Anyone else here a former liberal?

Tell us about your journey to sanity..

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I am still a liberal.

I just prefer the other side over my own right now. Better we lose progress that we've made than make leaps and bounds of """""progress""""

I'm still a liberal.

I just think kikes, mudslimes, niggers and gypsies should not be in white nations or have any control over them.

Our progress

I think I'm a "liberal minded" person in general. The right just became too much more intellectual over the past twenty years.

Smart people are mostly still liberal.

"Conservatives" aren't dumb, they're the average middle and working classes. Good people, but not high IQ college strivers.

The extremely smart people have all changed to something closer to Germanic Idealism or Traditionalism, though, so it's clear that there's a sea change coming. There's a few academics who are too deep into the bubble to have seen outside, but it's very clear to anyone with clear eyes what has happened. To preserve civilization, we need to radically roll back the last century of progress.

I was very young

It was very brief

The experience itself was its own vaccination

I can never be infected again

Former lib, here. You know, it's really just because i got older. I got a job, fell in love, quickly realized the degeneracy of women and watched it suck the life out of me and everyone else.

You pay enough taxes, and you ask "wtf?".
I scrape, i get ahead in life, and suddenly i can see the bottom feeders asking for more gibs and it pisses me off. Plus, i was labeled 'privileged' and racist by my own friends. Most of them burnouts now, and entirely doomed to their unhappy life.

If you read a lot of philosophy, or simply think and question our society, you will find out who controls it.

It's very hard for an introspective thoughtful person to hold the default liberal positions right now. To an honest thinker, doing what seems 'right and moral and egalitarian' is suicidal. We need to synthesize an entirely new worldview to deal with what has happened, and liberalism isn't interested in the task at all.

Modern leftists aren't liberals. The classic definition of liberal has been tossed aside. I'm liberal af but according to the rest of the world I'm a right winger these days. Interesting times we live in.

I've always been an "oldschool" liberal, pragmatic, pro-science.

For a long time I didn't appreciate the difference between this kind of liberalism and the "new left" stuff people are into now adays. Then I took some classes and realized how extreme these folks are, and how they don't give a shit about logic or reason.

So, for example, I can admit that there may be genetic causes underlying some differences in racial outcome, as a hypothesis it's reasonable, but there really isn't any evidence for it. Social factors may be hiding it, but it's not an idea to run with at this time.

Further, the people attached to the idea of the genetic "inferiority" of some races are generally hateful throwbacks, so there is a good reason to ignore this hypothesis for the time being, since examining it is less about understanding the world and more about being a lousy bigot, and there's no reason to encourage the bigots.

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HBD related blog worth reading if you're still curious

31 now.
>Grew up in religious household, dad was in seminary 4 years and a pastor for 5 years.
>Dad used to be a musician and has a problem with authority
>Redpills me early on some things, turn 14.
>Dad quits pastor'ing, converts to catholic, we move (for the 10th time in my life)
>Beginangstyrebellion.exe
>Lots of shit happens, dropout, musician, but immediately start working full-time.
>Hit 22 and have boot-strapped myself into middle-class job.
>Have breakup, waste money and time
>Hit 25 and notice the Daily Show, a show I used to love and was not allowed to watch (along with Bill Maher's Politically Incorrect) has started to annoy me and is disseminating misinformation via satire. Anti-authoritarian in me does not like having intelligence underestimated.
>Start putting things together. By this point I'd been browsing Sup Forums for a long time and never went to Sup Forums.
>John Locke, Frederic Bastiat, Milton Friedman etc.
>By 26-27 and
>Be 30 and start browsing and posting on Sup Forums

I was basically a big fat fucking pussy from 14-24, where after yet another breakup with a feminist, my feelings on the world began to change.

And then I realized my old man was right the whole time.

Makes me think of that Mark Twain quote. paraphrasing:

"When I was 16 my father was so ignorant I couldn't stand to be around him, but when I came home at 23 I was surprised at just how much the old man had learned in 7 years."

I'd like to think I'm a liberal person, but I think that humans have a hard time differentiating what "liberal" is, and what is going to far, or just plain insanity.

I would say that I am as close to being "liberal" while staying sane, just in a realist point of view.
People need to be kept in some kind of order, but not to the point of it being a stranglehold over their lives. Be free, but observe critical thinking(not in the Frankfort school sense)

Overall, I think people need to stop being so afraid that it allows them to abandon reason to institute their ideas of what is "safe" to the rest of the general populace.

>lifelong militant liberal

>went into media along SJW routes

>saw from the inside how corrupt, hypocritical and insane it was

>tried my best to get along but being a successful white male made me the enemy of all the socialists and niggers in my industry

>can't take socialist and nigger bullshit anymore, leave the city and my media job for the country

>no police helicopters, homeless, niggers or liberal bullshit. why is theme famanons? suddenly I'm much happier and enjoying life a lot more

>find reddit coontown and suddenly it put words to a lot of the things I watched on the streets but my liberal cognitive dissonance wouldn't let me deal

>go further and further down the well until now i'm full on gas the socialists and niggers

>i still am somewhat socially liberal though. I think the right needs to welcome gays and lesbians and I think the right needs to focus primarily on freedom and freedom of speech. but I think niggers are a plague on the earth and I think all socialists should be hung from lampposts.

>/comfy as fuck now living in the country with my own house and business

>2008
>Just graduated highschool, started college.
>Basically centrist with anti-religious and anti-drug-war biases.
>McCain literally stole my parking space.
>I watched him do it with his big stupid trailer so he could give a speech in a permablue state.
>Obongo says he'll end the war so I vote for him. I know he won't, but I figure it's more likely.
>Everything went exactly as I expected. >Complete disillusionment with the establishment.
>Don't really think about politics for next 4 years.
>Have some engineering classes, realize that our way of life isn't sustainable and society is fucked.
>Break up with a long term girlfriend who thought it was okay to send nudes to individuals who weren't me.
>Literally the most depressed I've ever been,
>Go back to Sup Forums after a few years away.
>Browse the obscure boards in search of validation of my woman-hate.
>Sup Forums proceeds to be right about everything.
>Realize that no one is coming to save us, western civilization was lost before I even went to college.
>Become hardliner conservative nationalist fascist.
>Become a machine that exists only for self improvement.
>/fit/, /k/, /ck/,
>Change careers, start making stupid money.
>For the first time in my life women approach me, not the inverse.
>Going to live as an alpha until the end times, and be ready to survive.
>All because Stacy wanted to get plat in league with her tits.

I love you guys.

>who controls it.
The billionaires? The fuck does that have to do with philosophy?

>HBD
?
hi boltage dido XDDD?

>people need to stop being so afraid
hear, hear

I would have considered myself a liberal in the sense of personal freedom. Gun rights, do what you want as long as you aren't hurting anybody, and sort of pro-immigration

Once I started really growing up and experiencing the world it helped shape my perspective better. I live in California so I can see what reckless immigration can do to once quite humble little cities. I've also become much more concerned about the demographic bomb we're going to face in the coming decades unless we can fix it. This is probably one of the biggest things that bothers me.

While I still basically feel that people should have their personal rights and do whatever they want, homosexuality most definitely shouldn't be encouraged let alone a state sanctioned practice.

Billionaires are just people, they don't control society, they just have an overrepresentation due to amassed wealth

Ideas control society, not people

and HBD is human biodiversity. If you're interested in science, human achievement and genetics, that's what you should be reading

I'll be honest, most of you faggots are probably NEETs, but i will say that you're not blind.
I'm a little inebriated, but if anyone gives a shit, just remember this.
1. A Judge can toss out a Prenup, if he thinks its one sided.
2. even if you're poor, invest something small into your retirement. It helps support the right frame of mind.
3. ALWAYS pony up the cash to get a decent lawyer. I don't care what the situation is. It's always worth in in the long run.

You're alright. I'll allow a moderate welfare state if the country is 90% white and single motherhood is still massively taboo.

The right happens to be anti-establishment this time around so my beliefs haven't necessarily changed at all.

communist to racially aware communist.

Anyone else agree objectively the waffen-SS were the most aesthetic soldiers ever?

Suave little devils they were.

>Liberal parents
>BE A LIBERAL. REPUBLICANS ARE EVIL
>Ok
>Get into government club in high school, become committee chair
>Wait democrats are fucking retarded
>But I don't completely agree with conservatives
>Migrate from Sup Forums and /fit/ to Sup Forums
>This is literally everything I believe in but am too scared to say out loud

Now I have a poster of a nazi Pepe over my bed. I frogot to take it down for the first girl I've had spend the night in years. Thanks Sup Forums

At heart I'm a marxist communist, but since this is reality I'm more of a fascist.
Weird, right?

Everything about them was styled. From their uniforms, hair, to their superior weaponry.

...

I was at college and all of my friends were into burnie and saying that trump was bad. I was not into politics so I just agreed with them. Burnie ended up coming to talk to our school and I went and saw him and stood right in front of the stage. I agreed with 0 of his points. They were all just pandering garbage. Ordered a trump hat that night. I was never really a liberal, my views have always been more conservative but burnie really pushed me farther away from liberals to where I am today.

I still am.

I just refuse to back fascism.

Liberalism isn't censorship through shame, that's SJWism.

That would make you a national socialist.

I just started looking at the facts

>1916- 1st issue of "Journal of Negro History" published
We need to go farther

Moved to vancouver for college from a white town, seriously, wtf Vancouver, your shit is fucked up and evryone has their head in the sand about the problems facing that chinese, mudslime infested shit hole.

I grew up on classic Jon Stewart and Colbert as a teen.
It shaped my thinking quite a lot, but in general I still held very conservative views on Immigration and Guns.
Then i fell out of politics and just didn't give a shit for a while.
Then this glorious fucking election cycle began and although I started out as a Bernie Sanders supporter, I started listening to the Trump and slowly but surely the veil started to lift.
I rediscovered this place.
When I first visited Sup Forums years ago, I just dismissed it as a bunch of Neo-Nazis and Tin-foil hats, which I guess is still true to some extent but that's because this is the only asylum for those ideas in today's society.
I love this place if for nothing else than the fact it is the last true bastion of free speech on the internet (dark web not included).

I'm more anti-federalist, and don't understand the desire for strong central authority from some of my 'conservative' fellows on this board.

However, I don't like that the definition of 'liberal' has been usurped by the party that is decidedly against personal freedom.

And on that note...
>I think the right needs to welcome gays

I agree. What people do is their fucking business. I was pretty into punk.

And it dawned on me...

>There's
>Nothing
>Less
>Punk
>Than
>More
>Government

I know, duh, right? I love when I get an opportunity to say that to all my musician buddies. Have to tread lightly and expose them in bits and pieces.

the hardest redpill to swallow is to realize that politics is jsut cancer to progress now.

Just like the banking system, Politics is close to being obsolete and will be in the next 20 years.

Either we fuck up or we change life drastically.

A large teams of anthropologist and scientists who study human behavior along with an modern (yes its already possible) AI program would do much better at maintaining people and the planet.

Also another tough redpill was seeing the horseshoeing, both sides are full of bigotry and cognitive dissonance to their biases.

Politics need to gtfo

I was one in HS. Then we started to learn about third-wave feminism in my english AP class and realized how fucking retarded it was. The rest is history as I read into more stuff.

>I was pretty into punk.
Is there any music anymore that gives that sense of community outside of the normie sphere? Punk did it the best in recent years because of its novelty and relative inaccessibility, but what do people;e have to look for anymore?
Where do you go to fit in away from the people who fit in?

Could not reconcile between the liberal thinking and degenerate actions.

Indeed. Classic liberals from a few decades ago would be crucified by modern leftists. It's like that gremlins movie, each subsequent generation is more horrifying and insane

I was a centrist. Never liberal.

During high school my history teacher thought it would be a wise idea to have the class listen/watch Rockwell, Goebbels, and Hitler. Afterwards, he "debunked" the arguments with the holocaust. For the next few years, I would have doubts, but wouldn't commit to them.

About a year later my parents divorced. I began noticing divorce more often in my community. The excuse was always "We weren't happy". I solidified my anti-divorce view due to seeing my friends experience it, along with my own first-hand account. This was also the time that I became an atheist, which lasted about a year or two.

Last year of high school was a fucking shitshow. Began to understand how cancerous women are. Lost most of my friends, never talked to anyone.

In college, I received a large dosage of SJWism. This was followed by a bout of depression, then dismantling of the ideas I was taught. I realized something around this time as well: 'religion is a reflection of the moral standards of a functioning, prosperous society'. Religion was necessary to civlization, even without the belief of god. This was when I became a deist in private, with full support behind Christianity in public.

I discovered Sup Forums after my first term in college. I browsed /hr/ though most of high school, until I saw a Natsoc thread. It seriously felt like a weight was lifted, not only because of the flow of anonymous information but because of the gallows humor that saves me from the inevitable dejection of realizing society is so shit.

So now I'm 21, in Uni, majoring in engineering. I've been reading classical philosophy, building myself up mentally and physically because of it.

Basically I worked my way through this image

>I realized something around this time as well: 'religion is a reflection of the moral standards of a functioning, prosperous society'. Religion was necessary to civlization, even without the belief of god. This was when I became a deist in private, with full support behind Christianity in public.

Exact same thing happened to me in early twenties... religion is like fertilizer for civilization and developing beyond subsistence farming and dying in a tribal conflict

15 read communist manifesto
19 read Bakunin & Emma
20 Nietzsche, Freud, sartre
21 to 27 history, economy and science

I broke free during 20

I've always been about #7, though I never went through any hardcore retarded lib phases.

Honestly Im just scared of the future and the Liberal culture my children are gonna grow up in.

>Former lib, here. You know, it's really just because i got older.

Pretty much this.

I used to be very liberal while in high school, I just got pissed about people passing school without being qualified because muh feelings.

Once I got a job, I realized how many people work jobs they are utterly shit at, and those are usually the most unionized special snowflakes out there and demaning more gibs and more taxes for the rich.

No, it's not the government's fault that you're 50 and you earn less than me. It's because you suck at your job.

Same goes for all my heavily leftist friends, which are out #yoloing and partying everyday and then they complain that other people are richer than them.


tl;dr: I realized we are not all equal and therefore socialism is retarded.

sounds pretty great, and nice sevens

I stopped blowing dicks and left Disneyland

When I was in high school I followed the politics of my father, he was a die hard southern brand conservative. Anti gay, anti immigration, subtly racist the works. At college I became immensely blue pilled and I guess I still am to a degree, I honestly can't say I agree with much of anything on Sup Forums but I enjoy the free speech and the informed ideas that can arise through the nazi shit. Anyways I got heavily involved in the punk scene and got my first taste of a real pc crowd and was thoroughly disgusted. Everything I thought as a liberal was totally changed and I realized that the sjw crowd were not allies. I then supported Bernie Sanders for a while then after he betrayed his own ideals I moved away from liberalism and became a very avid ancom. I still am heavily involved in the punk scene and the fight against authority infringing on our rights. My ideals no longer fit in with mainstream politics. So Sup Forums is what I go to now even if its filled with fascists I enjoy the non censorship

big factor in my not being a liberal: youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0

I still am a liberal on many issues. I just hate sjws and pc shit.

Used to be, you showed me the way.

>Was a leftist up until the age of 23. I am now 29.
>I grew up thinking the religious right were sheep
>Then i realized Leftist were just as bad
>Isreal-Palsitainin conflict truly red pilled me on US politics
>I never understood how US liberals would support Democrats when they literally had the same foreign policy as the Republicans
>I learned about AIPAC being the biggest lobby

>spent time after on /new/ before it became Sup Forums
>I ended up becoming libertarian and supporting Ron Paul
>The lying press snuffed him

>all this while living in a Black urban area for 8 years
>8 years dissolved my progressive delusions down very slowly
>have white compassion and tolerance taken for weakness constantly
>realize the Sup Forums was right about niggers
>i learn about the press covering up their crimes
>the floodgates to National Socialism opened there after. I became open minded to the right wing for the first time

Gays fucked with my life and with my family

Fuck faggots. I hate them.

Some are alright, but their faggotry should not be included as a strong part of society.

Before Sup Forums

>Atheist
>Communist
>Long hair
>against white privilege

After Sup Forums

>Christian
>Conservative
>Short hair
>Enjoy white privilege.

You could say that Sup Forums change my life

I discovered No Agenda.

My parents were pretty left, and I grew up watching it take them nowhere.

I always knew that money and banks controlled the social context, but it took a while of ironically spouting "jews did 9/11"-tier memes to realise that Sup Forums was right and it really is the jews.

I'm Jewish.

I am the cause of your insanity.

What state?

It was liberals themselves that drove me away. I used to be an SJW then I saw how hypocritical and retarded they were. I then became a centrist and after browsing Sup Forums from a friend's suggestion, my inner conservative woke up.

I now work out a lot and continue my journey of self improvement

>>Realize that no one is coming to save us
FUCK.

Came to Sup Forums, lost a couple arguments, simple as that.

I realized that just because the fed can buy all the treasuries doesn't mean that the government deficit isn't a paramount problem.

>one of the few right wingers at school.
> rest were liberal or didn't care
>teachers were left wingers
>hated teachers and school so my distaste grew from commies.
>father would show me ww2 films/doco/toys in when I was young. Read heaps up on Germany as a kid.
>obsessed with atomic weapons.

But I was still beta socially. I was red pilled on politics, (maybe a few cucky things left)

>got GF
>she was an abusive cunt
>Read the Red Pill, Read Pol, Read Fit, commited to my hobby(now profession)
>stopped caring what others though, call friends out on their shit and when they're pussies. Gained weight/got ripped.

Sorta a mess of a post but POL and THE RED PILL fucking changed and saved my life. Can't be thankful enough. I've not been depressed since, even when you get really depressing shit here, at least you know it's a hard truth. And that's always better than being fed a false lie. It grounds you.

if you were raised in the "everyone gets a trophy george bush is evil" era you were definitely a liberal at one point

>polished leather

I've never known a moment of blissful ignorance since I was a child, despite growing up in a 100% white area

I just somehow knew. I was naturally disgusted and opposed non-whites when I saw them on the TV

I literally sat as a kid watching shock and awe in iraq gleefully grinning at the dead mudslimes and prayed to God every night to kill more.

That bloodlust has only grown in the past 15 years.