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>try to ethnically cleanse Eastern Europe
>get ethnically cleansed from Eastern Europe

I don't want to say they DESERVED it, but they sort of did.

stop oppressing basque people

Based Occitan.

That gif is satisfying

as much meme as breton

>be germany
>join a war and start the other
>lose most of your territory you original had

OH NO NO NO NO NO

NO ITS FUCKING NOT

>lose most of your territory you original
these borders changed so much over history, Poland is just a fraction of what once were

needs more Galician

fuck off

>most of your territory you original had
did you even look at the picture?

do you really wanna play this game?

ooooh yes i did aaahahahahahahahaha

1947 is over grandpa

>be German
>get cucked do death

>americans
>greatly helped nazis and traitors launder stolen money
>didn't do shit, were mostly a liability once they joined the Allied side
>still managed to get a huge piece of the cake

Fucking rats.

>occupied before he can even grab his rifle

>Frog
>built a wall to keep the Germans out
>didn’t think of the brilliant strategy of just going around the wall

>frogs
>greatly helped nazis and traitors
>didn't do shit, were mostly a liability once they joined the Allied side
>still managed to get a huge piece of the cake

Fucking rats.

did more than you, pierre

I'm pretty sure you can't speak occitan and if you know some word, you learned them as if it was a dead language.

Literally larping in Latin saying your Roman would be the same.

At least, that is how it feel in Britanny.

>"from the meuse to the memel"

losing colonies is not the same things as losing nearly half your core territory

Non of those were native territories. It was literally extra-land, colonies.

Germans have been living in Prussia for how long?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung

In so called "Prussia", because real Prussians were a baltic people, not german.

since the 1000s
Fucking krauts stealing baltic land
All krauts should be cleansed along side the poles swedes and the russians.

yfw U.S.A. had less casualties than France during ww2

what am i supposed to see here?
t. vorpommern

The onions in our current territory have more vitamins anyway

Occitan is even more meme than Breton

Cheese-eating surrender monkey

Free Bavaria.

>it's a "I forgot about HALF if not 2/3s of the war aka Russia and Japan episode"

God I hate you Europeans when you try to talk about WWII

Burger-eating fat mongrel

That hurts

Occitan is not a language it's a language group

Smelly unwashed wino

Sad Germans have been living there for a thousand years. It would be the Japanese equivalent of giving up Tohoku and Hokkaido to Russia

That's just name games. The Germans named themselves after the tribe there. So what? Slavs named themselfs after the Macedonians. So what? Irrelevant to topic

>you invaded Poland just like the Germans but it's ok, we'll let you guys keep it
>we'll just move the entirety of Poland west

Why is this allowed?

RIP memeland

I've always wondered why the *nglo only declared war on us when we and Russia partitioned Poland

anglos had jewish led governments

As opposed to Nazi Germany funded by American and Anglo banks, trained on Russian Communist plains and letting Rothschild go when they captured him?

I wish I was as braindead as stormfags, to believe that shithole propaganda known as "The Greatest Story Never Told", might as well gulp stuff from sources like "aryanwolf14/88heilerika.blogspot.com"

Because Russia never declared war. It just walked in. There was no Polish government. At that point Germany was already at war with the allies and the allies couldn't handle more. Furthermore it took no real Polish land, only land Poland took from the Russians in 1920. All of these are facts. The only thing you should wonder about is why the allies didn't walk into Germany and executed the entire government in 1936 (remilitarizing Rhineland) or declared war in 1938 when Germany annexed Czechoslovakia and Austria.

>Nazi Germany funded by anglo banks and Anglos were the reason why it got destroyed
this is your brain on toilet cleaning solution

No, I realise that burger IQ prevents you from getting the deepear meaning. But both sides were played by a higher power.

Adolf Shitler and NSDAP were Zionist puppets.

>burger IQ
lel no
You're too emotionally attached to MUH NAZIS OMG to see reality

Yeah, tell me more about history of my region.

Its a fucking fact, you dumb yank. Whether you like it or not, Shitler did more to harm cause of nationalism than communism ever did.

i mean my grandfather fought for poland in ww2 so i could
yeah because they lost, and only because they lost

JUST

>this is your brain on Sup Forums

No, your grandfather did not fought ''for Poland''. America sold Poland to Stalin at Yalta.

And no, Shitler was bankrolled to power throught US money. Deal with it.

do it again hitler

Co ty pierdolisz? To dosłownie przeciwieństwo Sup Forums. Te skurwiałe chujki nic nie rozumieją. Holokaust był na rękę syjonistom.

>discredits my outlandish fringe ideas that more and more people are believing with his own outlandish fringe ideas that only a few retards believe
jestes debil

There WAS fucking Polish goveerment, you dumb fuck. At Sept 17 Poland was still fighting, and was in much better shape than Ruskies on Nov of 1941, with Krauts at the gates of Moscow.

>most Slavic of all peoples (Eastern Germans) get killed and expelled
>somehow this is supposed to trigger Western Germans instead of people like Poles

Its a fucking fact, you moron. Krauts did not ''miraculously ended depresion'' they were bailed out by US and Anglo banks, and in return they started the slaughter to destroy white race in Europe.

so I don't think why people make fun of it
27 millions Soviet people died so why are people making fun of out deaths when we could just make fun of the people killed by Germany during that time

They were already tainted with German mindset. Germanised Slavs are the most hardcore pan-germanists.

how drunk do you have to be to believe this unironically

How many pollocks does it take to be a country of self-hating cucks?

How drunk do you have to be to believe that Hitler was the saviour of the white race?

Shut the fuck up, Krautniggers are mongrelized on the west too. There was never any pure German race, and millions of Krauts on the west died later in Eisenhower camps on the Rhine. They paid for their crimes dearly.

And don't pretend that losing 40% of your territory does not bother you.... you will never have your lebensraum now.

...

> There WAS fucking Polish goverment
Not in Poland, though

t.

Because Krautniggers LOST the war, and demographical blow to Germany was much greater to them, than to Russians?

Krauts essentialy lost 3/4 of their 18-35 male population in WW2. That set the stage for them to import shitskins, to rebuild their ruined country. And now said shitskins are in the process of etnhically replacing you.

Karma is a bitch, isn't it? You reap what you saw.

False since the government wasn't in Poland

Why are the French faggots on this board so obnoxious and retarded as of late?

Nazism was nothing but a parody of the previous based German nationalism. A childish movement, pseudo intellectual and with ridiculously exoteric dyes. Also anti-European and doomed to failure from the beginning.

Based Claus von Stauffenberg.

Yes, it was. Russians cannot really justify stealing VAST ammouts of land in 1939.

That does not mean shit. Russian goverment also fled from Moscow on 1941, only Stalin (supposedely) remained. Germans could also make the case that your state formally ceased to exist at that time....

Ah yes.

That pic is gold, saved.

> Russians cannot really justify stealing VAST ammouts of land in 1939
Easily can. Those were lands Poland grabbed from USSR (more specifically, Belarus and Ukraine) after their victory in 20s. That's reason enough to get them back when opportunity arose. Kurson line is a fair border
> It was literally symbolic gesture
Of course
> meant absolutely nothing
It meant that Poland was an opportunistic hyena of a state that was not committed to European peace and so there was no reason for USSR to take that hostile state's interests into account anymore. No reason to prefer one nationalistic agressor (Poland) over another (Germany), after that.

Like the pic said, it was NOTHING COMPARED TO TAKING half of the country, you dumb Ruskie fag.

And had it not been for the Anglos saving you with LL and second front, Germans would have exterminated you all.

The only fucking oportunistic hyeana, was Kike-led Russia which practically armed Germany with 80% of its WW2 materials, and provided huge surplus of Oil for them, without which they could not start war. Russians even allowed Germans to train their pilots, tankers etc.

They invaded Finland, and Besserabia too.

And recently Crimea.

Pathethic. But i will even help you with the argument
For your analogy to work, you should have used Japan. To Germany, an army under unified command fighting against them was an objective fact
Now, Japan could hypothethically make that statement and move after Sakhalon. Vladivistok or Mongolia and such. That's exactly why at that time Soviet Goverment held a military parade in Kuybishev (sorry for butchered transliteration). There, soviet goverment ("head of state" Kalinin for example) showed foreign diplomants (English mission, Japanese missiion etc) that it was still functioning and held sufficient military power in their hands to be still relevant
And now you know

>And recently Crimea.
1) Crimea was a gift to Ukraine
2) Ukraine starts messing with population there, they start to pose a threat to Russia as there are lots of exUSSR military stuff and bases.
3) GTFO

>Like the pic said, it was NOTHING COMPARED TO TAKING half of the country, you dumb Ruskie fag.
BTW What's wrong with taking half of the country?

Nie spiędzaj swój czas na go.

Why do you expect me to shill for Israel? What SU did was fucking hideous and wrong. Its that simple.

Szto.

'They raped every German female from eight to 80'

"Red Army soldiers don't believe in 'individual liaisons' with German women," wrote the playwright Zakhar Agranenko in his diary when serving as an officer of marine infantry in East Prussia. "Nine, ten, twelve men at a time - they rape them on a collective basis."

The Soviet armies advancing into East Prussia in January 1945, in huge, long columns, were an extraordinary mixture of modern and medieval: tank troops in padded black helmets, Cossack cavalrymen on shaggy mounts with loot strapped to the saddle, lend-lease Studebakers and Dodges towing light field guns, and then a second echelon in horse-drawn carts. The variety of character among the soldiers was almost as great as that of their military equipment. There were freebooters who drank and raped quite shamelessly, and there were idealistic, austere communists and members of the intelligentsia appalled by such behaviour.

Beria and Stalin, back in Moscow, knew perfectly well what was going on from a number of detailed reports. One stated that "many Germans declare that all German women in East Prussia who stayed behind were raped by Red Army soldiers". Numerous examples of gang rape were given - "girls under 18 and old women included".

Marshal Rokossovsky issued order No 006 in an attempt to direct "the feelings of hatred at fighting the enemy on the battlefield." It appears to have had little effect. There were also a few arbitrary attempts to exert authority. The commander of one rifle division is said to have "personally shot a lieutenant who was lining up a group of his men before a German woman spreadeagled on the ground". But either officers were involved themselves, or the lack of discipline made it too dangerous to restore order over drunken soldiers armed with submachine guns.

Calls to avenge the Motherland, violated by the Wehrmacht's invasion, had given the idea that almost any cruelty would be allowed. Even many young women soldiers and medical staff in the Red Army did not appear to disapprove. "Our soldiers' behaviour towards Germans, particularly German women, is absolutely correct!" said a 21-year-old from Agranenko's reconnaissance detachment. A number seemed to find it amusing. Several German women recorded how Soviet servicewomen watched and laughed when they were raped. But some women were deeply shaken by what they witnessed in Germany. Natalya Gesse, a close friend of the scientist Andrei Sakharov, had observed the Red Army in action in 1945 as a Soviet war correspondent. "The Russian soldiers were raping every German female from eight to eighty," she recounted later. "It was an army of rapists."

Drink of every variety, including dangerous chemicals seized from laboratories and workshops, was a major factor in the violence. It seems as if Soviet soldiers needed alcoholic courage to attack a woman. But then, all too often, they drank too much and, unable to complete the act, used the bottle instead with appalling effect. A number of victims were mutilated obscenely.

The subject of the Red Army's mass rapes in Germany has been so repressed in Russia that even today veterans refuse to acknowledge what really happened. The handful prepared to speak openly, however, are totally unrepentant. "They all lifted their skirts for us and lay on the bed," said the leader of one tank company. He even went on to boast that "two million of our children were born" in Germany.

*spędzaj

The capacity of Soviet officers to convince themselves that most of the victims were either happy with their fate, or at least accepted that it was their turn to suffer after what the Wehrmacht had done in Russia, is striking. "Our fellows were so sex-starved," a Soviet major told a British journalist at the time, "that they often raped old women of sixty, seventy or even eighty - much to these grandmothers' surprise, if not downright delight."

One can only scratch at the surface of the psychological contradictions. When gang-raped women in Königsberg begged their attackers afterwards to put them out of their misery, the Red Army men appear to have felt insulted. "Russian soldiers do not shoot women," they replied. "Only German soldiers do that." The Red Army had managed to convince itself that because it had assumed the moral mission to liberate Europe from fascism it could behave entirely as it liked, both personally and politically.

Domination and humiliation permeated most soldiers' treatment of women in East Prussia. The victims not only bore the brunt of revenge for Wehrmacht crimes, they also represented an atavistic target as old as war itself. Rape is the act of a conqueror, the feminist historian Susan Brownmiller observed, aimed at the "bodies of the defeated enemy's women" to emphasise his victory. Yet after the initial fury of January 1945 dissipated, the sadism became less marked. By the time the Red Army reached Berlin three months later, its soldiers tended to regard German women more as a casual right of conquest. The sense of domination certainly continued, but this was perhaps partly an indirect product of the humiliations which they themselves had suffered at the hands of their commanders and the Soviet authorities as a whole.

A number of other forces or influences were at work. Sexual freedom had been a subject for lively debate within Communist party circles during the 1920s, but during the following decade, Stalin ensured that Soviet society depicted itself as virtually asexual. This had nothing to do with genuine puritanism: it was because love and sex did not fit in with dogma designed to "deindividualise" the individual. Human urges and emotions had to be suppressed. Freud's work was banned, divorce and adultery were matters for strong party disapproval. Criminal sanctions against homosexuality were reintroduced. The new doctrine extended even to the complete suppression of sex education. In graphic art, the clothed outline of a woman's breasts was regarded as dangerously erotic. They had to be disguised under boiler suits. The regime clearly wanted any form of desire to be converted into love for the party and above all for Comrade Stalin.

Most ill-educated Red Army soldiers suffered from sexual ignorance and utterly unenlightened attitudes towards women. So the Soviet state's attempts to suppress the libido of its people created what one Russian writer described as a sort of "barracks eroticism" which was far more primitive and violent than "the most sordid foreign pornography". All this was combined with the dehumanising influence of modern propaganda and the atavistic, warring impulses of men marked by fear and suffering.

The novelist Vasily Grossman, a war correspondent attached to the invading Red Army, soon discovered that rape victims were not just Germans. Polish women also suffered. So did young Russian, Belorussian and Ukrainian women who had been sent back to Germany by the Wehrmacht for slave labour. "Liberated Soviet girls quite often complain that our soldiers rape them," he noted. "One girl said to me in tears: 'He was an old man, older than my father'."

The rape of Soviet women and girls seriously undermines Russian attempts to justify Red Army behaviour on the grounds of revenge for German brutality in the Soviet Union. On March 29 1945 the central committee of the Komsomol (the youth organisation of the Soviet Union) informed Stalin's associate Malenkov of a report from the 1st Ukrainian Front. "On the night of 24 February," General Tsygankov recorded in the first of many examples, "a group of 35 provisional lieutenants on a course and their battalion commander entered the women's dormitory in the village of Grutenberg and raped them."

In Berlin, many women were simply not prepared for the shock of Russian revenge, however much horror propaganda they had heard from Goebbels. Many reassured themselves that, although the danger must be great out in the countryside, mass rapes could hardly take place in the city in front of everybody.

In Dahlem, Soviet officers visited Sister Kunigunde, the mother superior of Haus Dahlem, a maternity clinic and orphanage. The officers and their men behaved impeccably. In fact, the officers even warned Sister Kunigunde about the second-line troops following on behind. Their prediction proved entirely accurate. Nuns, young girls, old women, pregnant women and mothers who had just given birth were all raped without pity.

What SU did was fucking hideous and wrong. Its that simple.
For some It's only "wrong and hideous", for others it's not that bad. You lost, you got butt hurt and looking for excuses.

Yet within a couple of days, a pattern emerged of soldiers flashing torches in the faces of women huddled in the bunkers to choose their victims. This process of selection, as opposed to the indiscriminate violence shown earlier, indicates a definite change. By this stage Soviet soldiers started to treat German women more as sexual spoils of war than as substitutes for the Wehrmacht on which to vent their rage.

Rape has often been defined by writers on the subject as an act of violence which has little to do with sex. But that is a definition from the victim's perspective. To understand the crime, one needs to see things from the perpetrator's point of view, especially in the later stages when unaggravated rape had succeeded the extreme onslaught of January and February.

Many women found themselves forced to "concede" to one soldier in the hope that he would protect them from others. Magda Wieland, a 24-year-old actress, was dragged from a cupboard in her apartment just off the Kurfürstendamm. A very young soldier from central Asia hauled her out. He was so excited at the prospect of a beautiful young blonde that he ejaculated prematurely. By sign language, she offered herself to him as a girlfriend if he would protect her from other Russian soldiers, but he went off to boast to his comrades and another soldier raped her. Ellen Goetz, a Jewish friend of Magda's, was also raped. When other Germans tried to explain to the Russians that she was Jewish and had been persecuted, they received the retort: "Frau ist Frau."

Women soon learned to disappear during the "hunting hours" of the evening. Young daughters were hidden in storage lofts for days on end. Mothers emerged into the street to fetch water only in the early morning when Soviet soldiers were sleeping off the alcohol from the night before. Sometimes the greatest danger came from one mother giving away the hiding place of other girls in a desperate bid to save her own daughter. Older Berliners still remember the screams every night. It was impossible not to hear them because all the windows had been blown in.

Estimates of rape victims from the city's two main hospitals ranged from 95,000 to 130,000. One doctor deduced that out of approximately 100,000 women raped in the city, some 10,000 died as a result, mostly from suicide. The death rate was thought to have been much higher among the 1.4 million estimated victims in East Prussia, Pomerania and Silesia. Altogether at least two million German women are thought to have been raped, and a substantial minority, if not a majority, appear to have suffered multiple rape.

If anyone attempted to defend a woman against a Soviet attacker it was either a father trying to defend a daughter or a young son trying to protect his mother. "The 13-year old Dieter Sahl," neighbours wrote in a letter shortly after the event, "threw himself with flailing fists at a Russian who was raping his mother in front of him. He did not succeed in anything except getting himself shot."

You should calm down
> The only fucking oportunistic hyeana, was Kike-led Russia which practically armed Germany with 80% of its WW2 materials, and provided huge surplus of Oil for them, without which they could not start war. Russians even allowed Germans to train their pilots, tankers etc.
> They invaded Finland, and Besserabia too
Let's take those points apart
Starting with last
Invading Finland and Bessarabia was a bad thing. Among other bad things. They can be reasoned about, but ultimately those were fruitless policies that only resulted in pretty much pointless bloodshed
As for "why Germany could fight the war and who is responsible" one needs to look no further then those countries that literally were responsible for the Versailles treaty. It was their responsibility to hold Germans down, just as it was their isolation of USSR led it to building economic ties with Germany.
Now, about hyenas. People are naturally free to use epithets, but me and Winston Churchill agree on Poland being the hyena here

After the second stage of women offering themselves to one soldier to save themselves from others, came the post-battle need to survive starvation. Susan Brownmiller noted "the murky line that divides wartime rape from wartime prostitution". Soon after the surrender in Berlin, Ursula von Kardorff found all sorts of women prostituting themselves for food or the alternative currency of cigarettes. Helke Sander, a German film-maker who researched the subject in great detail, wrote of "the grey area of direct force, blackmail, calculation and real affection".

The fourth stage was a strange form of cohabitation in which Red Army officers settled in with German "occupation wives". The Soviet authorities were appalled and enraged when a number of Red Army officers, intent on staying with their German lovers, deserted when it was time to return to the Motherland.

>didn't do shit, were mostly a liability once they joined the Allied side
I ususally defend France when people say that they didn't do shit in WW2 but this is too fucking much. The american industry helped win the war as much as the soldiers of the allied forces. Not to mention, the yanks did a lot in Italy/France and in the Pacific. Do I need to remind you that de Gaulle's laughable army depended on the other allies completely?

How fuck can he calm down? It commies created so called western Ukraine.

Just one answer, and бeз виляния жoпoй, please.

What is worser for you? A polish Lwów, or today's neonbandera's Lviv.

Poland was not a Hyena, USSR was. Germany was fueled by USSR materials, Iron Ore and Oil right up to June 1941, (last train with Iron and Coal left for Germany from Russia on 21 June 1941, a day before Invasion).

I suppose katyn was also justified? Russia helped to create Nazi Germany as much as the West.

>hurr durr evil Poles tried to assimilate Ruthenians

How many of nations were assimilated in Russia?