Doesn't being leftist just mean you're a nice person who cares for others?

Doesn't being leftist just mean you're a nice person who cares for others?

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Nice guy Stalin - giving people free winter survival-themed camps

Religious people are the same thing except sometimes they understand that accepting everybody even the sickos hurts the community so they should be hanged.

Why would you care for a lazy person?

It means that you are a hypocrite that instead of self improving gives in into emotion and desires to quickly satisfy or relief himself.

No leaf, it means on the surface it looks like you care but in reality, it's to another selfish end. Leftism and Marxism are lies, to trade one power structure for a more sinister and evil one.

Being a leftist means you're gay, just like me. :3

Are you a cute Canadian boy, OP?

I believe so. That's why I voted for Trudeau! (He's also incredibly handsome.)

No it means you are a weak person that can't fend for themselves so you want daddy government to steal wealth from others and give it to you.

So people born into poverty are weak and deserve to die from starvation? Huh, totally not evil

all of humanity was born into poverty.

How many threads does this Canadian start per day?

>Doesn't being leftist just mean you're a nice person who cares for others?

No, it means you are stupid enough to do the thing that sounds nice while ignoring the consequences.

You are also stuck in slave morality, as there is no good and evil only good and bad outcomes.

Slaves should kill themselves.

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No it means you're a person who pretends to be a nice person to look good but then doesn't actually care about them.

Honestly though there are probably some real good hearted people who are leftist, but many of them are also probably very naive about the world around them. Like little kids who don't understand money who wants to give free stuff to everyone.

No, it means you let the (((media))) and (((education))) dictate your thoughts.

No because the overwhelming majority only convince themselves that they're 'good people' (read: proud self-absorbed masochists) in order to further themselves socially with people who think like them. They're the most selfish people out there and they don't actually give a fuck about anyone else's well being, they just want people to think that they do because it makes them feel good.

You care for others with OTHER PEOPLES MONEY PROPERTY AND FREEDOMS

No, it means you're a person that only cares for imaginary people and hates real people.

They don't care until news outlets tell them to care. Ask any one of them whether they'd be willing to give up Netflix or Starbucks to buy water purifiers for poor ass African kids

So by actually paying taxes to ensure that everyone is covered by health care, and that there are enough government programs to adequately help poor people, they are actually hurting these people? And by your measure it's better to let poor people die because of a lack of food or money?

There is no other way than through taxation. It's the only fair way to spread the burden

>Only leftists pay taxes

Yes, but only if you define "others" as being shitskins and only if you define "nice" as being exclusively "nice to shitskins, welfare queens, faggots, and other loser degenerates."

You're clearly intelligent and capable of understanding moderately complex issues.

Who protects the weak? The orphans, the lame, those who have no voice to speak up?
I understand the whole pull yourself up by your bootstraps, I'm a living example of it, but I'm a healthy young man who was fortunate enough to have parents who provided an ample education and the opportunity to build a solid foundation before venturing off into the world.

Some people don't even have an opportunity. I'm doing well,so I try to help out people who ask for help,I yu to pay it forward.

On Sup Forums it seems like this is week behavior, some of you snub your noses at this. We only made it this far as humanity because of our compassion.

Yes, I inderstand government programs can breed reliance on te state, but if we have the means to ensure no one starves, then why can't that be a good thing?

No matter what system we have, we will always have parasites and predators. But we shouldn't let the actions of a few stop out compassion to help the many. And if our collective government allows a proper and efficient system to help the most people in need, I feel we, not just as Americans, but as brothers in humanity, should continue to work to perfect this system.

Left wing people also have to deal with the societal influence and legislation of right wingers. It's a 2 way street.

No, being a leftist means you have no respect of property rights and believe in big government.

No, it means you want to appear nice.

It means you are a stupid person who puts some random person's wellbeing om the same level as the wellbeing of those you know and love.

> We only made it this far as humanity because of our compassion.

Name one country that prospered because of compassion and not from murdering/enslaving weaker people.

And that raises taxes that effect normal people to care for people who wont pay it back and don't care or just want it to find someone else to pay for their bad mistakes. Why should a normal citizen pay to take care of people who shouldn't be in the country in the first place to have their kids here and give them a free house? Or pay for someone who thinks feminist dance therapy is a good major to take. It's ridiculous.

Yea, you care so hard you become blind to the reality of whats really going on.
I see snuggly teddy bears in pic related

no it means your overcompensating for not thinking every one is equal

I am all for helping those struggling, just through voluntary means like through charity and the local community.

The good thing about local communities coming together to help those in need is they will be able to determine who actually needs help and who just needs to get their act together because they will actually know the people personally.
Charities have the ability to get to know people personally depending on how they are structured.

However, to the gov't you are just another faceless statistic.

I care about others but I don't care about all others. I only care about people I like.

It's a give and take. The community thing is not practical and sloppy.

taxes hurt the poor the most. there is no system that have put more people out of poverty than the free market, small government, low tax systems. the problem with leftists is that they see government as a savior "More public jobs, more healthcare, more social programs. MORE THIS. MORE THAT" and the population has to sustain that with their tax dollars. the people sustain that machine and not the other way around. with high taxes, small business get hurt badly and jobs start going away. there is no coincidence that everyplace that is a shithole in america (black communities) and latin american countries have been run by commies/socialists/democrats. they are villans of the private sector. their policies hurt the poor the most. poor people became dependent on government handouts, but the only way for them to rise up economically is by cutting government spending, lower taxes and let small and big business bring businesses to those places. leftists have good intentions but dont realize that their policies hurt more the same people that they are trying to help.

People who couldn't fend for themselves managed to survive before the welfare state. Charity, church organizations, family, begging, finding a creative way to make money despite your disability or problems. People aren't going to start starving in America if we gradually phase out handouts.

Furthermore, entitlements have caused more problems than they are purported to solve. They destroyed poor black and white families by usurping the role of the man as breadwinner and created the cycle of poverty (fatherlessness) that afflicts blacks.( blacks where doing almost as well as whites prior to the new deal). They disincentivize work, creativity and ingenuity.

I could go on, but phone posting.

Amen.

Yes. Hand-outs are what made every great nation great. Let's see, how many socialist nations aren't drowned with poor starving people with poor services? Oh? None of them? I guess being leftist only works to make you feel good about yourself... when you're not in a socialist nation.

>The community thing is not practical and sloppy.

No its very efficient, unless we destroy the nuclear family. If you think community aid doesn't work then I must assume you come from a city with a high single mother rate.

We know from experience that when you have these giant gov't social programs they are best case scenario unsustainable and counter productive, trapping generations of families in poverty (urban ghettos) or worst case they have tremendous civil abuses (the war on drugs).

Insinuating that rightists aren't nice people who care for others?

I guarantee you do not have effective and comprehensive universal healthcare and education because of your town.

I live in a small town, grew up in another small town. It's really nice, but the charity from neighbors does not replace modern nation state staples like universal healthcare and education.

Reading this almost made me cum

>a nice person who cares for others

Yes, a nice person who cares so much about others that they vote for the government to steal, under threat of violence, someone else's stuff and give it to whomever you think should have it.

That rambling Brazilian really blew your mind huh?

You mean the same universal healthcare that is over budget in most countries leading them on the verge of bankruptcy and having poor quality levels and poor service due to rationing caused by limits on resources?

Do you mean the same public education system in the US that spends more per capita then another other country but is failing the students in the poorest communities that need it most?

No. It means you hate yourself and the idea of self-responsibility so much that you are willing to sacrifice the rights and/or lives of anyone who doesn't share your wetdream of being babysat your whole life. A useful idiot, castrated of one of the most basic drives in the world, the survival instinct.

I can see the community thing in a small town in TX, in fact a co-worker was just telling me of the 100k raised for a local musician's cancer treatment the other day. But what about the big cities where no one knows their neighbor? Or the state asylums where the impaired are stuck for life? We have to have a system we can all pay fairly into to help those who can't get that help. Taxes.
Of course I hate the misuse of tax dollars just as much as the next guy, and I hate that there's an Orthodox Jew in upstate NY living in a million dollar home, with 10 kids, collecting welfare and benefits, and still in Yeshiva at 40 years old. Those fucks game the system.

But I still want to make sure that little Tyron has hot lunch at public school because his crack ho mom can't bother to cook for him.

What we have right now isn't perfect, but I don't think any of us should write off our social programs, we gotta keep working at them, make them better, and By voting and talking to our elected officials we can get there in time.

The United States objectively does not have Universal Healthcare, Universal Healthcare is the norm in the developed world. Most people in developed nations believe that guaranteeing healthcare to all their fellow countrymen is an important and fundamental aspect of modern societies.

the United States is an exception and it shows. Our healthcare lags behind to an embarrassing degree unless you're rich.

it's all just virtue signaling

Explain.

That broken system of the US is still responsible for funding almost 4X more medical breakthroughs than any other country, allowing people to recover at a higher rate from once terminal conditions more than any other country. The socialist system in other countries is definitely more affordable but lower quality and is being propped up by the investments made in the US.

The US system would be even more affordable if companies didn't have so much business friendly regulations in place enforced by the government.

forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2011/03/23/the-most-innovative-countries-in-biology-and-medicine/#93628ad115d3

No, it means you want people to think you're a nice person who cares for others.

Replace 'nice' with 'naive'.

Except CIS white christian males, they're the devil.

So number of publications = contribution

We have no way of knowing the value of those contributions.

I would rather our nation or my state get universal healthcare at the sacrifice of more publications on the subject.

I keep seeing this and I've yet to see someone explain how this is anything except projection.

Ever notice how they support all this bullshit like black lives matter or and are always whining about women being oppressed, but when it comes to actual problems like hunger and poverty in undeveloped countries or actual oppression of women in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East they hardly even care? If they were actually trying to change the world for the better there'd be a lot less looting, rioting and marching around cities naked and at least more attention brought to actual injustice on a global scale.

You have a higher population that's not fair. I agree with OP people shouldn't die just because they were born to the wrong family. No kid should have to starve because conservatives are greedy and don't want to pay taxes.

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Leftism guarantees misery for the most amount of people

Have you heard this quote? "If You Are Not a Liberal at 25, You Have No Heart. If You Are Not a Conservative at 35 You Have No Brain"

Yes, unless theyr're racists, then its ok to harass the shit out of them.
Also we control what is considered racist and what not and have lowered the threshold so much antthing can be racist :D

Does this mean I've never had a heart, Satan?

>1 dead person
>For the thousands that have died from cancer in the USA due to finances.

Let's take feminism as an example. What does it mean to be a feminist? Oftentimes when I tell leftists I'm not a feminist, they will ask me "well do you believe that men and women should be treated fairly?" Once I say "obviously", they'll respond with "then you're a feminist". But I'm not a feminist.

Feminism is a political movement that is much bigger and more complex than one singular and extremely vague belief like "Men and women should be treated fairly". Certain people will do things "as a feminist" that I disagree with. Maybe I disagree with what most feminists think "being treated fairly" means. Maybe the feminist movement as a while decides that it's not possible to be sexist against men, and I choose to disagree with that.

The point is that feminism is not an objectively good thing. It's a complicated political movement that presents itself as being an objectively good thing. And if anyone tries to argue that it's not, the movement will label you a sexist, racist, homophobe subhuman who doesn't deserve to be considered. Which is actually a pretty hateful and (in my opinion) bad thing to do.

Leftists are the same way, just about everything. Like OP said, "being a leftist just means you're a nice person who cares for others"... except it doesn't. Nothing in this world is objectively good. All things should be criticized. If you wrap your political movement in a claim that "We're the good guys! We're so progressive! Don't disagree with us or you're a literal nazi!" Then I have to wonder why you're so unwilling to listen to others.

From where I'm standing, you've either deluded yourself into thinking that you can't be wrong about anything. Or as the other user said, you don't actually care if you're right, you just want other people to think you're a nice person who's got everything figured out.

Why are all modern drugs developed in the USA?

The only people liberal pigs care for are themsElves.

Of course, not all of them think they do what they do just to make themselves look better. That said, they still close themselves off to the truth. Most of the "problems" leftists have are red herrings designed to obfuscate what's really going on. Remember the transgender bathroom thing that blew up earlier this Summer? Before leftists started whining about it, no one cared. It was always just a given that people would use the bathroom they felt most comfortable with, for their sake and others'. No one went around calling out trannies walking into bathrooms yelling "you can't piss in here!", unless they were incredibly unconvincing (we're talking "females" with full beards here). It's just another distraction (((they))) decided to cook up.

Country A: Once a cure for cancer is created you may only make 5% profit over manufacturing cost.

Country B: Once a cure for cancer is created you can have a monopoly on the drug for x years and make as much profit as you want.

Which country is going to develop a cure for cancer first?

That's irrelevant.
We're talking about deaths due to health care, and the USA takes the cake.

Don't try and paint it a different color. People are dying because of the system currently in place. There are benefits, but you can't ignore the cons.

there is no cure for cancer

free market country C invents it and keeps it as a trade secret until someone reverse engineers it and the market really takes off

Wow m80 really makes my Brit bong

If the USA doesn't create a market incentive to create new drugs then we will retard medical progress which will end up costing more lives in the long run. People wont go bankrupt though...

No. Being leftist means you are delusional and believe lies. Being right means you avoid delusion and embrace truth.
I'm a nice person but I'm not going to buy into delusions like the leftists do.

My entire life philosophy revolves around embracing truth and shunning all delusions. No matter how horrible the truth may be. And that brought me to Sup Forums, so what does that tell you... Sup Forums is always right.

What group of people does the following describe best?

"Why, we don’t even know what living means now, what it is, and what it is called? Leave us alone without books and we shall be lost and in confusion at once. We shall not know what to join on to, what to cling to, what to love and what to hate, what to respect and what to despise. We are oppressed at being men — men with a real individual body and blood, we are ashamed of it, we think it a disgrace and try to contrive to be some sort of impossible generalised man. We are stillborn, and for generations past have been begotten, not by living fathers, and that suits us better and better. We are developing a taste for it. Soon we shall contrive to be born somehow from an idea."

Quite the opposite.

Think about every leftist you know, are they self absorbed and do everything for someone elses recognition regardless of who it hurts. Their decisions are based on emotion rather than anything else.

Why would someone reverse engineer the drug if there was no monetary incentive to do so. It cost a lot of money to reverse engineer a drug. Also Country C places trade sanctions on all the countries stealing trade secrets.

Sounds like the rambling of a mentally ill leftist Jewface fagbuddy

Muh muh America. We have two pharmaceutical companies in the top 5. Just like you. It has nothing to do with politics, but specialization in industry.

>The daily mail
Puh-lease

>nice
>cares

leftists really are liberal with the english language

No. The simplest definition is a person who thinks that logic can contradict data.

Communities can feed their own hungry.

When a government gets involved, anything it does is by force. It will feed the hungry by holding you at gunpoint.

>People are hungry, pay this tax.
>I don't consent to this. I resist.
>Then you're under arrest. Go to jail.
>I don't consent to this. I resist.
>Then die.

That's how any government plan plays out.

Roche is headquartered in Basel, so you might think that all of its drugs are created in Switzerland. Actually, many of Roche’s biggest blockbusters were born in the USA at Genentech, its South San Francisco based subsidiary.

> Doesn't being leftist just mean you're a nice person who cares for others?
Until those others think in a way you disagree with or don't like, then they're racist sexist xenophobic misogynist fat-shaming shitlords

Here are some sweety pie liberal love bugs right here!!

False altruism.

Obviously not the far left B. Option.

And I should not be robbed to pay for the result of someone else's stupid and careless decision to have a kid they could not afford to support. Just because two lowlifes have some drunken sex on a Saturday night should not give them an 18 year claim on my earnings. Two scumbags have unprotected sex,, therefore other people will be forced to give them hundreds of thousands of dollars? Fuck you.

its called humanist

>Doesn't being leftist just mean you're a nice person who cares for others?
Taking money from some (me), to be nice to others? fuk off