How does the world see Mexico?

How do you see Mexico?

Is it negatively impacted by how US (mostly Trump) depicts Mexico?

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How the US depicts Mexico is how Mexico is seen by the world, except for Latin America to an extent

Its weird.
they have a great capital and a lively and fun culture yet people are leaving it in droves.

How is it different in Latin America?

Is Mexico viewed as a strong badass older bro type in LatAm?

>party destination for american teens
>vacay destination for old people
>hot women
>good food
>tequila

oh and cartels

My ancestors :)

No, but we know that there is more than just drugs and beheadings

I think it's more complicated than that. I mean what most people know about Mexico is that it is the origin of many immigrants to america, and is disliked by america. But that just impacts what they know. We are aware of the american perspective towards Mexico, but that does not mean we share it. Even people who like america don't automatically agree with how they think americans see the world.

Holy shit, stop making threads about us, you OBESE fucker

you have to GO BACK

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This. CHIs are the absolute worst.

Nothing has changed. People's perception of America did change though.

We see them a bit like Spain
Dunno why USA bullies them so much though

Drug cartels and the refugees who flee the violence take all the low skill & undesirable jobs.

When i was a kid i used to think that americawas the greatest country in the world with dumb but really cool fat people who deffended the world from evil (because movies and vydia)

Nowadaysi think its vulgar, culturally barren shithole with a grim future , I unironically see Mexico in better light than the US, specially when projecting to the future

This.

Also youtube.com/watch?v=MTG8MG0Dfas

Also drugs go into the US.

Some of the violence spill over.

Some Mexicans are good people and some are bad, but the issue is that they come illegally.

How Mexico is viewed in the US varies a lot tho, not everyone is a Trumpster

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Same for me

I enjoyed that movie more than I thought I would.

It may surprise you, but we do not know much about Mexico here.

No, they see us as violent chimps with high amounts of economic inequality, vulgar spanish, tragic history, cringe-inducing and producing country, miserables and like USA backyard.

why don't you help them solve their drug cartel problems?
I am not too well informed, but i read somewhere that usa actually armed the cartels

our gov is a lapdog, so we dont have any voice, but we are fixing that in december

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lol

Spanish people don't even know they were a great empire

>We see them a bit like Spain
whatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt???????????????????????????????????????

we dont know much about spain or latam in general either,
just like in every country we only care about ourselves not for the others

did they ever find those missing students

aren't you guys the same? you speak the same language, after all

Cuz they think America is for unitedstatetians.

>why don't you help them solve their drug cartel problems?
Best thing to do is legalize pot, cocaine and other select drugs. But drugs are widely seen as """bad""" by both political parties. They would also caused pharmaceutical companies to lose profits.
>i read somewhere that usa actually armed the cartels
Can't confirm or deny.

Mexicans don't migrate to escape cartel violence.

No, they are inbred moors and we are native orcs

Latin America isn't /lat, many do seem to be holding on to somewhat antiquated stereotypes about us as a default but I doubt most of them think about us in terms that are much different than how we see them in turn.

Jamaica and Britain too, also Haiti and France or Surinam and Netherlands.

Because their solution has placed us in this hell of a mess
They only know how to solve problems with guns
What we need is better civilian law enforcement
I would rather have you euros teaching us how to be civilised than Americans teach us how to soldier even more

Its actually one of the best 3rd world countries with a higher GDP per capita than the balkans including Hungary.

They have to blame someone for their problems, not themselves though, that would hurt their pride.

>Mexicans don't migrate to escape cartel violence.

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Sorry about that, we first have to teach the Spanish how not to oppress ethnic minorities

Comfy lazy chili eaters and siesta makers. Until there is a full moon and they go full cartel.

They don't. Who/What gave you the idea that they did?

jajajaaja gallego de mierda.

They have similar culture than Amerifats (cowboy culture, rodeos, Tex-Mex food and all those Amerifat states and cities that where Mexico before) but they speaking Spanish.

>people dont flee when there is war and violence

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The main reason is they are poor people that want a "quick" way to overcome poverty. They preffer to work in the USA and get paid better and maybe get better social benefits, the narco violence is just an excuse in most of cases.

"Correlation does not match cause"

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congolombian

and corridas bit it's a spanish thing i guess

They DIDN'T in past tense _as more Mexicans are coming back from the US than the other way around_ but the reason people migrate is simply because of economical opportunities. You can whine and be as uninformed as you please, but the truth is that you have a DEMAND for low skill labour, which you hire, and poor Mexicans fill that void. The drug war started in 2006, almost right at the same time when Mexican migration started to slow down (until it eventually reversed), whereas it was the strongest in the mid 90s, at the same time NAFTA destroyed our agriculture and we had a recession, the Mexican peso crisis of the 90s.

Every single time I have to teach Americans how their own country works and it's embarrassing.

This guy is gonna make us blame americans like germans blamed jews.


SOON

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>USA backyard
Alaska and Canada are our back yard (who builds a fence between their backyard and house?).

>more Mexicans are coming back from the US than the other way around

yeah, ICE is forcing them out lmao

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It's gonna be hilarious when Mexicans flood into the US again because of NAFTA. Again.

>Implying you can call some of those 'mexicans'

A lot of "la luz extinguidos" are coming lol, they look so scared.

You're retarded, that trend started around 2010

They are actually deporting less people than Obama, even if they are now focusing on law abiding citizens that have been living there for decades.

Mexicans simply started to come back on their own after the 2008 depression. And again, I have to teach you how your own country works.

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Don't reply to me

Is he Mexican Bernie Sanders?

would mexico work better if they broke up in to smaller countries? like call on half Mex, and the other Ico.

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>2006
Nah, the real violence happened between 2008 and 2012. War started because government noticed how fucked up their system was (they had competitors for stealing and manipulating)

Any pleb gets scared of today's beheadings and similar shit, 2009 and 2010 were the real hell.

Are tattoos popular among young Mexicans? Is there a stigma attached them?

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Yes. It would focus cartel violence into a smaller, more manageable area

STOP

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No. Pic.
I'm well aware that violence didn't spike immediately and it went to shit until 2008 onward, but the the drug war started in 2006.

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No
Free Quebec

shut your Mexan ass up

>people are leaving it in droves.
migration is not that big anymore

>A confederation
>Then USA takes half of that territory
I see what you did there


Don't YOU dare

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Most are cringeful people

>Ignorant violent peasants
>Hipster fuckers and attention whores

we just want lower avocado prices, and maybe those oil wells everyone and their mother is siphoning from

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Sounds like reasonable guy. Mexico needs American style incarceration, like the 3 strike rule.

Nobody needs American style incarceration, specially not a country as corrupt as this, with 98% of impunity and where the only people in jail are the ones who can't afford a good defence or are so uneducated they don't even know what due process means.

What would you say the biggest issue is when it comes to public education, especially to the poorer, rural regions of the country?

No smaller nations get bullied more.

Mexico needs to fix it's own problems with narcos, corrupt local politicians, corrupt central politicians, oligarchs who corrupt politicians, etc etc

How2

How are Mexican people seen and treated at highschools and colleges? Do they get to bang girls or do they keep themselves in a closed social circle?

They literally need some death squads

No it wouldn't. The new generation of cartels are more fragmented and decentralized.

Depends. If it's in a mexican majority area there are chads who bang girls and become dads at the age of 16. Anywhere else and they are just those kids who fit in with niche circles. On average they stick in their own ethnicity and cast everyone else out.

t. CHI

1. It outright doesn't exist
2. If it exists, the "teachers" shouldn't be teachers
3. Being a teacher is an incredibly shit job with bad payment, so not many people want to be one
4. Corrupt syndicates who steal and who only protect mediocre teachers
5. A government who doesn't care and instead of training the already existing (shit) teachers just wants to fire everyone and start over (without a proper plan - basically just doing the same but with different people) without giving them any options
We literally already have them. What do you think the drug war is? A pillow fight?

CHI here
Mexicans males are hated by women of all ethnicities and races
The only way to get laid is to lie about where you're from
Luckily women are very stupid and can't tell the difference between a Spaniards and a Mexican anyway

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brazil has them, and they dont seem to work

My amigo

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Pobre México, tan lejos de Dios y tan cerca de Estados Unidos

We don't have strong feelings toward Mexico here but most people like Latinos/latin america

I don't know man, incarceration was one of the main reasons why US gang violence declined from the 80's. The first one was legalization of abortion.
Not the same lad but the problem with Mexico is that is as ethnically and cultural different than complete regions in Europe and population doesn't accept politics easily. Also, the Mexico in the XX Century had this Socialist-esque education and profile (Dead to the US, bussisness are bad and from the devil, etc) even when the inner works were from mixed economy. So, A LOT of the poorer rural regions still have this anti-globalism point of view. Cities tend to be more "westernized" but most towns image and culture have still Cold War mentality reminiscences. But we could say the same about Alabama or rural Kansas.

>A pillow fight?

all wars should be solved by lesser, soft, cushioned, violence

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Yeah, spicy food and small dogs.

A country of cringe, spicy food, big sombreros, burros, tequila, flying indians, narcos, machetes, jaguars, tacos, doritos, cantinflas, illegal emigrants.
The flying indians were a big thing back in the 90's, Don francisco had them several times and there were always included in small documentaries and cultural shows.

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>incarceration was one of the main reasons why US gang violence declined from the 80's
This is very debatable, given how most of the people in jail are just minor offenders who smoked a joint one time and happened to not be white.

I'm curious, how do politics work in Mexico? Based on what I've been told before I believe it's completely different from the US. Even the campaigns project different values all together.
Also in all honesty, how educated would you say the average Mexican is by region?

No, I mean straight up war style. Like going house to house of gang members, rounding them up and executing them. The current low intensity fighting devolves the role of the Army into a police force

I doubt it would be execute properly due to how corrupt their system is. It would have to take a third party and that seems like a basis for war

> doritos
Did you guys get the ones with pogs/tazos?

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I'm pretty sure they didnt came in doritos packages, but yeah, we got them on chips, cheetos, etc.

We only get depictions of Mexico through American culture so it's mostly;

Good food
Hot women
Crime
Maids

That's the thing about Armies, they're more immune to the corruption rampant in local police forces. A soldier is unlikely to get found out and have his family killed by cartel. A police officer lives where he works, making it dangerous to even arrest gng members

>I mean straight up war style
That's literally what the drug war is

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nytimes.com/2016/05/27/world/americas/mexican-militarys-high-kill-rate-raises-human-rights-fears.html
borderlandbeat.com/2016/05/mexican-military-most-efficient-killers.html
inquisitr.com/3135597/mexican-military-kill-rates-leave-people-fearful/

Boy, is that sad. I was under the impression Chis weren't such social outcasts. But at least they aren't made out of spaghuetti, right?

how educated would you say the average Mexican is by region?

>North
''High''

>Central Mexico
''High''

>Southern Mexico
>Low

But overall you will find ignorance everywhere

we are all the same hispanic shit, but i dislike mexico, because they hate us.

>I was under the impression Chis weren't such social outcasts
I don't know what gave you that impression. As I know it we are almost bottom tier, about as low if not equal to flips. Only way you can get around the CHI curse is if you have light skin so you can pass off as white.

At the end of the day Mexico's problems lie in it's people and government:
>national economy never picks up because local economy sucks
>local economy sucks because lack of competent government and narcos
>local police don't fix local narco issue because they are scared, incompetent, bribed, or get no federal support.
>federal criminal support never comes because central government is bribed by narcos, corrupt, or incompetent.
>federal government also bribed and put into power by oligarchs and thus do nothing to change the current economic situation. Carlos Slim was ranked 2010-13 richest man in the world yet the average Mexican lives below OECD levels.
>peasants either too uneducated or powerless to make changes, anyone who's relatively well off try their hardest to keep the system in place, and the rich ofc wants no change (pretty universal for any country)

A downward cycle to hell.

At this point it's probably best to just have a proletariat revolution or something like that. However, that's also an issue with a neighbor to the north that has had a history of liberating willing locals into freedom after revolutions.

>how do politics work in Mexico?
They don't. But really, be more specific, this is a very vague question.
People in Mexico City are the most educated, followed by other big cities like Guadalajara and Monterrey, but also Mérida and whatnot. But in general I'd say it would be like this Mexico City>North>Bajío>Other central states>Yucatán Peninsula>South