I used to think them ignoring international law and taking over Palestine was a mistake. But... then I realized that not a single Islamic culture or even sect does anything but shame and harm its gays. Fuck that.
I used to complain about pinkwashing but, after what I've been seeing from the Islamic world, they can pinkwash all they like. Because, at least in Israel, gay people can be treated a lot better.
Meanwhile, in the US — Mormonism is the fastest-spreading religion. It's anti-gay. Half of the Supreme Court is Catholics. They're anti-gay.
Sorry, but I'm not buying into the narrative. When, and if, Catholics, Mormons, and Islam stop being anti-gay asshats then talk to me.
>I used to think them ignoring international law and taking over Palestine was a mistake. But... then I realized that not a single Islamic culture or even sect does anything but shame and harm its gays. Fuck that. >I used to complain about pinkwashing but, after what I've been seeing from the Islamic world, they can pinkwash all they like. Because, at least in Israel, gay people can be treated a lot better. >Meanwhile, in the US — Mormonism is the fastest-spreading religion. It's anti-gay. Half of the Supreme Court is Catholics. They're anti-gay. >Sorry, but I'm not buying into the narrative. When, and if, Catholics, Mormons, and Islam stop being anti-gay asshats then talk to me.
this is some serious autism
Levi Bennett
Then fuck off you unironical faggot
Carson Hughes
SEEK MENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST. Israel doesn't want to take over land and pay out welfare to poor people. Palestine has been getting headfaked for over 50 years top kek
SAGE
Ian Rivera
Go count your dirty shekels good goyim. Jews are cancer.
Nicholas Perry
People who like Israel on Sup Forums don't like them because they're supposedly pro-gay. We like their kebab-removal skills.
Josiah Davis
kys faggot
Jonathan Richardson
>gay people can be treated a lot better they can also get stabbed by Orthodox Jews
Brandon Taylor
Jews had no right whatsoever to conquer Palestinian land and massacre peaceful civilians. There are two main terrorist out there, USA and ISRAEL. We need to destroy both eventually.
Alexander Robinson
...
Easton Sanders
>peaceful civilians >Arabs
Aiden Jones
...
Jaxson Young
>t. Tatar mudslime
Carson Cook
I envy the Israelites their nationalism and genuine care for their people by the government.
Blake Wilson
Still that land used to be theirs, and despicable kikes had stolen it. They literally deserve to be gassed.
Samuel Walker
>they can also get stabbed by Orthodox Jews
The girl who was stabbed was straight.
Luke Stewart
I'm pure Ukrainian and Christian. And Kikes had crucified out lord Jesus Christ. They need to die out.
James Sanchez
>le kikes killed Jesus meme
Ukrainian education everyone
Nathaniel Hall
Except because it wasn't conquered and Arabs refused the 2 state solution you fuckhead
Elijah Cook
Nice flag, burger.
gtr5.com >On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.
We let the St. Louis' passengers get fucked by Nazis.
Larger number, too.
Eli Miller
>used to be theirs after they took it from previous Christian inhabitants who took it from Jews who gives a fuck, do you think Arabs give a fuck about you? if they had even a shred of competence they should've destroyed Israel many times given all the aid Soviets gave them incompetence kills
Julian Perry
The videos aren't only about the USS Liberty incident.
Zachary Nelson
Israel created ISIS, stop believing Jewish media. They want to play off Christians against Muslims.
Jack Kelly
Nope, gas them all. Never trust a Jew.
Christian Phillips
>want to play off Christians against Muslims yeah because we were in great relations before Israel was created
Bentley Garcia
Okay. Muslims will actually fucking stone you for homosexuality under sharia law.
Religious Jews, Catholics and Mormons would just like to.
Jaxson Perez
By your logic Americans must be taken over by natives and massacred afterwards. Which is a good thing, by the way.
Anthony Mitchell
>Religious Jews Not Reform
Juan Thomas
"A major new report, published today in the journal The New Atlantis, challenges the leading narratives that the media has pushed regarding sexual orientation and gender identity.
Co-authored by two of the nation’s leading scholars on mental health and sexuality, the 143-page report discusses over 200 peer-reviewed studies in the biological, psychological, and social sciences, painstakingly documenting what scientific research shows and does not show about sexuality and gender.
Its four main findings:
The belief that sexual orientation is an innate, biologically fixed human property—that people are ‘born that way’—is not supported by scientific evidence.
Likewise, the belief that gender identity is an innate, fixed human property independent of biological sex—so that a person might be a ‘man trapped in a woman’s body’ or ‘a woman trapped in a man’s body’—is not supported by scientific evidence.
Only a minority of children who express gender-atypical thoughts or behavior will continue to do so into adolescence or adulthood. There is no evidence that all such children should be encouraged to become transgender, much less subjected to hormone treatments or surgery.
Non-heterosexual and transgender people have higher rates of mental health problems (anxiety, depression, suicide), as well as behavioral and social problems (substance abuse, intimate partner violence), than the general population. Discrimination alone does not account for the entire disparity."
>Okay. Muslims will actually fucking stone you for homosexuality under sharia law. Media told you this? You gullible stinky american.
Landon Wright
>Killing jews also hurts the gays. Life ain't so bad after all.
Zachary Ortiz
this kek
Mason Moore
>Sorry, but I'm not buying into the narrative. When, and if, Catholics, Mormons, and Islam stop being anti-gay asshats then talk to me. >implying naturalist/darwinist atheists and agnostics are immune to homophobia >implying countries without abrahamic religions don't have homophobic cultural normalities
Most of the world is anti-homosexuality. Stop letting gays bluepill you.
Michael James
>muh fairness no such thing (just like Ukraine) might makes right but if we try to be a bit objective in this case, Arabs are extremely incompetent people and Palestinians are niggers of Arab world I can't really bring myself to hate Jews for exploiting a chance to avoid regular pogroms and shit
Eli Richardson
You're disgusting. So you think being racist is cool, right?
Luis Reyes
I'm just realist about how world works, and no I'm not racist are you a girl? you sound like one, no offense
Henry Harris
he's right though, because inbreeds mudslimes have a low IQ and can't think or act by themselves
These are theocratic nations. They are working with a system that interprets sharia law.
For Judaism it's Lev. 20:13.
Reform Jews are pretty much considered secular. Like Orthodox won't accept their conversations as legitimate, nor their rituals for many occasions, and they definitely do not respect their rabbis.
Religious Jews just really can't stone homosexuals because supposedly the Jewish court isn't in function without a proper judge and vigilantism is frowned upon.
Dylan Ross
Good goy.
Daniel Reyes
>a low IQ it directly depends on your upbringing >are you a girl? yes, I am. So what?
Austin Morales
Tits or gtfo
Jaxson Ramirez
>blah blah faggots this, blah blah faggots that who the fuck cares? shut up
Juan Perry
>Reform Jews are pretty much considered secular.
Of course that's what orthodox think. The Christians who won't have sex through a hole in the sheet are "secular", too, right?
A Catholic asshat from Pennsylvania just said that remarried couples should abstain from sex and act like they're brother and sister. I assume Christians who remarried who don't follow that advice are "secular".
Jason Cruz
Tits or gtfo what? Are you trying to harass me in a sexual way?
Jose James
it's just that you sound like a woman, pretending or not and IQ is both genetic and environmental and irregardless of their IQ, their culture is very shitty besides Palestinians were offered many settlements that were quite okay considering balance of forces and they refused all of them
Henry Lopez
>who the fuck cares? shut up people who aren't you
I know it's a shocking realization. For most people it happens in early childhood.
Asher Bailey
To be fair, all Christians are just Jew heretics.
Eitherway, if they can't meaningfully define judaism, don't obey Jewish law, and don't keep Jewish tradition, in what sense are they Jews?
Xavier Bell
They aren't supposed to divide their own land with some bad smelling kikes who came out of nowhere to kill and plunder their folk.
Connor Evans
If you can't defend your land when it gets invaded and you lose it, guess what, you lost it. Personal responsibility is a thing and it applies to everyone.
Jace Rivera
Tits with timestamp or gtfo
Adrian Campbell
>their own land how was it ''their own land''? Palestine never existed as a state, and Israelis actually bought fair share of that land from Arabs at the start stop being so fucking ignorant about a complex conflict also why are you hating Jews, Kolomoyski is the biggest Ukrainian patriot :^)
Jaxon Sanders
>people who aren't you >people >plural christ why are gays so actually-retarded?? nobody cares and you're not alan turing, so shut up and go home
Luke Long
If I lived in America I'd call the police and then you'd feel pretty miserable having fetched up in jail. Fucking white wanker.
Owen Peterson
The Leviticus Mosaic Code is just a ritual cleanliness thing that's been misused as a political weapon against gays, as far as I know.
The translation decisions are also controversial, with a lot of very different meanings coming from those decisions.
Most of it is prohibition against mixing different things. One interpretation of the code is that men shouldn't be invited into their wife's bed by their husband. That's a hell of a lot different than "gay men are bad".
Joseph Evans
>boring butthurt babble
David Reed
t. retarded shitskin beta male under proxy
Parker Bailey
Fuck off, bigot.
Gavin Morales
nice trolling so far Taras does it help you forget hunger
Angel Adams
I'm an expensive Ukrainian woman. Only rich sheikhs allowed to have sex with me.
Dylan Sanders
>guys israel is based because they prevent sandniggers from killing fags sure is nu/pol/ in here
Angel Watson
what, no one listens irl so you come to Sup Forums and shitpost as retardedly as you can about gays and catholics?? the reason why no one listens is because you lack intelligence; just shut up and get out, you're literally the worst kind moron
Jose James
call it what you like
it's a legitimate point
Robert Nguyen
>The Leviticus Mosaic Code is just a ritual cleanliness thing that's been misused as a political weapon against gays, as far as I know.
Let me put this bluntly, in Jewish tradition torah is irrefutable. There is no translation issue between Hebrew; all legitimately written torahs differ by about 3 vavs or "ו" and that is an argument of very odd grammar.
With this being said, Leviticus is irrefutable Jewish law with oral torah interpretation in both the Mishnah and the Gemara. There are times where the text is unusual, or implicit and this is really not one of those times. What you are attempting to call upon is a further elucidation from it which is actually rejected which would be that men literally could not share a bed.
>Most of it is prohibition against mixing different things.
Yes, there are tons of Jewish laws against mixing things. There are also Jewish laws against charging interest, over zealous self defense, putting out fires on shabbos, and whether or not fish can be eaten with milk.
But here is the thing. Orthodox Jews actually have rabbis that do study the texts. They are learned. You are telling the people that know the most about the subject what the subject means.
Easton Parker
no it's not, you're just too much of a full-retard "durr the tumblr says im special cuz i like boys and not girls tee hee" to see beyond your own utter fucking lack of intelligence
see, i'm not some retarded fucking faggot with a craving for kike cock -- i actually give a fuck about gay rights, which is why i keep telling you: shut up, get out
Charles Russell
Montenegro bringin the heat.
Bentley Morris
t. butthurt fedora
Dominic Myers
>Thinks that Muslims being barbaric and hating gays is some Jewish media conspiracy
Lay off the vodka, you dumb hohol.
>Let's gas the kikes >Pls don't be racist >Don't be a bigot >Kikes are smelly and deserve gas, tho
Are you retarded or trolling?
Jaxson Richardson
oh how rare, another shitposting french cuck too scared to go outside -- too scared of bullets and burkinis, huh? enjoy your safespace
Isaac Rodriguez
See: Actual proof being a homo is just a meme.
Logan Sanchez
>Orthodox Jews actually have rabbis that do study the texts. They are learned. You are telling the people that know the most about the subject what the subject means.
Oh please. Translation decisions are responsible for the sodomy nonsense. Don't give me that "trust the people with a vested interest in projecting a specific viewpoint" crap.
You're going to have to prove that political translation machinations aren't responsible, as they are when, for instance, the KJV says "all the men of the city, even the men of Sodom" instead of "all the people of the city" — for homophobic reasons. The NIV went further, even eliminating a reference to women from a scene to further the anti-gay agenda.
>falsely conflates transgenderism with homosexuality
>peddles the utter bullshit that straight men can choose to fall in love with other men and want to lick their assholes
You believe they can, dude? Post some pics in Sup Forums of you licking a dude's butt. Post some pics of you making out with him, holding his hand, and maybe getting married, too.
Hunter Turner
>Oh please. Translation decisions are responsible for the sodomy nonsense. Don't give me that "trust the people with a vested interest in projecting a specific viewpoint" crap.
What translation? These are the Jews. They can read hebrew. Translations are considered illegitimate from the original torah.
>This work that has no significantly changed in any part of its history in its original translation? Modern anti-gay propaganda.
Once more, you are telling people, people who practice a faith and study it for years, who own the original translations, who study Talmudic law, that their leanings on the torah are false. Do you understand how ignorant this is?
This is bigger than faggots. This is a faith that has been arguing for two thousand years about the most accurate and faithful interpretation of a written work. This is what the work is, there are tons of people currently studying it. You can actually go fucking ask them if you like
>KJV >Christianity >Being relevant to torah
It's not. Christians are not bound by Jewish law. Tell Christians that quote Leviticus to get pelted with rocks.
Adrian Morris
Gays should just fuck off Nobody outside of Tel Aviv likes you, we aren't some sort of gay paradise and we don't want to be Sure Arabs are barbaric animals who commit honor killings and throw gays of rooftops and we don't do this but that doesn't mean we all like men fucking each other up the ass in this country
Levi Taylor
kys
Chase Carter
Your ignorance is showing.
The word ago from Latin has at least 27 meanings and is one of the most common words in the language.
Think about that for a moment. It's obvious you've never done translation.
pro tip: reading is translation, especially with ambiguously-written and incomplete materials
Gabriel Kelly
>Supreme Court >Catholic
That's a hilarious statement, considering how un-Chatholic their (((Judaical Legislation))) is.
Adam Roberts
>>KJV >>Christianity >>Being relevant to torah dodging my point with red herring
take your edge back to your kid's foreskin
Robert Gomez
Okay. Let me put this more bluntly. Jews don't translate the torah that they use in law.
Real torahs are written by sofers. Sofers are Jewish scribes who have to take painstaking effort into making them.
Your translation might be shit, but the Orthodox Jew's translation is not. They are all the fucking same except for three letters.
The Talmud which defines Jewish law has been interpreting this source material for 2,000 years through an ongoing commentary.
There is no translation issue. There is a constant record of interpretation going back to fucking start of the diaspora. You're telling people that actually read the language that you know that their translation is bad because
>muh homosexuality
Seriously, fuck off you retarded faggot. Go ask a rabbi. Go ask another rabbi. Go ask a "reform rabbi."
Justin White
ITT some edgelord gay literally edges as hard as he can; he's so fucking stupid that he's nowhere near cognizant of how much money the Israeli state has made/still makes from selling arms/munitions to governments who ALWAYS use them to -- lo and behold -- slaughter fucking gays for being gay; but you still don't sage??
Logan Price
Religion is politics.
Instead of using guns to prove one's political argument they use a deity threatening to do things like commit genocide on them if they don't burn groves and take women and children for themselves.
The problems with your stance are:
1) Israel has gay rights. Butthurt Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox Jews haven't stopped that.
2) Religion is politics. It doesn't matter if those politics were scratched with poo on a stick on a fig leaf 3,000 years ago or pissed onto a wall yesterday.
So, reality isn't on your side in both of the important ways in this.
Orthodox Judaism does not dominate Israel's politics enough to prevent gay rights and specific religious beliefs are nothing more than one group's collection of fictions and observations wrapped in fictions.
Easton Nelson
You're using a variety of fallacies:
1) ad populum
2) appeal to authority (if people in charge say it's true it must be true, regardless of their political biases/motivations)
3) time (if it's an old idea it must be true)
4) rejecting the middle (Judaism must be totally anti-gay or a person is secular)
etc.
Brandon Thompson
Talmud is written in Aramaic Most Jews don't spend any amount of time reading it, it's a shitty book filled with rhetorical arguments about what you should do with red cows and other irrelevant shit to daily life
Is it really that hard to believe most Israelis don't like raging homos? I have no issue with regular gay people but Tel Aviv gays are annoying as fuck
Kayden James
Okay, this is going to get really stupid really fast because you haven't set any real metrics and I don't want to argue what definitions are for something like politics = religion.
You're fucking stupid because you're outright declaring that Jews, that are undeniably Jews, that practice Jewish law, that study Jewish faith have a bad translation of their own fucking holy text.
Like this isn't even conspiracy tier shit about khazaria or the devil playing tricks. This is just
>HURR DURR, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUT NEITHER DO PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY DO
I guess sage. This has been a pretty shit thread, is this what we're getting with all the attention now?
Daniel Smith
>Is it really that hard to believe most Israelis don't like raging homos? I have no issue with regular gay people but Tel Aviv gays are annoying as fuck
I don't particularly like raging heteros. Find a point.
Levi Rodriguez
>Talmud is written in Aramaic
Very true, but I never claimed it was written in hebrew.
>Most Jews don't spend any amount of time reading it, it's a shitty book filled with rhetorical arguments about what you should do with red cows and other irrelevant shit to daily life
I don't really care enough to tell people that suck baby dick what to do with their time.
Andrew Flores
Jews are arabs. They're the same thing as muslims.
Their only worth is that they want to kill muslims. The muslim's only worth is also the vice versa of the above.
Joseph Roberts
a typical Sup Forums fallacy = the greater the display of angst the stronger the rebuttal (nearly always when there is no substance to constitute one)
Thomas Powell
It is not like if we got rid of isreal the jews would go away. Most of the worst jews live in america and europe. Keep removing kebab
Dylan Mitchell
Nobody in the Middle East likes faggots and Israel vs Palestine has nothing to do with gays Basing your opinion on a Middle Eastern conflict off of how does this country treat gays is utterly retarded Now go suck off some Mexican in a club and try to avoid getting AIDS in the process
Angel Nelson
>4) rejecting the middle (Judaism must be totally anti-gay or a person is secular) holy fuck you utter garbage, it's called a "false dichotomy," your basic-ass baby's first critical thinking course is utterly failing you; it's why you lack sufficient intelligence to perform an analysis of the Israeli state's contribution to the global LGBT community that penetrates beyond superficial PR points from the Tel Aviv fucking Tourism Board
>a typical Sup Forums fallacy uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you are from reddit tho
Gabriel Watson
Nobody sucks baby dick here those practices are barbaric and only done by Satmar Hasidim who are anti-Zionists and live off American welfare
Leo Morales
>are anti-Zionists and live off American welfare >theintercept.com/2016/07/31/as-israel-prospers-obama-set-to-give-billions-more-in-aid-while-netanyahu-demands-more/
how do you bitch about anti-Zionists living off American welfare, when your prime minister -- who is only out-Zionist'd by his own father, Benzion Netanyahu -- bitches about not getting enough American billions per year??
Gavin Bell
>Nobody in the Middle East likes
Haha.
Maybe you should move to Iran?
Your country likes gays well enough!
>Same-sex sexual activity was legalized in 1988, although the former law against sodomy had not been enforced since a court decision of 1963.
>Israel became the first in Asia to recognize unregistered cohabitation between same-sex couples.
>Israel recognizes same-sex marriages performed elsewhere, making it the first and only country in Asia to do so.
>Discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation was prohibited in 1992.
>Same-sex couples are allowed to jointly adopt after a court decision in 2008, while previously allowing stepchild adoptions and limited co-guardianship rights for non-biological parents.
>Gays and lesbians have been allowed to serve openly in the military for many years.
>Recent polls have indicated that a majority of Israelis support same-sex marriage.
MOVE TO IRAN, ASSHOLE
: )
Isaiah Anderson
Fuck off Yankel you cousin fucker look at what your people have done in Kiryas Joel
Like I said I have no problem with gay people doing what they want in their own homes, the gay culture is still annoying with their gay pride parades and getting skewered in gay clubs by random men they don't know Most Israelis support civil marriage because Haredi control prohibits many people from getting married, not just gays
Joshua Gonzalez
>literally tried to use the Middle East in general as a cultural standard
>getting skewered in gay clubs by random men they don't know Oh please. Men have been cheating on their wives with mistresses, hookers, and the like for thousands of years and you're clutching your pearls over gay guys going to gay clubs to find gay sex?
If you like gay people who don't have sex so much hang out with dykes. Men are men.
Lincoln Taylor
>Men have been cheating on their wives with mistresses, hookers, and the like for thousands of years and you're clutching your pearls over gay guys going to gay clubs to find gay sex? And unmarried straights can have a ton of sex.
I was hit on heavily by a hetero woman who was a nympho.
The highest HIV rate in Ohio is in Sandusky — because of heterosexual prostitution.
That's right. The highest rate in the state is from men fucking women.
The HIV rate for gays drops when you have sexual freedom and people valuing gay people fully. That's what drops it:
1) Marriage 2) Masturbation/safe sex clubs
The more people criminalize and marginalize the more problems multiply.
Christopher Russell
Christians could learn a lot from Islam, notably stoning faggots like you to death. Despite the kike influx in recent years, Sup Forums will always support the liberation of Palestine, so take your kike shit somewhere else.
