The alt-left is hereby defined to include some of, but not limited to, the following: >promotion of common ownership >support for state funded healthcare and/or education >extreme disdain for identity politics, e.g. feminism >strict adherence to facts and stats when deciding policy >anti-establishment; supports minimising the state >disdain for thugs, but support for socialist protesters >supports individual liberties, e.g. free speech, free expression >supports monogamy >doesn't actively encourage race-mixing >extreme disdain for Islam >anti-capitalist >anti-authoritarian
>>support for state funded healthcare and/or education >>anti-authoritarian
Jason Lee
Also >anti-Soviet >acknowledges biological differences of the sexes
Private property isn't an individual liberty of a lot of leftists, but personal property is. Do you think that school should be free until 18 and then it switches to you pay for everything? Yikes
Josiah Brown
"to a lot" not "of a lot", oops
Isaac Lee
>school >free What are taxes?
Adrian Collins
What is abolition of money and wageslaving?
Julian Reyes
>against open borders and free movement >anti-authoritarian
Mason Ross
Never said against free movement in the far future, but i don't personally believe we should open all borders right now with such a large disparity in global wealth, it will lead to hordes of dindus flooding the west
Jose Carter
Here. (((multiculturalism))) and (((capitalism))) are the two biggest threats to society- both intrinsically linked.
Cooper Smith
Agreed: homogeneous societies are divided, the aim is to unite the proletariat: easier to do without these divides
Jayden Hernandez
You just made up a contrarian ideology. You want to minimize the state, but you also want to have state funded health and education (while having free speech?), 'fact-based' policymaking, anti-Islamic defensive measure, anti globalist measure. All while being 'anti capitalist' and 'anti authoritarian'. It doesn't make any sense. You need to stop thinking you are a unique and individual person with valuable thoughts. You are nothing more than a dangerous, brainless little Marxist drone. You're so Marxist you come to Sup Forums, steal the loglines of half the views here, then slap some classic lefty virtueviews on (free speech, anticapitalism). You are literally mentally ill and stuck in a sort of mania.
Julian Ramirez
The alt left is communism and marxism.
Dominic Ortiz
What is contrarian? You have just listed some bullet points in the OP. I personally support state funded healthcare and education (((FOR NOW))) until socialism and eventually communism removes the need for the state to control such things. No contradiction.
Dominic Brooks
>support expanding state provided healthcare & education >supports minimizing the state
This is what's called double-think.
You need to be over the age of 18 to visit this website.
Bentley Watson
You're alt-left when you despise the practices and control of globalists, but want to be a faggot about it.
We've got a good thing going here. One of the most corrupt globalist political machines just condemned us yesterday. Better that we stay decentralized, and not bogged down by fucking semantics.
I agree with most of the things you listed. I'm still not going to identify as anything, especially when user. This is how we're winning the meme war. We just need to seek out normal faggots and allow kek to use his meme power, so they'll say to themselves "wow, really makes you think".
I'd rather be identified as pic related by our political enemies than ANYTHING leftist at this point.
Jack Parker
>a fucking leaf
I don't see how anti-islam and anti-globalism is incoherant. Mass migration to the west is justifiied under the economic model of capitalism. Read pretty much any economists views on mass migration (i.e, africa and middle east moving to Europe, USA, Canada, Aus since theres no movement the other way) and they'll say its great since it "grows" economies and muh GDP.
Basically the obsession with money and endless "growth" aligns with open borders and capitalist needs for cheap labour and worker drones.
Eli Kelly
>alt left aren't you just communists? That is the status quo.
Joshua Nguyen
There is no such thing as the alt-left. The "alt-right" exists because it encompasses a wide range of stigmatized ideals and ideologies which were systematically purged from mainstream political discourse. Meanwhile, openly professing communists hold tenured university positions funded by taxpayer money.
Juan James
Please cletus, explain to me how the status quo is anything even resembling communism without using "cultural Marxism" or "sjws" as a part of your argument. Welfare capitalism is still capitalism you fucking mong.
Evan Ortiz
Fuck off and die.
Brody Rivera
The state's interference in people's private lives, e.g. the proposed censoring of porn in the UK, the right to choose religion (or irreligion), free speech, etc. should be minimised, but there is currently a dichotomy between "the state leaves people's private property alone" and "capitalism is allowed to exploit the workers" and I would choose the former.
Benjamin Myers
This is called communism.
You are just lefty-pol faggot.
Brandon Allen
Separate strains of the same Whig virus. The distinctions barely matter.
Ryan Flores
>argue within the confines an argument using these arbitrary rules. Fixed that for you.
Connor Perry
Wrong. My entire political wing has been hijacked by tumblrinas. The left needs an alt-left.
Adrian Thompson
>arbitrary rules So completely disregarding the actual definition of the word and framing it as something it's not then being corrected is an arbitrary rule now?
Nathaniel Murphy
Tumblrinas are the alt-left.
James Richardson
Literally no opinion you professed will get you thrown out of polite society. You aren't "alternative." Stop trying to be one of the cool kids.
Charles Martin
I was with you until you started going racist. I do though wish there was a party like you described minus the racism
Nolan Smith
The state and common ownership go hand in hand. You cant be left and bot buy into the communist socialist bullshit.
Joseph Ward
Alt-left doesnt exist. Left is left.
Connor Gutierrez
Honestly, gladly will join alt left but you have to have some serious autism wanting to create names like "alt left" or "alt right". Just edgy as fuck bro, i'm glad just calling myself a leftist for now.
Levi Harris
my views on women and multiculturalism? sorry lad but the alt-right is wrong yet again
Where is the racism? I don't think race-mixing should be discouraged but it shouldn't be encouraged either imho.
Nope. The state enforces contracts of private ownership. Don't want someone on your property? The police will take care of them...
Jaxson White
> > anti-capitalist
only anti-capitalist meaning pro-public services
most corporations are anti-capitalist meaning anti-regulation, anti-competition, anti-choice.
Jose Barnes
i thought the alt-left were neo-stalinists
Ayden Parker
>im a libertarian except we steal from the rich and give to the poor!
Bentley Myers
Reminder that there is no such thing as an alt-right, and there was never anyone identifyng with such a term. Why has no one said this itt is beyond me.
Oliver Long
You need to come out of your SJW bubble if you think those will get you thrown out of polite society at large.
Blake Baker
this
what OP's posting is basically reddit liberals
Daniel Barnes
What is communism mate? Its the complete common ownership. Everyone gets the same shit and those who have more haventhe giant super state take it away. Less government means it focuses on the state level not the federal level every state will pick and choose based on their needs. Thus more freedom.
Henry Nelson
>it encompasses a wide range of stigmatized ideals and ideologies which were systematically purged from mainstream political discourse. That's the common factor.
Wyatt Murphy
HAHAHAHA
Adrian Barnes
You guys are useful idiots to me
Corbyn undermines the Labour Party. And I like him for that.
But don't expect my vote.
Camden Morris
this topic just proves that leftists are fucking retarded, the farther let you go the more ridiculous the ideas, leftists live in a fucking fantasy land.
Xavier Lee
Alt-left are SJWs, get the fuck out.
t.progressive socialist
Hunter Perez
so you're a communist
wow so radical, not like every college professor in the Western world pushes communism on their students
Camden Cooper
The "alt-rigt" term was conned by media outlets to categorize everything that is different from their globalist view, and then using this to vilify a campaign from an upcoming potus. There is no such thing as an "alt-right", and the sooner you realize this the sooner you will understand the plot.
Adam Torres
Corporations are to capitalism what gaming clans are to Xbox LIVE.
Those are to the alt-left what neo-nazis are to the alt-right.
Well in the case of capitalism existing it is the preferred outcome.
I'm anti SJW.
I am a left Communist to be specific lad.
Most "liberal college faggots" hate Islamophobia, whereas I am unashamedly Islamophobic because it is a bourgeois ideology, and I support Brexit.
David Stewart
Fuck off commie pinko scum
Wyatt Flores
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Jeremiah Diaz
it baffles me why does no one btfo the OP with this common information instead of discussing a false ideology or even setting the record clear. Makes you wonder if you're all just newfags from cnn
Landon Price
>is a progessive socialist aka SJW >makes fun of himself
kek you're killing me over here you stupid leaf chink
Luis Peterson
That pic is categorically false. Especially the trivializing of genocide. White genocide is real. Whites are being replaced demographically by other races. This is textbook genocide.
Brody Rivera
>anti-capitalist
Dropped. Seriously, how stupid people are these days?
>alt-left Isn't that just the spawn of post-crisis occupy wall street anonimoose? Like, I have a friend that believes in the Venus Project and I just call him a dirty commie, is the 'alt left' similar?
My God, I've been a nationalist since I was 13 years old why can't people just see the light already?
Elijah Martinez
The problem with the white genocide narrative is that it sounds so pathetic when you say that white girls are being tricked into fucking non-whites thus breeding out the white race.
It may be true, but you can't really explain it to people without making white males look pathetic in the process.
Carson Walker
>strict adherence to facts >'left'
rip in peace sides
Samuel Harris
Fuck you, youre not starting some alt-left meme here to counter hillarys speech. We're not having it
Josiah Morris
there is no difference, progressives are just proto-SJWs
they are the monster spawned from your gay ideology
Matthew Allen
That's not it at all. We are being flooded with non white immigrants who then each have six kids-all of whom are now American citizens.
If we stop the god damn flow of non white immigrants, this wouldn't be happening. The government isn't doing shit, because it's the entity which is trying to genocide whites.
Charles Bailey
>support common ownership >support more tate funding >supports minimizing the state >individual liberties >anti authoritarian >lefty socialist
Holy shit you actually truly unironically don't even know how stupid you are do you?
Nicholas Allen
I hate Hillary and I would vote Trump if I were an American. I don't agree with either of them but he would at least BTFO the normie left.
serbia pls
I support common ownership, but until then the state needs to help those less fortunate, e.g. the disabled, people born into modern western poverty, etc. The state can still be for many liberties, but private property is not one of them. Gtfo with your fat cat ideology. You probably aren't even rich so why would you support those bourgois scum? (Replace the word bourgeois with jew and you will probably agree.
Jeremiah Jones
>abolishen of money
Holy shit never mind my previous question, you're clinically retarded. Abandon thread everyone
Luke Taylor
No, there's two parts to white genocide theory. First is a flood of immigration, and second is the promotion of interracial relations, usually involving white people.
If white people continued to breed with other whites, then it wouldn't matter how many non-whites there are. We wouldn't be a majority but we also wouldn't face a threat of extinction.
Nathaniel Hall
If they can label us, they can control us. It's how meme magic works. We lose all power if we lose the chaos of anonymity. It's part of why Occupy Wallstreet ultimately was co-opted.
If someone asks what the alt-right is, tell them you don't know. You don't think it's real. You've never seen them. Because it's true. This is a made up label that they've set up on the table and they're hoping we're stupid enough to put it on ourselves. Like an invisible man putting his own head in the noose.
Even kek approved of my last post.
Jeremiah Price
>support for state funded healthcare and/or education >anti-establishment; supports minimising the state
wht?
Jace Brown
alt-leftie checking in when do we strike?
Kevin Wood
I don't think we face a threat of extinction, we face a threat of losing control over our countries and communities. That of course will lead to an existential threat, because then it will turn to full scale murderous genocide.
Gavin Perez
let me explain it to you in words even a chav can understand: we radically change the way taxes are allocated. instead of giving bailouts to banks, tax breaks to oil companies, and trillions to arms dealers, we instead invest the tax money into improving quality of life for the other 99% of our citizens. we can still easily get rid of state institutions that are unnecessary, like DEA, NSA, etc.
Asher Rogers
I've been over this too many times. These services should be nationalised until common ownership arrives. What is so difficult about it?
>muh taxes Resources and access to them (money) are not individual liberties, porky.
Ryan Perry
The alt-left is just national socialism, which a lot of people here support.
Brayden Cooper
this thread turned me ancap
Gavin King
you're dreaming
Thomas Gomez
Yep, that's why there's so much triggered JIDF in this thread
Alexander Jones
Not the debate at hand.
Jack Hughes
If I desire a centrist state with socialized healthcare/education and such, a transparent hybrid direct/representative democracy, but otherwise as much freedom and as little government meddling in the lives of individual citizens as possible, am I alt-left?
Basically I want the state to exercise controll on specific issues where it's actually warranted, but leave citizens to their own devices otherwise.
Benjamin Rodriguez
Haha your idealist view is laughable. It would never work. Giving money to the poor only causes short term growth. The rich are whom open business and create jobs.
Luis Rodriguez
>modern western poverty which is nothing compared to poverty elsewhere around the world? wanna know why? CAPITALISM, you fucking retard.
Colton Bailey
sage
Stupid pasta
Nolan Campbell
>open business and create jobs You're living in the 50's. Automation has changed everything. The rich invest in capital that employs very few, other than imported h1b labor.
Christopher Cook
>everything is automated For manufacturing, sure, but there are plenty of industries that will not be automated for quite some time. This is why you need an actual skill useful to society, not study your passion and then expect to get paid to do fuck all.
Hunter Smith
>>anti-capitalist >>anti-authoritarian
you are retarded, commie
authoritarian violence is the only way to make socialism work
Jacob Bennett
No, you are just a centrist cuck, no offence. The alt left are moderate- to far-leftists who despise the SJW phenomenon, lad :^)
>your idea is bad >(gets shown how it's not bad) >heh, it's impossible though, kid kys
One million people in the UK had to use food banks in 2015 thanks to conservatism. People can't support themselves. It doesn't matter where this happens, it's bad everywhere.
Wrong, look at manufacture in the third world.
Carter Sanders
>One million people in the UK had to use food banks in 2015 thanks to conservatism [citation needed] >manufacture in the third world Yes, it's not automated because third world labor is cheaper than automation. I was talking about western industries, and I was discrediting the notion that "every job is automated".
>The "alt-rigt" [sic] term was conned [sic] by media outlets
Wrong. Richard Spencer coined it years ago, newpleb.
Landon Diaz
>UK has an obesity problem >Low income families can get free food >Usage of this system is spun as "poor, starving families that can't get by in this hyper-capitalist society!" Give me a fucking break.
Jack Sanchez
I'd probably identify as alt-left. Deport all the foreign leeches and reform our healthcare system to give some public competition to the insurance company monopolies. Profit motive isn't always a good idea in the land of crony capitalism and trademark abuse. Oh, and fuck our military spending and foreign aid. America First.
I'd also tell all the anti-gun, pro-hate speech libs to fuck off.
I love how Sup Forums acts like this I'd some dramatic double think when their own pathetic "small government" party hasn't balanced a budget in decades and started the last two REALLY expensive wars. Oh, and meddling in people's bedrooms. Small government my ass. Face it, most people support a seemingly random hodge podge of issues.
