Whats wrong with same-sex marriage ?

whats wrong with same-sex marriage ?

i honestly cant see how one could consider this degenerate

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It's against the rules of human biology.

there are no "rules" in biology

Marriage is a religious ceremony between a male and female. Homosexual marriage is a farce and insult to this millennia long tradition.

It's always the OPs that feel that way

It is degenerate, but it's also mostly irrelevant and barely worth discussing right now. Not when western civilization is literally drowning in third worlders. Anyone who makes it their single issue on the left or the right is letting in the Trojan horse.

In that case, all marriage is against "the rules of human biology".

why should two People who will never be able to produce children get tax breaks that are meant to save Money for their future children?

fuck whoever you want, but stop dragging the state into this bullshit

So infertile people shouldn't be able to get married either? Or people who just don't want kids?

+Government should have no buisness in marriage and if priests don't want to marry fags fags should know that they won't get married by them

also fuck faggots for wanting cake, bake your own fucking cake or go to a fucking gay baker.

how many People are infertile? maybe 1%

how many gays will adopt children? not a lot.

if they adopt a kid, they get tax breaks for children and also children aid.

what's the Problem? Do you need the magical state to "approve" your marriage?

>Do you need the magical state to "approve" your marriage?
It comes down to whether you believe people deserve equal rights under the law. If you don't, then we'll have to agree to disagree. If you do, you can't argue against gay marriage.

>marriage
>religious institution
>"marriage equality"
>buzzword to paint religious institutions as "homophobic" (another buzzword)
>government steps in to change religious institutions

You don't see anyone demanding Islam accept homosexual marriage because that would offend them or mess with their "culture" or some stupid shit.

>You don't see anyone demanding Islam accept homosexual marriage
Yeah you do. Muslims all over the world are doing this.

We're talking about in Western society, though. Pointing at muslims and saying "well, they aren't doin' it!" isn't an argument. You don't even agree with muslims.

yeah why can't poofs just make up their own traditions. They can give each other HIV as a show of how much they love each other

why is marriage a government issue? why not issue a childrens tax benefit where you can sign up and get the shit you would from a gov't marriage

and then you can get married by your priest or whoever will marry you.

>whats wrong with same-sex marriage ?
Well first of all, do you draw a line between marriage and civil union? They are for all intents and purposes the same thing, minus the religious connotation so same-sex marriage ultimately comes down to forcing religious institutions or even just religious individuals (like the gay wedding cake fiasco) to do things against their religion.

You sir are a Peter puffer

I don't think its degenerate. Homosexual culture and society promotes rampant promiscuity. Gay marriage promotes monogamy within a community that is inherently degenerate. Letting them marry could only serve to promote traditional family. My main concern with gay marriage is that any child raised by homosexuals would most likely be raised to be a braindead leftist. This is why I think the alt-right and right wing conservatives in general should champion gay marriage in order to gain increased support from homosexuals. Increased support from gays will draw support from impressionable women ("fag hags" who will do whatever gay people do in lieu of virtue signalling). It could also increase the chances that adopted children in gay parent families will be raised in a conservative environment.

There are. The nature of humans is to fuck the other Part in order to get offspring.
I dont despise gay marriage. You could fuck goats on a dayli Basis and I wouldn't care. But why do you fags want to marry in a church? Gays can go for a eingetragene Lebenspartnerschaft which is essentially the same without the church thing.

We were just waiting for the bush tax cuts to partially expire to bring back the marriage penalty. Fags gonna pay like married people.

>whats wrong with same-sex marriage
1. Sticking in the chocolate starfish is how you get the increased chance of spreading a plethora of diseases.

2. Two women scissoring is appropriating male culture, and abhorrently offensive to society.

3. All of it is a slippery slope to pic related.

Now hurry along and go prep your Arabic bull, you socially progressive faggot.

"Same-sex marriage" is a contradiction in terms. Go to any pre-2003 Merriam-Webster's dictionary, and "marriage" is defined as "the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law."

Thus by definition, "marriage" is between people of the opposite sex. It was only in 2003 that through political pressure they changed the definition to include same-sex couples.

This would be like changing the definition of "dog" to include cats. And the phrase "same-sex marriage" is like saying "a dog that meows."

>Yeah you do. Muslims all over the world are doing this.
You mean like ISIS? They're being highly effective in influencing the world, just look at Europe.

every child deserves a mother and a father

that's how babies are made ffs; so it should be relatively easy to accomplish

the research tends to indicate that absence of a father is the most detrimental factor

but on the fundamental level, this shouldn't be that hard to understand

it is the best place to draw the line on what is considered degenerate and unnatural.

show me a place that allows fag marriage or fag unions that doesn't have trannies as well

Marriage is an institution designed for producing and raising children
If a couple doesn't want children, there's no reason to get married

Children are biologically hardwired to seek both a mother and a father figure. The lack of either of these in their youth will fuck them up and give them deep seated mental problems. This is why bizarre unions such as two women; or 3 men and 5 women; or 7 men, 6 woman, 2 donkeys and a goldfish, are all incredibly harmful to children, and society as a whole.

Marriage is the building block of the community, bizarre unions are not biologically natural

>Leaf
>not shitposting?

well that's an odd proxy, friend!

This country may be cucked but atleast we dont have gay marriage

Gay marriages make the idea of family and marriage weaker.

Marriages are an union of a man and a woman to have kids and raise them.

When you change its definition, you make it weaker. So, people start believing that marriage is not about raising kids, but cohabitation, tax breaks and sex.

that is such a ridiculously simplistic way to look at it

there are no prescriptive "rules" in nature

the only laws in nature are unbreakable by definition

"human nature" obviously implies homosexuality as well and there are good evolutionary explanations for the existence of utility of homosexuals

they could have evolved to care for orphans because they dont have to look after their own offspring

>26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

Lets be clear about Homosexuals.
The moral fabric in the community is built by the standard of marriage. 1 man, 1 woman.
Homosexuals do not need to be married to take turns making mushroom soup. Cruise glory holes and truck stops for their deviant behavior.

im in favor of monogamy and against promiscuity

virginity until marriage is the ideal for me

i just dont see why we shouldnt promote the same thing for homosexuals

If you seriously don't see why homosexuality is considered a detriment to ethno-tribalists you should consider suicide

>i just dont see why we shouldnt promote the same thing for homosexuals
because the number of 100% homosexuals (aka not bisexual, literally full homo) is basically 0. the rest have mental issues stemming from abuse and/or social conditioning

cuz its not contributive to society

When your 12 year old grand kids are calling you a bigot for not approving of their relationship with a 50 year old man or an animal you'll start to understand the problems with appeasing this degeneracy

>"human nature" obviously implies homosexuality as well and there are good evolutionary explanations for the existence of utility of homosexuals
Those are bullshit fairy tales made up on the spot to describe an anomaly, not actually "explanations" -- "W-we need more people to raise the kids! Because our kids don't make evolutionary sense, literally trying to kill themselves for 10 out of the first 20 years of their lives! According to the laws of evolution, we should have never made it... so gays are ... uh... scientifically sound!". If you bullshit about some "socially-raised" evolution, that directly contradicts the foundations of evolution -- the fathers of the next generation must be the strongest, and that story is that the strongest fathers are more prone to dying.

The "It's natural!" argument doesn't fly, because it's not natural. Humans aren't homosexual. They are heterosexual. There are many holes on this planet that fit a human penis, but only one hole that can biologically quicken when the penis does its job, and that hole can only biologically quicken when a human penis did the job. It's not a difficult concept to understand. There are some animals that are naturally homosexual, because they are hermaphrodites.

Excusing any behavior because "It happens in nature" is stupid. Animals kill themselves in nature, so why do people complain that gay teens are offing themselves so often? Animals rape in nature, so why do people complain about rape statistics? Cyanide is a natural chemical, so why don't you go ingest a few teaspoons? Humans are at their most exceptional when they resist destructive, demeaning, and degenerate natural tendencies.

Dislike em cuz the left has won them over by identity politics and now they're anti American cucks. Nothing wrong with fucking a man in the ass in the privacy of your own home I suppose.

you dont seem to understand the argument

i didnt imply that children dont need both parents

i just said that its far better to be raised by homosexuals than as an orphan

and of course you can call any explanation a fairy-tale if it contradicts your previous opinion

and natural is literally a synonym for "appearing in nature"

natural is not a synonym for good in any sense you moron

its totally irrelevant if something is "unnatural or natural"

God bless the chrisrian parties

its degeneration of family and next step lord who rule will be can do anything with weak,atomised and hedonised society

allegory: Roman empire
it make your nation weak. and in this universe weak dying very quickly. nations dyin slower but the same happen

its all fun and games until someone gets a bepis in the butt hole

without children (and gays and lesbians obviously "cant" make childrens) you have less people to continue heritage of ancestors, also many partners increase venerical diseases lie HIV.

but you replied "lets allow gay people have childrens" sure, lets try it and observe

aaand what happen? these kids have mental problems. why? because thay dont have good roots, just insane "parents" with mental illness named faggotry. it make childrens weaker ( mental illnes) weak childrens -> weak adults -> weak country

and this world dont promote "mercy" very well. you have a law to live only when your nation are strong enough.
weak countries fall becasue they cant protect borders the same way like in past
invaders come and mix with weak nation make them stronger
... like they made with Poland many times

1. Tax breaks exist, to my knowledge, mainly to encourage family-building, its an investment by the state into the family. There is no family to be built in a same-sex marriage,

2. nor should there be since we still don't know if children can even consistently grow up well under same-sex parents, and we can't afford to compromise the nuclear family even further with feminism utterly destroying marriages, divorce-rates as high as never before with white birth-rates being as low as they've ever been.

Gays can live together without marriage, same-sex marriage is a meme to push the boundaries of what is socially acceptable and a vehicle to push pro-gay narratives by selling it as some kind of revolution.

How much are you paid to endlessly post this shit?

Everyone knows the threads like this are just shills.

no kids = no benefits

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Abandon thread!

No children.
Homosex is degradation of human values.
Cannot put benis inside vagoo, so there cannot be a real consummation and therefore they can't even get married, lol

Saged

you are now aware of the existence of adoption programs

but its obviously true

rules are prescriptive and exclusively made by humans

natural laws however are descriptive

isnt the promotion of monogamy a benefit ?

>human being
>faggot

Pick one.

You are a birth defect and a reproductive dead end.

"Homophobe"? No one is afraid of you, we are disgusted by you.

You are similar to dog shit on the bottom of a shoe. No one is afraid of that, but they are naturally disgusted by it.

And the reason why your suicide rate is so high? Because deep down inside, you know there is something wrong with you.

Nothing. It's a obvious win-win.

it's pretty fucking gay bro and no one likes being gay, not even gays

Its fine, until being against it will lead to you getting put on a cross and burned alive by the media

For example, that bakery that didn't want to bake cakes for gay weddings

it doesn't exist
marriage means something specific, fags don't qualify and the state and certainly the church have no reason to change it

promoting homosexuality was never about tolerance, it has always been about assaulting the traditional notions of family and sexuality,

Nice slippery slope

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there was already a thread about this shit today

just watch this video, its the ultimate redpill about marriage

He's not implying that "natural" is inherently good. He's saying that though there's not an inherent connection between those two traits, homosexuality can't be called "unnatural," because it's found in nature. If anyone is trying to draw connections between morality and naturalness, it's you.
In addition, you're misusing the concept of "laws of nature." You're restricting the definition of "natural" to exclude what doesn't support your views.

>name calling
>ur gay lol XDDD
not an argument.

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Not a slippery slope. A slow methodical chipping away at western society.

Gay 'marriage' does not promote monogamy and never will. Almost every one I have known of operates as an 'open' marriage where one runs around and the the other is too stuck on the dominate personality to object. The exceptions were all 'sugar daddy/boy toy' arrangements to one degree or another.

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If you even reach the point where you're imagining that there is a reason homosexuals should *want* Marriage at all, you've already lost touch completely with the ancient meaning and purpose of the institution.

"Gay marriage" is only even coherent as an idea to talk about when you're talking about the distinctly Modern, strictly materialist, State-managed institution of legally created domestic partnerships. This government institution only overlaps with what anybody on Earth before the 20th century would understand "Marriage" to mean as a matter of convenience; the government institution was created to legally acknowledge the more ancient one, but at some point it functionally usurped it entirely.

Asking "what's wrong with same-sex marriage?" when you're talking strictly about the modern government institution is begging the question. Even thinking that homosexuality, whether the homosexuality itself is publicly approved of or not, could possibly have anything to do with the institution of Marriage is a symptom of a much deeper disconnect between our modern society and the understanding of Marriage that has been a healthy pillar of societies around the world for thousands of years.

It's not that gay marriage is "wrong", it's that when your society's relationship with Marriage is right, having a gay version of it is just a non-sequitur. Some people think resisting gay "marriage" is a step in the right direction to get us back on track here, yes. I'm not sure that they're right, but their sense that something is off here is at least a good sign.

Marriage is a contract between a man and a woman to team up to start a family.

Fags can't give birth, so it makes no sense.
A child needs a mom and a dad.

>inb4 adoption
You shouldn't rely on families to fail and human trafficking is bad ya'll.