Hey you Star Wars fans, you know your hero Luke Skywalker? He is evil now and is in cahoots with Snoke!
Our new character Rey is much better than him both morally and power wise and you have to deal with it!
We don't care if you don't like it, we are guaranteed to make billions anyways!
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I thought the force sloth was the main villain
... and there's nothing you can do about it, goy (well I mean you can buy our toys... you will won't you? please)
This thread is now about how you would have re-written TFA.
Personally I would have brought in Hammil and Ford as the lead actors again and done away with the entire nu-starwars plot. After the loss of their son, Solo and Leia became estranged for years until he gets an SOS transmission from her. He and Luke, with the help of some new friends like the tech-savvy Rey travel to the war torn planet, Coruscant to find that a new order has been building on the ruins of the old jedi temple. Kylo is revealed and takes off his mask at the climax and kills both his parents, while luke barely manages to hold him off and escape with Rey to teach her the ways of the force. They end up banging too.
>making an old, white male a villain in the current year
I don't see a problem here.
>pulls the string on the Luke figure
>"It's time old white men like me stepped aside and made way for the future."
>pulls string
>"Our galaxies are full of too many people like me. Wouldn't it be so much better if guys like myself would just step aside and let people of other races populate the galaxies?"
>"it's time for the white males... to end"
Literally a quote from the trailer.
>Ford as the lead
He fucking hates Star Wars and phones it in 9/10 times in all of his movies now that's an old shit.
I wouldn't be surprised if he only joined up because they told him they'd kill off Solo.
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Just cast him as a cranky old jaded Han then, even if he phones in a performance, he still does a great job. Like Clint Eastwood in Gran Torino.
>This thread is now about how you would have re-written TFA.
There should have been more factions within the galaxy/story.
>New Republic
>New Jedi Order
>Hutt/crime syndicates
>First Order
>Kylo Ren and other Dark Jedi
>Non-aligned systems
The First Order should have been comprised of remnant Imperial Moffs, Generals, and Admirals. After coming of age at the end of the Clone Wars and being indoctrinated to fear and hate Jedi, they served the Empire under the torment and threats of a spooky dark Force user, and his creepy cyborg ex-jedi ax man, only to watch their empire brought down by another Jedi, these Imperials want nothing to do with Force users of any kind. They mostly use old Imperial weapons and equipment, but now also have specialist units that can go toe to toe with Jedi and other Force users.
>We don't care if you don't like it, we are guaranteed to make billions anyways!
How did they do it? How did they force Lucas to sell?
Well that would actually be somewhat original for once.
Then again, I do wonder why Luke just fucked off after Darth Schoolshooter killed all his pupils. But I guess that's a Jedi thing.
Rian Johnson is a cuck. He didn't write the stroy by himself. He had to get permision from Kiri Hart doing his thing. Kiri Hart is a cunt who's running the Lucasfilm story groups which is composed by abunch of cunts who don't know anything about storytelling but they know about their vagina, and that's the only thing they will be talking about. Embarrassing because Rian pretends he has full creative control.
The story group was invented by Disney and is essentially a focus group.
>This thread is now about how you would have re-written TFA.
Leia should have been a Jedi.
For all the noise they made about Carie Fisher and how great and important her role was in Star Wars, Disney really did her a disservice by relegating Leia to a nothing-burger position and never developing herForce abilities.
Who can I blame for this?
>How did they do it? How did they force Lucas to sell?
Pedo honeypot blackmail.
It will crash and burn, the last jedi will. Let it crash and burn.
>This thread is now about how you would have re-written TFA.
Finn was wasted in TFA.
He's an adult child-soldier who breaks his conditioning. He should be deeply conflicted and torn between fearing/hating the First Order and loyalty to his comrades. He escapes into a galaxy that can't understand: he has no moral compass outside military discipline, so he struggles to find direction. He joins the Rebellion but isn't fully accepted due to his past and his reluctance to kill brainwashed First Order fighters.
>Imagine this scene: Rebel fighters are coming back from a mission, cracking jokes about ambushing a squad of Storm Troopers, Finn overhears and confronts them. Those storm troopers were like him, they weren't given a choice in which side they fought on.
When he fights Phasma, he's holding back, he wants to save her. Similarly, Phasma holds back against Finn, he is her greatest failure and she wants to bring him back into the fold.
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WHY WOULD ANYONE WANNA BUY A TOY OF THIS ASIAN WOMAN THAT LOOKS SO UNAPPEALING?
>"I want you to find the most unattractive Asian chick that there is"
>How did they force Lucas to sell?
By saying they could make his life a living hell if he didn't. It's obvious this is what they did.
Just watch the interviews of Lucas and you can see how sad he is. Not to mention he WANTED to be on set with Disney but since he didn't like what they were doing and how they wouldn't allow any of his ideas to go into these films, he had to part ways
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Disney films test audiences then uses facial expression recognition algorithms in order to optimize the viewer experiences of their movies and rides. Maybe they used this technology during the casting process but had it poorly calibrated. Somebody probably questioned the computer's decision, but since it's worked well in the past, they were overruled.
>I brought Kathy on board because I wanted somebody I trusted.
>somebody I trusted.
Ahh that's why Star Wars is now so shit. Women ruin politics and art alike.
>Just watch the interviews of Lucas and you can see how sad he is
But Lucas is always sad
>is now so shit
Are we really going to sit here and pretend that the Disney movies are worse then the prequels?
If anyone thinks that TFA is down there with the prequels than they are retards
However if the evil Luke thing is true I will consider them to be just as bad
Disney has made a lot of bad choices with Star Wars, however I doubt that they would go so far as to make Luke evil.
I don't think they're *as* bad as the prequels, but they're insultingly unimaginative and safe.
Evil Luke is obviously disinfo bait to build hype around the movie, (((they))) do this every fucking time. I thought Sup Forums already learned to spot (((their))) tricks.
Then we are entering the age old question of do you want something unimaginative and safe or imaginative and bad?
Who is this they that you speak off?
Imaginative and bad all the way. Even if you look only at the memes spawned by the Prequels, imaginative shit is clearly superior.
Not here, user.
Lucas oils have thrown around ideas with the new trilogy, it would help a lot with thier imagination
Because while everything else Lucas did was horrible, his imagination was amazing
I'll take imaginative and bad every time, because imaginative stands the chance of producing something great or at least so bad it's good. Unimaginative, safe films never produce anything offensive enough to enjoy at any level. They're just a vacuum of a viewing experience that's consumed and largely forgotten.
I thought the Force is meant to be an aether that permeates through everything and creates the polarities of light and dark through balance.
But I guess it's female now or whatever.
Was it male before? I don't know.
Hamill and Ford are too old to carry an action movie. This is retarded. The OT is over, let it go.
Didn't Hamill always want Luke to go dark?
Postmodern anti-heroic inversion. Storytelling designed to de-moralize.
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>Snoke doesn't want the Jedi to return
>Luke isn't interested in bringing the Jedi back
What's the fucking problem here?
Who here won't go see star wars in the cinema? I will probably pirate it but at this point I really don't care that much anymore.
It's like when I used to be a capeshit fan, excited for when the new movies came up and forgiving the mediocre scripts and generic tone, until Avengers came out and I just couldn't ignore the shittyness anymore.
At this point Star wars is just another franchise for normies who fancy themselves nerdy, and tumblrinas. We are not the target audience for this crap, so might as well move on to bigger, better things.
I won't. I'm not boycotting it, or anything like that. I've come to the conclusion that Star Wars, for me, is the undoctored original trilogy that I saw in the theatres back in the 70s and 80s. Less is more.
>Who here won't go see star wars in the cinema?
I'll still see it, but I'll probably buy a ticket for a different movie and just go in the theater screening SW in order to divest from the franchise.
Yeah, I won't, I saw two movies, red the new books and the characters made according to progressive checklist means that they will never be in any way interesting as it is always the case.
It is pointless for me to waste money on it any longer. It will still make billions.
Revenge of the sith is complete kino next to these nu star wars shit man
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>I moved up to San Francisco and regularly met with Kiri Hart and her team of Funny and Talented Female Writers (Deal With It™)
>I'd write all my ideas up on a white board and bounce them off her story group.
>I'd let them tell me "No, don't do that."
>Or "Yes, you can do that"
>It was good to get permission from somebody in order to do anything
This level cuckoldry isn't even funny, it's just sad.
>This thread is now about how you would have re-written TFA.
>the Demon Prince Mortarion loses his way in the warp
>he and his Chaos Terminator bodyguards exit the warp in TFA universe
>butchers everyone with his giant scythe
>picks his teeth with lighsabers
>gets stomach pains due to the levels of faggotry and xenoestrogen
>returns back WH universe
>appreciates the Imperium just a tiny bit more
The worst part is that Rian Johnson seems to find this perfectly normal. I mean, even JJ Abrams didn't reveal it because he knows it's a shame.
Of all the things to carry over from the EU. At least there she was President of the Galaxy for about 25 years.
>Ben has developmental issues and can only use the Force when throwing tantrums
>His out of control behavior causes Han to walk out on Leia
>Leia sends him to some crazy aliens to have him purged of his connection to the force
>Snoke captures Ben on route to aliens, promises to teach him how to use the force, but can only really give him a few tricks from some old holocrons he has (like the blaster bolt freeze and mindreading)
>Rey is the force prodigy daughter of Leia and Han
>She's the phenom of Luke's Academy on Yavin 4 (a friendly old-EU pull like calling the capital world Coruscant in the prequels)
>Ben couldn't find it in him to kill his crying younger sister he's never seen before, but "heard so much about."
>Ben leaves
>Luke finds Rey, dumps her on Jakku so she'll grow up a humble desert life like him
Depends on the criteria. If you mean disappointment, then yeah TFA is rock bottom bellow the prequels even.
All that money and effort (and talent for the visual stuff) wasted on a remake of ANH, starring a Mary Sue. 1/3 of the new trilogy, pointless and heartless. I can't believe RLM praised this shit.
>All that money and effort (and talent for the visual stuff)
Budget and VFX are meaningless when the director is a hack who doesn't know his head from his ass. The visuals were unimpressive, it was CGI scenes that you can see in any blockbuster or videogame. There isn't even just one scene that is memorable, this movie even fails at being brainless entertainment. There's no fun in watching a planet charging the sun energy or watching dogfights where you don't care about anything because you know the good guys kill all the bad guys in the most easy ways.
Wait for when Rey force lifts Luke's X-wing off the ocean's floor at the end of her training so that she can leave the planet. Confirmed BTW.
For fuck's sake, Rey was on Jakku for fucking YEARS before Kylo even came to be. Ben Solo became Kylo Ren and wrecked Luke's shit only 6 years before TFA.
Instead we got easy-going quips.
I like Boyega as an actor, but Finn isn't a good character at all. The movie doesn't know what it wants out of Finn, and it shows.
I doubt Luke will be evil. It seems more that he's suffering from chronic depression.
I don't mind Luke having that dimension to his personality either, but it's terrible that it stems from him making mistakes identical to the ones Obi-Wan and Yoda made. Luke shouldn't be perfect, but his handling of Kylo feels completely false given where RotJ left him.
Yeah, and the X-wing has been in salty waters for like 30 years. She lifts starts the engine, doesn't turn on. Proceeds to remove a piece of electronics, I bypassed the compressor and now it can enter lightspeed faster than the Falcon
There is one consistent rule of Star Wars canon: movies over everything, and books get retconned constantly. You cannot depend on them.
Yeah, I chuckled and then I realized that there is very high chance it will be exactly like that.
>Hey you Star Wars fans, you know your hero Luke Skywalker? He is evil now and is in cahoots with Snoke!
>Our new character Rey is much better than him both morally and power wise and you have to deal with it!
So this is guaranteed to make billions more, more than having Luke being good????
& it would be a better story & result to have him be bad????
^Sounds f'n outrageous & wonder how it would be a much better story if Luke is bad.....
the worse thing is these are people who probably arent writers but just read headlines like "Renlo shipping is abusive" and took their cues from tumblr complaints or fanfics
>that's what I've been hearing people want
>I like Boyega as an actor, but Finn isn't a good character at all. The movie doesn't know what it wants out of Finn, and it shows.
It's very unfortunate that he's relegated to the sidekick quipshit role, since there's a lot of potential to his character. There's even the redemption theme to go with.
TFA is literally Mary Sue fanfiction of ANH
It's one of the worst films ever made
It deserves 1 out of 10.
This movie is Rey's adventure in Star Wars land, there isn't any room for any other character than Mary Sue. Even the old cast are just useless spectators in this film. This film is pure fan fiction fantasy written by a 13 years old girl that doesn't know anything about anything.
The question is, does JJ Abrams have the brain of a 13 year old girl?
Rian Johnson was the one who came up with that timeline in the first place. In fact, I think he specifically changed it from Ben Solo being a teen when he turned. So it's his timeline and it hasn't changed.
>I like Boyega as an actor
What has he even done, besides Attack The Block?
>This movie is Rey's adventure in Star Wars land, there isn't any room for any other character than Mary Sue. Even the old cast are just useless spectators in this film. This film is pure fan fiction fantasy written by a 13 years old girl that doesn't know anything about anything.
Imagine the plot and events of Episode IV are a rpg module. A New Hope is a group of gamers playing it perfectly. The Force Awakens is the same module played by the GM's girlfriend.
Finn is literally Jar Jar without the CGI in TFA, ironically.
>The Force Awakens is the same module played by the GM's girlfriend
That's exactly what it is.
Does anyone have a link to that thread that was posted last night?
All the good Star Wars threads are posted on Friday night.
It's not very PC to say he sucks and his overacting was shit. Even if his character is Jar Jar Binks, his acting didn't look good. It felt like Harrison Ford told him how to play the scenes.
The funny faces might work for Ford, not for him.
>More than 50% female
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>Hey you Star Wars fans, you know your hero Luke Skywalker? He is evil now and is in cahoots with Snoke!
>Our new character Rey is much better than him both morally and power wise and you have to deal with it!
So this is guaranteed to make billions more, more than having Luke being good????
& it would be a better story & result to have him be bad????
Sounds f'n outrageous & wonder how it would be a much better story if Luke is bad.....
They did the same thing with TFA.
Rey is literally their creation. They admitted it.
JJ is bad, but he's not that bad.
This is why Rey is such a Mary Sue. A group of women wrote her.
Gonna watch a camrip
I just meant that I think he could play a more grounded role well enough, judging from a few moments in TFA. I don't think he's a bad actor, so why waste the character on something so empty?
>hollywood actors choosing not to take millions of dollars for a role they dont like
i dont think so man
I'll end up seeing it with my dad on Christmas. He still likes going to see them even if he falls asleep half way through. I miss when there were movies worth seeing at Christmas like LotR's
>Hey you Star Wars fans, you know your hero Luke Skywalker? He is evil now and is in cahoots with Snoke!
So Luke doesn't care @ all bout his best friend Han Solo???
Leia didn't even care about Chewie, user.
The main cast are literally all subservient to Rey.
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>Leia didn't even care about Chewie, user.
>The main cast are literally all subservient to Rey.
So Luke turning bad is true????
Most likely.
She'll "save him".
If not, then "she'll fix him and he'll see the best course of action due to her insight".
Some women are intimidated by women more attractive than them.
Definitely the latter. I'd rather watch Manos: The Hands of Fate a thousand times than watch Eat, Pray, Love even once.
Who's going to be the main villain in episode 9? I'm assuming they defeat Snoke in this one, so will it be Luke?
>Who's going to be the main villain in episode 9? I'm assuming they defeat Snoke in this one, so will it be Luke?
the cishet patriarchy.
Have Han, Chewie, Luke, and Leia all together again in a group hug. Don't care what else. This will never happen now.
>He is evil now and is in cahoots with Snoke!
You say that like that's a bad thing
Also
>reddit spacing
baka
>So Luke turning bad is true????
Leia force ghost confirmed for Episode IX?
I'm more interested in seeing how they kill off Leia now.
You guys do know those leaks are horseshit right? Why are you unironically getting upset over a strawmen YOU created?
It is a bad thing. Why do you think that's a good direction for Luke's character?
>Leia force ghost confirmed for Episode IX?
How could that happen? Leia's not a Jedi. Her only demonstrated Force ability is sensing someone getting hurt or killed.
why does anyone even care about star wars anymore? Its in the hands of the company that shits out 50 marvel movies every year. even if this trilogy turns out decent (unlikely, given ep7) the franchise as a whole will be total shit and everyone will be sick of it in a decade.
He is a symbol of the old Jedi order and a relic of the past. He's there to help make way for the newer generation.
The leaks are proven true