Sargon of Akkad has been called out as a closet marxist

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he's always said he was a classic liberal

What's wrong with marxism? I'm one

This guy must see commies coming out of the woodwork if he thinks Sargon's a marxist.

Didn't he say like a year ago, he was a Labour supporter?

Sargon never has been right wing. His point of view on social issues has always been classical liberalism despite the fact that he frequently puts emphasis on what's wrong with leftist discourse. His economic views being marxist are an exaggeration though.

pretty shitty move from computing forever guy
he cant debate and can think of argument only in comfotable situations

Spooky

he clearly isn't, stick your vids up your arse

you just answered your own question.

how did sargon ever get associated with conservative groups?

literally nothing.

People think there's some sort of "marxist conspiracy" in education but they just fail to realize there's a reason why educated people marxists. it's because it's correct.

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>why educated people marxists
people are marxists*

he is anti-sjw

hmmmmmmm really makes you think

ITT: nobody watches the video

Sargon already got BTFO a while ago, how new r u?

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yeah and that's all you'll ever do about it. just post a joke response whenever something is posted that you should actually think about. instead you mull over it with a joke and move on to the next thing that strikes your fancy.

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got famous for making antifeminist videos

"marxists are right (even though marx rejected marxism) and everyone else is wrong" needs nothing more than a joke response

have you even read capital? mull that over you fucking bellend

thread would be gone by the time I finish. I'm only 2 hours into the original video. But I was thinking as I watch "why the hell are they so off topic??"

He's a fat kike-loving quadroon.

>educated people marxists
>because it's correct

Any """"""educated"""""" Marxist knows this is false.

This desu. The cultural Marxism boogeyman is hilarious. Read Adorno.

He's certainly a fucking jew loving socialist.
>muh classical liberalism
Sargon, Adam Smith wasnt in favour of socialised healthcare and benefits, you retard.

modern marxists don't base the foundations of their beliefs around marx so your point is irrelevant.
you're equating all of marxism with marxist-leninism which is disingenuous

Scum

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No, its because Universities are cancerous and dominated by marxist teachers.

As for Marxism being correct, if 100 million dead in the last century (mainly from the working class proletariat) wont convince you to stop supporting something so counter to human nature as Marxism, I guess nothing will.

You sick fucks.

Have fun upholding a failed ideology.

Marxism hasn't been mainstream in academia for like decades.
There's a progressivist circlejerk in education, not a marxist one.

Cuckold who makes overly long video on low hanging fruit to get patreon money to feed his wifes son/

This fat cunt is economically inept.

That's 99% of Marxism right there.

>It's an hour and a half.
Fucking goddammit OP, now I've got to watch all of this shit because I don't believe CF would just chat shit for ninety minutes and not provide a single shred of evidence.

This had better be fucking good.

He's obviously a Marxist. He's a Labour voter. He took a political compass test and was in the left libertarian quadrant. He's supportive of the welfare state and that's why he opposes open borders. Also he thinks race is a social construct.

Frankfurter schule, buddy.

Socialism is a part of marxism, you stupid bastard. God I hate fucking Italians, ruining the entire EU economy with that fucktard Mario Draghi at the printing press.

No. He's anti-SJW thats it.

>tfw I'm too autistic not to watch the ~4 hour stream to get full context
I don't even like these guys

i've read aesthetics and politics and it was so much dribble. embarrassing, jewry of the highest order.

here's a tough task for you: elucidate your political views and desires

>Shitskin of Mossad

Marx said important things about the nature of the state and capital. very important things.

some groups in the 20th century took notions of equality and expanded them to include other things and that was what informed modern ideas about feminism and racism.

they started with "means of production" and it eventually evolved into "white privilege" and they took that and empowered it into law and the rest is history.

the fact is those opponents of Marx are defending their presumed power- usually old school nationalists who cling to their religion or at least the appearance of it ie. pol people.

notice that modern marxism - the new kind of marxism that includes 3rd wave feminism and black lives matter is actually SUPPORTED by the very wealthy.

there's qualities in there that are causing the issue and some focus should be put on that. its thriving off the assumption that it is EQUALITY and thus good. we all here know this is wrong.

some also want to revert to the middle ages or other dumb shit and those people are trolls and idiots.

linking to youtube videos is like the new version of citing wikipedia. it's embarrassing that people think it's credible or is in any way a reasonable support fro their argument
You're claiming universities are cancerous? Why? Because the educated have been drawn to Marxism and that goes against your beliefs? Is anything that doesn't support your way of thinking cancerous in your view?
>As for Marxism being correct, if 100 million dead in the last century
I'll repeat myself... that was Marxist-Leninism, not Marxism. I don't support revolution.
I'm not upholding Marxist-Leninism, I'm upholding Marxism which has never failed.
I believe that Communism is inevitable and that the advancement of technology will speed up the process of making that political system and future political systems viable. I desire this because I do not want "equal opportunity" I want "equal results".

Shame the White Death died before removing you from his homeland

>expecting someone who got famous via Gamergae to be right wing

Is this really a surprise? Most anti authoritarians still believe in Lefty ideologies, they just hate the way it's been enforced, melded and twisted in government and society.

This isnt history 101, stop posting this shit

This also applies to neo-nazis
They are also marxists

Anti-sjwism has completely jumped the shark. I can't tell you how many feminists on twitter now I see with bios like "lgbtqia+* awareness, #refugeeswelcome, #trans #imwithher" making jokes at each other about le triggers and safespaces. Anti-sjw faggots are pretty much all just Marxists that don't like the way some Marxists handle themselves.

>I believe that Communism is inevitable and that the advancement of technology will speed up the process of making that political system and future political systems viable.
that's not the revolutionary ideology called marxism, then; it's just a marxian view

>I want "equal results".
good luck

i think we'll be wiped out by jihadis sooner than reach post-scarcity by the way

I like Mike Enoch's definition of the Sargon fallacy. The Sargon fallacy is assigning equivalence to any groups that hold strong opinions. Ergo according to the Sargon fallacy SJWs and the Alt Right are both the same because they have strong views and consider race.

The reason it is fallacious is that not all opinions are equal. SJW premises are patently false. Racial and gender equality is biologically impossible. The Alt Right acknowledges this, but Sargon can't. Sargon needs to believe that people are equal because he interprets things according to muh enlightenment.

Le everyone who isn't ancap is a commie meme

Pls stop

I guess they missed couple smart socialists when they executed people with different opinions :^)
It's a good thing we're not fascists anymore

I like them in the lightest sense (as well as you can like a person without actually having ever met them), but more importantly I think that they're correct more often than not, so when one of them says the other is a Marxist or some kind of quasi-Marxist (an idea to which I and they both seem completely opposed) I don't really have a choice but to examine their argument and my own ideas (since I refined my own ideas in part thanks to these guys and people like them).

i dont got time right now to watch this, but i'll just say I learned what marxism was by watching sargon, I dont believe he could be a marxist cause he advocates for meritocracy all the time. He constantly is labeled a right winger cause of it though he has advocated for public schools and healthcare, which is the only disagreement i would have with him. but i do think you can still have a high quality society with those things, its just the welfare/foodstamps/publichousing that needs to be abolished.

Because they brainwash students with lies like: That all races are the same, that whites have inborn privilege, that whites must pay for the guilts of their past, the wage gap is real, that socialism is a workable system, that it's okay to silence opposing views.

nazis are fuckign Marxists
>Joos are oppressing me!
>National Socialism is totally not like any other form of socialism!

Saargon was also addressing the one issue that comes out of Capitalism, which still hasn't been resolved.

Massive wealth disparities always lead to revolutions. Always.

So how would Sup Forums create a stable, capitalist society that made sure the poorest wouldn't end up, eventually, overthrowing the elite by introducing marxism?

Marxism is pretty based. There is a reason it is called a party.

>whites must pay for the guilts of their past
sjw-types have more in common with catholics than they'd like to think, believing in heritable sin and all

>National Socialism is totally not like any other form of socialism!

But it's not you fucking idiot. According to you what even is national socialism? You realize that Hitler only adopted 'socialism' in the name to attract leftist voters right? I can understand you not liking the germans for what they did to poland but stop being retarded.

they don't though; being unable to secure your dinner results in revolutions

Have you ever gone to college? I graduated with a PhD in Psychology which is notorious for it's left leaning stances and I only experienced the wage gap argument throughout my time. Also, that was only mentioned in one of our texts and students discussed both sides of the argument with that topic like they did all other topics covered in the text. All the horror stories you guys hear about and post so much about online are fringe events that do not represent the typical experience of college students.

Hell is paved with good intentions.

Do people not realize what being a Marxist means? You don't have to be a communist or a socialist to be a Marxist. Most capitalists are considered to be Marxists because they're willing to award their workers certains rights to prevent them from rising up.

You shame your noble Mongolian ancestors.

He totally is.

He is at least a leftist sympathizer, and is scared of hard truths. Its the same reason he equates SJWs with alt-righters.

well the race issue was covered also, but only towards the opposite viewpoint: that there are differences between the races and cultures which is why cultural psychology is useful.

marxism is a revolutionary ideology, leafy boy

They do. Inborn sin is a tenant of both
-An ex-Catholic (went to Catholic schools until college)

no you are being retarded
Nazi means national socialism
They implemented socialism in nazi Germany
Hitler is a socialist
You have no idea about life in Nazi germany.
You had to prove you are Aryan by finding documents 3 generations back-
or you were a lower citizen , or just killed
If it was allowed to go on, it would go full blown North Korea, you are a useful idiot who bought in in what Hitler called "The big lie"

Yet it dominates all the most useless fields of education. It doesn't even dominate the most useful fields of social science(economics, history, philosophy).

Yes, I was majoring in Psychology until Junior year.

>Most capitalists are considered to be Marxists because they're willing to award their workers certains rights to prevent them from rising up.

And what did you mean by this?

if you experienced what you wrote that is not the typical experience

>nazis are fuckign Marxists

they absolutely were

mussolini was a marxist

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>beta male forever gets cucked live on steam.
> makes a two hour rage video

haha lost all respect for the guy.

Not really true. Marxism believes that a revolution is the inevitable outcome, but someone who is a Marxist doesn't have to believe in being a part of bringing about the revolution. Essentially a Marxist believes that the workers are abused under capitalism and that one day they will rise up.

In the traditional sense, the owners of the means of production recognize that under strict capitalism that they are contributing to the creation of a worker's revolution. Thus they give in to certain demands to prevent it from happening.

>I'll repeat myself... that was Marxist-Leninism, not Marxism. I don't support revolution.

Then what kind of special snowflake Marxist are you?

I am pretty sure Marxism came much later after a guy named Marx was born. So you telling me immortal kings from thousands of years ago were Marxists? I am pretty sure Marxists destroyed monarchy and established worker ownership instead of monarchy owning it all.

>mussolini
was a fascist not a socialist, and he wasnt a nazi you moron

Yeah but ultimately he draws a rabbit out of his ass and the proletariat goes to gulag.

Disparity is inevitable because it is natural. Some people are smarter and network better and they will always form the upper classes. Upper classes will take a larger share of the pie, but they might have noblesse oblige to help the less fortunate.

Marxism has upper classes too. For example the Prague Spring was a revolution against a Marxist government, but it began as a pogrom because the Marxist bureaucrats were predominantly Jewish. The revolution was instigated by their mistreatment of the populace.

The way to avoid revolution is a considerate government.

>was a fascist not a socialist
horseshoe theory, my man

Plain old generic Marxism. Both the leninists and I wanted the same thing but they believed a revolution was the only way to get it. I believe capitalism will eventually lead to socialism and eventually communism naturally without revolution. Which is why there's reason for people like me to stay active in the system. By promoting the advancements of socialism we are bringing utopia that much closer.

Marxists and socialists often cry "Not my Communism/Socialism" when the system fails. (See "totally not socialist" Venezuela)

i can totally see all the baristas and code ninjas taking to the barricades to secure the socialist order of ??????? so that ????? can be ??????? social ????? fair society for all ????? equality ?????? drumpf ?????? the workers the workers the workers ??????

*unsheathes le internationale*

looks like your days are numbered misogynist islamophobe scum.... open borders and great wages NOW

I sincerely doubt Sargon even know what Marxism is, so it's pretty doubtful that he is one.

And that situation is caused by massive wage gaps. We're already seeing Middle Class Brits living on 30k salaries who, if they lose their job, will end up losing their houses in the space of a few months. Most of the UK are literal wage slaves.

Revolutions have been stopped in their tracks by hands of god (diseases and sudden spikes in death rates) or by war, in order to balance the economy.

Surely there's a middle ground somewhere?

Goalposts man.

Free socialised abortions and cheap placates (drink, weed etc) for all. If you still have kids you cannot look after and abuse the substances then you get zero state help. Self selected social darwinism.

If you push someone far enough, they'll eventually push back. Never said it would work though. This is what separates a Marxist from a Communist, Socialist or Democratic Socialist.

>i believe in horseshoe theory

> Economics

I'll give you that. What I see in Economics was the general Keynesian dribble, but they'd also make some shit up about a part on "social goals" of the united states in which Equality was a huge thing. They also had to really stretch far and make up shit that wasn't true like "Capitalism is unable to provide healthcare, government intervention is needed" ... Even though the government is the reason healthcare is so high in the first place.

> History

I don't know if you've ever taken an 'Advanced Placement United States History' class, but it's all over the fucking place with the narrative of "Oppressive white population" and "A new diverse population", where they essentially kiss ass to diversity.

> Philosophy

Wouldn't know shit about that.

That's not the way it works at all.

>Neo liberalism
>Marxism
Jesus christ you alt right faggots really don't know anything about marxism/communism.

>By promoting the advancements of socialism we are bringing utopia that much closer.

Such as? Are hate speech laws a socialism? Is feminism a socialism? Antifa a socialism? Doesn't your reformism simply sustain capitalism?

Ok I realized what this debate is turning into. There are 2 distinct forms of Marxism.

Communism seeks to achieve Socialism by violent revolution.

Social democracy seeks to achieve Socialism by the ballot.

They both want the same end state, but disagree how to get there. Sargon is probably a social democrat.

To be clear I'm not a socialist and this isn't a defense of socialism. It's a clarification.

Socialism only ends with collapse. Eventually the parasites overwhelm the host, killing everyone involved -host and parasite.

Ok but Marxism inevitably leads to Marxist-Leninism.

Forget the hundred years of empirical data showing that any attempt at Marxist style economies failed miserably or the hundred years of coinciding neo classical economics that brought prosperity to basically everyone except those who tried communism and believe that this time we can do it right!

And if you honestly believe capitalism is that bad understand that even though there are some people who own more wealth than they should it doesn't really matter because in 50 years the average person will have a higher standard living than some of the richest do now.

I actually think nazis are on the left with facists and communists.
And at the end of right is ancap