Guys I really tried to give religion and more specifically Christianity a chance for years now but I can't actually do it. It's just too fucking retarded for me.
Anyone else feel this way?
ITT: religion is silly
>inb4 hueheue fedora memes because that's the only response I have
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you should do what i did start summoning demons you can get money and shit its dank jesus wont give you shit so fuck that jew nigger faggot
Emrace Satan!
like technology? don't like claims which by their definition are unprovable? still want an ideal world and afterlife to strive for? try transhumanism.
Do you have an actual reason for finding Christianity "fucking retarded" that you would like to share, or are you just a troll fedora?
She's cute. I hope she didn't catch zika.
Just bow down to the Flying Spaghetti Monster and accept him into your heart as your Lord and Savior, user.
dubs o' partial truth. abandon all religion except for one God of Goodness, and use the blessing that is life to make humans more like angels (transhumanism).
>He's never read the bible
how do i into orthodoxy? what do i read?
Why did you even give religion a chance to begin with? Because trolls on Sup Forums called you a fedorafag? If so, you should kill yourself.
I understand bro.
Sup Forums needs to drop this whole holier than thou retarded shit and maybe it will become credible.
I've read the bible and I've been to church every sunday (to 7 different churches of 4 different denominations) for three years
No, it's because I thought atheism was a problem for the West. Low fertility rates, the threat of Islam, that atheism is basically equal with liberalism and degeneracy etc.
i was an intern for a famous healing pastor
sick people, like truly fucked up, were ignored while people with innocuous maladies were prayed over and "healed", it was a scam. a well intentioned scam but a scam nonetheless
Yeah me too. I don't think most Christians believe in it either. Things were better before we got jewed into these retarded Jew religions the Jews use to divide and kill white people--Christjew arabjew jewjew. We used to love nature and fucking and small scale war over fun things-and didn't take religion seriously. Greek myths was more fun and less serious. The odyssey is superior to the bible. It's not true either but at least it's more fun and embraces life. The most successful artists have the same attitude of irreverence to the Jew God, such as Shakespeare or Ezra Pound
>He tried to follow a contradictory book word for word
>He didn't use it as a guiding tool to better his life
No wonder atheists are fucking retarded. Literally people that can't follow common sense and need a step by step guide to safely cross the road when they're in their 30s.
So many not arguments.
I tried to follow it word by word?
I didn't learn anything good out of it?
Jeewiz, thanks for making all these assumptions, user.
Molyneux is a Jew too. Fuck all of you nigger is my argument.
Hahaha nice meme, but I wasn't making an argument.
also, you're using an atheist in that
>I really tried to give religion a chance
Just why?
It's like giving flu a chance...
Most religious people feel that way.
`Christianity is stuffed with miracles, contradictions and absurdities, was spawned in the fevered imaginations of the Orientals and then spread to our Europe, where some fanatics espoused it, some intriguers pretended to be convinced by it and some imbeciles actually believed it’.
Religion is over. It's time to find something new to keep us together. This rampant individualism is going to be the end of us otherwise.
LOLOLOLOL NOT AN ARGUMENT AM I RIGHT GUYS. I CAN DISMISS ANYTHING ANYONE SAYS IF IT DOESNT MEET MY ARBITRARY REQUIREMENTS OF IT BEING AN ARGUMENT.
Congrats you're correct, I wasn't trying to make an argument. You dense fucking dipshit.
France's lack of Christianity made it perfect for the islamic invasion.
Enjoy that Arab/Nigger cock there Maxim.
>coming from Germany
Or maybe it was the relatively lax immigration policy combined with a generous welfare system that enabled unintelligent people to live and survive in a developed country. If anything the Christian belief of spreading your arsecheeks for your fellow man is more accepting of immigrants than, say, a Randian atheist who believes in pursuing one's own best interests.
Just listen to some Joseph Campbell lectures desu. Only then you will truly begin to interpret the mythologies correctly.
why dont you try Islam
Islam is much, much worse than Christianity. Its theology is retarded and it basically glorifies Arabs.
I would only consider it if I got with a Persian qt
Religion belongs in the past
Yup. I was thinking of churching it up not because of belief but because of some of the good morals, community and slim chance I'd meet a woman.
But meh never went. I don't really care about much anymore, so I axed the idea.
lol
Why would you go from retard to extra retard?
So you are not here to actually discuss your beliefs or why you believe them. Rather just say "lulz Christianity is retarded amiright." Kill yourself.
Oh by the way, Molyneux, an Atheist, would also request that you kill yourself for making Atheists look so fucking worthless.
Just don't do it? As long as you aren't a lefty retard, I don't care.
We're here to talk and discuss our feelings, user. Why does this make you so mad?
Id like to add on, that I believe the bible stories were meant to help people understand the lessons to lead a healthy moral life. if that makes any sense.
I understand the concept is forever old, but for the time I believe it was a good system given the intelligence of humans back then.
Taking the stories literally is fucking dumb, but that's just me.
Then again, I didn't really read the bible so I could be the retard.
The only reason islam is allowed is because religions are allowed. As long as we will consider christianism acceptable there will be no reason to ban other religions.
oh the good ol' monomyth
most religion is silly in terms of the mythology of magic men and space battles and all that shit, but under neath it all, theres a basic philosophy thats good. Not the dogmatic shit, but the way of conducting yourself.
I think Christianity did some good because it made people less sociopathic. Most "crhistians" here are just DEUS VAULT LARPers anyway
what is hard about going to a church to socialise on a friday
Echo chambers help no one. But if you just want to enjoy your little Atheist "safe space" then be my guest.
That's kinda how I feel about it as I described above. But you did a better job.
Plus I'd add that the bible has been edited a bunch over time. I'd like to read it in its original form, it could be an interesting read. Could be more to the whole faith than we know.
Not sure if Jesus as a kid was in any of it, would be interesting to see how he was during puberty / teenage years to see if he was a little shit like we were at the time.
If you want a serious conversation about this, I doubt here is the place. Feel free to e-mail me if you want a more serious discussion: [email protected]
>I go to church every week and mostly only associate with Christians
Would you literally fuck off
I fell for the christian girl at church meme desu, decided to try it out and went to a church last sunday and after 20 minutes of bible shit the congregation went on to talk about refugees and how we should do more to help these "poor families seeking escape from a war"
Fuck that cuck shit never again.
Place was full of fats and a few roasties too.
Evangelical churches are the only ones with decent girls, to be honest. Don't even bother with the Catholic Church, I feel like a baby there and I'm 18. Everyone there is three times my age.
4 times, I mean
Going to church and being surrounded by Christians only is as much of an echo chamber. Your views will never get challenged and if you stray from their "morals" you'll be ostracized.
Although I don't get militant atheism myself. It's turning into a sort of religion too.
I'll send you a mail later
Yeah all the hocus-pocus magic shit always put me off to religion. Just sounds ridiculous but you can't deny that the basic values it teaches are good ones for most societies to follow. Some people need the idea of a god and consequences in the afterlife to act like decent human beings.
My current religious views are best described as "I want to believe".
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What ever you do, don't become christian because of any other reason than sheer belief. That's gold digging and it's degenerate.
Being culturally christian is better if you simply cannot believe but are interested.
I too, am an edgy Sup Forums fag
>Although I don't get militant atheism myself. It's turning into a sort of religion too.
atheism has always been brimming with those counterproductive contrarian masturbators. sadly, fedoras aren't just memes
This is why you fucks had those famines.
Not an argument. Atheism leads to degeneracy, but at least it's not retarded like Christianity and Islam.
I'll check up later, then. Ciao.
atheism does not lead to degeneracy. there is no evidence that any religion has ever made a people function better than they do as non-religious.
>there is no evidence that any religion has ever made a people function better than they do as non-religious
See: China
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I'm like you belgianbro, I just can't do it. I'd love to simply BELIEVE, really get persuaded again that there is a dude up in the sky who sent us his son Jesus, as I did when I was a kid. Now I'm a pagan but strong beliefs aren't there either, but at least it's a low-fi sort of religion that doesn't demand much constant sacrifice.
here's the big secret most know but won't say since it kind of defeats the purpose by revealing the masquerade
no mentally healthy adult with an IQ over 100 actually believes in anything supernatural
people with intact problem solving abilities simply see that religion is a good way to keep a community together and enforce social standards so raise their children with it
so basically just smile and go along with it and bam, you're living the religious life you want
>there is no evidence that any religion has ever made a people function better than they do as non-religious.
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Try Unitarian Universalist churches Belguim bro. There's a lot of libs, but it is very satisfying to be able to honestly question and seek answers to theological questions without someone forcing dogma down your throat.
I'm personally rocking a mix of Judaism/Evangelical/Humanism, feels gud to not be in cognitive dissonance anymore desu.
Not quite true bra
Reglion was a tool for older cilivizations to prevent diffrent social problems.
Such as trying to make people to stop commiting adultry ,or stealing from each other.
Plus it allowed for wealth and land to be passed down towards your children and not to a bastard.
But it's not God will that said such thing , is cultural evolution that made religion what it is.
If there was a social problem that was created by human behaviour (animal/instictual behaviour) religion came with a solution (stop doing that God said no)
Take islam , don't consume alchool , if we look at alchool it does cause problems , Drunks to tend to fight more , rape more , and it's actually a depressive. Then came some faggot who was againts cool things like achool and said "STOP DRINKING YOU FAGGOTS YOU ARE GOING TO HELL"
And no religion doesn't makes the world better , but it sure tries to fix social problems... sometimes is good but it doesn't fix the natural order of things.
In the most religios parts of the world people still cheat. steal and lie , people still do those things they consider sins.
Also religion was tend later used by kings to consolidate power , so that peasants would not defy him.
Religion/belief was a good thing for ancient man, but also a bad thing...for most people it gave them hope, when there was non and made try hard to work or be better , atleast try.
But it was also a bad thing , through religion most empires grew , most people were send to their deaths and most attrocies were made in the name of their GODs... because really how can you make 100.000 men go kill another 100.000 with the promise of money? most of them may die... what if they believe reward in hevean.
Atheism + weakness = degeneracy
Redpill + weakness = dispair
Freedom + weakness = degeneracy too
Some people can't handle the weight of the knowledge, right/wrong. Thats want the Bible even says with Adam/Eve eating from the Knowledge tree , the sin of man is knowledge.
>I'm too autistic to comprehend metaphors and symbolism
Need advice on religion too
Debating marriage
This
Religion is mostly metaphors
We can see hell on earth approaching
>bawww, they're all metaphors, none of the supernatural stuff happened you idiot, you just don't understand because it's 2deep4u
Don't mind my stramawn *puts on a fedora*. It's just hard to tell which of the bullshit is supposedly real work of god and which is just metaphors and symbolism. *seathes katana*
Nothing personel, kid
I feel the same as you OP.
I read the bible for cultural purpose buth after 5 years in STEM, dozens of scientfic books about biology and astronomy, after reading Kant and Descartes, I just can't.
The real problem I think is not really atheism or agnosticism, the problem is we lost our social glue.
Germany politics is structured on pastors families and still you are the most cucked when it comes to see muslims for what they are.
>really, really, really like the ideas of christianity
>find it silly to follow the bible
>consider jesus a wonderful spiritual teacher
>think it's kinda outdated to follow christianity as it was 21 centuries ago
>think to myself there's no way people haven't moved on
>decide to give religion a try
>everyone who represents the institution in any way (from devoted church-goers to priests) looks at me like I raped their entire family whenever I try to tell them I have a more modern view of christianity
>get called a "cultural christian" with so much venom you'd think I said Vishnu can beat up Jesus any day
>everyone tells me to gtfo and follow some sect or seventh day adventists or whatever
And that is when I totally gave the fuck up.
Forget about it OP. Keep your religion and faith to yourself. Say you're agnostic if you like. Buy a cross for your home. Educate yourself on religion. Hell, go visit a church but DO NOT talk to anybody.
Then you'll learn to appreciate and understand it.
Oh, also, don't be afraid of developing your own beliefs. Hey, I mean, who the fuck expects you to believe in the nun who got pregnant and said it was from god himself and then Jesus was totally divine and shit? She was a whore who did it with some traveller and Jesus was a brilliant man who set the foundations of modern civilization.
Notice how we got docents of Anti-Christianity thread in the last two days.
Really make me think...
Probably a victim of relative truth.
But then again, if you want to go to hell, God will accommodate you.
it doesn't bother me really. it´s just a way of living and if you want to follow it and it helps you be a better person, go for it.
religious institutions should be taxed though.
GOod thinking Komrade
>Emrace Satan!
Satan only exists in the bible. If you reject the latest gods (the three Abrahamic montheisms) then Satan goes bye-bye too
ye olde stunrod.
anyone who can kill a dog like that can not be human.
>Islam is much, much worse than Christianity. Its theology is retarded and it basically glorifies Arabs.
After the early Israellites slaughter the entire Canaan Valley, they calmed down a bit. Same happened with Christians after the Crusades and inquisitions and witch burnings. Now the Mohamedans are in their bloodthirsty stage, but the fact that their religion is their sharia government has a kind of staying power that will make them an increasing threat to free men for thousands of years to come.
It's time to reject all Middle East religions as dangerous nonsense.
Eh, not everyome here is religious. I'm not. As long as you don't get to fedora-y about it people don't seem to mind. Sup Forums isn't the right place to have babby's first existential crisis.
>why dont you try Islam
Because as religion goes, it's the worst made-up nonsense and the most violent.
dont worry no one on pol is actually religious they just pretend to be to make it seem like they have "muh morals" & "muh tradition"
This based man has some nice arguments to you:
I mean this: youtube.com
>2016
>thinking the god is real
reminder white women are garbage
Christianity is a feel good fast food religion.
>I dont understand the universe there must be a creator. This book proves it! I can hear god speak to me! I can feel his presence
That's probably a tulpa but I cant prove it kek
>I'm gonna believe in this book because I was brainwashed to fear hell as an impressionable child! It's so easy to believe!
Fast food religion btfo
All religion is retarded though
sage
OP, you're obviously smart enough to realize religion is bullshit. Stop fooling yourself and accept it.
This user gets it. If you feel like you need a purpose in life, seriously look into Transhumanism.
>Now the Mohamedans are in there bloodthirsty stage
>What are the Arab conquests
>guys I lack common sense
Could have just said you're belgian
They will always be like that.
Jesus was a first century hippie, Mahomet was a pedophile warlord.
You just can't make something decent out of it, it is rottent to the core.
God is real, he created the world you live in, this place really turned into Reddit. I can't wait for this election to be over
Religious people can cope with certain negative emotions better, (especially loss) and are slightly happier on average
But shes really really quite good looking. Are they just lashing out?
Deny those Arab religions! Tell the Jews to fuck off!
Religion is useful to keep stupid people preoccupied.
In the good case it teaches them not to steal and murder.
In the bad case it teaches them to run over french cucks with a truck.
..on a second thought it's all good.
try to not overthink some things OP
then you will love christianity
Because they are self-delusional. And I'm not saying that to be edgy, ignorance is bliss most of the time.