany wanted to colonise eastern europe
3. The Nazis were fundamentally opposed to the Bolsheviks (since their whole ideology was a reaction to internationalist communism)

The Soviets were guilty of a whole lot of shit (like being dumb enough to appease and help out Germany in the first place), but the Stalin's Soviet Union was relatively isolationist for a commie state and was focused on consolidating their shit ideology in their own state rather than forcing it on others

>Hitler could have easily destroyed Britain after he trapped their soldiers at Dunkirk, yet he let them go free.
"nah senpai let the British Army escape bruh they our friends"- A. Hitler, 1940
Germany never produced a meaningful solution to the Royal Navy. Invading the UK was impossible and the Nazis began to quickly realise this.

>There were mass rapes and exterminations
This is true.

>(Probably ordered by the Jews to provoke Germany).
hahahahahahahahaha okay bro.

>Hitler ordered his men to invade Poland to save Germans.
Hitler invaded Poland because he was brought into power with the expectation of Making Germany Great Again

>printing your own money
>destabilizing the world economy

Nah. There's a reason nobody talks about the national debt in America. Its because that's the main method of control over the American people. And the world too.

There's a reason you don't know who owns the Federal Reserve

There's a reason it will never be audited

There's a reason why JP Morgan founded the Federal Reserve

There's a reason why the debt will never go down

Americans exist to work for banks. Every dollar you make and then some will go to a bank. They own all the major corporations, they own the media, they control the money supply, they own the government, they own everything. Its literally world domination.

Please, pic related was twice the man Hitler was, Hitler served his purpose in bringing Germany out of the economic disaster it was in and making it a Power but he eventually ran it into the ground.

I'll be going to school soon and I hope Ill get a chance to write a paper on von Saucken, he was one interesting sumbitch and German who served his country to the bitter end

>so why didn't Hitler just exterminate all of Britain's soldiers at Dunkirk

-Rundstedt faced heavy losses in the fight in France
-Tanks really got their asses kicked
-asked Hitler for a regroup period to rest and resupply
-Hitler agrees seeing as his planes could always just bomb the British to hell if they tried to escape
-French hold off German attack
-Brits have enough time due to Rundstedt pause to escape
-cloudy weather prevents the Lufftwaffe from doing anything substantial


The "hitler let them go because he was so nice!" thing is another neo-nazi meme
heres a video on it, but its pretty francoboo

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Should have nuked the cunts, Hitler was a pansy too.

wtf i hate poland now

Brilliant retort, Mohammad.

Tell me, was being jealous of Nazi Germany's success and joining forces with the Jews just to bring down Germany at the cost of exterminating your own people worth it?

Hitler would be an irrelevant nobody if the Versailles treaty hadn't been a disaster. Your view of history is simplistic and incomplete.

I like Hitler as much as the next guy but to say he didn't want to conquer eastern Europe and Russia you have to be willingly ignorant. He did not want to fight the British or anyone else, though.

He was more concerned being flanked and pushed the army elsewhere as the British where already on the retreat and believed it was in best interest to secure France rather than leave him self vulnerable to an attack elsewhere.

Probablys because he didn't want to be at war with another superpower that he idolised and most likely believed Britain would be a threat to his Reich in war time.

He did try destroy Britain with the Luftwaffe?

I wouldn't say it's all allied propaganda, the man attacked the Sudetenland, said he won't be aggressive again, then attacked, Czechoslovakia, then attacked Poland, then conquered France as well as Russia? I'm pretty sure that's conclusive evidence that he wanted to be the worlds number 1

good job completely ignoring my entire post you clown

>Polish Atrocities Against the German Minority in Poland
>Volk und Reich Verlag Berlin, 2nd. revised ed., 1940, 311 pp.
>Volk und Reich

Your post is simplistic and incomplete. Have some primary sources.

unqualified-reservations.b-l-o-g-s-p-o-t.com/2010/03/world-war-ii-primary-sourcebook.html

Nobody here seems to have a grasp of the global politics of the situation.

>Fascism on the rise
>Hitler violates the treaty of Versailles
>begins rapid expansion with poland
>France and poland had a secret military pact. obligating the french to enter the fray.
>Britain's entering the war was necessary to help their ally France,

>Germany broke the treaty of Versailles
>in order to assert their dominance France and Britain needed to ensure that their will be done

I guess the conversation is about who was the "evilest". I think this is not a productive topic. Machiavelli's "Ideal Prince" has good and evil. he does what is necessary to maintain his power and resolve issues the country faces.

Hitler
>Lost the war

not an argument.

Chapter 14 of Mein Kampf. Hitler talks all about how he wants to invade Russia and how it would be better for the russian people anyway.

Youre a joke if you dont realize Hitlers and nazism plan to colonize eastern europe. That was their whole fucking goal

>the Soviet Union controlled all the recourses that Germany needed.

I think hitter brings this up on the recorded tape with the leader of Finland at the time, saying how he needs to launch an attack on the Soviets before they capture a massive oil reserve that was desperately needed for the German war machine. Should have a listen to it m8, really does capture Hitlers hatred of the Soviets

Britain
>Lose the empire

The British and the French wouldn't have gave two shits about Poland if they had known what was going to happen afterwards. WWII was a mistake.

The treaty of Versailles was meant to permanently neuter Germany. No one with any sense would actually expect them to keep to it.

It's like chopping someone's legs off and then blowing their brains out because they somehow managed to build a wheelchair.

Churchill had significant American connections. I'm of the opinion he knew full well what would happen and was willingly party to it.

Well hes right about Dunkirk

They could've pushed your shit in, but let you off the hook in hopes of buying some sort of goodwill

>No, theres the right side and the wrong side.

You tell 'em, Joshua!

>told by the winners that the opposing side were evil. this would be the complete opposite if Hitler had won though.

I know you didn't have time to read that essay. I recommend that you do, since it's a lot more enlightening to read contemporary documentation than to base your analysis of the 1940s on one passage of a chapter of a book a guy wrote in 1924.

Arrete d'acheter le brainwashage des kikes, gros Bubba Américain...les Nazis était simplement des Germanophiles qui avait trouvé un moyen de niqué le systeme monétaire Juif et Anglo...

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I heard that Churchill made a Faustian deal with the Jewish lobby in Britain and promised to get America involved in a war with Germany at any cost. Not sure if that is entirely true, but it is believable.

Even they realized this. America and even the Brits wanted to go easy on Germany, but France was really autistic about cucking the shit out of Germany.

And years later, they cooled down. they let Hilter build up his military, move into the Rhineland, annex Austria, and take the Sudetenland. This idea that poor old uncle adolf was being bullied by these obtuse asshole and HAD to go to war is dumb

yeah, this is true. but you can't enact a treaty and then not enforce it. it's sort of a "oh shit, now what" situation when the germans threw off the yolk

>The British and the French wouldn't have gave two shits about Poland if they had known what was going to happen afterwards. WWII was a mistake.

Lmao if Hitler knew what would happen he wouldn't try to be as aggressive as he was

He actually knew that if Germany loses the losses to the nation would be insurmountable, he took a massive gamble that didn't pay off

>just because Hitler said he was going to do something, and then did it, doesnt mean he actually did it.

you arent even making an argument. You just posted some article and are saying "IF YOU DONT READ THIS WHOLE THING NOW I WIN THE ARGUMENT!"

And that was the last time we'd ever consider the French seriously.

Quel bon goy que tu es, Bubba...le traité de Versaille était absolument ridicule...ca clpippait les noix de l'allemagne a un point ridicule...il ne pouvait pas avoir une armée descentes...anyway...les Nazis ont été porter au pouvoir par les Sionistes pour achever leur plan de domination mondiale...

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>It's like chopping someone's legs off and then blowing their brains out because they somehow managed to build a wheelchair.

Tres bon commentaire pour un chien Anglo...

This is how they shape and subvert ideas, one useful idiot after the other such as OP and the fag that follows him. If they killed off the intellectuals, what was the purpose of Operation Paperclip? How can you compare Hitler to Pol Pot?