Would South America be any different if it was all Spanish?

Would South America be any different if it was all Spanish?

I just prefer to avoid thinking what a spanish brazil could have been

same craphole but i think it will be even worse

more panchitos to Spain, no pls

this is south america, not that

South America starts at Rio Grande el mano

Brazil would have been divided into a bunch of viceroyalties and would probably be some 5 countries

Should have been finnish

I think they'd hate each other even more

Perú will try their best!

kys

mano negro ilegal

Brazil would be multiple countries
Likely a lot more wars

northern Brazil would be like Venezuela and Colombia

southern Brazil would be as it is, but the mixed race people would be like Paraguayans instead of being part black

You're already becoming our colony, no need to be ashamed of.

Since dumb spaniards can't seem to keep their dicks inside their pants, everyone agrees that Brazil would not have kept its unity and fragmented

also, it would be divided in 3 to 5 countries, and they would have gone to war against each other in the XIX century, civil wars too.

Not only that, but the entire south america would be more active when it comes to warring and Argentina would likely be the big shot in the region

fucking kys

everything above Colombia is North America

This is interesting, why did Spanish New World colonies split up but Portuguese stayed pretty much intact?

No one knows for certain and people came up with various explanations
Might have been a "us vs them" mentality that kept the portuguese speaking states united

The other explanation is that people liked D. Pedro I for declaring their independence and that respect extended towards his young son, which kept the country intact during regency.

Afterwards D. Pedro II was actually a decent ruler so there was no major discontent

Makes sense, you saw yourselves as a kind of a minority and banded together while the Spanish felt in control and tried to take the most they could for themselves.

Spaniards wanted their colonizes to isolated from each other so they would remain dependent on them. this had an effect where selfish oligarchies wanted their own piece of the pie instead having a unified Spanish America. At least that's what I picked up on here.

The Spanish divided their colonies into like four autonomously administrated viceroyalties from the start. Brazil was centralized into a single colony.

But those viceroyalties were equally sized with nowadays Brazil

The interesting thing is that Brazil was (and kinda is) sparsely populated in the non-coastal regions, distances are long and no railroad system was effectively built, there was nothing stopping balkanization yet it didn't happen

We got a Monarchy of our own. No one wanted indpendence from Portugal at that time. The only thing that causes it was the freemasons and liberals at Porto that wanted to to withdraw our condition of autonomous Kingdom united with Portugal so that we return to be only a Portuguese territory. The Brazilian elite became irritated and convinced the Prince Regent to declare Independence and found our monarchy.
If the liberals of Porto were a little less stubborn, perhaps we would be united today with Portugal or at least something like Canada and UK.

We are fucked up

Dom João VI, king of Portugal, ran from Napoleon and went to Rio de Janeiro in 1808. There, he had to recreate all the institutions Portugal had to let the government to function.

But he didn't desotry those institutions when he went back; his son, Dom Pedro, used them after independence to make Brazil its own full-fledged nation.

there would be more countries
just to get you an idea, Africa actually has 50+ of them

you forgot to mention the ending
thanks to the Royal Crown influence, many rebellions were quenched with iron hand. Brazilian republic still maintained the same level of authority
notice how Mexico is also another big federal country. Maximilian I ruled it for a while

The potential unification of the Platine Basin under a single country might have created a superpower to rival the United States.

many reasons

-geography (cities on different oceans, Buenos Aires South Atlantic, Colombia and Venezuela in the Caribbean, the rest in the pacific etc), plus natural limits like the Andes or the Panama strait, or the Atacama desert
-That led to the Spaniash creating different viceroyalties
-Older Institutions than in Portuguese America, as in, since the 1500s there were Universities, supreme courts of Justice, distributed around Spanish America. Ecuador belonged to the viceroyalty of Peru, and later Granada (Colombia), but its territory is pretty much that of the Audiencia de Quito (another administrative unit), like the Supreme court for people who lived in that region.
Both Chile and Venezuela were also Capitanías Generales, special administrative units.
-People don't want to lose the independence they once had.
You had to consider that the king of Spain lived on the other side of the atlantic, and had very soft power on the Americas, that could easily be ignored.
For a Paraguayan, having to obey the people of Buenos Aires was a much greater threat to their independence than having to obey the king of Spain on the other side of the planet.

-The Royal family of Portugal moved to Brazil during the Napoleonic wars, with a lot of burocrats. In Brazil most cities were coastal cities, in the same ocean, and most communications were by sea. (going from Buenos Aires to Lima was much harder than going from Rio to Bahia)
-Most Brazilians in the early 1800s were black slaves, they were less attached to their land, and had less local identity than most people in Spanish America.