Rare and ancient languages edition : >Do you learn a rare language ? Which one ? >Are you interested in rare/ancient languages ? why ?
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I had to study Latin in middle school and had to study old Greek during my philosophy bachelor but wasn't interested in any of them because it was imposed to me for no real reasons. Although now I would be more interested in studying them cause I'm way more interested in ancient civilisations.
Will probably have to learn some old Korean and maybe some old Chinese too for my studies it will be quite interesting too.
What are some good media in spanish to consume on a daily basis? The news papers on the wiki are not that good, desu. I'll try the webcons later when i have the time.
Thomas Martinez
Is it difficult to find books to learn Latin with in France? Here most large bookstores have latin coursebooks
Owen Hernandez
britbonger here Anyone wanna help me practice russian? Willing to help you practice English as well
Aлeкcaндpдpёмa#4793 is my discord
Bentley Garcia
Arabic script is so hard. :(
Jason Rodriguez
Aлeкcaндp/дpёмa#4793
Aaron Martinez
Always getting mixed with English pronunciation when trying to learn Dutch, damn.
Isn't that basically just like your script though? I can learn arabic script just fine for praying purposes, but the language is challenging. I don't really have any interest with learning it though.
Zachary Garcia
No it's quite easy
Elijah Ward
Then what's stopping you from learning Latin?
Ryan Ramirez
>Isn't that basically just like your script though? How? Urdu spellings are hard, they don't write all the vowels, and they are difficult to predict often. And how the fuck am I supposed to read this?
It's just not my priority, I have to learn Korean for my studies and when I have free time I prefer to use it for Japanese. I will probably never learn Latin but I still find it interesting to take a look on their sentence structures and things like that.
Josiah Rogers
Is there any nice resource for old korean? It would be cool to look into.
Adrian Lee
I don't know, I didn't start looking into it. But learning Hanja can be a good start.
>2 month streak on duolingo >start reading news feeds on phone in spare time in new language >can make out some articles general meaning >its depressing in that language too i knew it would be this way, but i wanted to hope that maybe it was an escape to a new world ;_;
James Cooper
Poste plus des images de Françe-chan s'il te plaît
Luis Wilson
I don't think there are many resources tho because there is actually a lack of experts of Korean in universities circles from what I understood.
I like news in Asian news because it doesn't talk about migrants and women all the time.
i'm learning mandarin why are you learning hebrew?
Xavier Brooks
for understanding the commands.
Luis Edwards
>leaning mandarin How's that going for you? I hope to pick up one of the government's "desired" languages by the time I'm out of school to give me an edge in getting hired. Trying to decide which one I want to go for
Aaron Diaz
*rubs hands* I enjoy it. Sure, it takes time to learn, but after having to suffer through learning Latin and German, Mandarin feels like a breeze.
Adam Miller
Man, fuck hanja. When I have a goo couple years of study then I'll look at it.
Nathaniel Sanders
Yeah that's not easy, but at least their pronunciation is easy because it's Korean. Learning some can be useful for vocabulary
Quick question for ya frenchie, if I, let's say used a ㅋ where a ㄱ should be, would people still get the idea of what I'm trying to say? Some of these consonants are cunts to get correct each time.
In a sentence, can you use the word "evolve" with the word "every time", in any context at all?
Austin King
Like, can I say, "I evolve every time" or "I develop every time". In general context of course, not when "evolve" doesn't actually mean "evolve".
James Smith
Why not
Ryan Carter
Well yes
Julian Bell
I'm still not entirely understanding, but it's grammatically correct. You'd probably use the word "improve" rather than "evolve/develop" in that context, though.
Alexander James
just curious, that's all
Charles Jenkins
All the time = пocтoяннo Every time = кaждый paз
Blake Martin
Honestly just for shits and giggles mostly, I'm not Jewish nor do I have Jewish family
Julian Diaz
Deutsch, mein Freund
Grayson Clark
Every time I evolve I grow stronger!
Charles Butler
I don't understand how this is a hang-up for you... what is making you ask this question?
Wyatt Hill
ich auch
Carson Turner
wieso?
Lucas King
I am able to choose between Spanish, French and Russian to learn in my new "school". I'm a roach who lives in Germany with pretty subpar Turkish skills. Should I go for French, which is able to somewhat support me with my Turkish skills due to a shitload of French loan words in the Turkish language, or should I go with Russian? The Russian world seems to be more compatible with my personality and I am planning to go for a long journey through Russia and the Central Asian states, or should I go with French? The French culture is also pretty interesting and I want to develop my cultural and gastronomical understanding more towards the French direction(I also planned to WOOF in France for a while after my bicycle travel through Asia)? I could choose both, but I'll pretend that my English skills are very shitty ao I can make my life easier because I don't have to learn two languages which get tested after two years because I will probably either become a physician or a biologist/chemist? I will probably learn both languages either way and Russian will be a bigger challenge, but I'll get support from Russian teachers and I know quite a few Russians to practice my skills. Any suggestions for me in my particular situation? I'm about to toss a coin or something
Lincoln Jones
>wieso Ich wollte eine populäre europäische Sprache lernen, aber keine romanische Sprache
Wyatt Hill
French and Spanish
Jason Ross
mmm, ach so ich hoffe, dass du die deutsche Regierung magst... oder die EU. wenn du Liberalismus hasst dann wirst du die Sprache hasst....
Elijah Murphy
Eine Kultur wird in den seltensten Fällen vernünftig durch deren Regierung vertreten. Sowas sollte die Wertschätzung einer Sprache die man lernen will nicht beeinflussen. Eine Sprache sollte man wegen der Leute und deren Gepflogenheiten zu denen man sich hingezogen fühlt lernen und nicht wegen den politischen Umständen welche in dem Land deiner Wahl herrschen. Viel Erfolg
*Und wenn du Liberalismus hasst, wirst du diese Sprache (ebenfalls/auch) hassen
Noah Sullivan
I doubt it's that bad.
I have a far off dream of living in South Tyrol
Jordan Thomas
Forgot a comma between "Umständen" and "welche" btw
Angel Nelson
Spanish
Thomas Evans
vielleicht. ich wohnte in Deutschland und ich merkte, dass ich das Land hasste. die Regierung, die Kultur... fürchtbar. Österreich ist aber viel besser. ich benutze diese Sprache nicht mehr. doch. if you're learning german because of its past, you'll have to realize that it has buried it, only keeping alive a few dukes and kings for some tourist money. the alps are beautiful though.
Hudson James
You CAN say it, but if you mean that you are developing, then you are not evolving. You are developing, growing, improving, etc. all the time would be better as well. There are a lot of things that you can say in english that are correct gramatically, and can be understood, but is not used.
I'm 3 months into learning Japanese using grammar books and anki, though for the past 2 months I've only used anki, I've finally hit a wall in not being that determined to continue. My past longest time learning a language was about 2 weeks and that was Norwegian (bokmal) ((ADD is a bitch)) should I continue even though I am mostly burnt out right now or switch to something different maybe temporarily or even permanently?
I can only imagine what 3 months would have gotten me with an easier language
I want to learn the language of Pepsi. Can anyone help me on finding resources? I assume the process of learning it would be similar to that of Japanese.
The loanwords aren't going to be a huge help for you, Persian or Arabic would be more useful there. Stick with whichever language interests you the most, though. Whichever you're most passionate about right now would be best, especially if you plan on learning both. Are you planning to improve your Turkish at the same time or at all?
Chase Morales
how i can learn the hindi alphabet?
Easton Hall
Reminder to get a healthy dose of COMPELLING CONTENT every day lads
>Do you learn a rare language ? Which one ? Nope. I knew some Haitian Creole phrases tho >Are you interested in rare/ancient languages ? why ? Latin. Etymology interests me. >What language are you learning? German, French >Share language learning experiences! I've been accepted for a fully funded PhD program in Linguistics, AMA >Find people to train your language with! Looking to practice my French and learn some joual slang
What were your bachelors and masters dissertations about? What do you hope to research as the topic of your PhD?
Grayson Moore
Also, does studying linguistics include learning other languages as well, or do you end up learning more about how languages work, and less about the languages themselves?
Connor Russell
What will you be researching, and why isn't it proto Dravido-Korean?
Robert Gonzalez
BA Honors Thesis was on Quebecois signage policies and how they effect the Linguistic Landscape of Montreal.
No masters.
I want to study language contact along the border of US and Canada for my dissertation
My undergrad required upper level coursework in one foreign lang, and 6 semesters of any other foreign lang classes. I studied French mainly, but took courses in Spanish and German for the second requirement. To answer your second question, Freshman/Sophomore year focuses on learning languages, Junior/Senior/5th you start to learn about mechanics of the language, ideologies behind them. You are expected to use [foreign language] almost exclusively in class at this point. [spoiler]Asiatic languages bore me desu[/spoiler]
I know, but the loanwords are definitely somewhat noticeable and I thought that it may just be a tad more helpful to make some progress with my Turkish, it's just a little bonus if I decide myself to go for French (first).
I've reconsidered everything and I came to the conclusion that I will start with learning Russian, it just seems way more useful when I think about my plans for the next two years and I have some Russian friends to practice with right away. I will work on my Turkish at the same time, but I'm basically pretty familiar with the grammar and everything, I just need to improve and expand my vocabulary really badly. Reading some books abd listening to some music while actively tracking down every unfamiliar word should do the trick I guess. I also wanted to focus myself on old Turkic to be able to get "through the day" in Central Asia, even though most the common words are very basic and the rest is only mutually intelligible to some degree. And Russian would be the perfect bridge to get around that while allowing me to pick up some chunks of Kipchak languages in the Turkic language family.
I can go for French once I'm "done" with that I guess. I'll keep you guys updated with my progress on these threads, I obviously have to start with the cyrillic alphabet first and I already found a decent app for that. Thank you for your input, autism over
Oliver Gonzalez
My gf wants to learn Japanese cause she a weeb, and I want to learn German cause I'm half German on my mothers side, and my father also speaks fluent german from living there for over a decade. We both want to become at least almost fluent in both, and then when we have kids, teach them to be Trilingual, being able to speak English, German, and Japanese. We'd most likely do this, provided we were fluent enough, by speaking in English 100% of the time for a week, speaking in German 100% time at home, but English outside with other people obviously, and the same with Japanese.
I'm asking for the German learning portion.
How proficient would I get, and how long would it take me, if I used only Duolingo?
I'm planning on also using Memrise, and if possible, use my Mother as someone to help, but she lives in Germany. My Father also doesn't have time, between work and looking after kids.
Ryan Stewart
the spanish dub of the simpsons is very good
Christopher Jenkins
>How proficient would I get if I used only Duolingo? not at all
Ethan Walker
whole duolingo course is like semester 1 of a uni language class, maybe a little less in short, you'll be able to make simple conversations and read simple texts, but you'll still have a long way to go
just practise more and you will do it someday, I believe in you
Ethan Bailey
it took me literally YEARS until i figured out how to do it
don't give up senpai
Xavier Robinson
I speak English, Hindi, Marathi and Malayalam fluently. I want to learn a new language, any ideas/suggestions on what I should learn?
Ayden Brooks
Use duolingo to 50-60% use in conjunction with a textbook, and courses like Assimil
Jason Lewis
Sounds cool Good luck with your studies!
Landon Jones
I looked up French articles on circumcision and genital mutilation, thinking that they'd be free of obvious bias in English articles, but a lot of them are also infected with pure ideology.
Charles Brown
I found a book for learning Hebrew at a used book sale. It's not as hard as I expected.
Matthew Fisher
It's the same sound as in "ladder" or "butter." It's just repeated.
David Thompson
Even if you know you'd never do it because you wouldn't have the motivation or time for it, what's a particularly rare or obscure language that you'd be interested in learning or would want to know?
Occitan, Amharic, and Syriac seem pretty interesting to me desu
Julian Wood
Istro-Romanian, Forest Nenets, Lower Sorbian
John Moore
I don't have any super unique goals, but for living languages I have the distance goal of learning Frisian and Icelandic. For dead languages, I would like to eventually comprehend Phoenician (to the limited extent we have) and Ugaritic. I guess Hebrew would be useful to learn for those. Currently, I only have worked on Spanish (ok) and Dutch (in progress).
Jeremiah Nguyen
Fuck me - I can study a language for a month straight get bored and not touch it for months.
Tips for staying motivated?
Parker Russell
Keep doing it.
William Gray
maybe im square but ancient greek and latin would be very cool to know
do you want to be a sadcunt or a langcunt?
Asher Sanders
Your dissertation sounds like one of the most boring topics you could pick in linguistics.
T. Mainer
Brandon Scott
Zuerst mochte ich Deutsche Musik. Danach habe ich angefangen, Wörter zu übersetzen, und irgendwann habe ich angefangen, es zu lernen.
Warum ich Deutsch gewählt habe: - Klingt gut aus - Nicht zu schwer zu lernen - Viele Leute sprechen es - Die Länder, die es sprechen, sind gut - Konsistente Grammatik und Aussprache (had to google translate that one)
I've been lurking this cessp -- *ahem* these threads to see if anyone is interested in my language of 'Syriac' or 'Aramaic'. Do you have anything you want to say?
Here's some example audio I tend to post here when I bring up the subject:
The alternatives for a commonly spoken language were unironically 2nd/3rd world shitholes, and I still consider Germany, Austria and Switzerland good countries even if the former's politics (haven't been following the other two despite visiting them recently) is a circus, which isn't to say ours isn't.
