It's literally all his fault

>Didn't investigate white walker claims further even after finding direwolves south of the wall

>If he had disciplined his kids properly Bran would never have climbed the tower and saw the Power couple making love. This would have prevented the war ever happening and right now Joffrey and sansa would be married and everyone would be happy.
> Also Arya wouldn't be a murderer. Robb would have put duty before feelings. Sansa wouldn't be a cunt and Rickon may have been someone people actual remembered existed

>didn't control retarded wife who later on cost Robb the war and kidnapped Tyrion which started the fighting. This all happened because she didn't know her place as he never taught her it.

If he had grown a dick Daenerys would be dead and no one would have had to put up with her shit. Also no evil dragons.

>Couldn't raise Theon to be a proper man with honor and loyalty after years and years which lead to Theon betraying Robb making the war even harder for Robb.

>Got himself and his best friend killed because he let his feelings get in the way of his duty.

> protected Jon even though he knew the prophecies. If he told Robert that Jon was Lyanna and Rhaegar's son Robert would have killed Jon, this would have meant the white walkers wouldn't come as the prophecy would have been postponed until the next song of ice and fire birth.

Ned is the real bad guy in all of this.

>>If he had disciplined his kids properly Bran would never have climbed the tower
wtf? thats the stupidest fucking guess ive ever read about GOT

>This would have prevented the war ever happening and right now Joffrey and sansa would be married and everyone would be happy.

he probably still would've found out about the incest 2bh, and Stannis already knew when the show started, so a war would've happened inevitably.

>If he had grown a dick Daenerys would be dead and no one would have had to put up with her shit. Also no evil dragons.
but the assassin were sent even despite his attempts to stop him, they failed, so nothing he did would've changed that

>>Didn't investigate white walker claims further even after finding direwolves south of the wall
I saw a coyote in my yard leprechauns must be real

no, it's 100% true

and he should let i go or just kill them and tell Tywin it was a tragic boating accident

They would have sent more if he hadn't talked out king out of it.

Direwolves hadn't been seen that far south in years.
Think more if you see an illegal mexican north of the wall. you're at least going to ring up border control and report it

That would make boring reading and tv.

>no, it's 100% true
nope. your just taking a guess. you are pulling it out of your ass.
if its 100% you can easily add more info to remove all doubt

Brans mom says they've told him not to climb the walls

If Ned had beaten the shit out of him with a belt do you think he'd have kept doing it ?

did you become a bitch because your father whipped you with a belt? thats some reaching to believe Bran would have been a no balls son of stark.
your going to need to throw down more information because so far its just guesswork. you honestly do everything your parents tell you without question and think your not a pussy?

>"Do you think he wanted to hear my side?"

You're getting a bid angry over a little thing. Don't make me get my belt and discipline you.

>Killing a Night's Watchman who was being chased by a White Walker
How anyone can defend this is beyond me

you think what i wrote is from anger? are you a safe space player at college because what i wrote was just words, son.
i think that actually already did a # on you.

Try again pleb.

im going to whip you with my belt.
You're Bran and I'm Ned but I'm going to do what he should have done and discipline Bran .

A conscript running away from his post claims hes being chased by an ice demon, you cant see how ridiculous that sounds?

Bran is the ice king and Discipline has turned around

yeah bro, this story would be much better with no conflict.
>HEY GUISE, THERE'S TROUBLE!
>HERO DOES THE RIGHT THING!
>THE END

Yeah man do it!

D&D should just fuck off with this shit and make a prequel spin off that focuses on rhaegar and the court of the mad king, as well as the final battle where he got his chest caved in by the stag

>this story would be much better with no conflict.
Who says there would be no conflict? Joffrey would still be Joffrey and Cersei and Jaimie would be found out eventually whilst the threat of the White Walkers would be even greater because Jon wouldn't have met Sam nor the Wildings.

Actually if you think about it: if none of season 1 events happened, everyone would be doomed

They are making a prequel spin off but says it won't follow into season 1 events so may be set many years in the past.

>Prequel about creation of wall
HYPE

>Joffrey and Cersei and Jaimie
would do a bunch of stuff where you would then make a post writing "why did Joffrey and Cersei and Jaimie character do this when they could have done that?"

Not even the same guy

for the saxons, james?

OP was not door?

joffrey would cause trouble no matter what and sansa was even more of a cunt when he was alive.

OP is literally a nigger

Yes, you idiot, this is something we've known since the very first book.

Ned was a poor father and if even just one of his problems had been fixed things would have turned out better. For example if he'd told Sansa what was going on she wouldn't have gone and tattled to Cersei.

>Robb would have put duty before feelings.
That's exactly what he did. Robb was later revealed as the mirror image of Eddard.

>Didn't investigate white walker claims further even after finding direwolves south of the wall
Wouldn't have made a lick of a difference.
>If he had disciplined his kids properly Bran would never have...
That's on the mother, not Ned.
>didn't control retarded wife
He was dead.
>Couldn't raise Theon to be a proper man.
He did, Theon did that all on his own.
> protected Jon even though he knew the prophecies.
He didn't know dick about any prophecies, he was taking care of his nephew.
You sure like to place responsibility on Ned for the decisions others made, while absolving them completely. Please never have kids.

you are forgetting three things. Cersai would still be trying to kill robert. And Lysafinger would still kill Jon, and Ned's friendship with robert would cause him to become hand.

the matter of succession would have been muddled because ned had no of way of knowing that he was better of not knowing that jeff wasn't roberts because he didn't know that's what he didn't know. Once ned knew his honor still would compel him to see Stannis' ascent to the throne and compassion would still compel him to tell cersai to flee

sorry ned is more honorable, a better friend and compassionate that you could ever hope to be. He was literally too perfect for their world. He died for the good of the realm. In front of everyone at the sept of baelor, he spoke the truth, did the honorable thing, >he was a good friend. He'll be a fucking legend. You? You'll probably have a heart attack in the dark damp swamp of your mothers basement accompanied only by the dim glow of pornography of a computer monitor

>protected Jon even though he knew the prophecies. If he told Robert that Jon was Lyanna and Rhaegar's son Robert would have killed Jon, this would have meant the white walkers wouldn't come as the prophecy would have been postponed until the next song of ice and fire birth.

White walkers can only come below the wall if a Targaryan fucks a Stark? Literally when has this ever been said or shown?

>prequels
>good

Name one good prequel other than Temple of Doom, which really isn't even a prequel.

Rhaegar literally did nothing wrong.

Why should he? Didn't Ned find him sitting on the throne after killing the king? No shit he found him suspicious as fuck.

Except dealing with his love for Lyanna in the most autistic way possible.

He practically pissed into Roberts open mouth at a Harren Hal by naming Lyanna his love.

The smart path is to have Lyanna just refuse the marriage. They literally can't do shit if she just won't say the words.

In the books Ned straight up told him to do it and not let Cat find out.

And maybe Cersei and Jaime shouldn't have been fucking in Winterfell, Bran has every right to climb around his own home.

>building a house where there is no good place to fuck your sister without her husband finding out

This is all Bran the Builder's fault

He's just an idiot. The prophecy is that the long night ends with Azor Ahai defeating the Others. He thinks this means if your kill Azor Ahai, then the long night will never start.

It'd be like saying if you killed Batman then the League of Shadows would never attempt world domination, cause the only guy who can stop them doesn't exist.

That is retarded, especially because Azor Ahai is Davos

>a chain of events were set off by several characters and their interactions in a world
who woulldda thunk it

>Bran is the Night King.
>Valyrian Steel dagger meant to kill child Bran is used to kill the Night King, who is future Bran.
>pottery

>if Ned controlled everything he would've controlled everything

astute observation OP

To be honest it was all his own fault

>kill your King
>sit on the Iron Throne like some smug fuck being proud you broke your Oath

...

>kill the king to prevent him from killing thousands
>knowing you will never be thanked and instead be called kingslayer
>went against your honor and oath to do what was ultimately right
>want to pop a squat real quick and sort all this shit out in your head
>someone walks in and thinks you're being a smug fuck

fuck you, being Jaime is suffering

>>kill the king to prevent him from killing thousands
Maybe he should have told more people other than Brienne about that little detail.

He was called the motherfucking Mad King and was known for roasting people alive. Shouldn't have been too hard to deduce.

>They would have sent more if he hadn't talked out king out of it.
No they wouldn't have. By the time Robert agreed to not go through with it Varys had already sent the assassin, and Robert was on his deathbed.

>and he should let i go
But Stannis knew, he learned it before Ned even got to King's Landing. He definitely would not have let it go.

yeah but the more natural assumption was that he just killed the king on his father's orders, which was what everyone assumed and you can't really blame them for it. he never told them his side of the story.

Yeah, fair enough. Not sure too many people would have believed him at that point, but I guess it makes no difference now.

i mean there's caches of wildfire all over the city that would've served as evidence

what the mad king did is not public knowledge, of the characters we personally know ned, tyrion and cersei are probably the only ones who truly knows what went down in that room

jaime made the decision to not make it public after ned gave him a sassy look or something

the wildfire was not common knowledge. i believe tyrion and cersei were the only ones to know about it

literally none of those characters know. nobody knows except jaime and brienne.

yeah which is my point. he could've told everyone about the wildfire and that would've been his proof

im p. sure ned knows, but i could be mistaken and jaime just didn't tell him - but didn't Tyrion get the wildfire for the battle of the blackwater from one of those caches? and Qyburn investigated rumours about them that led Cersei to knowing?

>If he were a Mary Sue everything would be fine!

Fuck off

brienne outright asks Jaime why she never told ned what happened, and he said that ned judged him from the day he walked in the room.

ned doesn't know.

tyrion only got the wildfire stored under the keep because he found out cersei was making it.

Ned doesn't know about and neither did Tyrion or Cersei, it was common knowledge that the Mad King used Wildfire to burn his enemies since it was invented to replace Dragonfire when the last dragons died.

Retard here

The Mad King got kidnapped right? Thus turning him MAD?

Ned did not know. And they all knew about Aerys making wildfire and there were rumors of the caches. The wildfire used in the Blackwater was made new (at least in the show, I don't remember if it was in the books or not). I think generally though the caches were rumor but there wasn't much confirmation if they were real and where they might be. Only Jaime knew that Aerys was going to blow it all up.

little finger was still fucking shit up and cersei still plotted to kill everyone. eventually some shit was bound to go down.

I KILL HIM EVERY NIGHT

I'll HAVE YOUR BOOOAAAAAARRRRR ON A SPIKE

>If he had grown a dick Daenerys would be dead and no one would have had to put up with her shit. Also no evil dragons.
The only thing that matters in your post IMO. It's amazing how differently I feel rewatching that scene now, that Ned really just was an honorable, "let justice be done tho the sky may fall" fool.

Replyfag kys

>Robb would have put duty before feelings

Rob WAS putting duty before feelings, at least in the book. Just duty to that rando chick instead of the deal with the frays. He knew what a source of shame Jon was to Nedd and how sad it made his mother so he never wanted to make a bastard.

Jaime in the next days killed pyromancers who were instructed to blow the shit out of the city.

>Maybe he should have told more people other than Brienne about that little detail

Yeah, just flail around that whole King's landing is sitting on the giant wildfire cache, ready to be blown up in any moment.

>The only thing that matters in your post IMO
it literally didn't matter though

the assassin was sent regardless of ned's disapproval, and he failed

Considering there an impossibly large wall bein protected by an organisation whose specific function is to protect the world of men from those ice demons, I would have thought that they would take these things more seriously.

He had to squat on that particular chair though? The throne is a hassle to climb in the book, mind you. Whatever he did was deliberate

at the time the story takes place, WW are just a legend
most people think the Wall is there to stop wildlings

Those demons were considered myths and most people were convinced the wall was for the wildlings.

holy shit, who the hell is Rickon?

Dickon*
Yeah, but Grimsby. Seven Kingdoms

He literally quips when Ned walks in like a smug little shit.

Jaime's the only one responsible for his shit reputation. He didn't tell anyone because he was an angsty teenager.