DEVELOPMENTS 26th >withdraws from Menbeij amid Turkish pressure >Darayya agreement officially accepted by all Syrian parties >Syrian Army launches a massive counteroffensive in south Aleppo >Kerry pushes for peace between Houthis and Saudi-supported forces >UN accuses Saudi, Houthis of violating international law in Yemen >UN human rights chief calls for international investigation of abuses in Yemen’s civil war >Iraqi defense minister sacked as Mosul battle looms
I'm pretty sure that neither Assad nor the Daesh has 25k+ soldiers to throw at the turks.
Joshua Foster
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Brody Lopez
Implying that communist kurdroaches are innocent
Elijah Carter
turkey doesnt hide its main objective is to rekt YPG. first time in this conflict one actor is honest about its intentions.
Colton Taylor
Why does she look so European?
Jacob Sanchez
BOI HE GON DO IT
Brandon Martinez
She is from a Sunni Turkmen family
Now you realize Turks look European
Kayden Myers
ooh shit nigger
Jack Sullivan
lmao, fucking disgusting cuck germans
I'm so glad germany and austria will be an utter shithole in 20 years
feelz good
Mason Ortiz
>BIJI BIJI YPG :DDD EDITION >that picture
holy fucking kek
Ian Bailey
Everything in Turkey, east of Bursa, should be nuked.
Lucas Sanchez
I knew this was worth saving.
The question is will Turkey double-down on their support for 'moderates' or accept that there are no moderates and that Syria going full Libya would be just as bad for them.
Logan Bailey
But she's Assyrian?
Ryan Flores
Unrelated kind of
Do you think the more the U.S presses Russia in Syria the more likely a Crimea 2, electric boogaloo the return of Ivan and his tanks ft. Taking half of Ukraine
Joshua Miller
that kurd is looking native american as fuck
Leo Stewart
She was born in UK and raised there. Niggery makes niggers nigger, not the genes by themselves.
Aaron Parker
Basically yes. They are already sanctioned as much as possible, and obongo won't start ww3 now Putin holds all the cards on Ukraine
Benjamin Hall
It's already been doubling down. Massive weapons supplies in Latakia and Aleppo prove it. It will be just as bad for them, and yet these nonexistent moderates are fighting shoulder to shoulder with Turkish soldiers in Jarablus, lol.
Zachary Hernandez
And is probably going to have a similar fate.
Erdogan right now has no long-term plan. Not supporting moderats will anger US, more support will anger Russia. They will keep both options as long as possible. Also Syria going full Libya at least keeps the terrorist on the other side of the border
Ian Gomez
I'm not convinced they're not just using these useful idiots as a means to an end. Turkey seems to be getting pretty close with Russia and Russia wants a Syrian state intact. Turkey never had any real reason for wanting Assad gone. Now that relations between Turkey and NATO have cooled, they may just accept Assad remaining. Course if they try to pursue their 'Assad must go' doctrine then things will take quite a major escalation.
Joseph Baker
>Erdogan right now has no long-term plan. Not supporting moderats will anger US, more support will anger Russia.
Except Erdogan escalates support in spite of, not because of the US
Colton Reyes
>yet another pic of roaches fucking in his hard drive baka...
Kevin Mitchell
turkey will cut its support gradually. we cant stop sending weapons right away. assad will massacre them and they will blame turkey.
Jason Garcia
>Turkey never had any real reason for wanting Assad gone.
The main reason is that Erdogan represents the conservative Sunni plurality in Turkey and the Syrian opposition represents the same in Syria. The fates of the two are interlinked. A victory for Assad is a victory for the Turkish opposition as well. It's more or less a cross-border class struggle.
Russia sees Assad as a pawn, not a rook. Turkey is yet another asset Russia will look forward to dealing with. Russia has good relations with Saudi Arabia, and Turkey has good relations with Iran, yet they are each on opposite ends of this proxy war. Russia and Turkey are just deconflicting with each other while continuing their respective proxy wars inside Syria. It's bizarre but that's how it is.
The US and NATO are more interested in supporting the SDF as a bulwark against ISIS type groups than anything else. Turkey and Saudi Arabia are the main driving forces behind the Syrian conflict, but Saudi Arabia seems out of the loop given its dismal Yemeni war.
Thomas Allen
Novorossiya cantons in Ukraine & Moldova = Rojava cantons in Syria :^)
Ethan Watson
Turkey isnt KSA or Iran. We dont care about sects that much. Turkey is old school imperialist, only wants power and influence, doesnt care who brings it.
Yea because if they do we can support it with 100k+, can they?
William Walker
KSA is the one that is not sectarian, largely because its internal regime is safe where Turkey's actually has real opposition.
Turkey is not really sectarian either, but it is definitely based on demography. It has the same policy in a country like Egypt that is fully Sunni, backing the Islamists against Sisi. In this case, whether the opposition is Kurdish, Alawi/Alevi, or secular Sunni, they are all part of the class hostile to AKP pouvoir. That is why Turkey backs the Sunni plurality underclass in Syria. Demographically Syria is largely just an extension of Turkey.
Julian Lewis
>/sg/ >liking roaches
Tyler Evans
This is an acceptable outcome.
>The main reason is that Erdogan represents the conservative Sunni plurality in Turkey and the Syrian opposition represents the same in Syria.
Good point. I wonder if, after Assad's victory is complete, Erdogan will scale back the appeal to fundamentalism and try be a more modern unifying force for the Sunni in the region? Like making it clear he has the backs of other Sunni when they're genuinely being oppressed but not trying to genocide Shia? That'd be pretty sweet and ironically is almost what the US were trying to build (a moderate, unified Sunni force) when they set the stage for the Arab spring (see Seymour Hersh's 'The Redirection' in New Yorker magazine).
>Russia sees Assad as a pawn, not a rook.
I think Assad has become more important to Russia as this has rolled on. There's the naval base and the rebuilding of Syria that I'm sure Russia will take a lead in. There's also this
I'm sure Russia would much rather their ally Iran supplied gas to Europe than one of the US's bitches.
Jacob Clark
this one is too slow
Ryan Bailey
nope see:
Cameron Carter
>comparing the Slavic master race to Turds
wewlad, are all Bedouin Arabs retarded?
Matthew Nguyen
and making another thread will make it less slow? you're one dumb motherfucker
Jeremiah Cooper
Pathetic and autistic
Jonathan Evans
disgusting:
Liam Cooper
stay away roach
Nathaniel Hill
t. keko ehmed from diyarbakir
Easton Bell
You are a disappointment to the human kind.
Christopher Nelson
Kurds aren't Slavic though, they might be be the master race but not Slavic :/
Gavin Green
What makes you so butthurt anyways? Stop fucking threads up
Juan Bailey
no breh, she's turkmen
even her official name is "esme" not asma, its a turkmen name root "es" meaning wind/breeze
asyrians look more like italians and spanish
turkmen are pretty pale with dark brown hair eyes
Brody Green
arab... as turkey gets flooded with arabs too right now.^^ turks will also lose their status as worst integrateable minority in europe/germany to arabs ;D
Joseph Foster
Eh the extremism of those in Syria is largely born from the brutality of the war (whereas ISIS just inherited this chauvinism towards all non-Sunnis from Saddam). In Libya there are two governments formed from anti-Qaddafi rebels; one is pro-MB in Tripoli and one is pro-Sisi in Benghazi, and both are fighting jihadists with Western support. I expect there will be a similar rebel civil war in Syria against the jihadists if they ever carve out an area for themselves in the north or east of the country.
It won't be pluralistic though. It'd resemble more Iraq today, with Sunni militias instead of Shia ones, and Turkey instead of Iran as the foreign sponsor. Maybe in a few years Iraq will find peace, who knows.
Dylan Campbell
this is now a qtkurd thread
Parker Robinson
Since the people came to Turkey was our citizens 100 years ago and still over 500k Syrian citizens have relatives living in Turkey with Turkish identity, it's not that big of a deal for us since our cultures are similar. Most of them speak Turkish and everybody works somehow.
Brody Walker
arabs are more assimilateable. they lack strong national identity we have. the ones in turkey already claim they are turkmen, not arab and try to learn turkish.
From day one International Jihad™ and the MB were encouraged to Syria. They were always going to be the bulk of the opposition cause organic opposition to Assad was never going to be enough. You're right that Syria would resemble Libya if Assad and the state fell but I feel the more secular of the factions would be weaker in Syria post collapse than they are in Libya. As the Libya, the pro-MB/MB government are pretty far from the secular rebels we were meant to believe we were supporting. The MB, especially since Sisi took over in Egypt are getting more desperate and more closely aligned with Al-q (in all its forms)
So we better hope that Assad can do it.
Oliver Ward
Rude ;_;
Jackson Wood
Arabic for West of Elbe, Turcic for East, Somali for Scandynavia, Tatar for Russia and Paki for Britan.
