>As a result of her abuse, she suffered from post-traumatic-stress disorder (PTSD), severe anorexia, chronic depression and hallucinations
>The doctors judged her to be "totally competent" and that there was "no major depression or other mood disorder which affected her thinking".
What does Sup Forums think?
wow. cranium engaged
>Wednesday 11 May 2016
thx for the old news, faggot
A hose, a car and some ducktape would have been a whole lot cheaper.
>been in intensive treatment since childhood
>did not get better or significantly improve
>doctors judge her to be mentally competent to make the decision
She should be allowed euthanasia instead of being forced to live a life of agonizing suffering being locked up in a psych ward for the rest of her life, wishing every day for death to free her.
>inb4 christfag prolife dipshits or armchair psychologists/psychiatrists on Sup Forums automatically go hurr she suffers from mental illness so she is automatically incompetent of making a decision in regards to suicide myth
False.
m.jme.bmj.com
>One psychiatrist, speaking at the Canadian Medical Association’s recent annual general council meeting in Halifax, said many of the patients in her maximum-security hospital are “competent adults. Their conditions are grievous and irremediable, and they do cause enduring suffering,” she said. “Some of my patients contemplate suicide as a means of escape.”
nationalpost.com
This is me. I personally suffer from severe TRD, Anxiety, OCD and BPD. Multiple attempts and psych ward stays. I'm nearing 35 and have been in treatment since 12. I've been through every class of anti depressants multiple times, mood stabilizers, antipsychotics, 6 rounds of ECT, DBT, CBT, and did shit like shrooms and ketamine.
None of that has ever made me a functional person or one that does not yearn for death every single day. I get SSI and my parents take care of me. When they die I am likely to spend the reat of my life locked up in a psych ward, or one of those monitored group homes where everything dangerous (that you can kill yourself with) is removed.
This is my greatest nightmare. I don't want to spend the rest of my life like this. I shouldn't have to spend it in unamenable debilitating suffering every day.
So that's how I personally feel. I don't believe anybody with depression or whatever should be able to walk into a clinic and recieve a free injection. But for those suffering from severe treatment-resistant psychiatric illnesses and are judged to be mentally competent, where many years to even multiple decades that have not responded to treatment, it should be an option for said person.
For stuff like treatment-resistant depression in conditions like schizoaffective where psychosis does occasionally happen, mental incompetence is a likely scenario.
In that case they should be restored to a state of competency or being absent of the psychosis and then be allowed to make the decision.
>don't want to spend the rest of my life in a psych ward
good luck bro. I wish you dont have to either.
can't you get a gun or something to check out?
The essence of freedom is complete control over your own body - and by extension, life. We don't expect you burgers to understand this.
This is wickedness and evil. This is why societies need religion.
They are very "enlightened" and humane people in The Netherlands. But look how easily they turn themselves to evil.
If she's just baggage, why waste resources trying to save her? Let her end it.
>nighttime
>aussies are out in force to shitpost
>can't you get a gun
I was involuntarily committed after my attempts and my state is one of the worst for guns, so nope.
Even then my parents and personal team of psychs know I'm suicidal as fuck and watch me like a hawk. When I go out, I am supervised. I can no longer drive, and they lock up every viable method.
So this is it. I am trapped in this fucking life, in this house. Every night I go to bed and pray I don't wake up. My life is JUST.
At least I can still smoke which I do like crazy in the hopes that I will shorten my life and die earlier.
>complete control over your own body
If you want to kill yourself then do it. But setting up some state bureaucracy to do it is just sick and dangerous.
This was a very bad post.
Literally the only reason to be against voluntary euthanasia is if you're a statist cuck who views it as a means of tax evasion.
>muh make believe god
Fuck off. Go away christfaggot.
>do it yourself
But I can't for the following reasons.
You always lock me up if I try to.
You constantly restrict the means to do so.
>I can't
Of course you can. It isn't rocket science. The human body is a very fragile thing.
Why not just let us virgins fuck her what a waste
Suicide is a sin and depression is an imaginary disease.
>hurr look at these three paragraphs I wrote about how deep it is to be mentally ill, give me sympathy pls
Mind over matter faggot. You're nothing but an attention seeker.
I think anyone that wants to have assisted suicide should be able to. The world is way too overpopulated anyways. I have no friends and no one likes me. I'm 25 and I will never be productive to society or have a group of friends for probably the rest of my life. I'd rather just leave now before my job has a really good chance of being replaced by robots in 5 years.
>i've never seen war
>i've never seen a man's head blown off right infront of me
>i've never watched a man mentally break during a firefight
>i've never seen the worst humanity can offer
>b...but i was abused!
>PTSD OVER LOAD
when will this meme end?
Why even come on a Christian board if you don't believe in God?
It's almost like you're an attention seeking faggot. That can't be true, right?
You niggers keep increasing gun control laws to prevent poeple from killing themselves. You keep putting fences up on bridges, reducing carbon monoxide emissions from cars, barriers on train tracls, you keep diluting helium tanks with oxygen and have banned drugs that you can easily kill yourself with.
Nope. It's actually extremely resilient. Trust me. The vast majority of suicide attempts fail. Only a handful are effective and almost guranteed ways to die.
>christfaggot forcing his subjective morality on others
fuck off
Make something of your life, faggot.
>suffered from (...) chronic depression and hallucinations
> there was "no major depression or other mood disorder which affected her thinking".
wat
>christian board
Lmao.
This board is Nazi. The Nazis hated Christianity. Nazis alone euthanized tens of thousands of people with severe mental illnesses or deformities because even they understood the concept of empathy and granted them a mercy death rather than having them remain locked up in a hospital for the rest of theirnlives.
Trade
>The vast majority of suicide attempts fail
This is because most of them are just attention seeking.
The dutch believe in helping junkies avoid consequences, giving teenagers hormone treatments and not punishing murderers if they're under 25.
The Dutch are a meme people which is why the French, English, Spanish and Portuguese took the valuable parts of the new world while they kept fucking Greenland.
Fuck the Dutch
Does not automatically imply mental incompetence.
Only 23% of depressed patients have impaired capacity to the point where they cannot consent to any medical treatment or refuse it.
>implying morality can exist without God
Kek. One of the problems atheists have is the unbelievers' assertion that it is possible to determine what is right and what is wrong without God. They have a fundamental inability to concede that to be effectively absolute a moral code needs to be beyond human power to alter.
On this misunderstanding is a supposed conundrum about whether there is any good deed that could be done only by a religious person, and not done by a Godless one. Like all such questions, this contains another question: what is good, and who is to decide what is good?
Left to himself, Man can in a matter of minutes justify the incineration of populated cities; the deportation, slaughter, disease and starvation of inconvenient people and the mass murder of the unborn.
I have heard people who believe themselves to be good, defend all these things, and convince themselves as well as others. Quite often the same people will condemn similar actions by different countries, often with great vigour.
For a moral code to be effective, it must be attributed to, and vested in, a non-human source. It must be beyond the power of humanity to change it to suit itself.
Its most powerful expression is summed up in the words 'Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends'.
The huge differences which can be observed between Christian societies and all others, even in the twilit afterglow of Christianity, originate in this specific injunction.
She is white, of course the liberal shit government would help her die, that's their plan for all of us. If this was a Dindu they would bend over backwards to make sure she breeds as much as possible.
Is this the solution to our problems?
Convince all the easily triggered numales and SJWs that euthanasia is the answer?
Why would a Muslim country allow euthanasia?
Nope. Nice memes though. Even most hangings fail.
God does not exist. Get the fuck over it. Moraloty should be based on utilitarianism and nothing else.
>doesn't believe Sup Forums is a Christian board
>doesn't believe Hitler was a Christian, at least at the start of his Reich (the successful part)
No wonder your life is shit, you're blind to the truth. I'll pray for you.
As far as Hitler is concerned it's kinda ironic that everything went to shit when he abandoned God right?
Fuck you Christfaggot prolife cunts are the worst. Cunts like you are why people don't abort babies with Zika or Downs Syndrome and prevent unnecessary suffering because muh god and suffering gets you closer.
You clearly don't know what PTSD is.
It is certainly being overused by people who don't have it (especially by feminists which is ironic) but to say people who have been abused don't suffer it is grossly incorrect and displays and extreme lack of intelligence on your behalf.
You are (((literally))) no worse than the feminsists who hijacked a sincere (and severe) mental illness in a means to make them feel special.
The Danish own Greenland you dipshit.
Old news faggot
I have tried for years. It's best to just let those who want to die, die
Hitler wasn't a Christian you idiot. He blasted Christianity in private and called it weak. He tried to implement "positive Christianity" which was a highly-bastardized version of your religion that confines to NatSoc ideals.
Hitler allowed abortions if the fetus was deformed or disabled.
Hitler believed in reducing unnecessary suffering.
So fuck off and eat shit if you think I should be locked up in a nuthouse until I die suffering in complete agony.
>God does not exist. We should get rid of morality.
Fedorable. And you wonder why your life is shit...
Hey you remember that time that the atheism fairy caused nothing to explode into everything for no reason and then magically form sentient life? Yeah that was totally believable.
Remind me again why you're on a Christian board?
>being scientifically-illiterate
I am on a Nazi board, faggot.
Suffering does get you closer to God, gaytheist. Someone suffering for a few decades and then inheriting eternity in paradise seems like a fair trade off, donchathink?
2, 3, 1, 4
Everyone that gets PTSD from tweets should be given forced euthanasia.
If you want to kill you self ,kill your self , the state should not be involved. This is nuts
Hitler believed in a secular state. He wanted to ban hunting, slaughterhouses, and vivisection as well.
The man was humane and sought to reduce as much suffering to people and animals as possible. He wasn't a prolifer Christfaggot and understood that euthanasia in cases of unamenable debilitating suffering to be allowed.
go back to fucking reddit
every faggot that wants people to feel sorry fro themselves use ptsd
oh someone hit you? you dont have ptsd
your dad hit you a lot and made you feel bad? you dont have ptsd
you lived through something you could have easily stopped? you dont have ptsd
you're (((literally))) retarded zealand
no go back to only being useful for lord of the rings movies
Dear God, the second one from the right could smother me to death with her ass and I'd be happy.
Anyway, I don't see an issue with it. I support voluntary euthanasia, regardless of health. I'd like to get euthanized.
Please see my earlier posts. You guys keep banning and restricting all the viable means to do so.
Just saying
Euthanasia is a cop out. Why is everything going to shit? Oh. I know. Nobody follows the unitary Christian message. Gotchya
as long as it is a white person wanting to commit suicide, Europeans won't find an issue with it.
Mother Theresa in the flesh. Eat shit Christnigger.
Its an interesting point you raise faggot,
>Christian Hitler
Beloved by his country, landslide election win, turned a shitty post war state into a superpower
Gaytheist Hitler
>abandoned by God, responsible for the death of millions of his countrymen, country ends up split, half going to his commie enemies, kills himself in a bunker, hated for generations after his death
If your point is that man is nothing without God then you totally convinced me.
If gods real, why are you a faggot?
Checkmate christfags
Why the fuck you would pay money for some Jews to kill you, when you can perfectly well order Fentanyl from black market (50 times the potency as pure, pharmacy-grade heroin)
Take 1-2 gram without tolerance and it is no question you wil die. You will simply fall into opiate coma and stop breathing. No pain. Nothing. I bet the Euthanasia by Jews is actually painful.
Become a writer. Your brief paragraphs were well-written and interesting. Don't throw away your talents, we have too few these days.
Also,
>blah blah you think I should be locked up
No, you should just get over it. If you have no faith in God and believe man to be the ultimate authority of course your life is going to be shit. No atheist is truly happy, despite how hard they may pretend to be.
You've made the first step by coming onto a Chris it an board. Deep down part of you yearns for God's love, as is natural. Next step, go to Church. Any denomination (even Protestant heresy) is better that feeling you must be living with everyday.
I'll pray for you brother. Good luck.
>hitler came to power because of christianity
No. Because he rightfully saw the treaty of Versailles as destructive and the need for Germany to have a strong leader uniting all classes and citizens against the common enemy which were the Jews.
But the man himself did not believe in allowing unnecessary suffering to go unabated. Hemce why he supported animal rights, was against hunting, allowed abortion the fetus was deformed or was disabled, and gave a mercy death to patients suffering from unamenable severe mental conditions.
>Believing anything Psychological
its just pseudo science hence people with mental illnes dont get better
The value of human life is bigger than some nonsense ideology.
>look nothing exploded into everything this image proves it
You realise that actual quantum physicists don't know how that shit happened, right? The common theory for years was two membranes banging against each other, and now the most common theory is 'quantum evaporation' magically making it happen.
That will change again, it always has. Ever since the Big Bang was first theorised by Catholic Priest and Physicict Georges Lemitre (gaytheists of the time hated that btw, because the theory all the clever atheists held then was that the universe was eternal).
Unless you have some insight they were lacking?
I'll pass. I just want an end to my suffering as soon as possible.
Stay rekt christfag.
>value of life
The value of not having to live a life of agonizing untreatable suffering is greater than your nonsense fairy-tale religion.
>every faggot that wants people to feel sorry fro themselves use ptsd
Prove it.
>oh someone hit you? you dont have ptsd
>your dad hit you a lot and made you feel bad? >you dont have ptsd
>you lived through something you could have >easily stopped? you dont have ptsd
Proved my point here you have no understanding of PTSD whatsoever.
You even going to try use some of the 'Merican education to put a lowly Kiwi in his place, by proving your intellectual superiority, or nah? I'd probably be too dumb to get it anyway, aye Chad? Lol.
Wow it's almost like you're invested in being depressed. Actively looking for excuses as to why you MUST be miserable.
You don't often see Pity Olympics like that outside of tumblr.
Why do you think a Christian board is the best avenue for this fucktarded attention seeking, gaytheist?
I have seen your post i am 40 i have been in the same shit since i was 22 when i had my first my first psychotic episode , and it only got worse after that ,everytime i went to a nuthouse they had a new diagnosis for me. But i get so mad about this euthanasia . Because if there is one thing what a human should do it is keep on fighting
>wow hurr it's just like you want to be depressed
No. Because I simply believe that nobody should have to spend their entire lives in unbearable, debilitating suffering that does not respond to all reasonable and multiple attempts at treatment. Physical or mental.
This board isn't christshit. It's National Socialist.
>BAAAWWWWWW PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEE!!!
Back to tumblr, pal.
>dude keep fighting brah it will get better xD
Lol I fought for multiple decades. It didn't. I don't want to suffer more on the very small chance that I mighy one day magically get better.
If you spent 35 years of your life gambling at a casino and losing everytime, it is perfectly acceptable and rational to stop playing.
Nice argument faggot. OP asked for Sup Forumss opinion and I gave mine. Cry more.
Then mind over matter, you attention seeking faggot. Or do you genuinely believe that once you're depressed there is no chance of recovery? You remember all those 28 year olds storming Normandy? Seeing bits of their friends shredded by German machine guns? Well they managed to get over that shit.
So explain to me how you will "always be sad and blah blah please give me attention because my feelings"
If you can't grasp that, how can you not grasp that nationalism and God must go hand in hand, and that any nation that is removed from God will surely fail?
35 years is very little in the grand scheme of eternity.
And what did you do for those 35 years? Did you help others? Did you volunteer at soup kitchens? Did you try to improve yourself mentally, educationally or physically? Did you even have ONE tangible goal? ONE thing to work towards?
Or did you just expect people to feels sorry for you when you told them you were depressed? Cos all that really happens is they think you're a weak faggot.
Also, ever think you're depressed BECAUSE you're an atheist, not the other way round?
i agree on all accords, suicide is degenerate and all sins are inherently degenerate. telling anyone you are suicidal or """""depressed""""" is the ultimate in attention seeking behaviour and is only done by the lowliest of scum. that said, people who are genuinely suicidal literally don't care that it is degenerate, they'll go for it anyway.
you can tell when someone is a leech on society, instead of trying to help them they should either be forced to act as regular people do, and benefit society, or they can simply opt out and no longer be a burden
>these people got over it
>SO YOU CAN TOO
This is how I know you are fucking retarded.
Doctors can make an educated condition as to the prognosis of a condition by looking at how long the patient has suffered from his illness , and what treatments he sought.
When you spend many years to decades and have exhausted all reasonable treatments, you can come to the rational conclusion that the likelihood of you getting better is quite very small.
That's how you can decide whether or not to end it. There are no cures for locked-in syndrome. Should such patients have to live with the beyond hellish condition because there's always a chance no matter how small of there one day being a cure? No.
I go back to my casino analogy. You lose EVERYTIME for multiple decades. It's perfectly rational and logical to stop playing.
Goddamn you are stupid as fuck. Read my earlier post. I sought to get better ever since I was 12 seeking multiple psychiatrists and going through countless treatments, I tried to get a job and lead a normal life. But my depression is so severe and debilitating that many days I cannot get out of bed, and it simply does not respond to treatment.
educated conclusion*
>(((Doctors))) tell me I'll always be sad after I whine to them about how its so hard being an enlightened freethinker in this land of sheeple
Mind over matter faggot. If they got over something far worse it is possible. The only thing stopping you is yourself. You're invested in this. You've spent the whole thread talking about how hard it is being you, and how you'll never be happy. It makes you look ridiculous.
>Cry more
That's what you've been doing this whole damn thread.
The only reason I have the conditions is because of shitty genes and my parents not caring that severe mental illness runs through their families and thus choosing to avoid having a biological child and risk him/her inheriting the hellish diseases from their faulty genes.
>my depression is debilitating
Jesus Christ. You're so invested in this its like you rabidly try to explain WHY you can't possibly get over your depression. Pathetic.
You know what you never hear? People in cancer wards saying "well, my lungs might be hamburger meat and every breath is agony, but at least I'm not depressed."
Why do you think that is?
Go to church before its too late faggot.
>my ancestors survived millennia of wars, famines, plague and travelling the globe, but none of that was as hard as my depression
Do you actually listen to yourself you deluded gaytheist?
Do you think what you're saying sounds reasonable?
How low will you go to get the attention you crave?
depression is the most overdiagnosed """ailment""" to ever exist, attention seeking faggots use it as their go-to. anyone who publicly expresses "i'm depressed :(" will never kill themselves.
it is a personality trait among those who are genuinely suicidal, you can't "fix" their personality, meaning there is no solution. it does not mean they can't live happy lives, since they're not actually depressed, they're just suicidal under certain conditions
is the problem that you don't have the energy to get out of bed, or that you simply don't feel like it at that particular moment in time?
>dude keep fighting brah it will get better xD
I never said that it will get better ,my aunt and grandma died in a long stay nuthouse,its not looking good for me. But you have to keep on fighting , you belief in science maybe tommorow the cure is there, its not like you have cancer and are going to die soon.
Meant to quote
Now you are just meme-spouting, projecting and offering no compelling or meaningful arguments.
This is the state of the board. I try to come here for healthy dialogue with other people, offer substantive and factual arguments and get responded to with memes and logical fallacies.
Let me just reply to you one more time.
You are a dumb christfaggot who shills his make-believe god and implies that morality is not possible without the existence of deitie(s) which is simply wrong.
Because damn me for replying to the OP, offering my belief on the subject mattet, and why I've come to the conclusions that I believe in by stating my experiences in life.
>I am absolutely miserable but you don't believe that nothing exploded into everything for no reason so hahahaha your opinion is wrong and I will never be happy. Give attention to me pls.
You sure seem like a real go-getter!
Probably because they're on hydromorphone. No but you're right.
>these people don't suffer from depression and are in more physical pain than you
>so wy are you complaining!
Holy shit your argument is identical to the faggots that go "HURR WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS ISSUE WHEN THERE ARE STARVING KIDS IN AFRICA."
Fuck yourself idiot. I complain because I suffer from a condition that disables me and renders me unable to live a normal and happy life.
I risk getting locked up in the psych ward for the rest of my life because I wish to end my existence, and eagerly yearn for death every single day.
See above faggot.
>depression don't real
>conspiracy memes
No. I m suicidal all the fucking time. Not a single day goes by where I don't wish to shove a 12 gauge into my mouth and blow my cranium into smithreens.
The problem is that I suffer from severe depression which debilitates me, makes me experience complete anhedonia, and want to die every fucking die. And it does not respond to treatment despite exhausting countless avenues over the course of multiple decades.
See you fil to understand. I don't want to live a life locked up in a fucking ward until I finally die. I do not want to gamble on the very small chance that one day I might get better when I have already spent so much time trying to do so.
Yes I believe in science, but I also believe in the humanistic approach of reducing as much suffering as possible.
Instead of wasting tax payer money why doesn't she just kill herself at home?
And my ancestors surviving such calamities is irrelevant. Not everybody is able to pick themselves up by their boot straps and continue the innate primal instinct of surviving, and having sex to make babies. You act like I haven't tried to get better when I have since I was a child. Piss off.
every fucking day*
>I'm suicidal all the time since I was 12
>still alive
Hmmm, you're sure you're not one of those attention seekers, right atheist?
She was in intensive inpatient treatment.
It's actually more cost-effective to society for her to die. She is unable to work and thus produces no productivity and furthermore she relies on welfare and disability benefits.
go to tumblr you fucking retard
I hope you are trolling otherwise you need to be gassed
See, you completely belittle everyone else, even your starving ancestors, and attempt to make yourself the centre of the universe for attention. You crave it.
A Christian board isn't the place for you. You'd be more at home on tumblr. Attention seeking is their raison detre
I've attempted multiple times. I tried hanging myself twice, swallowing a bunch of benzos with massive quantities of alcohol and even tried the party time balloon method but the tank was diluted with oxygen. So I just damaged my lungs.
Anyone who doesn't want to be here should be allowed to check out early. Prevents gene pool from being dirtied, gets rid of baggage, allows endless suffering of person to end and prevents public distress/inconvenience/mess. Give them a way to do it humanely and privately.
There is a cure for that pussy.
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