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Why are the Chinese women with Wh*te men so hideous but the White girls with Chinese are so attractive??
that guy looks hideous whats wrong with that thot
>that song
"shing shing shing shing shing shing shing"
Jesus, Mandarin is such a horrible sounding language. That song genuinely made me feel physical discomfort in my ears because of all the "shh" sounds.
what are your thoughts on Emperor Xi?
really makes you think
I am back from traveling to other universities
Truly the greatest since Deng
Well if you don't like it, don't listen to it.
He's got a long term vision, and wants to make development more balanced. Those are positives.
>why doesn't China trust the West?
I can't speak for all countries, but in the US, Chinese men are much more likely to have a higher income than white men. For many attractive white women, that's an opportunity for a cozy life.
Chinese women that go for white guys are usually losers or desperate.
Thinking about learning Chinese for the job opportunities, is it really worth it?
My native language is German, I'm fluent in English and I know basic Japanese.
Do you think learning Chinese and Japanese at the same time is counterproductive?
Does China even have to do anything to become the next superpower?
The rest of the world is literally killing itself. Italy joined in today.
What did Italy do?
>italy joined
this is how you lose
For a German, probably.
China and Germany do $500 billion in trade each year. You can definitely find a great job through that.
Likewise, Chinese love German products. If you can sell those expensive yet worthless German products to Chinese, you’ll be golden.
Chinese and Japanese are not similar languages. No worries.
Knowing written Chinese also will help with written Kanji as expected.
I am enjoying my Chinese studies and visiting once in awhile. Granted, that’s mainly because I am Japanese-American and do not get the whole weeb thing.
Hope that helps
Populismo
I don't follow Italian politics. Give me the meme version of why it's bad for Italy.
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Financial markets are likely to take these figures negatively, LC Macro Advisers' Lorenzo Codogno says in a note, adding:
If it is a hung parliament, it will be extremely difficult for a narrow mainstream coalition to have the numbers to govern
Bottom line: Italy is far from having sorted its long-standing problems, and now it will have new ones
Will Italy turn to shit like Spain?
the last time the pastas fell for a populist they took over the world, kind of scared 2bh
It already is
GDP per capita lower today than in 1998. 20 years ago
>China, emphasizing quality growth and deemphasizing specific targets, sets 2018 GDP target at “around 6.5” in contrast to “about 6.5%, but preferably higher” in 2017.
what makes it """quality"""?
me on the right
youtube.com
very nice
Traditional Chinese music is very kino
youtube.com
Less industrial growth = less pollution
Going to ruin Macau and Hong Kong. Going to waste tens of thousands of Chinese soldiers lives taking over Taiwan and ruining China’s international reputation
>Why are the Chinese women with Wh*te men so hideous
Ummm but they’re not sweaty
ft.com
>China Growth Still Barreling Along
Wtf collapse imminent!
>waste
Xi could sacrifice a million Chinese soldiers and it would still be worth it for Taiwan.
I personally hope the status quo remains, but the more that Tsai pushes for independence the more that China will be forced to play its strong hand.
North Korea for Taiwan.
seems like propaganda to rename shrinking industrial growth as "quality growth"
lol, thinking a $5 whore is "gorgeous".
Also, stop posting pictures of your Mom - she is absolute shit tier.
Korean
>Xi could sacrifice a million Chinese soldiers and it would still be worth it for Taiwan.
Taiwan would probably be an incinerated crater with nothing of value left at that point. Putting aside the logistical impossibility of getting any significant Chinese military force across the Taiwan Straits.
Or it could actually be shifting away from sheer numbers and industrial production to innovation and services...
>Or it could actually be shifting away from sheer numbers and industrial production to innovation and services
That's not how commies operate. Their emphasis is on filling state production quotas no matter how silly and unrealistic they are.
What do most normal people in taiwan think about Tsai's party?
>Going to ruin Macau and Hong Kong.
How? Their economies are still growing just fine.
>Going to waste tens of thousands of Chinese soldiers lives taking over Taiwan and ruining China’s international reputation
Not likely, unless Taiwan actually goes to the extreme.
I actually saw Gordon Chang last week at a conference. Kinda wanted to ask him if he still believed China would collapse.
>Their emphasis is on filling state production quotas no matter how silly and unrealistic they are.
But Xi has been saying the opposite of that. No more emphasis on quotas, emphasis on innovation in the economy, free trade, globalization.
His rhetoric is more similar to a pre-Trump free trade Republican than a gommie.
>I actually saw Gordon Chang last week at a conference. Kinda wanted to ask him if he still believed China would collapse.
>If even emphatically "garbage in, garbage out" secret police social science had to concede approaching disaster, the bemused but not stupid men at the top could begin to consider what happens when a state uses more than a quarter of its production for military purposes, while collectivized agriculture wastes another 10-15%. As his increasingly gloomy speeches from the mid-1970s onward proved, Andropov knew the consequences. So did Ronald Reagan.
>Nonetheless, many influential Americans not only misgauged the extent of Moscow's vulnerability but were also unable to accept the possibility of US-assisted Soviet economic implosion. They even reported the system's buoyancy. The Soviet economy was making "great material progress", the ineffable John Kenneth Galbraith wrote in 1984, citing the cheery faces on the streets of Moscow. All this was made possible because Soviet methods, unlike Western ones, made full use of manpower. "Those in the US who think the Soviet Union is on the verge of economic and social collapse, ready with one small push to go over the brink," snorted Arthur Schlesinger, "are only kidding themselves." As in the 1950s, it remained difficult for some otherwise well-informed people to believe that collectivism made no practical sense.
>The price of maintaining great power standing on the resources of an irrational economy increasingly drove the USSR into the role of a pirate state. In 1970, it was believed to be roughly 15 years behind the US in electronics technology. By 1981, the gap was supposedly narrowing--NSC analyses put Moscow at just 3-4 years behind the US, maybe ten, thought the Defense Department. In any event, the US lead was grievous for Moscow. Marshal Nikolai Ogarkov continued to fret over the lack of advanced Soviet technology. His system could be remarkably good at conceptualization as well as applying laboratory or pilot program innovations, but it often failed in scaling up. One among many examples was stealth technology, conceived in the early '60s by Pytor Ufimstev, chief scientist at the Moscow Institute of Radio Engineering, but put to actual use by Lockheed for the B-1 stealth bomber using a Cray supercomputer.
>An estimated 100,000 people were working in the USSR just to translate stolen documents. Access to Western technology was vital for the regime. There was no reason not to cut off this technology access, nor to cut off Moscow's lines of credit. NSC decisions made explicit that the garotte would be twisted while "making Moscow come to terms with" their economic shortcomings.
Sounds a lot like China, don't it?
>how? Their economies are still growing fine
They won’t if Xi takes direct control of Hong Kong’s government and makes it a corrupt shithole like shenzhen
>An estimated 100,000 people were working in the USSR just to translate stolen documents.
Where on Earth do cunts like the USSR or Chaina find so many people who speak reliably good English? Even today, people with reliably good English are few and far between in Russia, and I can't imagine just how much worse it was back then. Same with Chinese people, their English is practically non-existent, except for Hong Kongers and people who studied abroad (which isn't that big a segment of the population).
the young love DPP. when the old hags die off, KMT is doomed
The KGB was a huge organization, it had 1 million members at its peak and had loads of funding.
>when the old hags die off, KMT is doomed
We'll be fine
>Nonetheless, many influential Americans not only misgauged the extent of Moscow's vulnerability but were also unable to accept the possibility of US-assisted Soviet economic implosion. They even reported the system's buoyancy. The Soviet economy was making "great material progress", the ineffable John Kenneth Galbraith wrote in 1984, citing the cheery faces on the streets of Moscow. All this was made possible because Soviet methods, unlike Western ones, made full use of manpower. "Those in the US who think the Soviet Union is on the verge of economic and social collapse, ready with one small push to go over the brink," snorted Arthur Schlesinger, "are only kidding themselves." As in the 1950s, it remained difficult for some otherwise well-informed people to believe that collectivism made no practical sense.
This above all else. It sounds just like the China Stronk retards today who never stop to consider the huge weaknesses in an authoritarian, one-party state.
Nah, not really. That sounds nothing like China. China of today is nothing like Brezhnev era Soviet Union. There's no stagnation, only really impressive growth. 7% annual growth is something Moscow could never dream of except in the Stalin days. And collectivism is phased out in China at this point. China actually has technology that can compete with America (not better, but competitive). And China doesn't spend nearly as much on military as the USSR, compare China's 2% to the Soviet Union's 15%.
I'd bet my bottom dollar, no collapse any time soon.
Shenzhen has had tremendous growth, and its GDP just exceeded Hong Kong the other day for the first time. It's also China's capital of its burgeoning high tech industry. Doing pretty well for a corrupt shithole...
And HK is going to retain its legal and economic system for the foreseeable future. There's no reason to completely integrate it after 2047, as it would upset the economy and slow growth, and growth and money is the name of the game.
You really don't think that a country with 1.4 billion people, millions of which have gone abroad for studies in the West and Japan, cannot muster up several thousand people with advance English skills to translate documents?
It doesn't matter what proportion of the total population they are, there are millions of Chinese with competent enough Eglish to do that job. If you think otherwise, then you are just fooling yourself into believing all Chinese are illiterate coolies that hammer in nails on a railroad.
What do you feel like in Canada as a chinese person?
What do you feel about white people?
But the Soviet economy was objectively stagnating by the 70s, regardless of any subjective analysis regarding manpower efficiency or public mood.
Chink economy, on the other hand, is objectively growing at more than double the rate of any western cunt (and that's without taking any recessions into account). I just don't see how the two are comparable.
>And collectivism is phased out in China at this point
>China actually has technology that can compete with America
All possibility of rational discussion ended here.
The collective economy of the Mao days is over. No more communes backyard steel mills. Most of the economy is privatized except for the SOE's, which are also being forced to endure market strains.
And China's tech sector is producing companies that can and do compete with Apple and Samsung. The country is implementing technology into all the sectors, even agriculture.
They're even designing their own commercial airplanes.
In terms of military tech, they are creating their own aircraft carriers and have a military that is second in spending only to the US. It's not at America's level but it's growing more and more, even surpassing Russia in some fields.
Open your eyes, China is not in 1976 anymore. You can't just look at all the progress it's made and say "fake news, it's not real."
I agree. It's still a mostly planned economy where the CCP sets quotas and micromanages everything. There's no real free market in China.
Example of this are China's infamous ghost cities. These things are never really intended for anyone to live in, but the party sets a quota for a certain amount of construction projects each year regardless of whether they're needed or not. The main practical purpose of them is to employ and preoccupy disenfranchised young men that could potentially stir up a political revolution (idle hands are the devil's workshop as you all know).
Chinese investment in Africa is same, it's more of a desperation move to provide some form of employment for their enormous population.
>change my location to Taipei on tinder to see what kinda interest I’d get
>tinder map literally calls it “China, Taiwan province”
yet it has its own government, military, culture, etc, etc
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>It's still a mostly planned economy where the CCP sets quotas and micromanages everything. There's no real free market in China.
Nigga what
Private sector is at least 60%
Rightfully so
And yet it has no seat at the UN, and the UN recognizes themas a province of China.
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
And "its own culture" is Chinese through and through, complete with Confucian values, patriarchy, face, and Fujian dialect.
>And "its own culture" is Chinese through and through, complete with Confucian values, patriarchy, face, and Fujian dialect.
It's more Chinese than China itself where all traditional culture was erased a long time ago and cities today are an oasis of soulless gray commie cinderblocks.
>It's more Chinese than China itself where all traditional culture was erased a long time ago and cities today are an oasis of soulless gray commie cinderblocks.
Haha, good one.
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kill all wh*Tes.
I just bought a new house in West Van (Altamont). Thinking of buying a large unit in The Butterfly as well.
Indeed, museums are all that remains of China's culture on the mainland and they wouldn't even have that except for a few heroic people like Zhou Enlai who worked to protect old buildings and artworks from being torched by the Red Guards.
The official line about ghost cities is that it is infrastructure for future urbanization. Construction is cheap enough that you can have a city framed out and mothballed for years before you get around to populating it. Rural people want to move into cities for the rich opportunities, but authorities don't want more hyper-dense hellholes like Hong Kong. Ghost cities have decent planning for transportation/zoning/infrastructure that a healthy city needs, without the headache of modifying an existing design. This is all done with the assumption that rural people will inevitably move to cities, so if that changes then all calculations go out the window.
That doesn't answer my question...
Do I really need to go on a google search, download picture of old buildings to prove you wrong? Or go into my old photos?
I reckon it's not worth the effort.
And museums are perfectly legitimate way of preserving culture in safety.
>The main practical purpose of them is to employ and preoccupy disenfranchised young men that could potentially stir up a political revolution (idle hands are the devil's workshop as you all know)
This was a lesson learned apparently from the Tiananmen protests, the party believes youth unemployment was one of the reasons for them and they need to do something to prevent a recurrence of it.
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>every China thread
>this one CCP propaganda spammer with the pics of old vases
I like to show off me photos. They're appropriate for a China/foot themed thread.
And also, not an argument.
If you like China so much, then why don't you move back to your motherland, Dwayne Chow.
>If you like the sea why don't you live on the seafloor
>If you like the moon why don't you live on the moon
nice argument
Found another chankoro.
You don't even know what "chankoro" (Slave-of-manchus) means and thinks it's an insult in modern day with Manchus almost genocided
You just saw it in one of the Sup Forums pastas didn't you? Idiots unironically use that word as they imagine whoever's reading it getting BTFO, in reality it only shows your ignorance.
>the chankoro is angry now
Only pointing out that the word that nips tell you is an insult actually means nothing
But I don't expect a dumb american to comprehend that
if it means nothing then you wouldn't try so hard to convince me that it means nothing. the word obviously hurts your feelings.
stay mad and in denial, chankoro.
>"nips"
ah, so you're a hypocritical chankoro
Obviously you didn't read my previous post and there's no point wasting further time arguing with a retard who can't even read.
stay mad, chankoro
that's a bad analogy man
is this pic accurate?
big, if true...
Anyone recommend any Chinese pornstars that work in the American porn industry?
Besides Alina Li and Evelyn Lin of course.
Still
The "if you like X why don't you go live in X" argument is stupid
Liking a place doesn't mean one has to give up social/career connections in their existing location move to that place
Are you a brainlet
I don't know shit about asian history/culture and don't care for it but this is common knowledge
The Japanese were pretty much Chinaboos until a few centuries ago when China started to stagnate and western values got in
Shut the fuck up and show some respect you dumb faggot.
Naw, I think it's a valid question. Unless something is blocking you from being able to go, if you prefer another place, are you trying to end up there or at least spend a significant amount of time there? If not, then why not.
>86442760
I don't recall giving you a permission slip to reply to me nor has it been signed by your parents
for one it's very difficult to move to china unless you want to teach english for pennies forever
Daily reminder that the PRC is a piece of steaming hot SHIT, the brainchild of a fat peasant who wasn’t even able to wash his cock and had sex with underage boys.
Daily reminder that your mother is a chicken
There are practical things from money/jobs to visas
Moving to another country is not something simple as hopping on a plane
>a fat peasant who wasn’t even able to wash his cock and had sex with underage boys.
hot desu
but im gonna need some citations on the underage boys part, never seen that on my research on mao even from hardline anti-commie sources
Wording this.
>86443130
I think it's high time we set up a parent teacher conference about your autism
hi,how are you doing?
Peru, help me, the urge to return to bangkok grows stronger with each passing day, I must fight the urge peru, please guide me