Why are spaniards such brutish subhumans?

Brayden Cooper
Brayden Cooper

mr cortes, should we really destroy this great civilisation and genocide its inhabitants?
si.
why are spaniards such brutish subhumans?

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Zachary Sanchez
Zachary Sanchez

t. Tlven Tlvenssen

Josiah Brown
Josiah Brown

Is that you DominicANO?

Oliver Jenkins
Oliver Jenkins

great civilization
500.000 people can't defend themselves against 500 drunk manlets with a bunch of guns

William Williams
William Williams

This was a real crusade, it should be recognized as such. Their whole religious cult was based on human sacrifice and a few catholic spaniards ended it.

Landon Garcia
Landon Garcia

Should we abandon the marvel of balance between buildings and nature sending this city into a clash with every single natural disaster possible?
Si

Hunter Johnson
Hunter Johnson

they were the original ISIS

Julian Phillips
Julian Phillips

Tlven Tlvenssen

kek

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Noah Gutierrez
Noah Gutierrez

t.Francisco de Cortez
You can’t seriously believe that
Spaniard recluted hundreads of native allies to siege the city and they as Europeans were filthy and ridden with desease

Isaiah Phillips
Isaiah Phillips

kek but the tl should be at the end

Ryan Walker
Ryan Walker

Cortes inspired a civil war in Mexico and then just sorta said "I win I win I win!" before fucking off back to Spain and bringing back an army after most of the natives died of smallpox

Carter Ramirez
Carter Ramirez

Hail Papa Nurgle

Lucas Murphy
Lucas Murphy

This desu.

Spaniards were more along the lines of master manipulators and political strategists than military conquerors.

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Jaxon Morales
Jaxon Morales

t. Oppressor of the Finns.

Jeremiah Brooks
Jeremiah Brooks

they deserved to be punished for their horrible human sacrificing warlike culture and religion.

everything that happened in 1492 (expulsion of Jews, conquest of the last muslim kingdom on Spain, discovery of America, Nebrija's Grammar, the first grammar of a modern european language) was divinely inspired.

Nathan Wilson
Nathan Wilson

Spaniards were more along the lines of master manipulators and political strategists than military conquerors.
Aztecs weren’t prepared for the “divide and rule “Roman tactic

Andrew Sanchez
Andrew Sanchez

thats the law of nature, the strong replaces the weak

also, you are the rape baby of the conquistadores so start blaming your own ancestors, afterall they had a family and died in your country, not spain

Anthony Gomez
Anthony Gomez

The only thing the Spaniards ever did wrong in the Americas were destroying Mayan and Aztec texts.

The genoicide as you put was committed by other Amerindian tribes in the region. Have you people yet to realize that Mayans, Aztecs, incas etc... are some of the most brutal, violent people in history? They constantly destroyed themselves and each other which is why we have so few things remaining because when a civilization rises up in that part of the world it gets quickly destroyed by a primitive neighbour. Then it takes around 500 years for those conquerors to create their own grand civilization which inadvertently gets destroyed by some other tribe of primitives.

It's been proven that the Mayans in Guatemala were a warfaring people by all the forts, and walls found beneath the jungle canoope.

Cortez literally did nothing wrong, the Aztecs and Mayans literally fucked with him first and so he had right to defend himself and destroy his enemies. PS his Indian allies did the destroying and most of the killings.

Jason Walker
Jason Walker

The only thing the Spaniards ever did wrong in the Americas were destroying Mayan and Aztec texts.
This and
This

Aaron Roberts
Aaron Roberts

mr gustav, should we really destroy this great civilisation and genocide its inhabitants?
ja.
why are swedes such brutish subhumans?

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Jordan Anderson
Jordan Anderson

Read some more. 100 heavy Spanish cavalry literally BTFO'd the Aztec imperial army that had over 100,000 warriors....

Isaac Thompson
Isaac Thompson

I sympathize with the natives, the Spaniards did the same to my people

William Cook
William Cook

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Logan Howard
Logan Howard

true, but to be ''fair'' with them, they never saw horses before, were not used to european tactics and only had stone and wooden weapons

Eli Bennett
Eli Bennett

???

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Jason Moore
Jason Moore

Maybe you should have invested more into science and exploration instead of just building cathedrals.

Owen Allen
Owen Allen

Based black science man

Ryan Flores
Ryan Flores

shut the f*ck up negryson

Mason Reed
Mason Reed

They had the capability of creating iron and bronze weaponry but didn't because they saw those as more mystical elements used for religious and cultural purposes rather than warfare purposes.

The Amerindians are a strange people but let's not be coy here. They were weak. It was a matter of time that the Aztecs would have been destroyed with or without European involvement. The whole history of the Americas is constant building up of civilizations and then massive apocoylaptic destruction more severe then what Europe, the middle-east, china and India ever suffered in terms of being thrown back into a dark age.

Daniel Fisher
Daniel Fisher

They had nothing of what we would call combat tactic. In their military doctrine the individual skill and boldness of the single warrior counted, while european troops fought as close unit. Cavallry working together with harquebusiers and tight fighting formations of armoured men with halberds were a complete novelty to them. Also their stone weapons were sharp but very heavy, compared to the relatively light and fast swords of the Rodeleros.

Oliver Ward
Oliver Ward

Hum... Western India+Pakistan experienced a massive collapse in 1800 bc and that area never saw another civilization for the next 1300 years or more

Zachary Gutierrez
Zachary Gutierrez

That's because the American civilizations were more isolated from each other than in the Old World so it one fell they would take a long time to recover. Geography is really fucking rough in this continent, there are too many mountain ranges, deserts and tropical forests

Jaxon Hill
Jaxon Hill

The Americas had that 10 folds.

Oliver Jones
Oliver Jones

corsica is italian

Ian Jones
Ian Jones

This.

William Fisher
William Fisher

hello fellow terrone

Samuel Ward
Samuel Ward

yeah, plus they usually tried to ''avoid'' killing in battle as much as possible, they had a preference for capturing to acquire slaves and doing human sacrifices

Blake Davis
Blake Davis

When?

Levi Rivera
Levi Rivera

The good old "F11 - Use only blunt weapon" with 5 points in Prisoner Managment.

Samuel Perez
Samuel Perez

Norte Chico
Missisipian
the several dozen of civilizations that proceeded the incas
olmecs
Toltec
Aztecs
Mayans
Neo-Mayans

Chase Collins
Chase Collins

Also a pope

Jacob Martin
Jacob Martin

Missisipians, Incas, Aztecs and Nu-Maya were wiped out by the flood. Northe cico was still very primitive so obviously they couldn’t ricover well from climate change

Jordan Cruz
Jordan Cruz

Norte Chico
It still hurts
We would be in Mars now

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Thomas Rodriguez
Thomas Rodriguez

I meant wiped out by the flue

Aiden Barnes
Aiden Barnes

What moche and inca were much more advanced

Christian Wright
Christian Wright

Missipians were already wiped out before the spaniards arrived, same with the original Mayans. Both by warfare.

Juan Gonzalez
Juan Gonzalez

Yeah but Norte Chico was 3100 BC

Nathan Hughes
Nathan Hughes

Seriously fuck the aztecs they got what they deserved, I only feel slightly bad for the inca.

Asher Sanders
Asher Sanders

why do so many latin american anons larp as indians?

I mean, you're clearly not indians. your ancestors were the niggers who killed all indians.

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Camden Ward
Camden Ward

Fuck off
Peru is proudfully AMERINDIAN

Leo Richardson
Leo Richardson

I'm indigenous, you eurangutan snow beast

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Gavin Hughes
Gavin Hughes

t. blonde hair, blue eyed German immigrants

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Jonathan Turner
Jonathan Turner

Because fuck white colonizers

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

God gave Izzy the greatest year in world history after ending the moorish and jewish menance. Then he punished her for the Italian wars and how he treated her niece killing all his male heirs and making her daughter mad. She is still the greatest women in mankind's history

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Joseph Ward
Joseph Ward

Man this is so cool
I wish I knew more about history

Isaiah Jenkins
Isaiah Jenkins

Go back to your açúcar plantation

Brody Young
Brody Young

This is bs, the downfall of the Maya is for the most part attributed to ecological collapse and it didn't fully mean the end of their civilization, see Guatemala. Some of Mexico's civilizations fell to natural disasters (Cuicuilco) others to a slow process of social decline (Teotihuacán) and yet each built on the former. The Aztecs were part of a world full of civilized nations (apart from the surviving Maya themselves, the Tarascans, the Zapotecs, the Mixtecs, the Huastecs) in which they became the dominating force. For a bronze age civilization with some iron age advances they weren't as exceptional, the Romans performed religious human sacrifice themselves in their Republican era and later had gladiatorial combat arguably as bloody as Aztec sacrifice for mere entertainment and they were a full fledged Iron age people.

As for casus belli it was the Spaniards who massacred the people of Cholula unprovoked, after being welcomed peacefully, and it was them who first attacked the Aztecs slaughtering their nobles who had put down their arms for a religious festival, in spite of them abstaining from performing sacrifice at the request of the Spaniards themselves.

You're doing nothing here but perpetuating an uninformed meme black legend, Moctezuma indulged Cortés far beyond the point of reason and against his own people's deeply held beliefs.

And Cortés was in charge of the Tlaxcaltec and Totonac forces who besieged the Aztecs, he thanked the Tlaxcaltec prince for his support by cowardly executing him.

The Spaniards behaved in no honorable way, the last Aztec Tlatoani, cuauhtemoc, who surrendered in order to spare what remained of his people, mostly women and children, was betrayed by Cortés and tortured for no other purpose than to obtain his treasure.

the strong replaces the weak
Mexicans replaced Spaniards.

t self hater, as usual it's someone with your flag playing house nigger

Alexander Hughes
Alexander Hughes

Shut up cumskin.

Ethan Parker
Ethan Parker

Shut up favelado, don't mock my fellow evropean brother.

t. Sulista

Christian Gonzalez
Christian Gonzalez

I 100¨% support you cuckold connoisseurs migrating back to Europe where you can lick European feet for the rest of your identity deprived life.

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Jason Rodriguez
Jason Rodriguez

Because they are wh*te

Carter Evans
Carter Evans

Spain is not wh*Te. It's a pure moorish nation. ¿cachai?

Isaac Jones
Isaac Jones

There could have been an entire continent full of civilized non-mutt Indigenous, with their culture, values and architecture still in tact and modernizing.
Spaniards remarked at how safe and clean Maya and Aztec cities were
Spaniards and other Euro explorers noted that there was a strong community spirit and developed trade and debt system
Aztecs and several Maya kingdoms had compulsory public education
Maya actually had literacy rates at parity with Europe at the time, and widespread mathematic comprehension
Maya already understood complex math, gear ratios, crop modification and Aztecs understood architectural and agricultural elements more advanced than the normative bronze age cultures

It would have been interesting to see how Mesoamerican civilizations advanced had they not met outsiders at a point of weakness. I imagine they would have developed in a similar way that Meiji Japan or Thailand did, where they only let in Euro advancements that benefited them and re-worked them into their civilization. Who knows if they would have ended up any better but they definitely would have their own unique highly developed culture, writing system and art styles now. The Maya probably would have been pretty fucking sweet to see in their iron age.
This guy knows what's up.

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Jaxson Watson
Jaxson Watson

They had nothing of what we would call combat tactic.

Sandoval was appointed to the command of the third division, consisting of twenty-four horses, fourteen crossbow-men and musketeers, and one hundred and fifty foot armed with shields and swords. To this division were added 8000 Indians from the townships of Chalco, Huexotzinco, and other places in alliance with us.
(...)
They had driven one of our brigantines between the stakes, killed two of the men, and wounded all the rest. (...) the Mexicans had already fastened many ropes to her, and were trying to tow her off into the town behind their canoes. Sandoval's encouraging words were not lost upon us, and we fought with such determination that at length we rescued the vessel. (...) when all in a moment the large drum of Huitzilopochtli again resounded from the summit of the temple, accompanied by all the hellish music of shell trumpets, horns, and other instruments. The sound was truly dismal and terrifying, but still more agonizing was all this to us when we looked up and beheld how the Mexicans were mercilessly sacrificing to their idols our unfortunate companions (...) On that terrible day the loss of the three divisions amounted to sixty men and seven horses.

Bernal Díaz del Castillo. True history of the Conquest of New Spain, Chapters CL, CLII

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Levi Gutierrez
Levi Gutierrez

They did it for God and Don Carlos

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Isaiah Ward
Isaiah Ward

great book

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Lincoln Carter
Lincoln Carter

In their military doctrine the individual skill and boldness of the single warrior counted, while european troops fought as close unit. Cavallry working together with harquebusiers and tight fighting formations of armoured men with halberds were a complete novelty to them.
a novelty when they faced those advantages for the first time ever at otumba
the spanish couldn't pull off a victory like that against them even if back in the old world they managed one like gembloux against people with steel arms, who were used to cavalry warfare for thousands of years too

"If our cavalry attempted to pursue the enemy into the water, the latter had provided against this by palisades, behind which they retired, and stretched out against them their long lances, to which they had fastened the swords we unfortunately lost on our retreat from Mexico."
(...)
"We noted their tenacity in fighting, but I declare that I do not know how to describe it, for neither cannon nor muskets nor crossbows availed, nor hand-to-hand fighting, nor killing thirty or forty of them every time we charged, for they still fought on in as close ranks and with more energy than in the beginning."
(...)
"In the midst of this second conflict, Alvarado Tapia and Oli, with the main body of the cavalry, made their appearance, who had been attacking the enemy at other points. The blood was trickling down Oli's face, nor had any one of them escaped without a wound. They said they had been attacked by terrific bodies of the enemy, in the open fields, and had not been able to drive them back."
- True History of the Conquest of New Spain by Bernal Díaz del Castillo, Chapters CL, CXXVI, CXLV

indeed

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Bentley Miller
Bentley Miller

Wow. They had a great sense of urbanism.

Evan Wood
Evan Wood

hey, i'm 1/8 amerindian!

Brody Reed
Brody Reed

plus they usually tried to ''avoid'' killing in battle as much as possible
not in conquest campaigns, where they only started to capture once they enemy was routing
but they were risking their reputation with the revolts led by 2000 men unvuct in mesoamerica, so they went full flower war against the spanish to show off they could defeat them even if they were trying to capture them alive

Every spring the Aztecs used to organize "gladiatorial" combats between their highest military ranks and the enemy elite warriors and commanders who were captured in battle. As part of the festival, nobles from all Mesoamerica were invited to witness these combats.
Nevertheless, only the Aztec warrior fought with an edged weapon and his movement wasn't limited by being attached to the sacrificial stone. The combat was over when the Aztec warrior was unconcious or when he managed to make his foe bleed enough to keep him from moving. Usually the first combatant for the captured warrior would be his captor and if the captured warrior was victorious he would face several other contenders. According to Bernardino de Sahagún, the number of Aztec warriors increased with each victory and there was up to four at the same time.
A famous Tlaxcaltec warrior, Tlahuicole, prefered to die in gladiatorial combat than return to his country as a spared man. He finally met his end at the sacrificial stone after killing 8 warriors and defeating 20 more.

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Ryan Taylor
Ryan Taylor

Flower wars differed from typical wars in a number of important aspects. While engaging in a flower war, competing armies would meet on a "preset date at a preselected place.”[5] These places became sacred sites and were called cuauhtlalli or yaotlalli.[2] Combatants signaled the start of war by burning a large "pyre of paper and incense" between the armies.[2] Actual battle tactics also differed from typical warfare.[6] In typical warfare, the Aztecs used atlatl darts, stones, and other ranged weapons to weaken enemy forces from afar.[6] However, in flower wars, the Aztecs neglected to use ranged weapons and instead used weapons such as the macuahuitl[7] that required skill and close proximity to the enemy.[6] The use of these kinds of weapons allowed the Aztecs to display their individual combat ability, which was an important part of the flower war.[6]

Flower wars involved fewer soldiers than typical Aztec wars did.[2] A larger proportion of the soldiers would be drawn from nobility than during a typical war.[8] These characteristics allowed the Aztecs to engage in flower wars during any time of the year.[8] In contrast, the Aztecs could fight larger wars of conquest only from late autumn to early spring, because Aztec citizens were needed for farming purposes during the rest of the year.[8] Additionally, flower wars differed from typical wars in that there were equal numbers of soldiers on each side of the battle; this was also related to the Aztecs wanting to show off their military prowess.[9]

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Robert Bennett
Robert Bennett

thing is they didn't consider epidemics would get involved

Reproduction and population growth declined since people of child bearing age either had to fight off the Spanish invasion or died due to famine, malnutrition or other diseases.[23] Diseases like smallpox could travel great distances and spread throughout large populations, which was the case with the Aztecs having lost approximately 50% of its population from smallpox and other diseases.[24] The disease killed an estimated forty percent of the native population in the area within a year. The Aztecs codices give ample depictions of the disease's progression. It was known to them as the huey ahuizotl (great rash).

Cuitlahuac contracted the disease and died after ruling for eighty days. Though the disease drastically decreased the numbers of warriors on both sides, it had more dire consequences for the leadership on the side of the Aztecs, as they were much harder hit by the smallpox than the Spanish leaders, who were largely resistant to the disease.

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Landon Powell
Landon Powell

and inb4 the weak should fear the strong

diseases from the new world introduced to the old world:
- a bed bug infection
- syphilis (disputed)

diseases from the old world introduced to the new world:
- bubonic plague
- chicken pox
- cholera
- diphtheria
- influenza
- leprosy
- malaria
- measles
- scarlet fever
- smallpox
- typhoid
- typhus
- whooping cough
- yaws
- yellow fever

The Bubonic Plague alone killed 25% to 60% of the European population during the 14th century, Natives survived the introduction of all the diseases above within a century.

Brayden Reed
Brayden Reed

2000 men unvuct in mesoamerica
*invict

Zachary Garcia
Zachary Garcia

t. proud pure white nordic Argentinian

Jonathan Smith
Jonathan Smith

Literally because of dirty Sp*niard diseases. They never had to do any work just like their modern counterparts

Connor Russell
Connor Russell

They had the capability of creating iron and bronze weaponry but didn't because they saw those as more mystical elements used for religious and cultural purposes rather than warfare purposes.
they were isolated from the old world, so no mesopotamians to give them steel, central asian nomads to give them horses nor chinese to get gunpowder

As soon as the inhabitants of Guacasualco (Present-day Gulf of Mexico) and the neighbouring districts had learnt that we offered our goods for barter, they brought us all their golden ornaments, and took in exchange green glass beads, on which they set a high value. Besides ornaments of gold, every Indian had with him a bronze axe, which was very highly polished, with the handle curiously carved, as if to serve equally for an ornament as for the field of battle.
- Bernal Diaz del Castillo, The True History of the Conquest of New Spain, Chapter XVI

Cortes issued orders to all the townships which lay in the vicinity of Texcoco, and were in alliance with us, for each of them to furnish him with 8000 bronze points for our arrows, to be made after the model of our Spanish ones, of which some were sent them for that purpose.
He allowed them eight days for the making and delivery of these; and indeed both the arrows and the bronze points arrived at Tezcuco in the time specified. Our stock of these now consisted of 50,000 pieces, and the arrow points made by these people were even better than those we brought from Spain.
- Bernal Diaz del Castillo, The True History of the Conquest of New Spain, Chapter CXLVII

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Anthony Barnes
Anthony Barnes

The Amerindians are a strange people but let's not be coy here. They were weak. It was a matter of time that the Aztecs would have been destroyed with or without European involvement
every empire eventually ends

The whole history of the Americas is constant building up of civilizations and then massive apocoylaptic destruction more severe then what Europe, the middle-east, china and India ever suffered in terms of being thrown back into a dark age.
yet they acomplished universal compulsory education before them

The Aztec Triple Alliance, which ruled from 1428 to 1521 in central Mexico, is considered to be the first state to implement a system of universal compulsory education.[4][5]

The children of workers received vocational training in the more relaxed telpochcalli, the “houses of youth” established in every district. The teachers were professionals, but priests played a part. From these institutions, children could go home frequently. Yet they, like those in the calmécac, received ample instruction in morality and natural history through homilies which they often learned by heart, and of which some survive. “Almost all,” wrote a good observer in the 1560s, “know the names of all the birds, animals, trees and herbs, knowing too as many as a thousand varieties of the latter, and what they are good for.”39 A strong work ethic was inculcated: and children were told that they had to be honest, diligent and resourceful. All the same, preparation for combat was the dominating consideration where boys were concerned: above all, single combat with a matched enemy.

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Lucas Lewis
Lucas Lewis

Because it's the only thing we have, and it's really sad, the incas literally erradicated starvation and yet today middle class here can't even feed themselves properly, so many people try to climb on them because they were indeed great though as you say the were probably exterminated and only the natives that allied with spaniards are our ancestors.

Brandon Howard
Brandon Howard

Cortez had about 2,500 Spaniards during his expedition in total (508 was just the initial amount of soldiers who disembarked, he was reinforced later). Plus about a hundred thousand Native allies. Helps that disease killed off literally 50% of the population in a year before he laid siege, which would pretty much cause any society to collapse over night.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Tenochtitlan#Smallpox_reduces_the_local_population

Benjamin Turner
Benjamin Turner

Those numbers are almost certainly bullshit. 100,000+ men is more men than the Mongols had invading Kwharezmia.

Cameron Harris
Cameron Harris

only the natives that allied with spaniards are our ancestors.
That may be true in South America but not in Mexico, look at any map you'll see Tlaxcala is a small mountain state and that the Veracruz coast the Totonac came from is sparsely populated, meanwhile the Aztec Anahuac valley aka Greater Mexico City is one fifth of the country's population, this is where the Spaniards settled and set up their capital and this is the people they mingled with as they expanded through the country. The rights of Aztec nobility were respected, Moctezuma's lineage survives today as European nobles and the first Japanese ambassador met with them. If you compare a map of the Aztec Empire with a population density map of Mexico you'll see this is the by far most populated area and from where most settlers in other regions of Mexico arised. Nahuas (the Aztec ethnicity) were used extensively to populate regions like the north and the B ajío and thus you'll find Nahua place names eg Mazatlán in regions beyond Aztec control. The one area where Naguas did not settle in large numbers or they and their related peoples (the Uto-Aztecs) had no strong pre-columbine pressence is the Maya lands, they're the country's number 2 major Native American ethnicity.

It sin't LARPing to say Mexicans for the most part descend from Aztecs and Mayas, the third largest group, Oaxacan indians as a collective, are insular peoples who were under Aztec control in pre-Colombian times.

Nahuas and Mayas remain today, by far, the overwhelming majority of Mexican Amerindians.

Gavin Gomez
Gavin Gomez

This. There are something like 10 million indigenous speaking Maya in Guatemala and Mexico nowadays.

Anthony Thomas
Anthony Thomas

The mayans is understandable since they left their cities way before the spaniards came but weren't all aztecs death after the conquest due to small pox and wars?

Jeremiah Anderson
Jeremiah Anderson

Of course not, the Aztec Empire had 15 million people by the lower estimates, it was heavily populated because of advanced agricultural techniques such as Milpa and Chinampa agriculture. Even if war and epidemics had wiped 90% of the population (they didn't) that would have still meant 1.5 million would remain, a far larger concentration than anywhere else in the Americas, and with access to an extensive infrastructure of roads and irrigation, this is the reason Mexico was the most productive colony for the Spanish Empire and that it provided much of the manpower for further conquests, as in Guatemala and the Philipines.

Pictured was built by Aztecs after the fall of Tenochtitlán, using their own materials, techniques and even some of their aesthetics. All the Aztec city states apart from Tenochtitlán, eg Tlatelolco or Xochimilco, survive today as neighbourhoods and borroughs of Mexico City and the surrounding Mexico state. The core of the Aztec Empire is near a full one third of the country aka central Mexico.

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Brody Lewis
Brody Lewis

Kll yourself

Charles Hernandez
Charles Hernandez

Don't talk to me

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William Sanchez
William Sanchez

A Cortes y sus hombres los Aztecas les dieron una madriza la primera vez que se enfrentaron, le tomo varios años de conspiracion y aliansas con enemigos para poder derrrotarlos.

Alexander Perry
Alexander Perry

500 drunk manlets with a bunch of guns
*500 drunk 16th century spanish manlets with a bunch of guns

pic related is what the manlets were doing in europe
the aztecs fought them with no steel arms
no horses
no cannons
no disease immunity
no decisive numerical advantage once they got native allies
and not trying to kill them, but capture them alive to sacrifice them in a ceremony later

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Colton Nguyen
Colton Nguyen

this

Jack Perry
Jack Perry

aztecs chimp out and sacrifice their neighbors
get buttblasted when everybody else allies with the wh*Tes to remove their stink and blood cult
naw we dindu nuffin mane whitey just came and replaced our space age civilization dog

Colton Garcia
Colton Garcia

What was the crime of Argentine natives according to you?

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Anthony Lopez
Anthony Lopez

everybody else
No it was two specific peoples, The Totonacs and the Tlaxcaltecs, they were both Nahuas who spoke the exact same language as the Aztecs and belonged in the same ethnicity, they were a part of Aztec civilization in much the same way as Athenians and Spartans were both Greeks.

remove their stink and blood cult
Except they followed in the same religion and worshiped the same gods, they also performed human sacrifices in the same way. The Tlaxcaltecs participated in the Aztec flower wars and sacrificed Aztec captives. They were the exact same ffs

Gabriel Davis
Gabriel Davis

Why would you destroy this?

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Ryan Reed
Ryan Reed

implying
The Aztecs defeated and routed the spanish from tenochtitlan although with heavy loses.
The spanish lost a big chunk (about 50% of their forces on the night of tears.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Noche_Triste

When the spanish came back with an even bigger force, tenochtitlan had been ravaged by dissease that the spanish had brought.
The spanish would have been annihalated had they tried to siege technotitlan with a healthy population.

Also, let's ignore the hundreds of thousands of neighboring natives that fought alongside the spanish, and let's say that 400 men conquered the aztec empire.

EUROPEAN EDUCATION.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_conquest_of_the_Aztec_Empire

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Gavin Powell
Gavin Powell

The first attack on tenochtitlan was even a cowardly act by the spanish.

While the aztecs were celebrating their festival or something, they came to the party and massacred a lot of the aztec elite, generals, politicians, etc. Women and children.

Truly cowardly, barbaric.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_in_the_Great_Temple_of_Tenochtitlan

Nathaniel Hernandez
Nathaniel Hernandez

They raided settlements, kidnapped women and children while executing the men and forced them into slavery, robbed cattle.
At least the more bellicose tribes did and they got BTFO, the peaceful ones were just integrated, that's why we still have a lot of Amerindians around.

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Christopher Turner
Christopher Turner

mexicans were savage uncivilized fucks

Henry Young
Henry Young

tfw not the only Maya-boo on Sup Forums

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Luke Harris
Luke Harris

I'm not sure why wikipedia counts Tarascans as combatants on the Aztec side, but Spanish technology and tactics were able to multiply the effectivity of their forces and allowed them to choke off Tenochtitlán, keep in mind many of the Aztecs in the city were non combatants such as women and children and that it wasn't only smallpox that took its toll, the Spaniards destroyed both of the aqueducts going into the city and purposefully broke the dikes separating brackish from sweet water to force the population into drinking contaminated water, that alongside famine made for a very tough siege, one that lasted 75 days. Cortés built brigantines to fight the Aztec acalli boats and bombarded the city destroying much of it in the process. Also the Aztecs crucially lost much of their leadership, including Moctezuma's succesor Cuitlahuac, to disease. Cuauhtémoc's last stand however was in Tlatelolco, not in Tenochtitlán.

Numbers and technology aside, the big oft uncredited decider was European warfare strategy, the Spaniards were very competent in this area.

Oh yeah, they made a stand against invaders, how evil of them.

Not at all

Nah, Maya are very important to us and the second largest group after Nahuas (Aztecs) in Mexico, these threads don't usually revolve around them tho.

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