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>Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said on Friday that European Union should start setting up a joint European army
>"We must give priority to security and so let's start setting up a joint European army," Orban said
>He was seconded by Czech Prime Minister Bohuslav Sobotka, who said building a joint army will not be an "easy project" but added that the 28-nation EU needed better cooperation on defense issues and border protections
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Ignorant flip questions. What's so different with this from your NATO? Does the EU have its own army too?
Why bother? It's not like they'll ever use it.
and he wants exclusive V4 army too
btw im not big fan of the EU army because there is good chance the brussels fags will use wrong way
>What's so different with this from your NATO?
NATO is part of american imperialism since they give the most money and keep the EU down from becoming anything other than an economic superpower. If Donald wins, NATO would stop bullying europe so much and allow us to have our own agenda.
In the last week there have been talks about militarizing Germany(yes Germany) by the mainstream parties who are usually anti-war. This is NATO doing to spur up a fight with Russia, because they are not sure Hillary will be President.
What is the structure of command?
Who is the commander in chief? How are army resources allocated and who controls forces?
Sooner or later there will be a common European army
The sooner the better
" Hollande embarks on tour to push for European ‘army’ "
" President Hollande’s two visits will focus on European solidarity in defence, a subject long blocked by Britain."
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>and he wants exclusive V4 army too
Sauce?
It will end with us getting anschlussed and crying to Murrica for help from Germans
Why are people pushing this meme? Of course nobody will want to hear orders in german or french
Is it still globalization if we see the rise of 4-5 massive super states that all hate each other?
Napoleon pls, stop
OK it seems NATO has different agendas from what Tricky Vik wants. What does Orban mean by this? Is this to curb 'slime invaders?
why the fuck would Orban want to increase EU centralisation like this?
wtf I hate Orban now
ye make them english so we can understand where to sacrifice our youth next
It's pretty weird, yeah. I tend to agree with the guy, but he is completely and utterly wrong on this one.
If he wants an army to declare a proper crusade with and kick Islam off the continent, this isn't the way of going about it.
World wars: Final round
Winner takes all of what's left of Earth and becomes the elite in a one nation planet
you've given our country enough fucking children as it is
Orban wants to control the EU in a rational non shit lib fashion. He's like a much less impulsive Hitler. You should let him.
He is right, Brits were stopping us, not they will fuck off and we can make a common army
now*
>Orban wants to control the EU
And what ever makes you think Merkel would allow this?
Lol Europeans are so stupid, enjoy new Soviet Union and its new Brezhnev doctrine Army. Will be funny when Brussels sends its the tanks to Warsaw and Budapest to remove the governments.
Germoney controls the EU you fucking retard.
Fuck this kike shill
>joint european army
One step closer to a borderless europe
NATO is an offensive and defensive alliance of multiple national militaries, EU nations already also have to defend each other in case one of them is attacked.
Also not all EU Members are in NATO and not all NATO members are in EU
For example Austria is in EU but not in NATO
or Norway is in NATO but not in EU
The new EU army would be a standing own military directly under the command of the EU (and as such under the command of the EU comission, what is extremly dangerous)
>tfw you'll see all Europe united under one Hungarian birodalom
Soon
Dont worry, EU will set you free first
>tfw i will subvert america to orban's wishes from within
IF were it to happen. Should we assume this new EU army will be independent from American influence/intervention?
The strangest thing about this to me is that Orban is very anti-migration and very right wing, at least on these issues. He always sounded to me like the voice AGAINST most EU policy, again, as far as these issues go. Why, then, is he advocating for an EU army now?
This is your future under EU army. Enjoy it stupid Pole. We are safe from invasions unlike you.
Wow, I thought this guy was not a cuck? I guess Hungary is going full cuck now.
So it turns out Germany did it in a peaceful way didn't it?
That was their plan all along, they have trained their islamists to keep order and they'll probably be the army and the official religion of this new Empire will be Islam. That's boring.
Orban probably wants a unified military that can intervene in a europe wide civil war. Dead srs, I cant see any other scenario.
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Military coup. This will end in a military coup.
Maybe, maybe not.
I would rather have a buch of US controlled european armies then an EU Commission controlled european army tho
Everyone is calling for EU army lately.
This is the future I welcome, sadly with China growing EU needs to be able to act also via military
>Brussels sends its the tanks to Warsaw and Budapest to remove the governments
Exactly - this declaration makes no sense from the point of view of Orban's extremely eurosceptic politics.
What is he and Czech guy planning? What is their endgame? And why do they bring up the subject in the middle of conference in Poland, when they know full well that our current government would never support such idea?
>germany
>without germans
I am for a strong EU without anglos and their shitty influence
>28-nation EU
He came out against Brexkt. Orban wants a STRONG Europe and not the faggy, love and rainbows vision of strength but an Eastern influenced vision of strength.
>eu builds army
>Nothing but rapefugees volunteer.
Destroy it before it turns into something more sinister eurobros.
We gonna replace you with quallity nations such as Serbia
You are just stupid. Orban makes perfect sense, he puts Hungarian security first.
You welcome being a slave to liberal empire?
No idea, maybe he is delusional about what it would eventually be used for?
oi tell this slut to get down and polish my sabre
>he thinks he is a free man in Bielarus
Is Russia the big boogeyman for this? Or is it ISIS?
I mean, we can't even get NATO members to spend a decent amount on their military. Why would they do it for the EU if no significant motivation exists for most of them?
Someone post the video where Juncker greets Orban with a Hitler salute. Top banter
When the right-wing(the actual new one, not the EPP) takes over the EU parliament and apoints right-winger on the Euro Commission, centralization would actually be benefical for the greater european(white) cause.
The Hungarian economy will collapse after 2020. You can screen cap this.
>We are safe from invasions unlike you
You're right, 72% of your population already speaks Russian.
Orban is a jew now? Goddammit
> Quality Nation
> Serbia
UK is 5th Largest economy in the world and you replace them with Serbia? TOP KEK
The elected EU parliament has little to no power, its all the overpowerd EU commission that makes all the decisions
That's the best case scenario btw.
What is the point? Most of the EU countries are part of NATO including Hungary
>Orban makes perfect sense, he puts Hungarian security first
How the fuck would "United European Army" led by Germans increase Hungarian security, especially given that he's already endebted to Russia and sucking Putin's cock secretly
I just don't know what this guy stands for anymore
in the local news, TV and radio
translate this :
"és azon is dolgoznak, hogy legyen a V4-eknek közös hadserege, ami nem azonos az európai közös hadsereggel."
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So your argument is that Belarus is an authoritarian nation so you want to be a slave nation? But what I meant was that Belarus is independent and even Putin could not remove Lukashenka if he wanted to.
Almost everyone speaks Russian, what you mean is what people speak at home o in localities, in which case the mixed Russian-Belarusian is also common and Belarusian is also there but is less so.
Orban is right. EU needs to be able to project military power. This is how Murricans got rich after wwii and this is how they maitain their status, by fucking up middle eastern oil countries.
If USA is able to limit German ambitions with nato bases on German soil, we should create a common army for the sake of everyone.
Especially now with Chinks growing.
>I mean, we can't even get NATO members to spend a decent amount on their military.
That's because the populace sees NATO as an american invention that tries to stir up shit with Russia and use Europe as the battleground. There is also the fact that Turkey is in NATO and has a say in many things. An european army could at least have it's own policy and agenda. We only have to keep cucks out of it. Mostly eastern-europeans should be in it.
It has already begun
your an idiot if you support an EU army
EU commission is appointed by the parliament.
It will only be used on Native Europeans if at all.
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Found it
>the current leader of the 4th Reich calling anyone else a nazi
wtf
>Almost everyone speaks Russian
>mixed Russian-Belarusian
Exactly what I'm talking about. You're already culturally enslaved by Ivan, no need for them to invade you.
when are they going to replace that drunk fuck?
lol fuck this kike shoah artist jagoff...
feeling the inevitable collapse of your little soviet union? huh kikes?
hehehe
just wait
this is the begining
wut
I thought this guy hated the EU?
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Whatever, my point is that this will be bad for you all and it will remove the capacity for resistance against the elite who rule the EU.
>Can't turban the Orban
>joint European army
wat why?
I'd be all for a joint v4 force or at least coordinating modernization efforts so our armies compliment each other, but putting our security in the hands of Cuckmany sounds like a terrible fucking idea.
An EU Army is a globalist tool, and will be used to go to war with Russia. Him saying this is absolutely incongruent with how he has behaved so far.
Maybe he thinks it will help him build a military on the EU's dime, and he'll tell them to get fucked?
UK, America, Canada, Greenland, Iceland, Germany, France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Austria, Hungaria, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand
can everyone agree this is the ideal alliance?
That is weird as fuck right wing is nationalism , a eu army is globalism , something stinks here
What is the right way?
EU army will never be welcome in Britain
Eastern Europeans are stuck in the 20th century
they still think Russia is the "great evil" and not globalists/neoliberals
Seems we are about to get #VISEGRADED
just another shit skinned fucking scumbag turning tricks is all I see.
This one happens to be hungarian though
"Socialism kills"
This guy is great.
here comes the eu army!
Orbán is all about opposing globalism and neo-liberal policies.
Also, for better or worse, he seeks to improve relations with Russia.
Depends on how you look at it.
When it come down to us being independent, Russia is a much bigger threat than globalism.
What a bullshit
You are already not independent. Just another province of the German empire.
Tbh a joint troop to control eastern borders and waters in general without having to obey the nato jew, is not a bad idea.
But unifying all sovereign troops to form a army that is exclusively controlled by the EU or even worse the americans is fucking retarded.
Mmmmh... why would a crypto fascist want to have a more strong and centralized state?
he's just a bullshitter, saying what the goyim want to hear, doing the exact opposite.
I know whats going in in this piece of shit's head
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